It's funny how Scott Steiner and Cody Rhodes actually came back in WWE games after this video. Both returned in WWE 2K23.
@King_Zykov
6 ай бұрын
and DDP
@WrestlingCult
5 ай бұрын
and now in 2k24 lol
@ajgoss6422
5 ай бұрын
Cody finally finished his story😂
@TromaDogg
4 жыл бұрын
Owen Hart actually died at Over The Edge 1999, not 1998.
@thesherrifsliveevents5128
4 жыл бұрын
Another mistake, dude needs to fact check his videos as I like his content
@notoriousyoutuber
4 жыл бұрын
TromaDogg i know, and this dude fucking made a whole video about this.
@The_Amortal_Univursal_Emperor
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't Chris Benoit hang himself or try to?
@heffman102
4 жыл бұрын
He always seems to be getting facts wrong in his videos, it's not hard to do some research before making videos
@ChaosDevin
4 жыл бұрын
Yes and oh nice Tails avatar!
@whereTheDooDoo-is
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with both Bret and Martha. They are both right. Martha should continue to stand her ground against WWE. and Bret is right too, Owen's memory is being slowly erased. They are both 100% correct in how they feel!
@CamaroAmx
4 жыл бұрын
replicagl hating an industry just because your husband died in a tragic accident while working in that industry is stupid. It’s a thin excuse to hold on to a grudge. Funny thing is that her husband loved aspect of the business. But Owen knew the dangers and was well known to be as cheap as possible on the road so he could squirrel away as much money as he could so he could retire early. I bet Martha has no problem spending the money Owen made from the industry.
@matthewford3447
4 жыл бұрын
replicagl You're right Owen's memory is slowing being erased but not by the WWE but by Martha herself because she's the one who doesn't want the WWE to mentioned him in anyway shape or fourm because she refuses to let go of a grudge over a freak tragic accident. And what is really sad her let her grudge rub off on their kids when they have nothing to do with it. I find it funny that Martha claims she cares by Owen's memory and want to keep it alive where in fact she's the one hurting it the most.
@whereTheDooDoo-is
4 жыл бұрын
@@CamaroAmx I don't believe I am going to be able to really explain this but I'll try my best.. With all of the circumstances surrounding Owen's death, circumstances with both Owen and Bret in that company, I have a sour taste in my mouth till this very day about what happened to Owen, and I fully support Martha. There are things that happen in life, there are things that people do... and as a result... there are some grudges you carry with you unto death. Sometimes people deserve it, sometimes situations deserve it.
@basedfrosti
4 жыл бұрын
@@CamaroAmx Good for her in getting a bag then
@maskedcrusaderings
4 жыл бұрын
True
@seannborba8416
4 жыл бұрын
That's unfortunate when you realize rick steiner will never be in a game not because he is banned but because it makes no sense to put him and not scott.
@TJ52359
4 жыл бұрын
IDK... he had a respectable Singles career in the territories and in JCP/NWA (pre-WCW ) before Scott debuted ... with the Love 'Southpaw" is getting would a late 80s/early 90s "Death of the Territories" theme be out of the question for 2k22?
@seannborba8416
4 жыл бұрын
@@TJ52359 it's always possible I just think it's unlikely. He was a great wrestler but 2k would probably get backlash or vince wouldn't even want the name steiner anywhere near a wwe product. I would love to have a kurt angle vs rick steiner 2k dream match tho.
@horrorshow3668
4 жыл бұрын
Seann Borba uk
@lexxbreeland9351
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@olympic_weightlift4u632
4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@DJDoubleCee
4 жыл бұрын
Correction at 0:53, Owen Hart’s accident happened at Over The Edge 1999 not 1998. But nonetheless, it’s sad that we never saw him in another wrestling game after WWF Attitude. He definitely was a legend.
@baemaxlpz4689
4 жыл бұрын
It's just creepy by the ppv name
@bpwildbill11
4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Hill those are not WWE licensed, so that's why he's in those games.
