Have you managed to listen to David's deep dive podcast? He talks about how much he was manipulating players like Phoebe to show him her idol and how he was really conscious of how to control majority. Apparently before the merge he laid out the moves that his tribe needed to pull to keep majority and they all just followed them without really targetting him. Really interesting listen.
@kyosotacomics
4 жыл бұрын
That deep dive was amazing .. a long one but amazing.
@cl4331
2 жыл бұрын
Very Golden God move. 🙂 💪
@jasoncastello5693
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your list completely. I always like to give some extra credit to Shane because she was so much older than the rest of her cast, and typically the older woman does not do well on Survivor. I always found that super impressive, but I agree with your rankings.
@generic_username_here1
4 жыл бұрын
Timestamps 1:45 Number 5 Kristie 6:43 Number 4 Shane 9:10 Number 3 Jericho 12:21 Number 2 Pia 15:34 Number 1 David
@rosiellagrace
3 жыл бұрын
While I do adore Kristie's FTC and respect her game anyway, I am super glad she won over Lee.. if Lee had won, who knows how the game would have been played in the future. It could have gone more mateship / honour / loyalty than actual 'Survivor' game play, so, Kristie bein' the winner kinda makes the initial season conclude like it should have.
@kyosotacomics
4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I agree with the list 100 percent.
@mattjones9843
4 жыл бұрын
Ok wait. I don’t get how Pia being actively a second I command is a dominant game, where as Shane doing similarly is a detriment to her game?
@nizzle428
4 жыл бұрын
because shane was second to mat and after he got voted out at nine, she lost all her power
@dalecrez8708
4 жыл бұрын
This list was pretty predictable but either way I love you're input you're view on the game is very unique and I love how almost every vid I think I know where you're opinons are on players but you just completley shock me which i love, shake it up! Few things I think about the list 1. You're view on Kristie is valid I mean i fucking lover her I really relate to her for being an oddball but I still gag over her FTC 2. With Brian being Bitter I think he was always going to vote for Shane he never really had any relationship towards Sharn they never seemed to like each other and at least with Shane they had a elderly couple relationship. 3. Jericho and Pia are so hard to rank that it realy does come down to you're own view on the game. I edge out Pia cause I think at least her moves were considered and thought out Jeri did moves cause why the fuck not 4. David is amazing we all know that could have calmed down on his edit but still a strong peformance none the less 5. Stan Queen Shonee!!!!
@viniciusrocha749
4 жыл бұрын
i can feel your anger when you talk about Kristie. I liked her win
@ethancostellostudent1698
4 жыл бұрын
Me too! I think she had an awesome story! Her final jury speech was absolutely amazing! She may’ve done everything else wrong but her final jury performance was OUTSTANDING
@kikiplays6192
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too , i comment how meridiam downplay kristies game ,obviously she didnt ruin her game, she shouldnt flip cuz she will not won
@Tcottong
4 жыл бұрын
His rankings focus on dominance so it makes sense he dislikes kristie. She didn't dominate or steer the game really. However to me her FIGHT is more interesting and worthy than a winner like natalie white or amber. Kinda in an odd way kristies win reminds me of bob from gabon
@philbox3productions
4 жыл бұрын
Kristie is a closer plain and simple. She may have stumbled to the end but she was able to close it at the end.
@tumicduguar2583
3 жыл бұрын
She sucked. Worst winner ever in any country of Survivor. And I am someone who usually loves female winners.
@alexjames4770
4 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, Luke and Jeri vote against Kent simply to make it a tie, and flip back, in order to stir up paranoia so that the majority would split, while also opening the door for them to work with both the majority and minority later on. (Which worked) So while the move should technically be attributed to Luke there was sound logic to it. Also in regards to David, if David hadn’t worked with Matt (which was a revolutionary strategy) Matt likely blindsided either Locky or him with his idol. David is able to insulate himself completely on the original Vakama tribe by working with the leaders of both alliances, then he sacrifices Phoebe, who was planning to flip on him anyways, so that way Mo, Sharn and Lee trust him fully. Not to mention working with Matt to eliminate the lower members of the two Vakama alliances helps keep more shields for David later on in the game. (Locky, Brooke, AK) He was arguably the biggest threat, was known to have an idol, and was one of the best players in immunity challenges, and STILL was not openly targeted until the final 7, and Sharn backed off that plan, waiting until the final 4, where obviously he wins the last two immunity challenges. The only time he was ever really in jeopardy was the 2nd Exile vote, where obvious it only took two votes to send someone to Exile, and he still made it through.
