Seems like Bull is the one who needs personal growth not Baker.
@jonathannoll7071
Ай бұрын
The Bull needs less growth
@ctownaqib
Ай бұрын
He gets asked about the injury. Its not like he's going around having press conferences about it.
@joshuachirila9026
Ай бұрын
So Baker says he should’ve handled things better in Cleveland and he’s getting roasted by Cleveland media. 😂😂😂
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Yup baker sounds mature and bull and Jason sound like bafoons lol. 😂
@jaybake
Ай бұрын
“Cleveland media” is generous
@hankfraley1264
Ай бұрын
Bull is a joke man
@dannycoxwest
Ай бұрын
Comprehension is hard in this group of guys lol holy hell
@alreed76
Ай бұрын
Still, after all these years.. Baker still livin rent free in cow eeeerrr i mean bulls head
@stephenboyd85
Ай бұрын
There was nothing wrong with what Baker said he’s shown growth and maturity and these guys can’t stand it… bringing up one game against KC because he didn’t turn into Tom Brady is ridiculous lol… clearly they wanted him to fail when he was here and never liked it I’m so happy he’s killing it in Tampa hopefully he’ll continue to prove these guys wrong
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Facts baker is going to probowls and winning g playoff games. Looks like he won this war.
@smokeythebear9027
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045bro we win a Super Bowl before baker guaranteed and bull and Jason aren’t wrong baker all talk and no action hop off his jock strap
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@smokeythebear9027 bakers lead deshaun in every passing stat, playoff wins, and probowls since the trade. Just accept reality.
@chrisharwell2355
Ай бұрын
Baker > Watson
@okcrum
Ай бұрын
Y'all might as well put Baker in the Ring of Honor now, 'cause he's gonna live rent free in UCSS' small minds forever. At least have him come sign the board. 🤣
@motives88
Ай бұрын
BAKER brought this up
@okcrum
Ай бұрын
@@motives88 Child, please.
@bmkso216
Ай бұрын
Baker fan and brown fan forever
@siCCSwAmPsmEss
Ай бұрын
Bull big mad says he wants Baker to fail because he's a bengals fan, and my man's smoked their sorry asses everytime they faced the brahns 😂😂😂 come on Bull
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
😂 true story baker was 6-2 vs cincy. Bull didn't like that.
@siCCSwAmPsmEss
Ай бұрын
@anthonypa8045 I thought it was 7-1 but regardless Bull big mad coaches got stared down after darts or the golden child going toe to toe with Bake and coming up short getting clowned on prime time games his take is horse shit he's mad at a kid at his age
@mattkelly2364
Ай бұрын
This takes are why I stopped watching this shit
@216media25
Ай бұрын
I’m a browns fan 100% but these guys are haters. Baker or DW4 right now at this moment? Give me Baker facts!!!
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
For real, easy choice. Baker just won another playoff game and had a monster season. Probowl. No debate here.
@tyeash7822
Ай бұрын
You're committing to be average at beest.
@216media25
Ай бұрын
@@tyeash7822 what has DW gave us? Below average?
@Dub257
Ай бұрын
@@216media25What bakers excuse for it? Watson was suspended and hurt
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@tyeash7822 if baker is average than watson has been bad. The numbers don't lie.
@WSAMP24
Ай бұрын
Hey Jason, Baker has played way better than Watson since the move. Even his worst year in Cleveland most of bakers numbers were better than what Deshaun has done over the last 2 years.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
If bakerwas on last years team he definitely wins cleveland another playoff game. Maybe even a superbowl. Last year baker was probowl mvp and won another playoff game with a much worse Tampa Bay team. He threw 6 tds in the playoffs alone. Baker has lead deshaun in passer rating, completion percentage, qbr, pff grade, yards per game, td per game, td to turnover ratio. Basically every passing stat there is, baker has led watson since the trade. Even in bakers worst statistical year in cleveland his stats are still better than watsons 2 year in cleveland. Big mistake by browns to trade baker away and bring In a worse qb who has yet to win the browns another playoff game. Baker is higher on every single qb rankings list that has come out and is even a higher overall in madden. I can't think of one thing deshaun has done better than baker since end of 2020.