@Conspiracy515
4 жыл бұрын
@@bpwildbill11 I've always wondered how they got away with that. How did they get all those legends without permission?
@bpwildbill11
4 жыл бұрын
@@Conspiracy515 they probably did get permission, it's because of it being a different company she was alright with giving them permission to use him, same with others.
@Tom364
4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t the first time he has had an error in his videos. Pushes this garbage out so quick that he doesn’t check info.
@dagameplayer
4 жыл бұрын
Eh, caws are realistic enough now a days, and they're most likely only going to keep getting better.
@mikereyes2488
4 жыл бұрын
Right, they might as well make a generic wrestling game with great caw to make whoever you want, like fire pro wrestling but with 2k graphics
@TJ52359
4 жыл бұрын
with the addition of the Face Scan/Photo Import tech I've seen CAWs that were all but indistinguishable from the Official Roster - I'm still playing 2k19 (due to the 2K20 issues, and I'm poor) with a maxed out CAW roster that I topped off within the first month of owning it.... but to increase play-ability, I'll cull 5-10 CAWs and Download new ones after every year in Universe mode... somewhere around Year 3 I was looking to thin the herd, and I couldn't find an 'under used' character... turns out they were Official... Similarly, Ciampa (in)famously didn't make the cut on the 2K Roster (contact issues IIRC) to this day I still forget he's under 'Created' when selecting him for matches, as the CAW is so good (his epic beard helping to hid the usual 'artifacts' of the face scan, doesn't hurt) and he spent his first 'Universe Year' in DIY with Gargano who is on the roster
@lilwoodiewood3457
4 жыл бұрын
They had good ones in the first smackvs raw u can look up good caws in it online there just wasnt a community forum if u were good at making a caw u could make a good one 15 years ago
@dagameplayer
4 жыл бұрын
@@lilwoodiewood3457 I know, i played all those games. I'm saying it's better than ever now though.
@nevermindgaming6848
4 жыл бұрын
Eh not really they don't have their music entrance or entrance video so your basically playing with a fake
@maulfazri3697
4 жыл бұрын
Modders : Thats Cute
@anegg1369
4 жыл бұрын
M.F.G Network creators: hi daddy
@paradoxtv8304
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@sirtophat
3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha
@Trippy_Ghost
3 жыл бұрын
@Owen Scarberry that’s dlc not mods 🤔
@wagwanbennydj6003
3 жыл бұрын
Not officially put on a game... ofc mods can do anything lol
@dhenderson1810
4 жыл бұрын
I can see the Road Warriors or others eventually being back in games. All they did was file a concussion lawsuit. That will keep them out for a while, but it pales to the falling outs they had with Bret Hart, Goldberg, Ultimate Warrior or C.M. Punk, and all of them (except Punk, but that might not be long off either) have come back. Bruno Sammartino is back in the fold. If these guys can get forgiveness, then the lawsuit guys will. It might be ten years down the track, but I tip that some of these Legends will start popping up again.
@MadMan3498
4 жыл бұрын
Dale Henderson ikr the class action lawsuit is pretty damn big with equally big names on it, I highly doubt the WWE wouldn’t work with if they we’re ever interested in mending ties.
@mindaugasmazrimas4554
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody gives a fuck about the Road Warriors. If they could push copies of the game, theyd have been back years ago.
@THECARS7879
4 жыл бұрын
Axe and Smash of demolition and King Kong Bundy , Hercules and Rick Martel are still missing from the hall of fame
@DarkScorpionPete98
Ай бұрын
@@mindaugasmazrimas4554Boy, quit smoking. The Road Warriors were legendary.
@AronTW
4 жыл бұрын
Correction:Cody's last game was 2K17
@jye_dafoxracing7546
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AronTW
4 жыл бұрын
@@RumblyAxe Go look at the roster for 2K17. You'll see Stardust is there.
