I like some aspects of the Enterprise F, but the Enterprise E will always be my favorite. I remember seeing First Contact and people in the theater gasped at that shot of it flying on front of the Borg Cube. That thing was tough and beautiful.
@DocD173
Жыл бұрын
Noooo. NOOOO!! 😢 the E’s my favorite ship, and it’s been 20 years since we’ve seen it on screen. It deserves a proper send off as much as the crew
@TwinsenR
Жыл бұрын
@S. T. Correct, they won't even give the crew a proper send off, why would they do the most beautiful ship in Starfleet the same service?
@DininDalael
Жыл бұрын
Nah we last saw it in nemesis which was only WHAT THE FUCK
@pokes404
Жыл бұрын
It could be worse. You could get the answer that your favorite ship in the whole franchise; after surviving countless close calls against impossible odds, is finally done in by a defective, retired Bird of Prey because someone forgot to remodulate the shield frequency. So trust me, not knowing what happened isn't always the worst thing.
@beaubrouillette4507
Жыл бұрын
@@pokes404 No one forgot to Re-modulate the shields. Its just no one thought that Geordi's visor would be an instrument of espionage which is kind dumb considering the last time he was kidnapped it was used to brainwash him into almost assassinating a Klingon govern , so you would think that they come up counter mangers where his visor couldnt be exploited again
@pokes404
Жыл бұрын
@@beaubrouillette4507 The first few shots going straight through makes sense. After that, remodulating the shields should’ve corrected the issue. But you clearly see the BOP’s weapons bypassing the shields throughout the entire battle. Which means they either forgot to remodulate the shields, or they were able to keep getting the new frequencies from Geordi’s visor during the battle. The latter seems a little silly because Geordi’s probably pretty busy and not constantly looking at a screen displaying the shield frequencies while the ship is exploding. But fine, let’s say they were able to obtain the new frequencies during the battle. The thing is … you kind of need to show that happening in the movie. Otherwise you make the crew look incompetent. They should have just said that “the BOP took out the Primary EPS Power Distribution Node or whatever with their first shot. Shields are down and weapons are limited.” Would’ve explained away all of the dumbest elements of the battle.
@amazedsatsuma
Жыл бұрын
Not really shocking that we won't see the E in action since the F is currently active...through it would been nice if we get some idea what was the ship's finale fate in a passing reference
@JeffreyPiatt
Жыл бұрын
The enterprise E is appearing in Prodagy.
@Ottophil
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesw3413touch grass, get laid
@tehpw7574
11 ай бұрын
In reality, the E makes no appearance because of Royalties (most likely)... :/
@SuperGamefreak18
Жыл бұрын
I REALLY hope the E was retired because let’s be real the fight against the scimitar definitely shorted her service life and is probably sitting in a museum now with the A and B
@Adarkane325xi
Жыл бұрын
Did you miss the part at the end where they fully repair the ship in a time-lapse? Lemme guess - duh, yeah?!
@SuperGamefreak18
Жыл бұрын
@@Adarkane325xi nope didnt miss the repair job, I saw both the normal repair job with B4 trying to sing data's first song and the deleted scene with the seat belt. That repair restored the damaged portions of the ship, not fixed any additional strain to the ship's frame that the battle did. It survived the fight but the battle did wear on the ship overall.
@adeerdoes
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperGamefreak18 I highly doubt starfleet would do a "patch job" on their, at the time, flagship. Repairing just the big ol holes, nah. Most likely, the E's retirement is more down to technological advancement rather than "structural fatigue" she suffered around 2 decades prior
@SuperGamefreak18
Жыл бұрын
@@adeerdoes That's not what I was saying, I was more getting at the fact that while they did fully repair the ship, the strains to the frame itself could have played a hand in its retirement, and I more meant the ship losing a couple of years of its average service length.
@spartan.prime.7878
Жыл бұрын
Uh lady you seem to gave forgotten that if the saucer section was unsalvageaable. They would simply construct a new section, they have additional ship hulls in storage for the sole purpose of this. They followed the same plan for the galaxy class before the Dominion war.
@TurningAPropheticCorner
Жыл бұрын
The very last episode of "TNG" was called 'All Good Things.' And as we know, 'all good things must come to an end.' I prefer to think of "E" as being retired in a museum along with A & B. As you said .. all of the flagships work harder than other ships and after high miles, any craft gets retired. LL&P Cptn. Jack!
@matthewcaughey8898
Жыл бұрын
Warships work harder actually
@TurningAPropheticCorner
Жыл бұрын
@Chris Madison D was destroyed in "Generations" not E.
@stevenewman1393
Жыл бұрын
🖖😎👍, The Enterprise-E was always was one of my favorites, But if they should show the F instead that would be just fine with me indeed. But it would be nice if they could do a back story on the E to know what truly happened to her indeed 👌...