@danield8337
Ай бұрын
Lmao yall will be talking about this in 2060
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@danield8337 I ain't the one who made a video and put it on the internet. But yea as long as he keeps playing better than deshaun, keeps making probowls, and baker keeps winning playoff games. The media will have to keep talking about him. If deshaun ever wins a playoff game or 2 in cleveland it might stop all the talk.
@thomasmcnamara3720
Ай бұрын
you weren't beating the Texans you got steamrolled your organization is a league joke
@danield8337
Ай бұрын
Lmao when Baker injured his NON THROWING shoulder and plays like garbage it’s an excuse. When Deshaun injured his THROWING shoulder and gets a high ankle sprain all he does is beat the AFC 1 seed on the road. We all know who’s better. Baker had a good season in the JV NFC South. He couldn’t survive here especially now. Go root for Tampa Baker Bro 😂
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@danield8337 lmao yea we so know who's better its the qb who 2 playoff game and made a probowl in the last 4 years. That's baker mayfield. Baker beat the ravens multiple times.. winning a regular season game ain't nothing. Baker is busy winning multiple playoff games boy, something deshaun has not done in his entire career. Lmao deshauns a 74 overall in madden this year... what a scrub, nobody thinks hes good anymore
@timothyhull5794
Ай бұрын
Give me Baker and my 3 first round picks and I’ll live with it! The people on this show are always making excuses for Watson
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
I agree with baker we get a better qb, 6 more draft picks and more money for free agents
@reggiesanders2162
Ай бұрын
Watson is head and shoulders a better talent than Mayfield.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@reggiesanders2162 maybe 5 years ago, but the stats say baker is head and shoulders above watson over the last 3 years. Numbers dont lie.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@reggiesanders2162 maybe 5 years ago, but the stats and playoff wins say baker is head and shoulders above deshaun the last 3 years
@jasonshepherd9076
Ай бұрын
How yall mad that he answered a question?
@ronhemby7656
Ай бұрын
These are the same guys who make constant excuses for Watson
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Right I've heard watson bring up his injuries over and over again on his podcast. At least baker has played at a probowl level over the last 4 years.
@jermainebelcher6023
Ай бұрын
Some of these guys take is why people hate Cleveland lol.
@Merkathomas
Ай бұрын
He took a 8-9 Tampa team and lead them to 9-8 🤷🏾♂️..with 2 HOF wr's..shout out to him though!
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Dam Godwin is a hall of famer? He's made 1 probowl in 7 years lol. But I agree, shout out to baker on a probowl and another playoff win. Thanks for winning cleveland 1 too.
@draimonshepherd1791
Ай бұрын
@anthonypa8045 your boy admitted to what I said a year a go 😂😂😂😂
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@draimonshepherd1791 that he should've got surgery instead of trying to tough it out for the city? Yea it's true. Playing hurt effected his play. But it worked out for him now. Another playoff win and probowl, sucks for us cleveland fans though. Now we got a bad qb here.
@Merkathomas
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 Blake bortles had a playoff run..Jacksonville don't miss him
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@Merkathomas Blake bortles was not the probowl mvp of this most recent season. But I'd take bortles over watson right now. Deshaun is broken, washed, finished.
@TheeCleve
Ай бұрын
FFS can we talk about something else ?! How about when the dust finally settles 5 years after the Watson trade it’ll be the worst trade in NFL History aside from Ditka trading for Ricky Williams - wtf guys - Baker gets asked a question ? And yall toast him for it - typical … and then you have people saying that Watson just needs to be “average” well that’s what we needed. We should’ve kept Mayfield in the first place! (AND OUR DRAFT PICKS) Y’all couldn’t leave him alone when he was here and criticized him constantly and now he’s been gone for what two seasons He still played three times as many games as Watson since the trade
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Great points don't forget that baker has clearly outplayed deshaun too since the trade.
