One important thing to remember is that the 4KP is (as far as I know) the only licensed 4K virtual pinball machine in the world. It's also a gen1 product that's been out for less then 6 months. Considering that, it's amazing just how this machine plays out of the box and the relatively affordable price (when compared to other high-end unlicensed vpins). But I do understand people wanting to wait until all the skins are released and/or the lag issues are completely gone from the Zen tables.
@MikeS-el6vd
Ай бұрын
Great review JDV! I couldn’t agree with you more regarding buying a full size digital pinball table if you don’t want to mess around with software. I spent 5K on one thinking how great it was going to be. I spoke to someone where I purchased it from beforehand, and they assured me, I’d get tech-support. As an old guy who doesn’t want to mess around learning all the pinball software, I thought it would be great. Don’t always believe everything you hear. Tech support was little to none. I ended up selling it at a loss. I already own the HD version of ATGames and will probably eventually buy their 4K version. It’s just so much easier to buy the tables and have them.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Hey Mike, always good to hear from you! Keeping a homebrew/3rd party table running isn't easy - takes a lot of time an effort.
@ronyoung3167
Ай бұрын
Love this channel. Just got my AFM 4K CE this week. I love it!! Your channel helped me take the plunge. Glad I did.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks Ron, glad you dig the content. No product is perfect - particularly the first gen of a new product - but the 4KP is quite a machine. Primarily, it's super fun to play - and isn't that what everyone wants in a home arcade? The fact that it looks fantastic is nice plus !
@PapaBradsGaming
Ай бұрын
I have the 4KP and I love it. It was worth the money and I have no regrets purchasing it. Great video Evil Genius!
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Thank you Papa! Great show last night BTW....
@RetiredRetro1
Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video and your take on the value of the 4KP. I preordered the original Addams. Family machine and sold the HD with great expectations. I was disappointed in the lag of AF and as a result haven’t purchased any more Zen tables. Yours and other table reviews mention how much better some of the newer releases play and I may have to reconsider and try some. In the meantime I’m enjoying the stock tables and 5 of the older packs purchased in conjunction with the awesome addition of SSF sound enhancements!
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Glad you liked the video! Hopefully we'll see the lag eliminated at the end of the month in the new firmware update.
@Comrade2k7
Ай бұрын
Absolutely love mine. It has it's cons that can be potentially resolved but I'm very happy about the purchase.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
It's not perfect, but it really is a fantastic way to jump into vpin.
@jonarsenal
Ай бұрын
In my opinion, Until At games realises a new updated hardware 4k machine that will guarantee no lag its pointless just stay with the HD or buy a proper VP table for.the 1or2k more investment. The problem now is they want 15usd for most packs so in the end its gonna cost 1k eventually just to get 300 plus tables for a product Atgames might say we have the next gen and buy it again or buy some upgrade hardware. Honestly i dont want to knock them but i invested a lot into the HD table and modded it etc. Its great if you just want to leave it as stock but when you want to turn it into a proper table the toy bleeds money
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
For people who've dolled up they ALPs, I can totally understand standing pat. The 2 biggest selling points of the 4KPs (besides looks) are the SSF kit & ability to play Zen games. If the idea of lag is a deal killer for the Zen titles, that essentially leaves the SSF option... but man, it really is a big reason. Sound is such a huge part of pinball and that SSF kit truly does deliver the goods. But nothing wrong at all for either waiting for the problems to be ironed out, or for the next gen of machines.
@theoldar
Ай бұрын
I've had mine about as long as you have. My only issue has been a rattle in the right front haptic unit when the haptics setting is turned up very high. On the whole I am very happy with it.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
I keep everything in the middle (except for ST:TNG, which for some reason is quieter then the rest of the tables); but tweaking the sound is one of the things I hope AG gives us down the line.
@raydelatorre9532
Ай бұрын
Another great video!. I always look forward to your videos
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Thank you Ray, I really appreciate the kind words!
@raydelatorre9532
Ай бұрын
Hey, I installed a lunch button underneath the plunger. It works great with tables that use the button.
@johnnyv2318
Ай бұрын
I'm always looking forward to your videos. How about your top 10 or 5 pinball games. Would be a nice video from you.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Johnny - thanks man! I've been kicking an idea for a "what pinball games to play this week" show, so keep an eye out for that....