@oneless5342
Жыл бұрын
So much to speculate on regarding the fates of the Enterprises! I remember when first watching the trailer, once I got over the fact the Enterprise-F was canon, that it looked pretty beat up for a new ship. More like Voyager during year of hell with visible hull weathering. That big space dock party we see in the trailer, I've seen lots of speculation that it's for the launch of the Enterprise-F, which doesn't fit the look of the ship. So what if it's the return of the ship from a deep space mission? Makes an interesting question as to who the CO is, we know it's not Riker or Worf, could be La Forge, another legacy character or a new character (might canonise the STO captain?). But then what about the fate of the ship, it. can't be being decommissioned as it's way to young for that, perhaps it's being refitte to the yorktown configuration? On the Enterprise-E, I do hope she has been decomissioned and is the ship in Spacedock Riker and Picard are referring to with the line"hello beautiful" I'm nervous about a new Enterprise-G already, as the current favoured ship designer is repurposing their 23rd century. designs for the 25th. I mean they look great, but there are anachronisms with the designs that don't fit with the aesthetic established by 24th century in the shows or the 25th by STO and we have a number of STO design. in canon now. It''s all speculation till the season starts in Feb,, I'm excited and looking forward to seeing what they do with the Enterprises. Or perhaps the weathered Enterpris-F image is out of sequence and is from the end of the series rather than occurring at the same point as the celebration.
@radeadcool
Жыл бұрын
40 years too old? Dont tell the Miranda and the Excelsior classes.
@chacaf22
Жыл бұрын
They're holding beer
@Digikidthevoiceofreason
Жыл бұрын
Just because a starship shows up in STO that doesn’t make it canon. It ONLY becomes canon when it actually shows up in a tv show ( like it will in Picard S3 ) or a movie.
@CKN215
Жыл бұрын
So many ships named Enterprise have been destroyed that I hope for the sake of writing creativity that the E has been decommissioned somehow. Further, if more than half of the Enterprises get destroyed (original, C, D, and E) it seems to diminish the name’s significance a lot.
@christiananstes4161
Жыл бұрын
With the tech and abilities starfleet engineers have, it doesn't make a lot of sense to decommission a soverign class only after a few decades when you have the ability to replace virtually any part of the ship at a spacedock. Galactica had nowhere to go for repairs and as such broke her back. I would think that the 1701-E was in a fight so bad that she won but was so badly damaged either the crew had to abandon ship, self destruct or starfleet decided to scrap what was left. Maybe it ties in with why worf is now a pacifist?
@misterlau5246
Жыл бұрын
A pacifist with a klingon weapon on his back, yeeeeeaah. He prefers pacifism, that doesn't mean he became a wussie. I hope so😬😶
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
Жыл бұрын
@@misterlau5246 Probably more along the lines of he seeks to solve issues via other means than by the sword. Negotiations and peacetalks are in themselves a part of warfare. If you can end a war before firing a shot or limiting it to the point a resolution is reached before casualties and destruction of infrastructure mounts. That's as honorable and the most grueling fight. Then there is the fact he might have been in a battle that finally disgusted him enough to seek pacifism as go to tactic before conflict. Which brings up a serious question if true. What kind of battle would sicken or disgust a klingon enough to resort to pacifism as a go to option first?
@misterlau5246
Жыл бұрын
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent it's like there's an urban legend of klingon being bruté, but of course not. There were many things in klingon society just like ours. And cuate, digo, your divine Q 😳 Worf didn't kill just because! The only time I did want him to be a stereotype of klingon bruté was when he went for the assassin of his woman, which I think I was more pissed cause they just killed her! Great character, second time I see her, I felt good for Worf, I was a teen and... Yeah. I think I still support Worf with that action 🖖
@jones20533
Жыл бұрын
That's a very short hull life for one of the most advanced ship. They really should be bring out the next advanced ship every new picard season. The enquiry class, the most advanced and toughest ship, the new stargazer, the most advanced ship now the titan A, so you're telling me that the luna class titan is either destroyed or retired, again a very short Hull life
@austinperry1671
Жыл бұрын
Especially since they had Miranda and excelsior class ships from tos in the dominion war
@MrARock001
Жыл бұрын
They'd have to stretch the G, H and I out for a hundred and fifty years for the J to appear in the right timeline.
@kiraking87
Жыл бұрын
i like the idea it was in the battle in the last episode of star trek prodigy. seeing the defiant was there.
@Robinxen
Жыл бұрын
I think if you pause in one shot, one of the registries does look awfully like a 1701-E on a Sovereign nacelle.
@christopherkraft1327
Жыл бұрын
I am very much looking forward to season 3 of Picard & the Enterprise F. I'm hoping that the Enterprise E received a proper retirement. Since I am an old fart, my favorite Enterprise is & always will be NCC-1701.🖖 Merry Christmas from the Neutral Zone 🎄⛄🤶
@BatKodi
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Enterprise E was destroyed during this weeks Star Trek: Prodigy episode? We did see some Sovereign ships taking a beating! Also, Captain Jack, your videos are awesome! and always fun to watch!
