If you want to try or buy VSX, you can support me by using my affiliate link here: stevenslateaudio.com/?ref=Wynne Important: I have been inundated with messages, emails and comments asking how I set these headphones up. It’s just a case of following the set up guide and takes about 2 minutes the first time you use them. After that there is no additional set up. Please read below for information about how I compared them. I tested each headphone with both a high quality headphone amplifier and a standard MacBook 1/8 audio output. I referenced, mixed and listened casually with each headphone over the course of many weeks and months to reach my conclusions. Good headphones should: 1) Provide an accurate, spacious sound stage to aid in mixing and mastering music. 2) Reveal low, mid and high frequencies without distortion so you can make quick production decisions. 3) Faithfully reproduce the dynamics and transient response of the material. 4) Reveal the true depth and image of audio material. 5) Feel comfortable on your head for many hours and be strong enough to withstand daily use.
@cgnature
Жыл бұрын
Thank your always informative videos...I watch ur videos religiously...wanted to ask if possible seeing that u encounter vocal session nd recordings could u do the same video for microphones 🎤 maybe explaining from ur mixing perspective on the most troublesomes mics or their characteristics etc you've picked on session you had to mix from different mics etc . Thank you again for u content keep up the good content. ❤🙏🏽
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
@@cgnature That would be interesting indeed! Admittedly, with microphones I believe that as long as the quality is decent, the placement and positioning of them is by far the most important aspect.
@Bro.00pm
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix true but am from kenya and 300 dollars is like 30000 shillings tooo expensive for me
@Drummer1000George
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix Maybe I missed this in the video or description but is this video sponsored in any way?
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
@@Drummer1000George at 2:05 I talked about how they sent me the pair (I’ve been sent dozens of headphones to test from many brands over the years) and I talked about how they paid me for my time testing and evaluating the headphones. In this video I am sharing my own opinions and experience, they have not paid me to say anything positive or negative about the headphones and they had no control over the video :)
@tevintarso
Жыл бұрын
Slowly transitioning from being just a rapper to being a full-time producer. This channel have been so helpful
@gravity00x
Жыл бұрын
VSX by far the best, most flat sounding, most versatile. I tested EVERYTHING else and nothing comes EVEN CLOSE. The soundstage imaging, the clarity, the bass response, the flat frequency response curve.... VSX gives the best BANG (bucks aside as it's price is nothing, compared to value) not even counting the studio and headphone emulations. My cons on the VSX are the comfort, but then again I've got a big fat knob for a head so it may vary for you. I also don't like leather pads as they make your ears sweat, especially if you produce/mix/master for long hours at a time. But that doesn't take away from making them the best headphones out of all of them anyways.
@WhittaII
Жыл бұрын
Finally decided to begin a journey producing music and stumbled across you. I could listen to you for hours brother. Thanks for being so informative and relaxing to listen to.
@bfreitas456
Жыл бұрын
I've always used and loved my m50x's but lately they've been collecting dust since my VSX's can perfectly emulate their sound. they even managed to replicate the m50x's soundstage and bass respose, sounds identical to me. it's truly impressive
@ELG1958
Жыл бұрын
I question why pay double for a pair of these to only replicate a headphone that is half the price. I would expect to not maybe get double the sound improvement but a serious margin of improvement.
@bfreitas456
Жыл бұрын
@@ELG1958 well, it can replicate, doesn't mean you have to care about that, it has a lot more to offer. this just makes the process of getting used to sound of the emulations and the headphone itself a lot easier. since I'm past that point I use this particular emulation a lot less, now I just use it as a tool to check the harshness of my high-end, since the bump around 10kHz of the m50x is very useful for that (if you're used to how they sound, of course)
@Aestareth_
Жыл бұрын
i hate the m50x though...
@bfreitas456
Жыл бұрын
@@Aestareth_ lol I understand that feeling. at first I didn't think they have a pleasant sound, and they really don't, it's harsh af, but they are quite useful for music production once you get used to how they sound. you're getting a very detailed sound for the price you pay. VSX is much more useful though, and can be quite pleasant depending on the preset
@Aestareth_
Жыл бұрын
@@bfreitas456 might as well get AKG 631s then. still, i think i'm gonna keep my HyperX Cloud IIs for now, until i'm ready to upgrade to higher tier headphones
@junior.von.claire
Жыл бұрын
You’ve earned my trust. The return policy means giving them a chance is simple enough. I love my Audio Technica ATH-M50s, but now am eager to check out the VSX. Thanks!
@ChrisBessy
Жыл бұрын
i dont understand why people like the m50x. I Tried them 3 times.... I have hurt after 20min, and the sound is very not flat... and my mixes sound not good when I use them.
@thelolmighty
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBessy Most people I know, including myself, replace the earcups right away with the AT-M40/50x series haha. Would be nice to not have to, but the cost still keeps them on the low end of the "Okay For Mixing" budget. And especially the high end with m50x could use some loving. But seems there's some great alternatives in this video!