@itzwakk335
Жыл бұрын
you summed up kristie's game perfectly that's exacctly how i felt watching that season
@zztanerzz
4 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos I agree with mostly everything you say and I respect ur opinion thanks for great content
@rambo8550
4 жыл бұрын
I need to thank you man, my opinions of the game have drastically changed to realize that you're right about dominance. I used to think that saving yourself with an idol was a good thing, but your logic has legitimately changed my mind. Also, I've finally come to realize to people aren't ever just randomly put on the bottom, they have to actively position themselves on the bottom, and surviving from the bottom is a bad thing, because you can't fault better players for not being on the bottom and label it as "working harder"
@Anushka-gr5gs
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with the Kristie analysis!!
@Em.22.23
7 ай бұрын
I met Dave at the shops once, such a nice guy
@glassestarzan8702
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a casting for an international survivor season? Like US v SA vs AU or something like that. I feel like this would be incredible, especially as like a season 50 idea. Sort of like a world cup, but for Survivor.
@springtome74
4 жыл бұрын
Even though i really enjoyed seasons overall, i always felt like their winner’s performance is little bit lackluster. Because it run so long making it hard for active, dominant or interesting player to go to end, i don’t have anything against floaters, successfully floating is good game play but year after year their winner was becoming kind of predictable until all star.
@officialthreegang
4 жыл бұрын
The Neiman channel is gonna be mad because it’s not American.
@blazegod8490
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@blazegod8490
4 жыл бұрын
Predictions: from 5th to 1st. Kristie Shane Pia Jericho David
@jackspiegel4
4 жыл бұрын
That’s four lol
@blazegod8490
4 жыл бұрын
@@jackspiegel4 yeah somehow I forgot to add Jericho, lol
@reubenmanzo2054
3 жыл бұрын
I'd have Pia and Shane the other way around, but otherwise I agree.
@kwads1909
4 жыл бұрын
Outside of David, one of the biggest hits on Australian survivor is how weak their winners are. Hopefully all stars set in motion a new standard.
@lucasroberts3489
4 жыл бұрын
i can agree even tho i think pia is a fantastic winner as well bc she was such a huge threat when it came to social game and she still made it. i preferred sharn over shane 100% and kristie’s ftc is her only redeeming factor in her win but jericho is the worst of the bunch tbh i didn’t really get his gameplay
@andhiewuu
3 жыл бұрын
It’s because Australian survivor is a stretttttttch compare to US. 50 days and 24 players, all good players will be eliminated before they go to the merge or right after the merge. It is so exhausting for dominant players to stay safe that long in 50 days and with 24 people in the game lol But I don’t see Pia as a weak player, her strategy works pretty well for 50 days with 24 people.
@duncan3932
6 ай бұрын
4 more seasons and the winners are considerably stronger
@bencalebrod
4 жыл бұрын
I think it pretty much goes without saying the Celebrity AU Survivor winner falls dead last and the 2002 AU Survivor winner is number 2.
@LB-py8ls
3 жыл бұрын
Well the 2002 au winner is actually number 1. (Watch his international survivor winner rankings)
@HarryMonaghanComedy
3 жыл бұрын
Think you're downplaying David's early game In regard to the Daisy-double idol move, they didn't know he was the mole. And that move helped him: a) Get rid of Daisy who didn't trust him from their season. When Locky was blindsided at merge Locky trusted David so much he was even questioning if it was Brooke that blindsided him. That level of trust would not have existed if Daisy stayed in the game. b) Built trust with Mat's alliance which later helped him after the tribe swap (he was completely swap f*cked but because of the ground work he did early he ended up in a great position).
@hamishfairey847
2 жыл бұрын
Post game interviews revealed that the majority knew he was the mole and were planning to vote him off if they lost, and that's apparently why everyone didn't really want to talk to him come the swap
@kharihammon9784
Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@jeoltem
3 жыл бұрын
My impressions of the winners: 1. David is a second-time player, the fact that he got away with all the shenanigans is impressive, I was not expecting him to last that long. 2. Pia played a quiet game, In many aspects, she did better than David is just unfortunate that her game does not make as good tv as David's. 3. Shane is really good at building a strong house with throw away materials, It's her kind and unassuming nature that makes her likable in the eyes of the jury. Her auction performance is tv gold. 4. Jericho is kind of annoying, not a bad player or winner, but not my favorite of his season. 5. Kristie is an unconventional winner, her FTC performance was selling cucumbers to the Gardners and it works. If you can bullshit your way in the game as David did then is ok to bullshit at the FTC. if was good for the duck then it's food for the mallard as well. I think is best to consider the personalities of the winners and the hand that was given to them, Kristie and Shane are no David, Jericho was unimpressive the second time around, Pia can do well as a returning winner.
@ingodube4519
2 жыл бұрын
I really think Shane's run is impressive. However, in terms of dominance, she had less agency than Jericho, Pia and David.