@coasty3072
Жыл бұрын
It is confirmed one of those Sovereigns is the Enterprise, Protostar does a quick flyby and the registry can be seen on the Starboard Nacelle. The living construct was causing that fleet and every ship that comes to assist to attack each other.
@raymondcanessa7208
Жыл бұрын
Is Star Trek: Prodigy cannon?
@christinacody8653
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondcanessa7208 It's my understanding that it is and is placed before the loss of Romulus (Admiral Jellico directly references negotiations to assist the Romulans and said that Picard would never forgive him). It also contextualizes the chaotic rush to build new ships at Utopia Planetoa.
@scottyb68
Жыл бұрын
I thought one was the Sovereign herself. Finally give it her due.
@coasty3072
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondcanessa7208 It is.
@fernandogarajalde4066
Жыл бұрын
Best scenario (based on current military tradition to retire obsolete weapons and vehicles to museums for cadet training) is that 1701-E is now a Starfleet Academy training vessel for upperclassmen while R&D budget would go into development of 1701-F as flagship for the 26th century Starfleet.
@erikberg8098
Жыл бұрын
The “high mileage” comment about ships & their uses makes sense when you study real life history. The Enterprise’s WWII namesake (CV-6) only had a service life of 11 years before decommissioning; it went through more in those 11 years than most modern ships ever see.
@paulrasmussen8953
Жыл бұрын
Nite cv 6 was retured because she was too small to hold jet planes
@Gahmuret
Жыл бұрын
@@paulrasmussen8953 True, but even if that weren't the case, she very likely would have been retired anyway. That ship took an incredible pounding during the war and never was fully repaired, just patched up and sent back out as soon as possible.
@paulrasmussen8953
Жыл бұрын
@Gahmuret maybe maybe not. They kept Franklin around and she was beat uo far more then Enterprise. The. We look at the iowas. They only stop being acceptable warships in the early 2000s.
@bgood8299
Жыл бұрын
That's too bad. The Enterprise E and the Enterprise refit were two of my favorite ships. I was never a fan of the D; it always looked more like a Starfleet cruise ship to me.
@Michellejosph
Жыл бұрын
it looks like the enterprise e was in the fleet that intercepted the protostar in that latest episode of prodigy as there is a quick shot of the ends of the nacelles of one of the sovereign class ships in that fleet and it says ncc-1701-e so it was most likely lost during that battle since they evacuated the ships after they were compromised by the living construct so if that is the case that means the 1701-e was destroyed in 2383 and that would make what matalas said to me about my question reguarding it that the ent-f was in service well before the events of picard season 3 plus he said there will be another time jump between seasons 2 and 3 like there was between picard season 1 and season 2
@GeekFilter
Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise E is in Star Trek Prodigy this week and seeing how that’s going for them & all those other Starfleet vessels…who knows where it will be!
@theequalizer9154
Жыл бұрын
I heard another video, that the Enterprise E will not be appearing on Star Trek Prodigy.
@Pepvg007
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't the E that showed in Prodigy this last episode, it was the uss Sovereign herself that appeared , making its registry canon (NCC-73811) (besides many other sovereigns that are in the battle)
@DJParticle
Жыл бұрын
@@Pepvg007 The E did appear in a blink-and-you-miss-it moment. SciFi-natics showed the freeze frame of the rear starboard nacelle of a Sovereign Class vessel with a very obvious “NCC-1701-E” registry.
@Pepvg007
Жыл бұрын
@@DJParticle ow. alright, i'll check it out. i saw the registry of the Defiant in one shot, which it meant that the Defiant-A is in the battle too (it irks me they don't put the -A in it, just like they didn't in DS9 last episode for budget restrictions and re-using too many shots of the first defiant) but i didn't see the shot of the registry of the E. So both ships are in the battle... interesting. I hope they don't kill the E like this..i like Prodigy, but it would be a cheap end for the E, appearing in a cartoon in the background and be destroyed like that..
@TrekCentral
Жыл бұрын
However the USS Sovereign had the NCC-1701-E on its nacelles, so we'll probably have to wait and see if it was actually in the episode, or it was just a error on the model.
@adamshaw2932
Жыл бұрын
Could the Enterprise F be a re-named & Registered USS Verity? It would give the series a point to look into, that Picard remembers the ship as the Verity, and maybe effects him emotionally. It would also explain the "high mileage" remarks whilst also giving the Enterprise E a longish life span.
@jean-mi1825
Жыл бұрын
Why not... After all, the script for STAR TREK 4 said that Ent-A was, in fact, ANOTHER refitted ship, renamed. Thus explaining why it was considered "old" in STAR TREK 6.
@adamshaw2932
Жыл бұрын
@@jean-mi1825 Exactly! the former USS Yorktown if I remember righty. So it does have precedent. We will just have to wait and see 😁
@davepusey
Жыл бұрын
@@adamshaw2932 And a 2nd precedent being the Sao Paulo renamed to Defiant, after the Breen destroyed the original Defiant in DS9 Season 7.