@ssserotonin1373
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBessy not a fan either
@Filipendula69
Жыл бұрын
@@thelolmighty can you sugest me earcups for m50x. i have bought some thick ones and i lack some bass and sound is diferent on almost anything i listen.
@landonh3535
7 ай бұрын
What did you end deciding? I’ve been mixing on the athm50s for so long (with correction software to adjust the hyped eq) that mine are pretty worn down now. I’d love to try something else.
@TraxtasyMedia
Жыл бұрын
I got the Beyerdynamics DT 770 Pro 250 Ohms Impendace and I can't say how awesome they are. Finally I can pinpoint, issues, where I never had idea of they existed in my music.
@jonkthompson
Жыл бұрын
I love mine as well going into a Motu M2 and fit perfectly with my Adam Audio T7V's for reference.
@richrich1k
Жыл бұрын
Love the fact that you always get straight to the point without wasting time. My question is: do the VSX deliver an honest sound?
@jacobhutchings4119
4 ай бұрын
no
@brainheartofficial
Жыл бұрын
I am a better musician because of this channel. Keep rocking!
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian. You too!
@TihetrisWeathersby
Жыл бұрын
I've started learning how to compose my music a few years ago thanks to your videos, One day I might get the courage to post them lol
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
You really should share your creativity! If you want help with this, you could check out our Discord Server where you can share ideas and music without judgement. We are just a bunch of people who love music and support each other. The link is in the description of the video here.
@TihetrisWeathersby
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix Thanks
@thetrashpanda9085
Жыл бұрын
Currently using the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250 ohms and I absolutely love these head phones. Running them through the Presonus USB 96 and a Mackie HM4 to give them the extra power they need. So clear and balanced while also being comfortable on my large head. Having seen what the VSX is capable of, I may have gone with those if I didn't already invest in the DT 770s
@TraxtasyMedia
Жыл бұрын
yep same here, I run mine with the Pro-Ject Head Box DS. Rarely had such comfortable headphones and I can wear them all day long, without getting heavy on the head, it's like I don't even feel that I'm wearing one. And they're awesome for big ears.
@TheOnlyToblin
Жыл бұрын
Still the best youtuber for hobbyist musicians. Thank you for everything
@gobenmusic336
Жыл бұрын
Got tired of the "boxiness" of my M50x and needed something new. Bought the Vsx based on your recomendation and i have to say... Best Headphones i've ever had.
@jameskelk7825
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful as always. As others have said you have earned my trust with your superb repertoire of videos so naturally I came here as I need a new set
@kroh
Жыл бұрын
So I actually got the VSX headphones and I experienced something I haven't really heard anyone talking about, so I thought I'd leave a comment. The psychoacoustic effect that they use to get that sub bass frequency feels extremely uncomfortable to my ears. I'm not sure why because I've heard no one else talk about this, but it almost feels like a physical pressure on your eardrums. To me, I can barely stand it for longer than 30 minutes and it's why I will likely be returning them. I think it might be analogous to pressing your ear against a quiet subwoofer. No matter how quiet I listen, that pressure is always there. Also a few other things to note are that the headband does start to hurt after listening for a while, and the fact that they're closed back means your ears will get kinda hot and sweaty. In summary, it is impressive that they managed to get the bass response they did, but I think it comes at a severe cost of comfort.
@ChrisBessy
Жыл бұрын
thank you for your comment ..... :)
@SethPeterMusic
Жыл бұрын
Great and detailed video, planning on getting my first Professional studio headphones, thanks a lot 🙏
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I hope you find the right ones!
@Arthur.H.Studio
Жыл бұрын
You sold me on the VSX I have them now, and truly enjoy them!
@tomas_zamba
Ай бұрын
Hey, friend. Would you consider the clamping force on the VSX to be too tight? I’m thinking of getting one to use for longer sessions and that’s what bothers me the most on my current headphone
@2ndMOUSEofficial
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more about the vsx Michael. I have full confidence that what I hear when mixing with them, won't need altered when played back on another system. Because you get the feeling you're already listening to great monitors, there's no need to check them on actual monitors . Being able to check car stereo setups, boom box, and even earbuds just gives a great all round look at what you're doing from every possible angle. For me, these are a personal revolution.
@HumanBeingWithFeelings
Жыл бұрын
have you ever worked in one of those fancy studios the headphones "replicate"?
@cooperarbogast4018
Жыл бұрын
Love the video, but I'll take this with a hefty brick of salt. Every time a new, affordable piece of gear comes out, it's touted as the next best thing at half the cost with twice the features. That being said, I've heard great things about the VSX, but I've also seen everyone and their mother advertise for and be sponsored by Slate Digital in the last couple months. I think time will tell if this is a passing trend or an innovation. I'm a big fan of SD, but I like to wait for the marketing frenzy to die down a bit. That way if I'm disappointed in the purchase, there's no one to blame but myself. Edit: and where are the 280 Pro's?!