@RumblyAxe
4 жыл бұрын
Aron actually it was 17 like I said
@AronTW
4 жыл бұрын
@@RumblyAxe You said 16
@RumblyAxe
4 жыл бұрын
Aron I said 17
@markymark102189
4 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Hassan was SUCH a great heel. His music was perfect to interrupt too
@Noobsaibot21
4 жыл бұрын
I still think he'd be good to being back as a once off such as a new gimmick battle Royale. Or maybe in an undertaker "this is your life" segment similar to Buchanan/B-2 at John Cena's one
@MR-os1kf
4 жыл бұрын
But wwe DESTROY HIM
@ChaosDevin
4 жыл бұрын
His music was great, well composed music.
@kenrickkahn
4 жыл бұрын
That dude was a great heel! And that work shoot he cut after the PC people complained was nothing but greatness..
@booshid
4 жыл бұрын
@@Noobsaibot21 this is a great idea. Unfortunately things are so PC now and with their ties to the Saudi Market as their top draw now, this will never ever happen
@crowpowter3507
4 жыл бұрын
Martha Hart doesn't mind Owen's likeness appearing in non-WWE products. He's been in 2 Legends of Wrestling games. She just doesn't want WWE to be involved.
@trailcysper4094
4 жыл бұрын
Oh gotta check that out
@sandyriley222
4 жыл бұрын
Those were not official wwe games
@jeremyriley1238
2 жыл бұрын
That is true. Heck, Owen has been confirmed to appear in the upcoming AEW video game.
@vin9663
2 жыл бұрын
@@sandyriley222 it's hard to read, isn't it?
@morgancarini1130
4 жыл бұрын
Actually Raven's last video game appearance was in Shut Your Mouth
@hampolice4679
4 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but isnt shut your mouth older?
@morgancarini1130
4 жыл бұрын
@@hampolice4679 WM X8- June 9th, 2002 SYM- October 31st, 2002
@morgancarini1130
4 жыл бұрын
Raven had his invasion storyline attire in X8, while SYM had the attire he started using right after the first draft
@Majerwwefanner
4 жыл бұрын
Morgan Carini he’s in Here Comes The Pain
@nevermindgaming6848
4 жыл бұрын
There was other games besides shut your mouth and hctp
@jamalvargas6146
4 жыл бұрын
I miss Victoria she was one of the better female talented in wwe back then
@THECARS7879
4 жыл бұрын
You can create her or download a Victoria, find her through search . Also the name is there available too People like Earthquake Yokozuna as they had to use two names to sound that way. Chris Benoit too
@plasmus100
4 жыл бұрын
Jamal Vargas she was super underrated.
@THECARS7879
4 жыл бұрын
@@plasmus100 super awesome really. I liked a few of them in those times
@inaaronshead7331
4 жыл бұрын
I wish she made a better sex tape.
@Stinkmeaner-_-
4 жыл бұрын
NecroKilliac Z horny nigga alert
@blackphillip2264
4 жыл бұрын
- yes we’d feel comfortable playing as Benoit, I download his CAW every year - no, Triple H IS NOT more hard pressed about bringing people back than Vince McMahon. In fact, the COMPLETE OPPOSITE. HHH was instrumental and responsible for convincing and getting Bruno Sammartino, Ultimate Warrior, and others back into the WWE family. - I’ll bet my life we see Jericho in a WWE game again at some point again in our lifetimes. - they made a whole WWE game based around CM Punk with him on the cover after he walked out and left the company on horrible terms
@raysmithpt25
4 жыл бұрын
😮😃TELL EM
@CamaroAmx
4 жыл бұрын
Benoit will back in a game someday. They used to edit matches so there was no mention of Benoit but that has since relaxed. So given enough time he could be back. I believe there will be a lot more bridges mended with former wrestlers once Vince is out of the picture. CM Punk was still under contract when the game was in development and the game was basically done by the time he left. Even though punk walked out, he was by far not the only one who had done so and returned at a later date. At that point it was still felt that he could come back after he let off some steam and healed up. When AEW folds in the future, Jericho and the like will most likely reappear. AEW is on a role, but that haven’t proved their longevity (they have only been around a year or so and only been on TV for 6 months or so). WCW lasted 15 years before they collapsed. Plus AEW hasn’t proved they can keep going on their own without a serious financial backer as a safety net.