@krafka
Жыл бұрын
They really can't keep destroying or even changing out Enterprises. The Enterprise J that Archer saw with Daniels was in the 26th century. Enterprise A was launched in 2286 while Enterprise E was commissioned 2372 - so 86 years. They only have 5 letters left to last another 128 years if the Enterprise J were launched right at the start of the 26th century. They stil have Miranda and Excelsior class ships flying around in Picard S2, but a sovereign Enterprise E lasted only 20-ish years?
@BNuts
Жыл бұрын
I guess they don't build 'em like they used to? Maybe the showrunners don't like the designs or really want them around. Maybe we should consider the possibility they intend on replacing all the designs fans are familiar with with their own.
@krafka
Жыл бұрын
@@BNuts The Odyssey Class Enterprise F that they're using won a design contest and is the current Enterprise ship from Star Trek Online, so many fans love it, like the Titan which also won a design contest. Now, the current Titan in Picard on the other hand...
@ebg5062
Жыл бұрын
Ramming the Scimitar probably caused an abnormally large amount of structural damage that shortened the lifespan of the E, shades of the Galactica "breaking her back" in a ram maneuver. I love all things Trek, but if you haven't seen that scene, it's worth you look it up.
@Ziplock9000
Жыл бұрын
Ent E was fully repaired at the end of the movie. Starfleet does not have resource problems like BSG
@HalferLandPerformance
Жыл бұрын
This is all said while the damn Excelsior class is still running around after 120yrs 🤣🤫🤫🤫
@Jesusisking2785
Жыл бұрын
Structurally the E would not have been viable after the Scimitar crash I mean know they showed it being rebuilt but it still would've drastically altered its service life
@markhammond160
Жыл бұрын
I'm sick of seeing the Enterprise take a shit kicking in almost every movie. Would it be too much to ask for 1 movie in which the Enterprise goes out and tears everyone a new arsehole?
@LgiovanniF
Жыл бұрын
Tension.
@surferdude4487
Жыл бұрын
Three reasons to decommission a ship: 1) Costs of repairs and refits are more than building a new ship. 2) The ship is obsolete. 3) The ship is surplus, as in with current needs, there is no role for the ship to fill. Since the Federation doesn't use money, I don't know how they calculate costs. On the other hand, their technology evolves so quickly that it is easy to imagine a ship becoming obsolete. I don't know how a ship could become surplus because there only ever seems to be one active ship in space dock :D
@RGMerkel
Жыл бұрын
I am truly thankful we have channels like this to watch these " star trek " shows so I don't have too. Thank you lol
@RaijinKaze
Жыл бұрын
It was apparently blown up under Worf’s command.
@haroldchase4120
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will see her in a museum. I’m sick and tired of Enterprise being smoked down. Kill Enterprise off in movie etc is also getting very very very old with many of us .
@ChronicEye
Жыл бұрын
I dont think the E was the same after the repair I like to think they tried to fix the frame best they could it wasnt a perfect fix.
@danielmarinucci7708
Жыл бұрын
According to Star trek prodigy, there was some sort of problem with with a advanced computer. And when the other ships arrived including the enterprise-e, they all began attacking each other. Enterprise e got the beating of a lifetime. The Borg, the battle with the scimitar, and now the computer, 1701-E more than likely didn't have anything left to give. she's probably parked somewhere being investigated to find out what happened.
@AustinFan4Life
Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise E was decommissioned after Picard became an Admiral. Also the original Enterprise was not active for 40 years. Dialogue in Star Trek III: TSFS said the Enterprise was almost 20 years old. That dialogue fits, because the Enterprise had 3 five year missions (1 under Pike, 2 under Kirk, the second one taking place after TOS), after that 2nd 5 year mission, the Enterprise was refitted in an 18 month process, during which time Kirk became an Admiral. Star Trek: TMP, Star Trek II: WoK & Star Trek III: TSFS, all occured within a 3 year period, making the Enterprise indeed 20 years old at the time of it's destruction.
@annieworroll4373
Жыл бұрын
The amount of tough fights Enterprise E went through... The Borg, a few encounters with the Dominion, the Scimitar, any number of random stuff when she was putting out random fires while the bulk of the fleet was on the front lines of the Dominion War, the Living Construct incident when the Protostar returned... That ship has taken a lot of damage, and as you point out, there's only so much a ship can take before repair is somewhere between unreasonable and impossible.
@MrLawsim
Жыл бұрын
The most simplistic explanation should have been is Enterprise E was never the same after the battle with the Scimitar. Even despite the Refit, "E" was closer to decommission.
@tjeerdtrekkie1030
Жыл бұрын
Seeing the sovereighn class at all sounds good to me. I love the class's design very much. Seeing it with modern vfx and visuals should be great!
@Wolf_Dominic
Жыл бұрын
The idea that something can be repaired only so many times before it can’t be repaired anymore is something that never really occurred to me.