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
The 280 pros are unusable for mixing, they are more suited to broadcast and live playback situations. I reviewed them in my previous video ($50 to $150 review) if you would like to know my thoughts? I wanted to point out that SD is a different company from SSA in case there was some confusion. I was also highly skeptical of the VSX system but ultimately the sound and money back guarantee won me over. Researching and buying what you are most comfortable with is a good strategy, I hope my video helped.
@cooperarbogast4018
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix Oof, I guess it's a good thing mine have been relegated to tracking use these days, but I always got decent mixes out of them. and yes, my mistake SSA, not SD. Swear I'll mix those up till the end of time... Your videos are always a big help for gathering information on gear and mixing, so thanks for that!
@gravity00x
Жыл бұрын
i mean, have you seen the other thousands of reviews on the VSX post headband replacement? they are all genuinly and overwhelmingly positive. I was as skeptical, as you at first too. if you're still skeptical, take a look at the small youtubers, who arent getting paid to do any reviews. If that vaguely peaks your interest, grab them, test them for a day or two, depending on what your return policy is in your country, and if you find everyone else has been straight out lying, just send them back and get your money back lol. I got mine and was so blown away, that for the first time in my life buying a product, I reached out to the guy making them and actually thanked him. I know sounds like a massive shill, but they are just that good, there is nothing else that can be said about them.
@Deelusi
Жыл бұрын
Oooh! I was looking for new headphones and was looking for your old videos, good to know there's some sort of updated version!
@burning_KFC
Жыл бұрын
As always writing a comment to support the channel
@prododdc
Жыл бұрын
Hi. First off I want to say that I'm not an expert and what I'm going to say it's just my thought and experience. Before you spoke about the AKG I was expecting the "not enough bass", it's something I noticed in every AKG to be honest, people always tell me that AKGs are good, for recording, mixing, monitoring, etc. But when I produce with them I use to mix low end real bad, so I would never recommend any AKG.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I had the same experience as you, it seems. Thanks for sharing your input. The more opinions and reviews, the better!
@JoyfulWAVE
Жыл бұрын
Same here...I have some AKG 271 MK ll...no bass at all !!! Not very comfy for many hours. What i do like is that the sound mutes when you take them off. I got them 10 years ago for like 180€. Never again. 😉 At the moment im using the Superlux HD660 Pro for 49€....AND they sound 10 times better than the AKG. But im thinking about the DT700 or DT900 or even the VSX now...👍
@prododdc
Жыл бұрын
@@tak-pa3134 Nah fam, it really depends, you can't do no trap, or drill without powerful ad distorted 808s. To make music and mix it as you want you need to hear it as flat as you can, that means without boosting or attenuating the low end or boosting the high-end. That's why certain gear is used as standard, like monitors, headphones, etc.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
Жыл бұрын
@@JoyfulWAVE i have the same AKG 271 MKII, no Bass, with sonarworks they have bass but the sound overall then feels wrong.
@GODAR_MUSIC
Жыл бұрын
I've just ordered them after watching this video. You help me become top tier producent. Thank YOU for everything you do for us. I wish you Health, Love and Abundance!
@UNICORNSF3ProgameplayProRACER
Жыл бұрын
Great video, have a happy weekend👍
@juniper_sona
Жыл бұрын
I got these headphones about a week ago and they have been simply incredible.
@bud1390
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good video (even if it feels a bit much like an ad). Some more info about the implementation of the VSX software would have been good. Apparently it's vst/au/aax only, so no (hustle-free) use outside of the DAW without 3rd party SW!? Also iLok or HW Dongle to use!? These are important factors for some and should definitely be mentioned in a review.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I use them out of the DAW and don’t fond the 3rd party soundsource app to be any trouble. Truthfully I have used sound source for a long time because it allows me to run anything on any output or input. I regularly use EQ when watching videos, movies, KZitem ect :)
@bud1390
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I use a similar tool (APO EQ) for Windows, which has some onboard FX and can host VSTs as well (mostly for dealing with my pesky room-modes). Just felt that, with the SW as a central point of your praise, these things would be of insterest for some.
@toddvandeau5238
Жыл бұрын
Every headphone has imperfections, but using a software component allows that to be improved. I wonder if you would consider comparing all units without software, and comparing all with software, perhaps using something like Sonarworks for the units that do not have dedicated software?
@NickHope
8 ай бұрын
The Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X are 345g. So I agree that they are heavy. All 7 other headphones I compared them too were between 235g and 290g. So too much pressure on the top of my head for me, which I could tell (when I tested them in the shop) would get uncomfortable over a long session. They did sound fantastic though.
@thelisted3004
4 ай бұрын
Been umming and erring about VSX for a while, but when Steven Slate said you reviewed it and loved them… that just about got me sold! Respect you a lot so if you say they’re that good they must be amazing
@inthemix
3 ай бұрын
Thanks! If you haven't got them yet, it's a great time to get them because you get some extra rooms free with the standard version here: stevenslateaudio.com/?ref=Wynne
@AleksiJoensuu
Жыл бұрын
Comfort is a weird aspect of headphone reviews. I mean, it's obviously very subjective as said here. But I also feel it's probably the single most important aspect of a headphone, especially if it's wrong. I mean, I can get by with a little bit weird sound profile, but I can't get by with an uncomfortable set. I have especially loved reviews that go into detail on the comfort side, as it's also something many manufacturers don't go into detail themselves! For example, ear pad measurements are something that's invaluable to people with big ears. Some manufacturers call 35mm inner diameter pads over-ears, but for me about 55mm is the minimum to actually go around the ear.
