I like how everyone is blaming Volt for throwing Brontes out, when in reality, it's Mylene who deserves all that slander.
@marukrawler
8 ай бұрын
i think the only person who blames volt is gus but that's also because gus wasn't there to see mylene take brontes from him. so he just assumes volt threw him out.
@DavidZakuzaRyutashi
8 ай бұрын
@@marukrawler I feel like either Brontes or Volt could've corrected him at any point, but the writers wanted this crippling depression plot to happen, so they just... didn't.
@marukrawler
8 ай бұрын
@@DavidZakuzaRyutashi volt didn't correct gus bc im sure he blames himself. in his eyes, allowing mylene to throw brontes away is equal to him doing that very act. but yeah, could also just be that volt didn't bother to correct gus lol
@Nameer401
4 ай бұрын
Bounties did tell Gus that Mylene threw him out in episode 26
@mintythedemon1785
Жыл бұрын
I like how Alto Brontes has a more robotic laugh. In the English dub, he had a normal laugh.
@SkyTheRebirth
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In eng dub Gus last words to Brontes was: "You served your purpose, but now I done with you." I mean at least Gus respected Brontes and showing some honour by not letting continue his suffering. But original still making Gus a miserable shit with this: "You're not good enough for me..."
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
personally that doesn't mean much to me lmao because gus is the one who inflicted unnecessary pain and torture onto brontes in the first place. and you could see the eng dub line as gus only having done all that to fuck with volt and now that that's over, gus has no more use for brontes which kinda paints him in a worse light lol. before his sudden switch to the good side near the end of s2 i never saw gus as a good person. him and spectra were awful and gus liked doing terrible things with spectra which is cool and i love that gus was fucked up like that, but i wanted s2 to hit him w karma of some kind and that never came, sadly.
@raulbetancourt5795
8 ай бұрын
@@marukrawler I really dont see much different: Gus tortured him and practically stripped him of his soul, Gus did way worse them Mylene or Volt (and volt's only fault was not going back for him)
@markss367
8 ай бұрын
Im not sure wich is accurate But i saw another translation Where Gus says "you're not the right bakugan for me" and imo is a much better line
@offbrandbiscuit
5 ай бұрын
It always felt strange that Gus mocks Volt for his "foolish sentimentality" when he experiences close bonds with Vulcan and Elico when they both are willing to sacrifice themselves for him, with Elico even saying that Gus saved him before, and this is his way of returning the favour. It feels somewhat inconsistent when you look at both interactions.
@zeke7200
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this was something that pissed me off I held out hope Volt would get Brontes back but they way they both were treated was just wrong
@OrmondsStopMotion
2 жыл бұрын
1:35 eng Gus: well I don't want to sound dramatic but I guess in away you could say I took away his soul
@kombatserbia6034
Жыл бұрын
That's even more dark If 4kids dubbed this anime they would completely cut most of parts Wait was it dubbed by them
@OrmondsStopMotion
Жыл бұрын
@@kombatserbia6034 No 4kids did not did there hands on Bakugan.
@tiffanychan9627
2 жыл бұрын
One of many plot holes and tragedies in the Bakugan anime
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
plot hole???
@tiffanychan9627
2 жыл бұрын
@@marukrawler Maybe plothole isn't the right word, but it definitely makes certain points not make sense. (minor spoiler warning if you have not watched the entirety of season 2 and mid arc 1 of season 4) For one, there is Volt and Brontes relation while tragedies are inevitable Brontes isn't mentioned again or brought up. If anything Volt seeing how he had truly lost his 'partner' was just the start of seeing how wrong the Vexos are and even his 'superiors'. Two, Gus tossed Brontes out just because he was useful in making Volt miserable. While at least Brontes was returned back home, he suffers a fate not any different than Mylene tossing him out. I feel that does little for Gus' character arc or lack of one(via producers/writers). While yes he is loyal to Spectra and will do anything for his master's designs, I feel that Gus goes 'good' too easily. Whether it was from battling with the Brawlers in the final battle or the fact Spectra(Keith) is battling with the Brawlers and thus will battle with Spectra, there is too sudden a change in his character. You could argue between his battle with Zenoheld (one-on-one, or rather one-on-overkill) and the time he reappears in the last battle Gus had enough time to reflect/think things over about his past actions and whatnot, but I feel that is not enough for someone who is fiercely and sincerely loyal to one person (with a power-driven designs) to change sides even after a battle ('the Alternative')
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanychan9627 yeah im not gonna lie, season 2 is just not that well written (despite what people may say) exactly for this reason. gus changing sides immediately at the very last minute makes no damn sense considering his motivations and what he's helped spectra do in the past, neither he or spectra deserve redemption. in hindsight, brontes being used like this was kind of a waste since it's not for another 13 episodes that volt defects from the vexos and he and brontes never reunite again. what makes volt leave the vexos is ultimately not because mylene tossed his best friend away or volt disagreeing with the destruction of all bakugan, he just can't go through killing innocent people. so if brontes turning out like this didn't help him defect, then what's the damn point???