@richardjohnson9543
Жыл бұрын
Those ships were designed to last for about a century but Enterprises tend to end up in potentially threatening situations more often than most Starfleet vessels so they rarely reach the natural end of their service life
@davequinlan3020
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of freeze frame images on Star Trek Prodigy showing the E was involved in the Starfleet Armada scene. If these images are true and not a editing Mistake....perhaps the E's fate will be sealed on Prodigy Season Finale. My working theory is the Enterprise-E along with the Titan were destroyed in the attack of Utopia Planitia in 2384-2385. This would explain the Enterprise-F and the Titan-A. Perhaps the ships were there for refits and upgrades when the Sinth attack happened??
@CONSOLETRUTH2
Жыл бұрын
The F wouldn't be named as such if the E was still in service SO either the E was retired OR it was destroyed. Simple as that.
@WardenWolf
Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise-E's career was likely cut short by its collision with the Scimitar. While it was repaired afterwards, it likely suffered permanent structural damage that limited the spaceframe's lifespan.
@samcarpenter_
Жыл бұрын
I'm okay with them retiring the E but Matalas' comment about the F already being pretty old has me baffled. Surely it'd be pretty damn new.
@castieldiallo2945
Жыл бұрын
As a cop out they probably had the ship destroyed. If it were down to me, I would let a few more decades pass before launching another Enterprise. We are already at J. Assuming you count the Discovery ship. Smh.
@90lancaster
Жыл бұрын
Prodigy understands the Protostar is a character in the show, the individual serving up Star Trek Picard however do not have the same understanding of ships named Enterprise.
@peterq1978
Жыл бұрын
wonderful to see the 1701-E in the new Prodigy ep, unsure if its the Ent, could be a mistake.
@coasty3072
Жыл бұрын
Confirmed by the writers, it’s the Enterprise.
@Pepvg007
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't, it was the uss sovereign.
@TonySquared09
Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise-E would have been decommissioned for another ship to take it's name. It doesn't mean the ship has been destroyed or anything, it could be assigned as a training vessel or maybe it was put in an Museum along with Voyager. The Enterprise-A was decommissioned and years later the Enterprise-B left space dock. It would be nice to not have another destroyed Enterprise. We lost the original, The C and D. The Enterprise-E deserves a nice undramatic send off.
@timbert4672
Жыл бұрын
The decommissioning theory sounds the most probable. Which begs the question, what happens to decommissioned ships? If it is wrecked like the Enterprise D was then it makes sense to scrap and recycle it, but I don't think Starfleet would do this with a ship which is simply high on operational hours/miles but still it good working order. In which case, the Enterprise E could still be operational in the Picard universe but perhaps restricted to escort, patrol, or guard duties. Or possibly even cruise roles for ambassadors/VIP's if it is a nice one, we have seen this before with the navies on Earth, old ships with long histories make great tourist attractions. Future Admiral Janeway hinted at this when she said, "Voyager IS a museum" in Endgame.
@MrVaderj
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see the F in action. Also, hoping that the E retired and wasn’t destroyed. Give it’s due like the A. Destroying the F is just dumb writing if you ask me. Why bother bringing it on just to destroy it right away.
@glenwaldrop8166
Жыл бұрын
I can understand Brent Spiner not wanting to play Data forever but they need to restore Data's backup somewhere. He's an amazing character and deserves to be brought back.
@paulmccloud9395
Жыл бұрын
I think that shot of the Enterprise-F will be the final shot of the series, as one of the other cast, perhaps Worf, Riker or even a resurrected Data is the new captain of the Enterprise and this will then lead to a future new series.
@fiestameisterse5868
Жыл бұрын
We know the Enterprise E was in service as of 2385 or a little before bc Picard left that ship to take command of the taskforce to help the romulans. My theory is the Enterprise E stayed in service at least to 2390s then was decommissioned to coincide with the Odyssey class starships coming into service
@lazurusredd8682
Жыл бұрын
The Incident on Kriliar Prime in 2386. The Enterprise suffered severe structural hull damage which led to it being decommissioned
@jameslewis2635
Жыл бұрын
Considering the state that the Enterprise E was in by the end of Star Trek: Nemisis, I would not doubt that there could be some large scale structural damage to the ships frame with the ramming maneuver. Add to that the damage caused by weapons fire and the associated stress to electrical systems throughout the ship and it would be easy to justify (as a writer) that the ship would be found to be beyond repair or past the point where repair makes any sense next to building a new vessel. Otherwise some damage could have been missed in the initial repairs leading to a reduction in ship capabilities such as limiting the warp factor the ship is capable of or the stresses it is capable of enduring. Either way, a case could then be made for the ship to be given an early retirement. In the real world after World War 2 there were various ships that had become essentially 'worn out' by the vigors of war and sent for scrapping. Considering that some of these vessels were less than a decade old at the time, it is not beyond belief that a starship could meet a similar fate.
@paulrasmussen8953
Жыл бұрын
Except we see her rebuilt sections at tge end and being in space structure stress isn't as bad
@reaperofdoom7583
Жыл бұрын
Every Enterprise should have at least 1 refit. And honestly the Sovereign class was a state of the art ship during the movies. And tbh there's not THAT much time between the 4 movies. Also in Generations the E was technically a refit with the new bridge and a few other things.