@harlekurtmusic
Жыл бұрын
Very good review, made me consider the VSX again even though I have LCD-X! One minor detail, though: you said this is 'not spatial audio' - If you mean Apple's term for their spatial rendering technology, I see, but if not, then I'm a little confused. Assuming VSX utilizes HRTF binauralisation, then that pretty much _is_ spatial audio, or are they doing something else entirely? Thanks and keep it up! Really enjoy your videos.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Forgive me, it is spatial audio. What I mean is that it is not random 3D audio around the head. As far as I know, the VSX does utilise HRTF along with some other proprietary technologies. I didn’t mean to cause any confusion but I hope that clears it up?
@harlekurtmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix thank you! Would have been amazing if they just came up with something else. That cleared it up 👌🏼
@TihetrisWeathersby
Жыл бұрын
I've been telling people forever that you don't always need to spend an insane amount of money to get good quality
@gravity00x
Жыл бұрын
to be fair though, the vsx hit so far above their price range, that they make the other headphones seem overpriced to hell. there is nothing in the price range that even comes close.
@PRECIOUSTATIC
Жыл бұрын
It's a subjective thing!!
@hi-dq4sh
Жыл бұрын
@@PRECIOUSTATIC how?
@PRECIOUSTATIC
Жыл бұрын
@@hi-dq4sh because if you are satisfied with the quality you are getting with those equipments than it's ok, otherwise you have to upgrade the equipment.
@hi-dq4sh
Жыл бұрын
@@PRECIOUSTATIC yeah the quality you need is a subjective thing but what he is saying is vsx gives the high quality like a monitor speaker and treated room
@michaeltablet8577
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much this is really helpful!
@MuddyGunns
Жыл бұрын
We need MORE VIDS From IN THE MIX! I love how you just get straight to the point of the video. I am gonna check out the VSX Cans! I currently use the BeyerDynamic 990 Pro (the older ones), which I love!
@djeclyps
5 ай бұрын
Wasn’t even thinking about the VSX’s just because I loathe “emulation” typically when I hear it said, but now I’m going to have to try them. I think aside from the focal headphones, I tried them all and totally agree with what you said about them. Good job!
@Vistra_Beatz
6 ай бұрын
You did a good job of explaining the variables here! all these companies should pay you for this work! Especially with everything being ordered online these days, it's hard to compare headphones. Question: Does the VSX spatial audio create any latency - or would that primarily heavily depend on CPU capacity/usage?
@KD9-37
Жыл бұрын
Another Great Video Mate! Thanks a ton. Now im so hyped to get my hands on VSX 🤤
@communionhiphop
Жыл бұрын
I recently bought the VSX headphones, influenced in great part by your glowing review, but i find myself getting ear fatigued quickly when using them. I think perhaps the bass response on my ears is hurting my ears. Did you experience anything similar and if so how did you solve it?
@Barncore
Жыл бұрын
Turn the volume down
@MutleeIsTheAntiGod
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! My cat destroyed my MX20s a few weeks ago so I ended up buying some MX40s secondhand and couldn't be happier. Was thinking of bumping those to gym headphones and getting the MX70s but after this review I might go with some 50s in the future. Or maybe springing for the VSX for my studio headphones.
@Fruggggg
3 ай бұрын
dont get the 50s, even the m40x are better from a tuning perspective. skip them
@slayer2386
Жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to upgrade from my M70x after using it for years. The M70x is fantasic in my opinion for how clean it sounds, especially for orchestral / instrumental music. Do you think if I should get the VSX or something else for mixing & mastering? I don't mind spending over $300 if there's an even better choice. Thanks!
@gobenmusic336
Жыл бұрын
yes. the Vsx can emulate the M70x and speakers. Worth the money 100%
@jamwrightiam
Жыл бұрын
congrats on so close to 1 mil btw!
@LaidbackSounds
Жыл бұрын
VSX is the best mixing headphones by far. I almost feel pity for my very expensive monitors too sometimes lol (and pity for me to have shelved so much money on them lol)
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat as you!
@gegloff1
Жыл бұрын
I prefer my ATCs in my treated room over all the headphones I've used. I have the Sennheiser HD650s, which are very nice, and have even tried the $1,500 820s... But I always prefer speakers in a treated room since I'm lucky enough to have that. I'll probably try the Slates at one point, but would like to point out that some of the most useful tools for me are my $19 speakers I got from Staples, and listening on my phone and/or laptop in an untreated room. I've discovered so many mix mistakes from testing through those real sources.
@NullnVoid.
Жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you. You and Benn Jordan are the two main people I check in with for learning/buyers guides. Neither of you have let me down yet and seem to agree a decent amount of the time, at least where it counts.