@gersong.4075
2 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanychan9627 I agree, Gus’s character would’ve benefitted greatly from more screen time. I can see why people are fine with Spectra’s change as we see him aid the Brawler’s prior to the finale but Gus is absent in all this (due to him losing to Zenoheld). If we had scenes from Gus’s POV while locked up and him reflecting what he’s done wrong maybe I would’ve gone on board but he turns to the good side way too easily
@siphemanana2551
2 жыл бұрын
@@marukrawler I think everyone who watched Bakugan: New Vestroia and a critical mind kind of knew that Season 2 is a cesspool of mismanaged writing but because it's a kids show I think people overlooked that P.S. If I had to take Bakugan's OG writing or YGO Sevens. I'd take Bakugan anyday
@silverstar1805
2 жыл бұрын
Brontes's laught got me like😰
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
brontes did the jevil from deltarune laugh before it was cool
@miketherobotinkling7741
7 ай бұрын
Heres a what if, ok here goes What if volt won the battle and got brontes back, volt would've have a power house bakugan again since brontes is one formidable opponent and what makes him tough is he can destroy gate cards with whatever ability it was, plus brontes would help volt destroy dryoid with boriaties along with brontes dynamo and carlvelt/hexstar and avoid the death ball if he teleported away
@darklordcommeth2367
4 ай бұрын
Okay, I never cared much about Gus as a character because he seemed to be nothing more than a bootlicker for Spectra and I usually don't like that type of character, but those were the episodes where I began to truly despise him. Not only did Gus torture Brontes and inflict severe mental damage on him, but he also used him in an attempt to fuck with Volt. Watching Volt in such emotional distress was heartbreaking. Then, after Brontes served his purpose, Gus dumped him in New Vestroia where he will remain all alone, possibly with his mental state permanently degraded, and will never get a chance to reunite with Volt because, as we know, Volt will eventually be killed by Hydron. That was far worse than what Mylene did. And Gus will never be punished for it. It's absolutely ludicrous that Gus got away with everything and joined the Brawlers in the end, while Volt and Brontes met such unpleasant ends. Speaking of Volt, what was the point of all this? Volt tried to get Brontes back because he cared about him and was angry at himself for his failure to save him sooner, but he seemingly forgot about him afterwards. He never mentioned or thought about him ever again. His failure to save him a second time doesn't weigh on his mind. He just moved on. It's like none of this ever happened. Brontes didn't even tie into Volt's decision to defect from the Vexos. He left because he disagreed with Zenoheld's plan to use the Alternative to destroy Earth and Vestal and kill innocent people. I took issue with this because Zenoheld was already conspiring to kill innocents. He wanted to use the BT System to commit genocide against an entire race of innocent creatures whose only "crime" was not staying under his oppressive rule. Sorry to say, but the whole thing doesn't paint Volt in a very positive light. It would make more sense if his bond with Brontes was the catalyst for Volt questioning his allegiance to the Vexos and realizing that he was on the wrong side. Volt really should have defected much earlier and perhaps helped the Brawlers with destroying the BT System.
@marukrawler
4 ай бұрын
wish i could pin your comment bc that was some real shit you just said lmao preach!!
@darklordcommeth2367
4 ай бұрын
@@marukrawler Does that mean that you agree with what I said? I'm a little confused, I suppose.
