You guys are so cozy. I'm not even into retro and most of my life is on modern Mac. I'm still here.
@Ashfaxe
6 ай бұрын
I grew up with CRPGs being mentioned in US console gaming magazines as "character" role playing games. These tended to be what I think transitioned into being referred to as JRPGs or JPRG-style games (Chrono Trigger, Dragon's Quest, etc.).
@MQsto
6 ай бұрын
"Doom on a toothbrush!" is the new "Christ on a bike!"
@Joliie
6 ай бұрын
Mass Effect series has good balance with action and rpg imho :)
@bazodee2
6 ай бұрын
Stroker should have been on that list. Stroker deserves its own arcade cabinet.
@massdrivermusic
6 ай бұрын
You're famous Dave! 🙂
@ScandalUK
6 ай бұрын
The rpg documentary was good, but missed early windows titles like outcast, system shock and deus ex, where the genre started to change
@Joliie
6 ай бұрын
First time I heard CRPG :) guess I am too old... ohh wait..
@Lordborak316
6 ай бұрын
Same, I always just used term RPG for tabletop and computer games.
@Kordanor
6 ай бұрын
@@Lordborak316 Then I guess you also haven't heard of WRPG, Western RPG. Basically there to give a name to games which are not JRPGs ^^ These days were Console and Home computer RPGs are more together on the same market than 30 years ago, it also became more and more necessary (or useful) to distinguish. While lots of people look specifically for JPRGs, there are also plenty (like me) who don't like JRPGs at all.
@Lordborak316
6 ай бұрын
@@Kordanor grew up playing D&D second edition, all just RPGs to us old folk.
@Kordanor
6 ай бұрын
@@Lordborak316 The funny thing is, that I came to Pen and Paper the other way around. Maybe you know Realms of Arkania / The Dark Eye. In German it's "Das Schwarze Auge", and in Germany it's basically as big as D&D. But I first came with the Computer games from the 90s (internationally known as realms of Arkania) and only because of some advert in the manual I found out about what Pen and Paper is :D
@DJChrisFury
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comments on my surname being a new Patron but I have to inform you that isn't my real name as it my DJ name. You may remember me from Community questions of the week where I guessed 2 out of 3 presents correctly the Christmas before last where I said GameCube controller when I ment N64 controller, also the CQOTW about gifts where I got my sister to swap the speccy version for the C64 version of Out Run, and I also gave an answer for the question for "what was your first printer?" where I originated the catchphrase 'I will shut up now". I also recently submitted a jingle for Dave's Housekeeping that is yet to be aired so can anyone find out my true surname? youtube.com/@DJChrisFury I wil shut up now 🤫
@proteque
6 ай бұрын
Atari Format came in a brown bag I think. the name of the parts on the pcbs are buildings I think! Or so a girl from Island said.She read it in a danish book I think? or maybe not?
@KrisGraney
6 ай бұрын
Oh goodness, that intro stinks! Even Duncan couldn't save it....
@Ian45968
6 ай бұрын
How long can "Atari" keep milking their limited pre 1984 arcade games? Most of the best Atari arcade games came after 1984.
@a500
6 ай бұрын
I was an ST/Amiga Format reader before the Amiga Format switch. And also worked in a newsagents. At least in the south west, they didn't come sealed. I'd therefore think that maybe it was a subscriber edition as that would have been. Or, and this is where my suspicions lie someone has sealed it themselves.
@Dazreil
6 ай бұрын
didn't come sealed in north east London either, also had the cover disk on therm in my local corner shop and WHSmiths.
@ScandalUK
6 ай бұрын
They didn’t come sealed (except the odd Xmas issue with a mini mag). I grew up in Bath & visited the AF office a few times cuz I knew ppl who worked there. Amazing staff
@Dazreil
6 ай бұрын
@@ScandalUK most of the mags I bought in my youth where published by Future Publishing, ST Format, PC format, Superplay, EDGE, Total Film and SFX and of course Retrogamer
@retroheadstuff8554
6 ай бұрын
Dave, can you show your Amiga in a episode?
@Lordborak316
6 ай бұрын
He won't because then he'll have to whip himself with an Atari ST power lead.
@retroheadstuff8554
6 ай бұрын
😂@@Lordborak316
@peterpereira3653
6 ай бұрын
I personally found this the best video since channel became a duo again. The segment on CRPG and role playing in general was great. I was into various RPG be it through books, boardgames and card games. I still have a lot of it today in the attic.
@retroheadstuff8554
6 ай бұрын
First 😜
@Ashfaxe
6 ай бұрын
Talking about "can you call it a RPG," growing I tended to enjoy games with character progression like Privateer. I didn't really think of these as RPGs, though. I was familiar with the SSI games and tended to think of those mostly when I thought of RPGs. It probably didn't help with the anti-DND "panic" at the time, though.
@MagnusVojbacke
6 ай бұрын
Would that be the ghost of Chris past, the ghost of Chris present or the ghost of Chris yet to come?
@stevep7213
6 ай бұрын
Ultima mentions through the roof! Understandable in an episode about CRPGs. Great show as always, guys.
@karlwalker1771
6 ай бұрын
Will Nintendo Hacks Be The NEXT Take Down!
@mrfoameruk
6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the surname not mentioned is MacGyver.