@isaakberghe837
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch I video yet but I'm gonna guess your list: 1. David 2. Jericho 3. Pia 4. Shane 5. Kristie
@AbiNomac
4 жыл бұрын
Silver Owens - David should be no:1 even in the American Survivor and every Survivor ever produced.
@reubenmanzo2054
3 жыл бұрын
My list would be: 1. David 2. Jericho 3. Shane 4. Pia 5. Kristie
@Anushka-gr5gs
2 жыл бұрын
That’s my ranking
@XanderMatthews-nv9zf
Жыл бұрын
Kristie is legitimately so hard to rank cause her pre-merge is terrible-hard agree on the Rohan misplay even tho he also screwed up voting for Kat over Sue But once the merge hits she plays basically the only winning game she can. Had she tried to flip the game like Connor, Kate, Nick, Kylie, Sue and, Jennah-Louise she likely would have gone to ponderosa just like them, they were not a group of unified outsiders and exited literally back to back, like yeah she gets voted but she only in actual danger at the F9 The F7 round is fine for her, and the F6 move really isn’t BAD. I could knock her for not ousting El at the final 5, but that likely burns Lee so that would screw her regardless. The F4 was the only decision she could have made, with El having immunity she either eliminates Flick or tries to eliminate Lee who is the ONLY player she could reasonably beat(excluding players she likely couldn’t have ended up with) Lee played a good game on paper but it pissed the jury off-Nick and Jennah Louise hated him and never were gonna vote him, tack on Sue and Kylie as collateral damage with only El as a lock who he DIDNT EVEN PLAN ON LETTING MAKE THE JURY Kristie really had no other chance but to play the game she did, betting her entire game on the FIC is essentially the only option she had like even if it’s a long shot at least she can read the game
@hamishfairey847
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kristie's game is as bad as you say it is, especially come the merge where there wasn't really any position available besides the position that got her through. Although her game wasn't amazing, I think she's actually a pretty decent player
@misfit2989
4 жыл бұрын
So in your top 10 aus survivor players you put Jericho above Pia but in this you put Pia above Jericho? Did you change your mind or something?
@elijah5374
4 жыл бұрын
Jericho!
@lightningmonkey706
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your list but Shane is worse than Kristie. Kristie made a conscious decision to align with Lee who protected her once her Vavau tribe was decimated. She also actively sold her game at final tribal which deserves so much credit. Shane just attached herself to Sharn. Sharn had the strategy, the idols, the allies and Shane was just dragged along. Then at final tribal, Sharn was bombarded with the questions and couldn't handle it. However, Shane won because Sharn lost but Kristie actively beat Lee which is impressive.
@strawberrymermaid8825
4 жыл бұрын
I kinda disagree with your thoughts on Kristie, but I can see how you think like that. (because her win is controversial.) But I feel like her almost invisible strategy worked really well in her season.
@strawberrymermaid8825
4 жыл бұрын
@Lucien I disagree...... I obviously do think she had luck. But her invisible strategy made her fly under the radar which got her far, and made her win the game.
@reubenmanzo2054
3 жыл бұрын
@@strawberrymermaid8825 "invisible strategy". Sure, so invisible even we couldn't see it. I mean, Kristie talked about "it's subtle, but it's a move." so I went back through the season specifically watching Kristie. Apart from the turn around against Phoebe (which was only made possible due to the kidnap twist previous tribal), I still couldn't find the moves.
@AbiNomac
4 жыл бұрын
Wait David has been on the show twice. He learned a lot the second time and won. Best player ever
@missd3605
Жыл бұрын
The winner of 2002 has died I think? Which is sad
@Em.22.23
7 ай бұрын
This version wasn’t around in 2002?
@duncan3932
6 ай бұрын
@@Em.22.23it was, the show got cancelled after 2 seasons and they brought it back in 2016
@frederic3988
4 жыл бұрын
The Australian winners have been really mediocre although the show is the best. They should change it to final 3.
@folseygaming5174
3 жыл бұрын
yea they need to make it a final 3 with a fire challenge at 4. that way luke would have deservingly won his second season making it one of the best winners of survivor all time in any country
@duncan3932
6 ай бұрын
@@folseygaming5174maybe, Baden was a beast at that final immunity though
@the_fd_180
3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion you don't need to be in the majority all the time. Underdog stories are better imo. Yes lots of luck is involved.
@crimzlucas
4 жыл бұрын
if david isn't here i quit
@adamk9542
4 жыл бұрын
Bruh you're way too hard on Kristie
@kikiplays6192
4 жыл бұрын
For Kristie your wrong she shouldnt flip she didnt ruin her game, She won period you cannot say she didnt do anything as a fan of survivor we all know what they gone through just being stranded in a island, we dont have the right to say she didnt do anything, she starve and lack of sleep which we didnt experience.
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