@ruddmedia
Жыл бұрын
reaper is really tuff to learn had it for 3 yrs erased it got studio one 6 never looked back just sayin and i went to full saill for audio engineering classes!
@salvadorvenegas-escobar1388
Жыл бұрын
Concise yet very informative. Thanks!
@morten1
Жыл бұрын
I'm very satisified with my beyerdynamic DT 700 PRO X
@ChrisBessy
Жыл бұрын
how is the dt700 compare to the dt770 ?
@morten1
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBessy I tried the dt770 once long time ago, but don't remember the details. I just know that the dt700 are better, in my opinion I enjoy using them and have zero complaints about them. But I had to stretch out the headband, so it doesn't push so much in on the head. Now it's perfect. Do at own risk! ;)
@djse
Жыл бұрын
I recently switched to the VSX (after 10+ years with the DT770), and no regret. But still prefer the DT770 for its confort and building quality, if Slate would make their headphone as strong as the DT, it would be the ultimate combo (also with a more solid cable, the one I got was broken right out of the box). Slate got the DT770 in their emulation (and it's pretty close to the original I own), and I notice that the DT770 80 ohm is very different from the 250 ohm version. I only own the 80 ohm version, so if you try both, is it really that different ?
@ChrisBessy
Жыл бұрын
i have both here .... yes not the same. The 250 ohm is more precise in the mids, they sound more flat with a little more trebles. The 80ohm sound with more bass, but less precise for mixing.
@tomphillpotts
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBessy oh that's interesting I have 80ohm, need to try 250 then
@skyespearfishing
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro I'm excited for you to donate a set to your bigger brother!
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I will be donating asap :)
@alouisschafer7212
Жыл бұрын
Sundara?
@iTzMisTV
5 күн бұрын
I think Ima take a long break from mixing until I get some amazing headphones. I had no idea how important having great headphones when it comes to mixing. Wow. Like my music sounds good but when it gets to the car it’s like wait on my computer it sounds just right lol.
@thomasscheuringmusic
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's just that easy. Nice. Going to test them. Love your calm voice. Can you maybe recommend amplifiers in different price ranges, too?
@neutralfog
Жыл бұрын
Great reviews. Thank you so much! ⚜
@cripstick4336
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always I might have to get a pair of the vsx, i currently have the 770 pros
@cdney8285
Жыл бұрын
Oh that headphone transition is so cool😀
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
You’re the first person to comment on it! Thank you, I’ve been trying to improve my video quality these days :)
@KeithCopeland778
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very comprehensive review!!!! I currently use the ATH-M50X and really like them. I've never heard of the VSX headphones and am very curious about them!
@CarsonHoy
Жыл бұрын
The VSX AND subpac at the same time is an absolute bass production/mix/mastering cheat code.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I’ll have to give that a try!
@shorerocks
Жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent video, thx. I have to say, though - you are aware that you have the PERFECT model head for wearing and showing headphones, right? Right? 🙂 Cheers from Germany!
@AironExTv
Ай бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for the tests.
@TheVideogamemaster9
Жыл бұрын
I was actually just in the market for some headphones after the jack on my DT-770Pro broke, and I don't have the tools to disassemble and solder a new one, so I ended up getting a relatively inexpensive pair of the AKG K72. Not bad for 50 bucks, you just have to wear them at a specific angle. And I got another pair of Sony MDR-7506s, which is what I used years ago, but they honestly sound and feel different than I remember.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
The MDR-7506 do not sound the way I remember them either, it's funny that you feel the same way.
@LaidbackSounds
Жыл бұрын
some on amazon are fake actually
@MrBumpalicious
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix yeah the MDRs feel like they super compress all the high end for me. Mixing on them does not translate well at all
@ChrisBessy
Жыл бұрын
@@MrBumpalicious same here, when i mix with the sony, my mix then is so close in the trebles ...... my hd280 translate better.
@dfizzbom
Жыл бұрын
Great video! So The VSX is way beyond the waves NX stuff?
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Truthfully it has been a long time since I used NX. My experience at the time was not positive and I decided not to showcase it on the channel. I think combining a purpose built headphone with the software is what makes it work for me. I wonder if others who have tried it could add to the discussion?
@ufkrec
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is way superior
@Barncore
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this video is the most convincing case for VSX i've seen yet
@stevenrayphoto1280
7 ай бұрын
Perfect review and I am a new subscriber! If you could only have one set of headphones to mix with what would you choose-Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro or VSX?
@ROMAN_music
6 ай бұрын
both are bad. I recommend you buy sennhieser HD560S or 555 with mod \ 595 and do eq on sub. OR buy ATH R70X
@shotguntimmy
Ай бұрын
@@ROMAN_music whats the difference between the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 pro and Sennhieser HD560S?
