In Melbourne I have never met any Rugby union fans.
@TrystaneTheBlack
2 ай бұрын
I remember when the Wallabies versed the All Blacks there recently it looked like there were more black jerseys than gold in the crowd tbh
@stephendraffin5775
2 ай бұрын
@@TrystaneTheBlack” Wallabies versed the All Blacks”, seriously you need to learn English
@albertmiller2electricbooga897
3 ай бұрын
Stan Sport being an extra 10 bucks on top of Stan monthly turned me off right away. I'm not paying 35 a month for mediocre TV shows and sport only on weeknights at 3 am and weekends at 11am (in WA)
@hiramhackenbacker9096
3 ай бұрын
Melbourne is AFL mad and the established media do their best to keep that going. People in other places may not understand how dominant that code is here. However Melbourne Storm and Victory have proven there is a place for other codes but you have to be successful to do it. It was always hard for the Rebels. I'd reckon most of the Melbourne public don't even know the difference between League and Union. Most don't watch the Wallabies even when they were doing well. Union has a niche following but they're nearly all expats from other places. There is not enough existing desire to watch Rugby Union here. The Rebels needed to create that desire but they never really built any consistent momentum.
@Will_Pearce
2 ай бұрын
Agree 100% if your going to start a team in a new area you need to win. Its that simple, the storm did it from the get go (even if they may have cheated to do so), but regardless you cant put on an average spectical week in week out and not expect something to go wrong. The dissaponting thing is that its not like the Rebels or RA didn't try its simply that it was the worst team in the worst possible area while the game is declining as a whole
@iankearns774
2 ай бұрын
I watched the Wallabies religiously through the 80's and 90's but it started to get too technical and I lost interest in it and I am Victorian and obviously an AFL supporter. Nothing about the Rebels ever grabbed me, they were never marketed very well. I still support the Brumbies and always have.
@AussieRoos
2 ай бұрын
Never understood why the Rebels were introduced so shortly after the Western Force, it diluted an already slim talent pool in a very competitive sporting market
@user-be4tv1hn7l
Ай бұрын
I have been a Melbourne rebel fan for my entire life and my dad has been too😢
@andrew_l1900
17 күн бұрын
The problem with rugby in Australia is simple…..Rugby Australia and the absolutely clueless muppets who have been running it for the last 20years
@falconresistance
3 ай бұрын
Union in Australia is dead and has been for ages. I was never into union as much as league but I could atleast recognise and name all the starting wallaby players and a lot of random players from the domestic level. Now I don’t even kno who the current wallaby captain is. I never hear the scores from the domestic comp (I assume because I get my sport info mainly from fox sports and the Stan deal stops them from promoting it to much). This random video is the first union news I have heard in weeks. Union use to have this image of prestige and league seemed in it shadow. At least on the international level in Australia League players used to wanna play for wallaby’s. Now no one does. If it wasn’t for NZ and nz expats in Australia playing and going to games to watch NZ teams it probably be in a way worst state.
@BDub2024
2 ай бұрын
Serves Rugby right. Rugby WA made stupid decision to kick Force out when they had the support and now its bitten Australian rugby across all levels. Considering huge numbers of South Africans and English in Perth, the Rugby kicked a massive own goal. Instead they've just switched to AFL and soccer. So a whole generation of passionate rugby fans have been lost.
@lynxraide
2 ай бұрын
That was Rugby Australia's call, not Rugby WA. They needed to cull teams from Super Rugby and for some stupid reason they decided to cull the Force which had the support in favour of the Rebels who at the time had the private ownership. Funny thing, like the Perth Reds to Melbourne Storm in 1998, most of the Force team went to the Rebels and put them up the ladder from last.
@BDub2024
2 ай бұрын
@@lynxraide Sorry I meant Rugby Australia. Rugby WA was also funded by State govt to make it work. But Rugby Australia had to assist with encouraging players etc so that the Force would be a success. How stupid will they prove to be if NRL get a foothold and Union is lost forever in Perth. Sliding door moment. Its opened and shut a few times admittedly with the Reds being shown the door by the NRL a few decades earlier.
@BDub2024
2 ай бұрын
@@lynxraide I'm not from Sydney and never been there for that matter. But am I right in thinking that Rugby Union is dying there. Is some of the previous appeal by the middle to high income earners shifted across to Sydney Swans and AFL? My understanding is that the NRL has the same support. Soccer growing. AFL clearly growing. Union declining.