@werideatdusk
Жыл бұрын
Maybe there was a design flaw and they had to retire the sovereigns early... or starfleet went into a more peaceful mission again and had less need for tactical ships
@misterlau5246
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the... ... Star Trek Movie #1 or Enterprise A😔 🤔 😬 Don't point at me with that phas.. 🤔 😬 It's a disruptor, aw come on! 🥺
@RGMerkel
Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching this stuff after Enterprise. Just not the same, but this new trek is not made for us older trek lovers. It's made for the new generation.
@misterlau5246
Жыл бұрын
@@RGMerkel try strange new worlds, look at Pike. Have hope 🖖 Enterprise was good IMHO, never understood why some people said it was awful. The only thing I don't like is that Sam Beckett didn't quantum leap at the end 😡🤓🖖
@HammerJammer81
Жыл бұрын
I hope the F gets blown to bits, ever since it was released Ive hated it. Yes, lets make the neck of the ship a weakspot yet again with its giant void space. The E was the pinnacle of sleek design, the F steps backwards.
@steffenronsch8881
Жыл бұрын
Absolutly the F doesn't deserve the name enterprise
@tonebonebgky2
Жыл бұрын
I definitely don't believe that the Enterprise E is worn out and ready for the bone yard because the excelsior class is in TNG and even at least a single constitution refit, the Enterprise E could've easily been renamed and reassigned much more moderate duties, there was also mentioned an old ship from over 80 years ago in the DS9 episode "valiant" that hasn't left the Terran system in many years doing some kind of cadet ferrying duties around the system as needed and for minor training cruises, you can't tell the Enterprise E a sovereign class vessel isn't capable of ferrying around some cadets despite its aging platform if not a decent b-line or c-line ship and other sovereign class vessels not beat to death would absolutely be great for science and other missions that's generally not on the bleeding edge of newly unexplored space and is unlikely to be in combat situations particularly with new and modern enemy vessels, by the time of Picard I see the last of the excelsior classes finally retired or moved to the sol system for ferrying duties,the last of the Galaxy class completed and doing duties in the core of the federation when large number of people need to be transported and only needs a minimal amount of protection if any, the sovereign class a little farther out doing minor exploration of unexplained mysteries inside of the federation, and the Enterprise F on the bleeding edges just beyond explored space and in situations that are potentially battling new and modern enemies on the edges of their borders (hence the term show the flag).
@chrisbrewer5852
Жыл бұрын
You need to update this it was in command by Captain warf I'm going to say it was destroyed during the encounter with the protostar because he said it wasn't his fault the enterprise-e sustained fatal damage during the encounter with the protostar
@Clever-Dave
Жыл бұрын
To quote Captain Picard, "Plenty of letters left in the alphabet."
@slysi81
Жыл бұрын
Are people forgetting season 1 of Picard. The Enterprise F can't be the flag ship, that piece of 💩 copy & past ship (Zheng He) is Star Fleets newest flag ship which annoyed me in so many ways but if that's the flag ship the Enterprise F can't be
@metroplex7986
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to believe the Enterprise-E is still functional and active. Removed from the front and main lines of Starfleet. But at a Starbase with all weapons removed and used to train new cadets. Similar to the original Enterprise under the command of Spock in Star Trek 2.
@timbenjaminsr8946
Жыл бұрын
Another reason NCC-1701E was decommissioned and NCC-1701F was going being the flagship of the federation they wanted the newest, baddest ship flying the Federation colors
@chrism5770
Жыл бұрын
I don’t like how the next gen enterprises are replaced so quickly. To me the flagship always was able to stand up against all odds again and again. Hence the long service life. More likely the E E should just be decommissioned and put in the museum as the newer ships have the slipstream drive. At this stage the return of voyager has pushed the federation’s technology toward a lot faster then it should have.
@TrentonBennett
Жыл бұрын
I really hope that the Enterprise-E was decommissioned and not just destroyed like previous Enterprises. I do hope too that the Enterprise-F gets some decent screen time. I do like that design, especially the refit. The only thing I don't like the Enterprise-F is the space between the neck(s). I definitely can't wait for Picard Season 3. It is a shame this is going to be the last season.
@76TomD
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Verity was rechristened Enterprise - F much like the Enterprise - A was a rechristened vessel. This could explain the comment that the 'F' was actually older than you''d think.
@messengerguardiansparanorm8606
Жыл бұрын
5:45, let's be specific, the Galactica broke its back on its final jump, not during its final battle. This specific point is made in that final episode.
@TrekCentral
Жыл бұрын
Sadly this wasn't a video about BSG, so there wasn't a need to go into the specifics for the reference. - Jack
@GregPrice-ep2dk
Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise-E may have been one of the ships destroyed in the Prodigy season finale.