@dalecummins689
Ай бұрын
Great review! I agree that at the price point, especially since I pre-ordered Addams Family and the SSF kits I am extrenely satisfied. Is it perfect, Not Even! But, it has allowed me own something that for years I watched and only dreamed about. I'm aware that I'll probably get slammed, but the constant complaints and negativity, especially about the ZEN tables and AtGames, while legit in some aspects, and it is their right as customers, but it's starting to bum me out. As far as OTG, it might be something I'll look at in the future. At this time having almost 200 games with PinballNet that I don't need to do anything but load and play is going to keep me, my friends, and family busy and happy for quite awhile. Hopefully your right, and updates will continue that fix and/or add features for a even more enjoyable experience.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Great post Dale (and thanks for watching). Here's the thing nay-sayers always omit - there are no alternatives. The 4KP is, as far as I know, the only 4k licensed pinball machine in the world. And when these machines are on sale (as they are now, $100 off), it makes them a very attractive way to add a sweet looking, fun as heck, vpin to their man-caves.
@jonathanrowe1827
Ай бұрын
I've been on the fence for this. I like the concept but now the 4k Pinball packs will be $35 or so. At a fraction of the price i can make a Switch Pinball Cabinet just no scoreboard box
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Of course in the long run if you can build your own it will be cheaper/better. But most people can't or don't have the time/tools/etc. For a one-stop-shop option, it's pretty good.
@tmfcbog
Ай бұрын
Great review JD I have this machine and love it Bought it on your great and unbiased review Regards Gary
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Well I'm glad I could help! And thank you so much for the coffee!
@cwescrab
18 күн бұрын
How do you think the ALP 4k with SSF kit hooked up with a PC and running VPX compares to one of the much more expensive custom build 4k VPINS?
@evilgeniusentertainment
17 күн бұрын
I think it compares quite well actually. I'm using 4 amps & 7 speakers gong on my build, and the 4KP ain't too far behind. In fact the only real advantage my setup has is that I can easily turn up or down each amp (they're located on the bottom of the cab), whereas it's all or nothing on the 4KP. And just like the various VPX/FP pins, some games have better sound design then others. A game like TWILIGHT ZONE sounds straight up amazing on the 4KP - better then the VPX versions IMO. Bottom line is that I highly recommend the SSF kit.
@tech.noire.
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the nice review! My main question is why your backglass and playfield look so, so blue? It seems overwhelming. Is there a setting you have on or is that how it looks stock?
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Might be the camera - I def didn't white balance it for the pinball game.... looks great in real life!
@tech.noire.
Ай бұрын
@@evilgeniusentertainment Good to know, thank you for clarifying! I'm looking forward to grabbing one of these after missing the first version for $200 on Clearance.. Might still be salty but I'd rather have 4K anyways. Waiting on an unthemed version so I can just mod it up myself.
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
The SSF kit is the big game changer over the ALP. The graphics are quite a bit better too, but it's that interactive sound that really makes it feel real. There's a big firmware update coming at the end of the month too, so hopefully that addresses the lag issues. It's a sweet machine man....
@TheBigb1973
Ай бұрын
I doubt the lag gets fixed. The pcb cant run the tables.
@MrSteveonbroadway
Ай бұрын
It's that unreal engine,,there is lag on fx but not on the older fx3..
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I wonder if they'd ever consider going back to the FX3 engine. Those FX3 games look fantastic on a 4K screen (shockingly so). If they can't sort out the lag on Unreal, they may have to regardless.
@TheBigb1973
Ай бұрын
@evilgeniusentertainment ill bet they release a whole new machine within a year with a newer pcb and call it v2.0.
@KingEdAV
Ай бұрын
Well, I disagree. My Snoopy table had terrible lag when first purchased. Lag is now non-existent. I get immediate response pressing the flippers and can now go between Gottlieb and Zach tables and back to Snoopy without any trouble. Same for AFM. AtGames has done a great job improving the lag.
@MrSteveonbroadway
Ай бұрын
More Gottlieb tables please.. those games our at the age people with expendable income want,, There our age....
@evilgeniusentertainment
Ай бұрын
I'd like to see more vintage tables period! I'm want ALIEN STAR bad....
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