@LukeTheGeek
4 жыл бұрын
Villain Village CM Punk wasn’t on the cover he was just the main feature of showcase mode
@eesquivias93
4 жыл бұрын
CM Punk was on the cover for WWE 13 which came out in 2012. He walked out in 2014.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px
4 жыл бұрын
Villain Village If you are talking about 2k15 which had a showcase about Punk. There was a reason why he was still there despite already leaving. The game was already in development at the time of his departure. Hell part of his lawsuit against the company included using his likeness in 2k15 without paying for it.
@wrestlingcaws17
2 жыл бұрын
1. Owen Hart died in 1999 2. Cody Rhodes last video game appearance was actually WWE 2K17 as Stardust 3.Fun to rewatching now know cody is back in WWE so we get him in the game next year
@nizzy34
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Cody Rhodes one didn't age well 👀
@TheKingdomofMashups1033
11 ай бұрын
Or Scott Steiner
@kaydennaruto151
11 ай бұрын
Yea
@AaronG1bson
7 ай бұрын
the DDP one also didn’t age well either, considering he was announced as DLC this year
@lexxroxx7307
4 жыл бұрын
Stardust was in wwe 2k17 was he not? Edit: yes he was.
@nevermindgaming6848
4 жыл бұрын
Two different gimmicks
@lexxroxx7307
4 жыл бұрын
@@nevermindgaming6848 and he said stardust 2k16
@Aqib2
4 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Da Moose dumbass he said gimmick
@grimstone007
4 жыл бұрын
Actually Gamia, Cody Rhodes last appearance was in WWE 2K17 as Stardust not WWE 2K16
@Larry
4 жыл бұрын
What about Jimmy Snuka?
@chasityrichardson8544
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck Jimmy snuka
@gerardwaysway5999
4 жыл бұрын
"but hello you!"
@jasonworth6776
3 жыл бұрын
If my memory serves me right, the last WWE game we played as Jimmy Snuka was SmackDown vs Raw 2011, but because of his death and his crimes, we haven't seen him again since.
@jasonworth6776
3 жыл бұрын
@@WWEStopMotions01 If you create him, then yes. Other than that, no.
@jasonworth6776
3 жыл бұрын
@@WWEStopMotions01 Sorry but I find that hard to believe.
@Seeker_Blade
6 ай бұрын
4 years later: Cody isn’t just in the game. He’s on the cover and WWE Champion
@ramblingrob14
4 жыл бұрын
Yo it’s honestly ridiculous how they released hussan all they had to do was change his gimmick
@Hknasw
4 жыл бұрын
Rambling Rob Yeah thats messed up. They change gimmicks all the time. The guy got screwed
@plshelpmeawkdough
4 жыл бұрын
Rambling Rob it’s not that simple, the man was the most hated heel in America at the time, his face was practically too recognizable to just “change gimmicks”.
@georgecarter1485
4 жыл бұрын
He was Italian wasn't he? I heard somewhere that he was. (correct me if im wrong)
@plshelpmeawkdough
4 жыл бұрын
George Carter he is funny enough
@jakegraham3758
4 жыл бұрын
George Carter he looks blatantly Italian too they just made him portray a terrorist cause he was brown
@85Japan69
4 жыл бұрын
Whoever created the Benoit render in the thumbnail did an amazing job 💯
@pyrowater0186
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Jericho will be back in games when he retires. He is still on okay terms with the company he just wanted more creative control
@Whathappenughh
7 ай бұрын
The fact that a good amount of them are in 2k24 or are DLC for 2k24 is crazy
@charleshern5586
4 жыл бұрын
Jericho said in an interview that he and vince are close friends and when he told vince about aew vince gave his approval....