@BNuts
Жыл бұрын
Since the showrunners seem to so enjoy tearing down the old to replace them with whatever they envision, I fully expect any references to previous _Enterprises_ to be dreams, tricks by enemies, cameos, or holodeck programs. I would caution fans to be prepared to see any prior designs destroyed soon after they appear, and would be surprised to see them last two episodes before they're replaced by a current _STP_ / _DISCO_ design. You know, like they're pushing to replace the old colonialist Starfleet designs with things more in line with what Michael Burnham represents. That sort of thing. See also the future designs used in the later seasons of _DISCO_ , including that of _Voyager-J_ and the Kirk-class, as well as the Neo Constitution-II-class, which replaces the Luna-class _Titan_ apparently. How do I think we'll see Galaxy- , Sovereign- , and even Odyssey-class ships destroyed? Just look at _Lesser Decks_, which shows a Sovereign getting handily defeated by a set of Texas-class prototypes, so it can be rescued by _Cerritos_ . That is how. Even the mixed Starfleet fleet in the last season of _STP_ wasn't on-screen for very long, and it was also quickly taken over by the Borg. So I don't expect any old designs to stay for long, before being replaced by new designs, if ships are shown at all. Because one thing that _STP_ makes clear over its runtime is that it does not seem to like it when its stories take place in space, preferring to be solidly on the ground, regardless of which planet they are on. So yeah, I don't expect any appearance by any _Enterprise_ to last longer than that of the new _Stargazer_ . Which I wonder how much they'll have appear considering the _Titan-A_ was also teased.
@tortenschachtel9498
Жыл бұрын
I am reasonably certain Galactica broke her back during the final jump, because they didn't retract the landing pods, not during the battle preceding it.
@TrekCentral
Жыл бұрын
I mean Season 4 basically showed us how badly broken the whole ship was. - Jack
@acmenipponair
Жыл бұрын
the original ncc 1701 was only refitted 25 years after her commissioning, because starfleet in the 23rd century didn't had another modern design yet. the excelsior project took until 2385 to push out the first of the class and they didn't even had other ships of that class yet to be renamed as Enterprise but had to rename a younger constitution class ship to enterprise that then only served for 8 more years until the excelsior class ncc 1701 b was ready. and when that ship was lost or retired, it took until the 2330s to get the ambassador c and after its destruction it took 20 years before the galaxy class ship was ready. the e was the second sovereign class ship built and it's quite logical that they in the 24th century don't refit ships anymore, but built new classes all the time, as the borg and dominion have shown that you have to improve more to stay ahead as starfleet, while the klingons and romulans were more tradiotional valued and sticked to their designs for centuries.
@AzraelThanatos
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the E is going to get destroyed in Prodigy considering the Sovereigns there have both the USS Sovereign and the USS Enterprise registry (The Tail has the Enterprise E, and the Sovereign on the saucer). There's also the issue with the Enterprise J being the next known ship of the Enterprise lineage there some time later in the timeline. Which some have theorized in the STO timeline, the registry numbers would eventually be reset due to, potentially, the transition from the Federation (And KDF and other groups) into the Alliance taking over for the government
@keirfarnum6811
Жыл бұрын
“That was not my fault.” -Worf
@dannylesbile8592
Жыл бұрын
The federation usually uses it's most modern ship as it's flag ship they might have renamed the E to make room for the F
@Hando316
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the next Star Trek show have the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-F and Captain Shon.
@ForbinsColossus
Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention that the Enterprise was in this weeks prodigy. You can read the registry on the hull
@TrekCentral
Жыл бұрын
This video was shot ahead of time due to the holiday season :) - Jack
@Thermool
Жыл бұрын
I’ll have to take a look again, but I remember the USS Sovereign getting a close up and lots of Sovereign Classes
@MikePhantom
Жыл бұрын
its easy to say that starfleet simply learned more then just building better war capable ships, that being not having ships in commission for one hundred years like the excelsior or miranda class. that was after all ONE major reason why despite relatively new tech they got torn apart by the borg and dominion. so rather risking having to old ship they put a life shelf time on ships to have new ones in active duty rather old ones
@ultramaximusreviews
Жыл бұрын
We will see the Enterprise F in season 3 and I think the D either in time travel or a holodeck trip
@Incogneato
Жыл бұрын
They still could retcon Data back into existence, and I'm sure everyone would be happy about it because it was the biggest mistake Paramount has EVER made.
@simjo59
Жыл бұрын
This series has me totally confused. The first year was great, with established characters, then suddenly it's all different; same actors in the same characters but all doing uncharacteristic stuff. I'll give year three a look but am not hopeful. It's reminiscent of watching 'Lost In Space' devolve from straight-out science fiction to a silly romp.
@gwenever7286
Жыл бұрын
Enterprise E getting destroyed in Star Trek prodigy where it was seen a couple of days ago, would fit in cannon
@NA-en7kz
Жыл бұрын
Decommissioning of a ship class designed to be in service for 100 or more years, see the Constitution Class 2245-2367+, the Excelsior Class 2280-2380+, and the Galaxy class is also stated as having a service life of 100 or more years. It is more likely she was destroyed. Or it is that the new manufacturing might of the Federation means that they see no reason to update even moderately newer vessels as they are now capable of constructing thousands of new ships every year. But ultimately, in my mind, it is just further proof that the current writers don't have a clue about Star Trek and are trying for quick money, Hopefully, the show is able to stay around long enough to correct this misstep and create long-lasting, multi-generation, impact pieces like it's predecessors did before it.