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
@@lynxraide remembering the experience of The Reds made this whole regretful episode quite emotionally spiteful for West Aussies who enjoy the Rugby codes. While there's sympathy for the Rebels players and staff, there's also an air hor good riddance. Losing the Force in 2017 felt like the loss of the Reds, where the perception from Perth was that once again a deserving Perth was being killed off for an undeserving Melbourne. That the Rebels were brought in prematurely to the detriment of the Force. That the Rebels got much more funding and support from RugbyAU than the Force, just like the Storm being nurtured by the NRL and News Ltd, while the Reds were bankrupted by having to pickup away teams travel.and accommodation on-top of their own
@Will_Pearce
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunatley it was an uphill battle for the rebels from the start, a brand new franchise with no prior supporter base or history with their city being placed in possibly the worlds most competitve sporting city. This combined with the fact that there were never a sucessful team by any measure, its a hard ask to try and get bums on seats at that point. what is possibly worse for rugby Australia is that losing the only professional team in a state where rugby isnt popular to begin with (arguably WA as well) it means national growth of the game is going to struggle massively. The irony behind all this is that while the Rebels are going under the Melbourne Storm are one of the best supported and most sucessful teams in the NRL, why because they were WINNERS something that the rebels never did and its unsuprising why people stopped showing up. From this point onwards Rugby Australia needs to focus on where the game is popular and cater to that market cause clearly at this current time rugby dosen't have the reach for expansion like the AFL or NRL does. Weather this means an abandoning of super rugby to focus on an Australian central game or otherwise i think this needs to be a turning point for RA. I agree on the point of needing to put the game on free to air or at least a 50/50 split. Anyway the current Super Rugby format is locked in till 2027 but after that serious change needs to happen to the game.
@Michael-D.-Williams
3 ай бұрын
Just cause an artificial Melbourne side finished up that doesn't stuff the entire comp. If anything, the other Australian sides will be stronger and more likely to attract paying spectators.
@themelbournerailfan
2 ай бұрын
Union is sadly dying, even league is more popular in vic than union. Let alone in Australia.
@albertmiller2electricbooga897
3 ай бұрын
Can't fault the graphic designer for phoning it in on the last day of the job
@SuphiyaFui
Ай бұрын
One of the rebels player is my aunties brother
@SuphiyaFui
Ай бұрын
I forgot his name tho
@dtrezy5223
3 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone here in Melbourne cares. A lot of people down here probably don't know they even existed and many people probably don't know the difference between Rugby league and Rugby union. The AFL is always the dominant sport here in Victoria but the Melbourne Storm have been very successful and have a strong following and I know plenty of Storm supporters over here but I don't know any Rebels supporters.
@lynxraide
2 ай бұрын
No matter the code, I have never gotten the "dilute the pool" argument when entering a new, specifically non-traditional market. One of the benefits from entering the market is it inspires potential players who might not make it in the dominant local code to maybe change and take it up. Its why there are quite a few American Football players changing to Union in College cause the NFL is limited
@albertmiller2electricbooga897
3 ай бұрын
You're so quick with these you''ve got a lot of potential!
@TBoneTony
2 ай бұрын
Super Rugby can only succeed in NSW and Queensland. That as well as the failures of Wallabies in International matches hasn't helped.
@MovieHeretic
20 күн бұрын
Actually the Brumbies, the most successful Aussie Super franchise, would disagree with you.
@MovieHeretic
20 күн бұрын
A number of things wrong with your analysis. The expansion of Super Rugby beyond the QLD and NSW strongholds was going to be problematic, as pointed out by rugby fans when first mooted. Since having five Super teams Australian rugby standards have been in steady decline, something the ARU was warned about prior to the expansion franchises. Some claimed it would increase the pool of talent for rugby, obviously this was a false claim, as pointed out by numerous followers of the sport. Unfortunately the big city Australian sporting market is tough, your team not doing well, support and sponsorship drops off. Super rugby is going from strength to strength in NZ, mainly due to the NZ teams battling each other rather than the games involving Australian teams, where a win for the Aussie franchises is becoming a rare event. However the major problem for Super rugby was the South African franchises pulling the pin, which saw a marked decline in revenue streams for the competition overall and which I would argue sounded a death note for the competition. Not sure where the answer is for Rugby Australia, definitely greater support for grass roots rugby would be a starting point, and to be honest I can see a further contraction to traditional powerhouses Queensland and NSW, with Canberra surviving. A national Australia competition is really non-feasible, though a lot of people somehow see this as an instantly solution, those people clearly have never heard of the ARC which was a complete disaster, being primarily a Sydney and Brisbane comp with a few other teams added, it didn't appeal to fans outside the major centers. Rugby maintains a healthy support in Australia, but the powers that be need to be realistic and not go for expansion for expansions sake, as the NRL and AFL are about to discover if some of their more insane ideas see teams created in areas that can't support or won't support those teams. For Rugby, sometimes the simple solution is best, greater support for grass roots clubs and not having grandiose ideas about it being a nationally supported code. NZ can support five franchises because of the player base and the advertising revenue available for the five franchises, the same was true of the Saffa franchises - which are now playing in Euro comps btw, but the interest simply isn't there in Australia at the moment. The results of the Australian men's team at the last World Cup isn't helping, first time ever knocked out at the pool stage - shut out to the Fijian team, and the Olympics results were shockingly bad. If the national teams aren't doing well then this has a flow on effect to the regional teams. Rugby will continue to be an International sport in Australia, but the results have to happen to get traction with the Aussie public beyond rugby supporters.