@ROMAN_music
Ай бұрын
@@shotguntimmy The 560s have an even frequency response, but the 1990 have a crooked response, the sound from the speaker is similar to gaming headphones, so they should not be used with music
@ProgressiveDub
Жыл бұрын
I don't doubt that the Steven Slate VSX are a great pair of headphones, but the video is "The Best Headphones Under $300" and the VSX option that you have sells for £499 (or $615), so double that of the price range in the video. I feel that's VERY important to point out. Also, I'm against DLC in any form, so asking for that premium price for DLC of specific spaces just doesn't sit well with me. Cheers as always for your videos and opinions :)
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
VSX essentials are $299
@ProgressiveDub
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix They're £329 ($418) from the UK dealer, and as I mentioned in my original comment, the version that you showed with all of the mixing environments is £499 ($615), so my comment stands 👍
@danielhipwell3607
Жыл бұрын
Hi there, thanks for the review. I love your channel. I've never really been good with eq and love listening to electro dance music but these headphones you've reviewed here are really peaking my interest. Do you think it would be worth for me to invest in a pair given these factors. I've currently got a Volt 1 and Apollo Twin and the DT 770 and DT 990. The VSX's seem to be a real step up.
@gravity00x
Жыл бұрын
no, those are not headphones to enjoy music with. for that there are better headphones. these are critical listening headphones and a room emulation system to further enhance that CRITICAL listening. not for listening enjoyment.
@danielhipwell3607
Жыл бұрын
@@gravity00x For listening enjoyment i'm thinking of refining my headphone search with either Audio Technica M50x, Sennheiser HD 25 or Beyerdynamic Pro X 700 for listening to edm music. Any thoughts on those 2 for this purpose? Thanks
@Dubsteppah
5 ай бұрын
My wife borrowed my Audio Technica atx m50's and she fell in love with them. They're hers now, haha. She uses them for TEAMS and ZOOM meetings, and she says they are the best audio quality for calls, and she really loves them. So, I am searching videos like these now for a replacement pair 😂
@noahabel5698
2 ай бұрын
Just ordered the DT 900 Pro X. My ears are very sensitive and I need soft pads and light clamping power. I am excited to try them!
@melokit-music
Жыл бұрын
Thx for this review
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@rizzyinstrumentals
Жыл бұрын
great video as always! you talked about the importance of setting the vsxs up right or calibrating them. How would you go about that and what do you mean. greetings from Germany
@Mr.manpasserby
11 ай бұрын
The Grado Labs SR80 or SR125 or SR225 and Koss Porta Pro are an excellent choice too in an open-sounding style! Grado is it like a sense of a life like at a real concert
@nicholasmorrill4711
4 ай бұрын
Which are best for home listening? Remarkable that this is never mentioned.
@tantaloss8682
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. The VSX software looks pretty good, but it doesn't look like it has any head tracking capabilities to keep the "monitors" in the same relative position as you turn your head. This feature is present in the NX Studio software and is compatible with any webcam or with their own relatively cheap Bluetooth accelerometer accessory for it. I think all the small movements of your head being tracked and placed accurately in the room to hear the speakers slightly differently really sells the effect of sound coming from outside of the headphones. It seems a real bummer to me that the VSX software doesn't include this functionality.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the NX stuff with the head tracker? Admittedly I didn’t feel that it added to the immersion for me. It made me feel as though I had to stay in one exact position to make adjustments. I quite like that regular headphones and VSX sound the same no matter the rotation of the head.
@tantaloss8682
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix Yeah, I own the CLA NX version (which comes with the regular version as well, but anyway...). I personally don't use it as it's simply another thing to open and pay attention to when setting up a new project. I don't feel like the benefit of the room simulation of the NX studio plugin was worth the effort to do that, even with the headtracking turned on, but I haven't actually MADE that effort more than just a few times so I hesitate to actually say monitoring studio simulation won't be a useful thing for my workflow yet. On another note about room simulation, I was feeling like my brain was actually adapting to it and folding the room simulation "back into my head" when using NX's plugin and the fact that I typically move my head slightly during normal sitting and critical listening, the headtracking was able to tell my ears that, "yeah, actually the sound is not in my head but is coming from speakers that are over there," and helped to break that strange adaptation. This might be because I've actually never use external studio monitoring speakers for any sort of mixing or even casual listening, as in my life I've almost always had earbuds, IEMs, or headphones to wear when listening to music or watching movies/shows on the go. So maybe that regular isolated stereo experience you get with those is just what my brain subconsciously looks for and tries to adapt things into when I'm trying to listen and judge things critically. Anyway, that was a weird thing to try to explain, but I feel like without the headtracking functionality VSX would suffer from the same inward folding illusion and I'd have no way to combat it. Illusion is a funny word for it, because the room simulation is the actual illusion and what my brain is adapting it into is actually closer in it's origin to what the physical sound waves are actually doing from the headphones, but I hope you get what I mean. Also, I think it might be just a better way to simulate a studio environment, since that's closer to how it works in reality. Anyway, please let me know what you think about these thoughts if you don't mind taking the time. I feel like you always create great content here on KZitem and I value your opinion a lot!