@TheeCleve
12 күн бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 How about the TNF game against the Raiders when he was with the Rams! No Cooper Kupp was on the team less than 48 hours … greatest reg season comeback in NFL history if you ask me. He threw dimes to win that game. I got nothing but big love for Baker. I used to uber him and his wife here in CLE… i miss them. They are good people as well!
@anthonypa8045
12 күн бұрын
@@TheeCleve that was a great comeback by him. Only was in town for a couple days. Crazy!
@classictood2049
Ай бұрын
You gotta respect Baker for moving the chains on the “Super Bowl Chase”. This team knew nothing but failure and despair before Baker, undeniable. Baker was not Andrew and Kevin’s draft pick, Kevs scheme didn’t fit Baker
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Facts, I agree 100% browns were a laughing stock before baker arrived. And we ain't won a playoff game since deshaun got here.
@antoniocurlee1181
Ай бұрын
Jason sound stupid. Get the surgery and we could have got something for baker on a trade. He just lead the Browns to the second round of the playoffs.By him playing we had to pay to give him away when the Browns could of got a second rd or third rd pick for him we ended up getting nothing.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Right, the season before he got hurt he had just beat the steelers in the playoffs and was top 10 in alot of passing stats. Pretty much identical to his 2023 season. Great stats and a playoff win.
@georgeblackwell4670
Ай бұрын
Why is this even a topic? This man been on like 4 teams since then! Let it go!!
@renaissanceman3903
Ай бұрын
Because dude was on shit teams with shit coaches all his time in the nfl. Stefanski is mediocre and shouldn't have won the coach of the year last year.
@dustinbeat4058
Ай бұрын
Yet he's playing better than the 230 million bum they replaced him with
@123Aballer
Ай бұрын
@@renaissanceman3903u sound dumb as hell. 4 different quarterbacks the most injured starting roster in the league and he still manages to get us 11 wins. Cope bro seriously
@renaissanceman3903
Ай бұрын
@@123Aballer swartz defense won us games
@123Aballer
Ай бұрын
@@renaissanceman3903 and he won assistant head coach of the year. Defense was the biggest contribution last year 100% but that’s only one side of the ball. We had to put points on the board still. You just don’t want to give KS any credit.
@damionaqeel
Ай бұрын
Baker looked better than Flacco in the playoffs
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
True, flacco played better than watson, but baker played better than both. The stats don't lie... plus baker won a playoff game, the browns have not since mayfield left.
@damionaqeel
Ай бұрын
@anthonypa8045 shhhh, don't speak the truth too loud. Some Browns fans will disown you
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@damionaqeel lol true browns fan know football and they know it's true. They keep stats for a reason. And all of bakers numbers are better than deshauns since the trade.
@freshcoastfreak7408
Ай бұрын
You’re right the Browns shouldn’t have gone with Flacco long term and kept Baker. Idk why they even ever declared Flacco the starter! /s
@hasawho
Ай бұрын
Well he threw back to back pick sixes in their one game so...I agree
@draimonshepherd1791
Ай бұрын
He matured enough to admit it, finally
@John-oh6vr
Ай бұрын
If you don't like something you bash it. That's what this shows all about. And I'm a Browns fan
@someperson8151
Ай бұрын
Didn't help that Nick Chubb fumbled the ball vs KC when they had a two score lead.
@JoeNotit
Ай бұрын
Yeah blame Chubb instead of the bum who couldn't get a first down his last 2 possessions.. 🤡
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Not just chubb fumble, but the defense couldn't stop Chad henne on a 4th and long in 4th qtr
@motives88
Ай бұрын
yall will blame god himself for baker's crap play
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@motives88 best qb play in cleveland the last 30 years came from baker. Since deshauns been here his stats are terrible and he ain't won cleveland no playoff games. Everyone who knows football would take baker over watson right now.