@franklingoodwin
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. As soon as Chris Jericho is no longer working for AEW he'll be in the WWE Hall of Fame. It might take a while though
@buckinghamcovers4337
4 жыл бұрын
He also said that as soon as he joined AEW Vince asked him if he could get out of the contract he signed with AEW
@prisonmike729
4 жыл бұрын
I know I’ll get some hate but Chris was my favorite wrestler growing up still play him in older games... we should all separate the man we knew from the ring from what happened that sad day. It broke my heart we should at least respect the man that gave us some of the greatest matches in the company’s history.. I blame the CTE that led him to do all that what happened but we should separate his in ring performance from that day I’m not say forgive him but nobody can’t say that man was a damn good wrestler I always imagine what his legacy would be if that day never happened
@Stinkmeaner-_-
4 жыл бұрын
Prison Mike Can’t separate Chris the wrestler to the person that kill two innocent life’s
@Lante216
4 жыл бұрын
SuckaFreeShay right especially with his ring name being his real name
@themadrapper101
4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching him from WCW days..people forget he was a 4 Horsemen
@themadrapper101
4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite matches seeing live was Chris Benoit vs Bret Hart dedicated to Owen on Nitro 1999
@luisrafaelferminmontilla7987
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you and that child murderer. No match or profession is worth the lives of a family. He's a disgrace to the business.
@SSJVegeta2012
4 жыл бұрын
7:26 *Former AEW champion Chris Jericho, and yes make a part 2.
@parknhunt4395
4 жыл бұрын
This should include the following: Dean Ambrose who has been outspoken about his last few months in WWE (Last Appearance was in WWE 2K19). Demolition who were a part of the Class Action Lawsuit (WWE 12). Fabulous Moolah who is controversial due her reputation as a backstage pimp (WWF SD2: KYR). Jimmy Snuka similar situation as Benoit (WWE All Stars). James Ellsworth who gained controversy for sexting a minor (No appearance). Please add more if you can think of any.
@Andulvar
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think this guy is an actual fan of wrestling. He doesn't pay attention to anything.
@TJ52359
4 жыл бұрын
@@parknhunt4395 Ellsworth did what now... i had not heard of that until this post...
@NobleKorhedron
4 жыл бұрын
@@parknhunt4395 What? Moolah was a backstage pimp? How?
@parknhunt4395
4 жыл бұрын
NobleKorhedron Let this explain: m.kzitem.info/news/bejne/0peQyJZ_oX-nm4o (I could have misconstrued it).
@pistnbroke74
2 жыл бұрын
Cody not being in a Wwe game again lol that did not age well
@mbolin686
Жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2023 and 2k23 featured 2 of the 3 people on this list.
@Deadpool_64
4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail looks like a buff Michael from GTA V.
@buckinghamcovers4337
4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I can't unsee it now 😂😂
@elyonkunda6772
4 жыл бұрын
its not that hard to unsee..
@pazz2374
4 жыл бұрын
@matt fahringer stfu fat ass kid and get a life
@pazz2374
4 жыл бұрын
@matt fahringer yea sure kid 😂
@pazz2374
4 жыл бұрын
@matt fahringer ok boomer
@twiggyjohn-johnmerleemondg1754
4 жыл бұрын
Gail Kim Should Be, But Vince Doesn't Really Like Canadians
@ajsgaming83
3 жыл бұрын
why should she be?? She's always slagging of the company
@Dragon7F1
4 жыл бұрын
Scott Steiner won't appear in WWE games because programmers are yet to figure out how to code his opponents chances of winning, especially at PPVs and with Kurt Angle involved.
@kenterminateddq5311
4 жыл бұрын
I understand Martha's pain and situation but I wish she let it go and let WWE celebrate Owen's legacy by putting him in a video game or putting him in their HOF.
@CamaroAmx
4 жыл бұрын
KenTerminatedbyGoogle it’s amazing how a guy could be so pro-wrestling and make a damed good living as one could have a wife who is so against it just because her husband died in a tragic accident. It’s like a widow who lost her husband to a car accident protesting the automobile industry.