@traviswatts9082
Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why the Federation would name any ship Enterprise anymore, it just guarantees an extremely short life span. Pretty soon they’ll run out of letters.
@bradkrekelberg8624
Жыл бұрын
Short service length for flagships, huh? And then the opposite is true for the rest of the fleet, apparently, considering the bulk of the fleet seen in TNG and DS9 are Excelsiors and Mirandas. WTF
@Arbyfig
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice for old tired flagships to be able to be retired and decommissioned as a museum, I think only the NX enterprise and the A got to be decommissioned, the rest either blew up or went missing. I think for the F, its alright that the odyssey is a slightly older design, I mean I think it had 2 prototypes with different propulsions if I recall correctly, and besides it could be the block 2 odyssey, like the Enterprise B was also an upgraded excelsior class
@ryanjackson1143
Жыл бұрын
"This ship and her history will fall under the care of another crew, to them and their posterity we will commit our future"- James T. Kirk
@bermanmo6237
Жыл бұрын
Well in real life some of the older Flight I Arleigh Burke class destroyers that were commissioned in the late 1990s are still around. Yes, they are 32 year old ships that were modified and still around. There are still some 40 to 50 year old Ticonderoga class cruisers that are still around. They are all to be eventually going to be replaced by the new DDG(x) destroyers. However, due to budget constraints, Congress decided to allocate money to keep the 40 to 50 year old Ticonderoga class cruisers due to the fact that they can't build the newer ships fast enough to replace. So, they don't want the fleet to decline too much. Of course, there is only so much money and resources to allocate to build more ships. FYI. Under the current defense budget, there is only enough money to buy 2 new Arlieigh Burke class destroyers. So, the United States Navy would have to rely on the modification of existing Burke class and Ticonderoga class as its main non carrier surface ships. I imagine it is probably the same case with the fictional Starfleet especially with the destruction of the Mars Utopia Shipyard where 60% of their ships are built. Thus, it is not realistic you have a fleet of entirely new ships every year. If the season finale of Prodigy is any indication of what a large starfleet working fleet would look like, you would still have older Akira, Centaur, Defiant, and Sovereign ship around. Yes, I do know in Picard Season 2, they did have some new classes of ships, but the large majority of the fleet were older ships just like the US Navy can only afford a few of the latest Flight 3 Arleigh Burke class destroyers each year, the rest of the fleet are older modified Flight 1 and 2 versions plus some of the older Ticonderoga class.
@MinasTsambanis
Жыл бұрын
The two final episodes of Prodigy might have given us an answer. One of the ships that were infected by the Living Construct was the E (A Sov Class ship with the Enterprise's registry seen on the nacelles) and later one of the severely damaged ships seen after the Protostar departed to blow it up safely was the E.
@neilwhit220
Жыл бұрын
Star trek prodigy had the enterprise e in it's final episode. You had to watch but the identification markings were there. She's likely done after that one.
@chbu7081
Жыл бұрын
We do know one thing, that there will be only 5 Enetrprises between season 3 of Star Trek Picard and the 26th century.
@weskirkland5850
Жыл бұрын
E wouldnt have been decomissioned because of damage from the scimitar crash later on or they wouldnt have turned it loose after the wreck.
@evos469
Жыл бұрын
It was also retired because of the slipstream drive on the odyssey class
@StarfleetSohail
Жыл бұрын
Sad about the E but we can see her another time!
@DarthAzabrush
Жыл бұрын
EVERYONE in Star Trek can destroy a planet if they feel like it. Starfleet even has a General Order giving Captains the authority to do so if they determine it necessary.
@TheHappyPotatoe
Жыл бұрын
No because the enterprise F has already been shown to be commissioned in this time period they don't have two ships with the name enterprise in service at the same time E was decommissioned before F came into service
@quemarthefox
Жыл бұрын
Enterprise E do take a beting in the bacgond of prodigy in the episode supernova
@TheMrPeteChannel
Жыл бұрын
Why retire when you got 120 year old Mirandas still going? Heck there still Sovereigns going circa 2400
@javiergruneiro1575
Жыл бұрын
The USS Excelsior is still on active duty in the 25th century . . . It was commissioned in the 23th century. . . yet you are arguing how old Enterprise E would be and what damage she took? The Excelsior went through a damn shock wave in Star Trek VI that sent Sulu flying like a ninja
@gups4963
Жыл бұрын
Honestly that Warf got such a reprimand really frustrated me. Sisko sent a married couple on that mission, the sheer stupidity of that is on him. In reality the writers blew it
@jamesmarshall1979
Жыл бұрын
Worf not warf
@ETRTriad
Жыл бұрын
It's a movie prop, I'm not surprised they never gave us it.
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