@JoeNotit
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 everyone who knows football knows baker isn't good enough to win a superbowl. Watson hasn't been but his ceiling is a top 5 qb. We've already seen it.
@jasonshepherd9076
Ай бұрын
I bet they wish they still had baker
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Yes we do.
@photonfartsqueeze6694
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045No, we don’t.
@jonzellbyrd1026
25 күн бұрын
No Thanks!!
@justjohnny15
Ай бұрын
I pity those who enjoy this level of self loathing
@theresonly1kidd29
Ай бұрын
Bull expects personal growth from everyone but himself
@Jay-iknowhutimtalkinbout
Ай бұрын
I think if Watson has a decent year we can get out from under that contract and maybe we can land someone more reliable
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
That would be amazing to be able to move on from watson. But no one wants him right now and I don't see him ever playing well again. It's been 4 or 5 years since he looked good
@GunMetalColtt
Ай бұрын
Maybe you guys should worry about your current QB. Bakers been gone for 2 years.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
For real bakers moved on and won playoff games and pro bowls, why hasn't watson done this yet since trade?
@brainspin7518
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 Dude, I'm grateful for what Baker did for our franchise while he was a Brown. BUT, seriously, get some therapy. It's 2024 now.
@sillylovesongs581
Ай бұрын
Browns fans still down bad for Baker😭 he’s moved on, you guys should too
@trippeddownthestairs8238
Ай бұрын
Baker Mayfield was horrendous in 2019 too! Remember the Freddie Kitchens year? Baker Mayfield was not only terrible but he was also about 30 pounds overweight.
@dannycoxwest
Ай бұрын
The organization told him to gain the weight. Coaching and organization matters in the NFL, you can’t blame everything on the QB that’s 23 years old.
@tomshed6302
Ай бұрын
Hey Adam the bull, NEWS FLASH this is U.C.S.S we don't give a dam what you have to say about the Bengals!! Go join the locked on Bengals poscast. GO BROWNS!!
@YoungMan9427
Ай бұрын
I agree with Cleveland’s decision to move on from Mayfield, I agree with them deciding to upgrade with Watson, I simply don’t agree with the price they paid to get him here given Watson’s lack of playoff success.
@jasoncampbell5518
Ай бұрын
In the context of his carrer . Yes he shoukd had the surgery . Baker did not mess up ! The entire organization messed up ! They should have shut him down . They let Paul Depodesta screw everyone playing mineyball. No defence with Baker or Brissett ! Everyone says Watson does not need to be a super star just good enough ! Well Baker was good enough ! And after waiting 230 million 3#1's 2 3r's and a 4 we have had two years of shit QB play !
@garydodd441
Күн бұрын
Bull hates Baker because he OWNED Burrow while in Cleveland.
@rrh4056
Ай бұрын
4 different coaches 4 different offences in 3 years this is like watching MSNBC talk about Trump
@jeffcaves8740
Ай бұрын
Great analogy ! Plus ,why are they even talking about this !? They have MDS as badly as MSNBC has TDS ! Get over Baker and talk about problems that are current and not from years ago.
@terrybrocklehurst5907
22 күн бұрын
Looks like Jason and Bull don't like being shown for fools. "I Wanna Be Around" when Baker gets to the SB before DW and the Browns.
@JBearTrades
Ай бұрын
Jason nailed that
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Jason sounded like some guy who don't understand football. Baker has played much better than the bum we replaced him with. Period.
@JBearTrades
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 DW hasn’t been what we needed you’re 100% correct but to pretend like Baker is not a loser is crazy
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@JBearTrades baker has won 2 playoff games with 2 different teams, one this year, he just won probowl mvp, and EARNED a 115 million dollar deal. Sounds like a winner to me.