@Magpie_Mark92
Ай бұрын
Rugby isn't a Melbourne sport
@JGDT5559
2 ай бұрын
Cheetahs Rebels Pumas Griquas BlackLion Jaguares make it happen
@The_wolf_gamer
2 ай бұрын
well tbh i think this is good cause that means tahs brumbies reds and force will get better and also the jaguars mite be coming abck next year so we will have better Australia teams and jaguars were always good so we have a better comp more teams in that fight for super rugby title with canes chiefs blues and brumbies and then maybe jaguars crusaders and reds as wild cards to maybe breck up the winners so we don`t have back to back winner s
@JudgeBluey
2 ай бұрын
So, we now know football is truly about money and most definitely NOT football..!! Typical..!!
@declansb641
3 ай бұрын
Just a quick google search suggests it was almost 18 thousand at the Rebels vs Chiefs at aami park
@CommissionerManu
3 ай бұрын
Where did those numbers come from? Nothing I can find suggests that a union game got even close to those numbers at AAMI park this year
@adammaggs8563
3 ай бұрын
That’s more than someStorm games, not a chance
@declansb641
3 ай бұрын
@@CommissionerManu Aus stadiums website
@caintindal1671
3 ай бұрын
Not getting the crowds here in Australia can thank Eddie for that in some ways but in the Northern Hemisphere are getting large crowds.
@declansb641
3 ай бұрын
@@CommissionerManu austadiums have crowd records of all aami park games
@pman6549
3 ай бұрын
This’ll be Gold Coast in 10 years
@CommissionerManu
3 ай бұрын
Suns or Titans?
@patrickobrian9669
3 ай бұрын
@@CommissionerManu por que no los dos?
@BrisbaneBroncosfan67
2 ай бұрын
@@CommissionerManuI mean they have the same crowds average
@VelvetRiot-hz5mp
2 ай бұрын
Super Rugby is on it's knees. Not much interest in Australia even in the 'rugby pocket of Australia'. In NZ, I don't think they care much for it other than the tv rights to prop up their tiny economic situation. Do we even need a Super Rugby comp? Aspiring players can move overseas to play for money and Wallabies can draw these players for tests. So, it's dying and I don't think the rugby sport is very good as a spectator sport as is. Needs to be reworked for the future. Maybe cut the numbers to 11 players, reduce this farce scrum business. Feeding it into the 2nd and 3rd row is not a competition, its rigged.
@heyguyswhatshappening6210
Ай бұрын
I never understood what the scrum is for. I know the ball gets rolled in there but for what reason I don’t know.
@VelvetRiot-hz5mp
Ай бұрын
@@heyguyswhatshappening6210 The law says the ball is supposed to be fed into the middle and the two hookers, 'have to hook the ball' back towards their own side. It has lost track of it's original intention as a restart mechanism.
@tangiers365
3 ай бұрын
there would have been more chiefs fans in the photo
@53af00d
2 ай бұрын
Melbourne is so inlove with its self, there was no way a rugby franchise was going to survive
@growdaddy4281
2 ай бұрын
Who cares. Melbourne is not a rugby city. Rugby Australia are the international pros at wasting money in rugby since the late 90s
@crawford1083
3 ай бұрын
Now put Western Force down and focus on Brumbies and Tahs and Reds.
@StuTheDon17
3 ай бұрын
Why? The Force are backed by a billionaire. They aren't hurting anyone financially at least.
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