@marukrawler
4 ай бұрын
@@darklordcommeth2367 oops sorry for the confusion! but yes i agree with everything you said! i've always thought that this storyline is pointless and it does nothing when it comes to volt's character development. you could absolutely remove this entire thing and it wouldn't affect the plot at all. that's how pointless it was
@Nameer401
Ай бұрын
I never understood why volt never mentioned bronties again after losing to Gus it made 0 sence
@professorpengu502
9 күн бұрын
Him regaining the ability to speak was likely to show he recovered mostly so he's probably just living on vestroia now
@Dgunz
2 жыл бұрын
I already found the dub to be pretty disheartening, but holy cow I've never realized just how good the Japanese sub is. I've never really given it a chance as I prefer the music of the dub over the sub. This is honestly a hell of a lot more depressing especially with the better voice actors. I don't understand why the dub cut out 4:15. It's small but effective. Honestly the ending with Brontes calling out Volt's name with the music was a much better scene and is like the first instance where I prefer the sub.
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
glad to hear lmao while decent, i feel like there are a variety of scenes where the eng dub drops the ball, especially when it comes to music choices (see sid's death scene)
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
also as you'll see on my channel, the eng dub has a tendency to cut out footage (to make the episodes fit the airing time slots better) or rewrite parts of the original story (for whatever reason. though when it came to shiori's death, that one was a bit obvious lol)
@offbrandbiscuit
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the dub's music is just way better. Shit gets me goin' crazy, but the translations (or rather localisations) of the anime in English change so much. Even within the first episode, there was a really interesting part when Mira is introducing Volt and Lync to Dan. EN: "The big one with no brains is Volt. The baby who thinks he's cool is Lync." / "Watch your mouth!" / "Like he said." JP: "The big guy is Volt. The one who thinks he's funny is Lync." / "And I guess that makes you..." / "A traitor to our kind." Which might suggest that either the Vexos are made to believe that resistance against the Royal Vestal Family is an act of treason, in spite of their colonial actions, or that the Vexos at least view Mira as a traitor (since they might be aware that she's the brother of Spectra Phantom, the top Vexos brawler)
@Cumrel
2 жыл бұрын
5:12 ĄĄĄĄ, censorship, why you delete this?
@CarrietheMelodiousGamer
23 күн бұрын
How does Gus not get why Volt wants Brontes back? I don't know how he feel about Vulcan, but Vulcan is loyal to Gus by choice and Spectra and Helios respect each other. This is take 2 cause I accidentally erased the first take before posting the comment.
@professorpengu502
9 күн бұрын
Because he's working for someone who created a weapon to destroy all bakugan I believe in the dub he even asks Volt "why are you pretending to care about him"
@CarrietheMelodiousGamer
9 күн бұрын
@@professorpengu502 yea that's true
@morrismurimi3965
2 жыл бұрын
Brontes Japanese voice sounds like a kabuki actor's
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
i think you hear kabuki music play in the bg when he pops out but the japanese wikipedia says he has the voice of a heian aristocrat lol
@morrismurimi3965
2 жыл бұрын
@@marukrawler in a Japanese dub (which I later learned has more life than the dub which I grew up with) episode there was that sound in the background.
@joshfarmer8408
2 жыл бұрын
So I have a question, what was volts plan if he won brontes back? At the end of the day he is still helping a mad man kill all the bakugan for basically no reason, and it's not like him getting brontes back is going to change anything. If anything they will just toss him out again or use him as a lab rat for the bt system. So what was his end goal here
@marukrawler
2 жыл бұрын
yeah in hindsight volt going along with zenoheld's plan to kill all organic bakugan makes no damn sense which is why i personally think he should've defected much sooner than episode 46. the brontes storyline should've made him realize he was on the wrong side, and i think if he did end up winning brontes back volt would've been forced to turn on zenoheld (or quietly sabotage the bt system/help the brawlers) in order to protect brontes.
@altheapiazza426
Жыл бұрын
Semplici riavere il suo amico per salvarlo
@norell791
Жыл бұрын
@@marukrawler season 2's part 2 is soo silly. I agree with you, i have always thought like you: volt could sabotage the system and help battle brawlers secretly .
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