@JBearTrades
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won a superbowl….Jimmy G and Rex Grossmen have been to Super Bowls….. are they winners?
@ShockerRadio-wi6ze
Ай бұрын
AB: try 20 years, not 30, my round dude
@Danny7185
Ай бұрын
It’s amazing how many Baker bros there are. They hit it spot on he’s a competent qb but he’s not the elite qb that is going to win you a Super Bowl, especially in the murderers row of QBs in the AFC.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
True baker I not top 5, but he's been a heck of a lot better than deshaun since the trade. By all stats and metrics. Plus baker is winning games in the post season. Something else deshaun hasn't done for cleveland.
@courtlandbrown2827
15 күн бұрын
I’m not a baker Mayfield fan, but you know what bull is full of bull you’re so jealous of another man that you just push bad and misery against another grown man everybody’s got issues but dude, you got serious issues, my man
@larryramey915
Ай бұрын
The head coach, for some bizarre reason, kept him in the starting lineup whe
@titansrule72
Ай бұрын
why after the fact do guys like baker and kyrie and lebron admit they effed up? why is it initially always the media and fans and the teams' fault why they left?
@okcrum
Ай бұрын
You'll learn, someday. Maybe.
@titansrule72
Ай бұрын
@@okcrum as a fan to hear they regret their mistakes rips your heart out because of what couldve been. i bet folks in okc have hard feelings given that guys like russ / kd / harden all wish they wouldve done it differently.
@clmcoclmco2222
Ай бұрын
Bull is such a child. Cleveland did Baker wrong - period. Coaches should have pulled him to let him get the surgery.
@halloffamebullies
Ай бұрын
He didn’t have to play it was another year on his contract
@ShockerRadio-wi6ze
Ай бұрын
Soooo, he says “I’d get the surgery”, but then “I wouldn’t change anything”, which is completely contradictory. Dude isn’t blue collar, either. He grew up in an upper middle class suburb.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
As a cleveland blue collar worker I appreciated his toughness and willing to play through that pain. Unlike watson who was medically cleared and still sat out.
@okcrum
Ай бұрын
WTF does where he grew up have to do with ANYTHING? Well, your first statement shows you completely missed the point, so I guess you're just another deep CLE thinker. 🤣
@Acebets70
Ай бұрын
HATERS
@danield8337
Ай бұрын
lol Baker is manipulating history to make people think it was just the injury that had him playing poorly in 2021. And a lot of yall believe it 😂
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@danield8337 even in bakers worst season 2021, he put up better stats than deshaun has his 2 years in cleveland. Isn't that crazy. The year he needed surgery he still played better than what deshaun has in cle. And obviously has played much better than watson since the trade too.
@clejay4405
Ай бұрын
Hot take. No one cares.
@DamonShelton-oi9ry
Ай бұрын
Baker was afraid of the back up coming in and doing better. He was playing for a 30+ million/yr contract which he was not even close to playing well enough to justify. Stefanski should had sat him, but he let Baker hang himself. Baker also completely skipped over his stint in Carolina. Anyway, it’s water under the bridge, down the river and out to sea. Who gives a shit?
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Yea his toughness was his downfall that year. He didn't want anyone to come in and outplay him just like Flacco outplayed watson this year.
@jimbridges3499
Ай бұрын
EXACTLY. When he had to get it done. Baker Mayfield "DID NOT DELIVER. Bottom Line. Now we are looking a Mr. Watson. He has got to get it done this year. Bottom Line.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Baker delivered a playoff win to cleveland. Deshaun has not delivered a playoff win to cleveland. Just facts.
@wwz1011
Ай бұрын
I agree 100% with Bull. I expect Baker to lay an egg this season.