@namcos
6 ай бұрын
A Japanese Amiga? Perhaps this is referring to the Sharp 68000?
@LinuxCity79
6 ай бұрын
50:50 HAHA!!
@MrDflego
6 ай бұрын
Borderlands is a good rpg series.
@gorgar6657
6 ай бұрын
Scottish expat listening every Monday on my ride into Buffalo as the kids say I love the vibe !
@ThisWeekinRetro
6 ай бұрын
Why am I imagining that you ride into Buffalo on a horse? Sounds like the sort of place you should ride into on a horse, I think. - Dunc
@velimir_ikalovic
6 ай бұрын
thank you for bringing us back to childhood.
@comradeinternet467
6 ай бұрын
This news about the NES expansion port getting put to use is exciting. Can't wait to see what homebrew developers do with that.
@evertonshorts9376
6 ай бұрын
Jeri Ellsworth was working on an augmented reality RPG thing, at one point.
@brooknet
6 ай бұрын
MUDs: Please don't forget the original MUSE MUD, as implemented using a variety of computing and networking platforms. Developed by Richard Bartle, Simon Dally and Roy Trubshaw in the 1970s/early 80s, this game started on Essex University's computers and soon became so popular that it needed to move to a bigger system. I was totally addicted to this game and my phone bills were horrendous.
@alexanderroyle
6 ай бұрын
Matt Barton, the author of the book mentioned "Dungeons and Desktops", has a great KZitem channel with many interviews with developers etc - www.youtube.com/@MattBarton
@GarryGri
6 ай бұрын
I read the 'Dungeons and Desktops' book years ago. I forgot about that one. It's a good and detailed book if yo are 'properly' interested in RPG games. I still have it, so may read through that again... I quite liked 'Dark Souls|' 'Daemon Souls' games but it never occurred to me to even remotely think of them as RPGs! That list is obviously null and void... It didn't mention Elite (or Ultima) 😉
@bombjack2413
6 ай бұрын
I've not heard/seen the CPRG term since I last read Dragon back in the early 90s. The one that got me hooked was the same as Dave's. Dungeon Master's magic system was fantastic, making the player feel like they were casting a spell rather than just pressing a button. Wish I still had my original Amiga version but someone borrowed that 30 years ago and never returned it.
@lilliputmoss
6 ай бұрын
Nice talk on RPG's, I just can't deal with the grind of so many of them anymore and tbh Disco Elysium has eclipsed the genre for me today, I need more of that.
@mohammedganai9636
6 ай бұрын
Marble Madness 2 when, Atari? Just do like Nintendo did with Star Fox 2 and include it somewhere as a bonus!
@catriona_drummond
6 ай бұрын
NeverKnowsBest is an awesome creator, but take some of what he says with a grain of salt. He likes his narratives smooth and free of contradicting information.
@thehootsforce4201
6 ай бұрын
I remember Atari F1 in the arcade, which had the video displayed on the screen via rear projection using lights. The main memory was a 4 year old me getting scared when the car crashed.
@mart1nandersson
6 ай бұрын
No need to ask Dave about his stance on piracy moving forward considering that t-shirt 😆
@lasskinn474
6 ай бұрын
haha what do you think was the point of adding a paywall? making money. whats the point of all the emulators based on other peoples works on the application stores? same thing really. the making money point is what makes them vulnerable to be sued too.
@Applecompuser
3 ай бұрын
Diablo II did a good job about preventing grind.
@Savagetechie
6 ай бұрын
Mac format was wrapped, pc gamer had a foil bag for special editions.
@hisham_hm
6 ай бұрын
my three from that list would be SimCity, Metroid and Guitar Hero. Each one of those literally spawned a genre. Ultima may be great but it wasn't the frist RPG, and Elite was super important but it didn't really spawn a genre of its own (perhaps a testament to its uniqueness). Of course they should be in a Hall of Fame, but the three I picked should go in first, if we're sorting by impact and not chronologically.
@hisham_hm
6 ай бұрын
they should have made the inductions chronological, like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: basically induct games that turn 30 years old, so that each year we get to discuss the games of a specific year (and complain about the omissions).
@hisham_hm
6 ай бұрын
Dr. Local is pretty much TWIR editor staff at this point!
@Lordborak316
6 ай бұрын
Seems to find lots of stories.
@Lordborak316
6 ай бұрын
The monster holographic cards in cerial were "Supernaturals"
@ThisWeekinRetro
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Neil
@kpfaulkner
6 ай бұрын
Is that an Ultima mentions record?
@ThisWeekinRetro
6 ай бұрын
Might be. If not it is close, I'm not actually keeping record. I swear they are now adding mentions on purpose. - Dunc
@backgammonbacon
6 ай бұрын
Bethesda didn't fail with Starfield they have made hundreds of millions of dollars and it got great reviews. Games are made by people and people move on to other things so of course these companies will all fail eventually.
@Lordborak316
6 ай бұрын
Great reviews? It got panned by most of the players on steam and is running at mostly negative recent reviews.
@BBfanfun
6 ай бұрын
Pool of Radiance. the original GoldBox. SSI had done good rpg's before , TSR was looking to license D&D (since it first started) it all just fit with "Forgotten Realms" becoming the D&D campaign world. the first "Computer" version of the RPG ! on PC DOS & B&W MAC
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