@cfig81
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review, it will be nice if they includes all of the spaces
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I think it’s good that they have this cheaper option with less spaces so that we don’t all have to pay $499 to access everything in the Platinum version.
@cfig81
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix nah, the spaces should be include it in the same $299 package or improve the look and feel of the headphones because it looks fragile plasticish cheap. Thanks again...:)
@piyasirimusicproduction
Жыл бұрын
A great review as always! Perhaps my HD650 and DT 770 Pro, which I currently use when composing my orchestral music, will get a new colleague soon! ;) Thank you!
@dpixvid
Жыл бұрын
Did you ever buy the VSX? Want to upgrade my cans for orchestrating, sound design and film composing at the indie level. Curious how dry sample libs, wet sample libs, arranging and mixing to room emulations is valuable.
@piyasirimusicproduction
Жыл бұрын
@@dpixvid No I didn't buy the VSX.
@robertrickman3531
Жыл бұрын
I'm Currently wearing a pair of AKG240's...Love 'em
@MrJabinho
Жыл бұрын
Sennheiser and Hifiman ?
@EnsoReloaded
Жыл бұрын
Yup, 6XX and Sundara probably way better than any of the reviewed ones...
@dolinaj_jr
Жыл бұрын
The VSX are very interesting! Do you think they would be also a good choice for video editing? (post-processing/mixing interviews, sound effects, music..)
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t test them for video editing yet but, funnily enough, I was listening to a podcast today and it made the experience so much more comfortable. Hearing the voices out in front of me felt more natural and easier to follow. I wasn’t expecting that but it did sound good, I think editing on them would require a lot of referencing.
@dolinaj_jr
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix Thank you very much! 🙌🏻 Are there any headphones you would recommend for video editing? Or possibly it can be any of the ones you mentioned in video? I would like to learn more about sound processing and also invest into more "accurate sounding" sound equipment than the one I use now.. (15€ yenkee speakers) 😅
@whatsupchicken
Жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you! Question to you and any other experts in the topic: Would you prefer VSX also for pleasure listening? And does the software give you this kind of enhanced experience option? What I mean is when your goal is not to monitoring as clearly as you can but having good time make the sound more exciting like a home cinema experience. Would it be still the VSX the best in this price range for that?
@gladimyjoseph8324
Жыл бұрын
Thank's a lot
@astralaudio101
Жыл бұрын
A review of the Beyer DT880 & DT990 would be appreciated. 👍
@taytmiller1782
Жыл бұрын
@inthemix what’s ur second favorite and why
@stx6671
Жыл бұрын
So VSX is great choice for people (like me) who dont have dedicated room as a studio and dont have good acoustic space to make use of good speakers
@filiprangus5826
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison! But I'm a bit confused, if you don't want to use the software that comes with VSX, are they still so great?
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Without software the headphones are good, in my opinion. I think the best option is to use the linear 2 model in the software if you want the headphones to sound their best. The raw headphone sound is not designed to be optimal on its own and is more of a blank canvas for modelling, as far as I am aware.
@PoulLarsenmusic
Жыл бұрын
VFX headphones suggestion for the next model: build in DSP in the headband for saving the "Room Settings" so you can use the headphones anywhere without needing the software. An on/off switch for the DSP
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
That’s actually a pretty neat idea. Would probably cost a lot but I’d be happy to see it!
@CrankCase08
Жыл бұрын
Superlux HD681F. Fantastic semi-open headphones with a flat response for a low price!
@FinSings
Жыл бұрын
How would you say the VSX headphones compare to the DT 1990 Pro headphones?
@gravity00x
Жыл бұрын
they trash them in every aspect apart from comfort.
@KevinWayne
Жыл бұрын
Well, I picked out the ATH m40x a few years back - Heard it was the most neutral and the 50s actually add bass. Didn't even know there were any 70s yet. Nice to know I didn't waste my time & money with something else. At least I can say that~! 😁
@Cake_Doge
Жыл бұрын
I have heard about their modelling technology before and I also believe your word. very interesting stuff but one thing that has been bothering me is the looks. It looks too plasticy and so, it looks cheap even though it. I think a better design, contrasting colours or materials and maybe a better design for the logo would be perfect. I might sound nitpicky but with that they can achieve perfection.
@eliteculture1519
Жыл бұрын
How did you get the mt48 in black?!? Is it limited edition or somthing?!? Great video 👍🏽
@hubadonga
Жыл бұрын
What happens if you try some of the other headphones with the modeling software that comes with the VSX? Is the magic in the headphones or the software? Would any of the the other better headphones out of the bunch you have there sound just as good? Thanks.
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
This is a great question. For modelling/binaural perception software to work it is essential to have a calibrated reference pair of headphones that the software was built around/calibrated to. I was so skeptical of VSX before I tried it because the other room modelling softwares I had tried just didn't sound right. They were not designed for one specific headphone so didn't work well even with high end headphones. That was my experience although I think it aligns which many users.
@hubadonga
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix Excellent. Thank you.
@mixchifius
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Since you plase such emphasis on set up of the VSX's would you maybe make a video about how you set them up?