@tremayne4194
Ай бұрын
THANK YOU YALL!!! The narrative surrounding Baker continues to expand like an urban legend due to our current QB. I Respect Baker for securing the bag, but let's be real about it though
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Yea he definitely played much better in cleveland than deshaun has. And was a probowler in TB. But he is not tom brady.
@trippeddownthestairs8238
Ай бұрын
1. We all knew his shoulder was injured. 2. No one has been a bigger critic of Baker Mayfield than me. 3. Baker Mayfield is better than Deshaun Watson. 4. Neither Tampa Bay's version of Baker Mayfield nor Deshaun Watson is good enough to ever win a Super Bowl. 5. Baker Mayfield is not a franchise QB in the NFL and neither is Deshaun Watson anymore.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
Strongly agree with number 3.
@Dub257
Ай бұрын
So in some crazy people’s minds, baker gets his non throwing shoulder injured and gets all excuses, meanwhile watson has a throwing shoulder injury that needed surgery and gets none 🤦🏾♂️
@okcrum
Ай бұрын
I don't know what reality you're inhabiting but the narrative so far has been opposite of that in both cases.
@Dub257
Ай бұрын
@@okcrum it really hasn’t, baker got way more excuses for a non throwing shoulder injury
@WSAMP24
Ай бұрын
Deshaun talks about his injury and suspension all the time on his podcast, plus a small group of fans are still making excuses for watson poor play. its been 4 years since he has looked decent. that dude is gone. he is a bad qb now.
@Dub257
Ай бұрын
@@WSAMP24 U must’ve missed the part when he’s asked about it, he doesn’t just bring it up
@WSAMP24
Ай бұрын
@@Dub257 right just like how these podcasters asked baker. Dont matter because whatever your excuses are Baker has been a much better qb the last few years. stats dont lie.
@ttcruise333
Ай бұрын
Adam the bull is 100% right here
@ttcruise333
Ай бұрын
But baker is also one of the best browns QB 🫡
@thekiddsean33026
Ай бұрын
Baker was trash bum could never win close games
@siCCSwAmPsmEss
Ай бұрын
Cincy V Cleveland Week 7 '20 season was fucking fire dah (obj acl tear game) I'd watch the highlights from that back and forth It's one game I know but damn was that fun
@thekiddsean33026
Ай бұрын
@@siCCSwAmPsmEss that was his only 1
@siCCSwAmPsmEss
Ай бұрын
@thekiddsean33026 you said "never" I just wanted to correct you
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
All I know is baker was the only qb in 30 plus years to win a playoff game for the browns.
@siCCSwAmPsmEss
Ай бұрын
@anthonypa8045 don't upset the true believers bro chill 😂😂
@otisyoungblood
Ай бұрын
I thought it was just everybody saying Baker was good. i just remember him getting worse and worse
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
You do know that he was thos years probowl mvp right? And you do know he just won another playoff game.. something deshaun has not done in cleveland or in the last 5 years.
@motives88
Ай бұрын
the baker bro's are sick in the head. he can do NO wrong
@Kul9851CC
Ай бұрын
The baker mayfield cycle. Beat inferioir opponent call out haters, play like shit.
@Bailark
Ай бұрын
Baker sucks.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
What a troll. Baker leads deshaun in playoff wins, probowls, and every individual passing stat since the trade.(per game or total stats) Cope harder.
@Bailark
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 say that to me personally.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@Bailark I just did.
@Bailark
Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 No, son. Not with your keyboard. With your chin. I said Baker sucks...which he does, and you answered with a personal insult to me. Those should be delivered in person.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
@@Bailarksounds like internet tough talk to me, fine if ud like to give me ur address I'd love to deliver something to your chin.
@photonfartsqueeze6694
Ай бұрын
He’s just not that dude. If he was anywhere else in the afc his team wouldn’t have made the playoffs.
@anthonypa8045
Ай бұрын
He already won a playoff game in the afc north too.
@user-jd1uw3vq6x
Ай бұрын
Let's hope the browns don't have to play him this yr.😢
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