I have considered what you have said and decided none of it has value as it can't be proved either way. There may be an afterlife, but making specific claims about it seems a fools errand. Predestination means you have no agency, so it is waste of time to talk about it. Or there is no predestination and the subject is equally moot. Like the afterlife there is no way to know, so it is not a subject worth diving into unless you need unearned certainty. I like the idea of karma in so much it makes you more mindful of your choices. Please note, karma is not in your bible at all. You are mixing up dogma.
@sparkthego
4 ай бұрын
The bible doesn’t say “karma” but it implies it many times
@sparkthego
4 ай бұрын
Furthermore "proof" does not have the merit that your implying. People believe a lot of things based on the testimony of others who claim its "proof". A lot of scientific theories about the world that people believe have not actually been proven rather it's based on evidence and plausible ideas. Which are to a similar degree to the evidence and plausibility of the ideas that I'm bringing forward.
@sharper68
4 ай бұрын
@@sparkthego No definitive assertion about eternity has any merit outside the prism of your feelings. It is not science thing as the immaterial is not something science can test. No one has proof of the divine because it is not an idea that requires proof to function, it instead relies on good feels and faith. Science does not value faith within it's arguments because it is intangible and unmeasurable. Only evidence and empirical replicated proof gives you weight in that world. Atheism has no direct connection to science at all outside it may be the tool they adopt to explain the world, but there is no real link between them. They are not mutually inclusive. To be an atheist means you have a single position on a single issue, that you do not have the faith to believe in a god informs nothing else you think outside a theist proclivity of magical thinking. Makes it hard to be a radical.
@sparkthego
4 ай бұрын
Im not sure how many people are theistic because of “feelings”. People make associations and have a logical aspect to their beliefs. You can argue that the association and logic is flawed but you can’t say it’s basis is fundamentally different to why for instance someone believes there is no God.
@zerothehero26
4 ай бұрын
Its not that atheists dont consider the reasons you provide, we just dont find them "good" reasons for anything. Sorry if our standards are higher than the floor.
@sparkthego
4 ай бұрын
Don’t look at this as an attack on an atheist for not coming up with these points. My intention was that atheists don’t discuss these points because by definition of being an atheist. So i was proposing different ways of looking at suffering. Ironically my first point was shared with atheists thinking. However i hardly think that being open the idea of life beyond this physical realm is standard of the floor.
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