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I should have specified that the set up is a one time process that takes around 2 minutes. Its a set up guide produced by SSA which explains the controls on the plugin.
@anthonye3198
Жыл бұрын
I own a pair of focal utopias (5000 Australian dollars at the time) and even with these incredible headphones designed for mixing you can still make mixes that sound like crap. Don’t believe the hype that if you have a flat frequency response and good imaging then that is all that it takes. It takes way more. You can mix on any crappy system if you’ve referenced good commercial mixes. This is by far the best thing you can do to achieve an amazing mix. It beats the crap out of the sound quality of the playback system. The advice is free and it doesn’t come with any price tag. ‘Reference’ your favorite song all throughout your mixing session and you’ll end up with a mix that sounds amazing everywhere you play it.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
Жыл бұрын
i doubt that they are made for mixing, this sounds like the audiophile world, a hearing and buying disorder, which is what you should stay far, far away from as a producer. ofc they dont translate at all.
@PeterMahesh
Жыл бұрын
I feel pretty bad and sad ☹ For a long time, I wanted to buy the VSX but was not sure to make the leap. So, after contemplating for a long time, I decided against the VSX and bought something else just last month. Had this video come out 1 month ago, I would've surely gone for the VSX, cos I trust your reviews. I guess buying a VSX will have to wait.
@lijahfinch3949
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that man. If it makes you feel better I was gonna spend $300 on the VSX headphones but then I gotta a ticket for window tint and guess how much…$300 lol
@friendlyplayer92
Жыл бұрын
Sell and buy vsx
@PeterMahesh
Жыл бұрын
@@lijahfinch3949 really sorry about that! Hope you can save and get a VSX before the price goes up!
@PeterMahesh
Жыл бұрын
@@friendlyplayer92 I guess I'll save and get one before the prices go up.. It's very costly here in India.. Roughly translates to around $650
@jakeyboy2929
3 күн бұрын
Does the VSX come with the necessary software?
@LURKING323
Жыл бұрын
Can you work on creating a beat while using the vsx headphones or would you use these headphones only when it comes time to mixing the beat?
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
Great for all stages. I would produce in one of the more creative and bassy rooms!
@eamesdnb
Жыл бұрын
This would be more of a general question about headphones and studio speakers since I am just in my first year of mixing. In which instances do you use your headphones and in which your studio speakers and vice versa? I myself have pioneer dm 40 d speakers and crappy headphones. If you read this, thanks for the content. It helped me a lot with getting started in FL Studio
@chromeatic788
Жыл бұрын
Although you mentioned the VSXs sound good on their own. Without the software, how would you say they sound compared to the rest? I know it somewhat defeats their purpose, but I'm still interested in what the headphones are like on their own.
@shapeshifter404
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely detailed and flat on their own. They definitely shine with the software though
@wateryevents960
Жыл бұрын
As a bass player, the VSX headphones sound like a great option for me. I use Ableton live lite with a focusrite scarlett solo gen 3 for recording.
@sour2396
Жыл бұрын
I don't need any headphones. Still watched the video^^
@elzurixmusic
Жыл бұрын
This is super interesting, because from what I remembered you prefer open back headphones, and in general I've heard open backs give you better stereo field and are better for mixing and mastering. But now you're saying that the VSX headphones are this good, that they can beat even speakers, which are the most open back you can get audio to sound like, how can a closed back headphones can even be compared to speakers? I'm really curious if high end open back headphones like the DT 1990, or even high end closed back headphones can be compared to that (and ofcourse let's assume you're in a quiet environment with a proper audio interface that can drive both) Because I was so sure these would be my dream headphones and now I'm starting to question myself and perhaps the VSX are just better. Also just for context, I want to upgrade my DT 770 pro, and I have proper speakers
@GODAR_MUSIC
Жыл бұрын
Hello my friend. I have a big question. I see that most of the producers use dt 770 pro. I want to ask what do you think about the choice [ DT 770 pro VS. VSX] Is there a big difference between them? Big Enough!? I know there is a difference for sure, so to make the question straight, is it worth spending additional 250 $ (because that's the price gap) and get VSX? Or is it like "you will do great with both, but VSX gives you a (BIT) better mid depth (or something) and cool features like car,studio,club listening?
@drefue
Жыл бұрын
I understand you’re an Acustica guy and you commented on your general disappointment with sim software; have you tried Sienna, and if so, how does it compare to VSX system?
@inthemix
Жыл бұрын
I tried Sienna and as much as I love acustica (despite never being sponsored by them!) I just can’t get on well with Sienna. It sounds artificial to my ears.
@drefue
Жыл бұрын
@@inthemix yeah, that was my experience as well … which is why I’m skeptical about trying another sim system. I switched to a detailed EQ headphone profile I discovered online and plugged it in after an instance of Goodhertz CanOpener, for some crosstalk. To date this has given me the best results. However, given that my situation doesn’t allow for monitors, I continue my search for that which can provide me with the ideal headphone mix. It just seems like everything sim comes up short
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