Good ethical sand in the line; `hope it does very well.. one thing not heard of is how many snakes/reptiles die off from the mass production, like dime-goldfish, basically; disregard for a creature that is totally dependent on the human who chose it. Thanks for initiating; i hope it will become a new standard for the long haul.
@greenhouse5g
6 жыл бұрын
I get your point about the wackadoos on facebook who swear that they are the end all be all authority on how to properly care for a ball python. There is certainly more than one way to skin a cat. However, saying that you're right and tub/rack systems are abuse to the point that you want to see laws regulating it to agree with your point of view... how again does that make you any different from those crazies?
@beararmstactical7343
6 жыл бұрын
JGreen good question! Did you watch the entire video? I have a hypothesis and I’m willing to prove my hypothesis through scientific study. I think that is what sets me apart...I’m at least open minded enough to admit that there is a possibility that I am wrong. Besides, there are standards For keeping mammals in this country and criterion as to what constitutes animal abuse in mammals but as far as I know none of the same standards for reptiles. Now, I am not for government involvement in private affairs but I think we can all agree exceptions should be made when it comes to animal abuse, no?
@greenhouse5g
6 жыл бұрын
Leaving a dog in a 5x5 kennel isn’t animal abuse. Wild canine were free roaming with home ranges spanning miles of territory. Now a kennel of 5x5 is acceptable for them to live most of their lives. But you say keeping a reptile in a rack is abuse because you hypothesize that they benefit from more. Maybe, and that dog would benefit from more. I’m not arguing about the husbandry practices. I’m arguing that your stance and attitude makes you just as nuts... only from the other side of the fence. There are plenty of rack system in use in the UK too... so it’s not illegal there either as you state in your video. And live feeding is legal if it’s absolutely necessary for the health of your snake.
@greenhouse5g
6 жыл бұрын
I’ll just leave it at this. I was on your side in the beginning. Agreeing that those Facebook group know it alls saying that there way is the only way... they’re crazy. I agreed. Arguing that tubs and racks are the only way... that’s nuts. Arguing that paper is the best substrate is ridiculous. I get what you’re trying to do. Yes, some enrichment could prove beneficial. Does that mean it’s a crime to not have any? That’s asking the law to back your point of view so you can feel more right than those others. The law will never ban tubs and racks. NEVER. Best you can hope for is a cult following that become proponents of the “new way” of snake keeping. Maybe the information will spread and some new thinking will take root. That whole seeking laws to back you up... that’s where you lost me. You became one of the others.
@beararmstactical7343
6 жыл бұрын
JGreen Hey man I really appreciate you engaging me in intelligent conversation on this issue....I think I went a little too far when I said I think tubs and racks should be “animal abuse”. I didn’t really mean it in the legal sense of the word, as in I think people should Go to jail for keeping ball pythons in tubs in a rack. What I really meant to say was that I wish it would become the general recommendation/Best practices To provide the most enriched environment possible for your Captive reptiles, specifically ball pythons.
@beararmstactical7343
6 жыл бұрын
JGreen also, Regarding what I said about the laws in the UK...The Animal welfare act of 2006 says Humans must provide for their animals’ five basic needs which are: need for a suitable environment(as defined by the RSPCA care sheet. I have linked to it below for your Reference) need for a suitable diet need to be able to exhibit normal behaviour patterns(Ties in with suitable environment) need to be housed with, or apart, from other animals need to be protected from pain, suffering, injury and disease.(Regarding protection of the live pray items from unnecessary suffering)
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