@charmingpistolpete5103
4 жыл бұрын
Yea, one would think she’d let it happen so it could help continue his legacy.
@matthewford3447
4 жыл бұрын
CharmingPistol Pete I'm believe at this point Martha doesn't actually care Owen's legacy at all just his money or the money she could make from it if she let the WWE mentioned or show or celebrate his legacy in anyway since she's the one who is keeping the WWE from doing just that and what really sad is her actions rubbed off of her's and Owen's own kids because sadly their sided with their mother on this whole thing with probably not knowing the actually whole story behind it.
@acefreak9561
4 жыл бұрын
Shes a very petty person tells you loads of how much of a bitch she is when another person would had understood that it was accident frankly something that can happen ANYWHERE she instead relegated to fight wwe instead forcing owen to be slowly forgotten if anything i can imagine she tried to milk the situation and sue wwe for compensation but her pettiness has only hurt owens legacy
@michaelj450
4 жыл бұрын
The Overlander I mean is she really wrong for suing WWE for what happened? Owen was just doing his job and it lead to his death. They were responsible for his safety, someone green lit Owen and allowed what happened to happen. Yes Owen was his own man and was allowed to make his own decisions, but he was just doing what he thought was safe and what paid his bills. So he’s gone and she made sure that her family is financially stable. Money can’t replace someone’s life, but they should be held accountable in some type of fashion.
@TJ52359
4 жыл бұрын
Owen: this is all on his Estate, as noted... If the Kids take over control, they could easily reverse course Benoit: DUH (BUT... with his Surviving Son Pursuing a career, who knows... Steiner: I put him in 'Camp Jarrett'... and if his health goes down, the decision moves to his estate, who might welcome teh Royalties (no matter if the 'suck' Cody: Only as long as he has power in AEW... (it took Jarrett 16 years to come back) Animal: Persona non Grata... for Now... and really Ultimately His Value is directly tied to the LOD Faction (IDC what WCW in late 2000 tried to book)... if WWE can't lock down Hawk's estate they have no reason to mend fences w/ Animal (and recursively Animal might 'bend the knee' if doing so sees Hawk's heirs get paid) - to say nothing of WWE having, at last I heard, a Working arrangement with Paul Ellering as well Kim: probably true Raven: IDK... an ECW themed game might see plenty of bridges rebuilt DDP: simply appearing in AEW is hardly punishable by Banishment... has Bret not alternated appearances between both Companies in the last 6 months Y2J: this all comes down to how 'amicable' his actual departure was... plenty of bridges were rebuilt after the Monday Night Wars... no reason to see Scorched Earth applied to 'defend NXT's honor' Hassan... No Offence, I'm sure hes a great guy... but He's Not a Legend. He hasn't gone on to lead/inspire/conquer another company (IIRC he's as retired as retired gets even for Wrestling) ... so even w/o his Gimmick and the associated issues people are hardly clamoring for his inclusion ...
@chasityrichardson8544
4 жыл бұрын
Those kids are not gonna reverse that and rightfully so.
@KINGKONG-zo5gb
4 жыл бұрын
You can tell this video was made before scott steiner collapsed. And btw stardust appeared on wwe2k17.👌👌👌 Keep up the good work.
@aidengalati
9 ай бұрын
Well, Scott Steiner and Cody Rhodes are back in the games! And Cody is on the cover in WWE 2K24.
@WrestlingDude1998
4 жыл бұрын
Cody & Jericho arent really banned. If they ever decide to go back to WWE they'll most likely be put in that years game.
@patriciarockwell2227
4 жыл бұрын
LOL.....DON'T COUNT ON IT!
@patriciarockwell2227
4 жыл бұрын
(p.s. besides---WHY would they even consider going back THERE? Oh yeah, I forgot, the Creative's soo good!)
@WrestlingDude1998
4 жыл бұрын
@@patriciarockwell2227 Probably to make money.
@dantaylor8197
3 жыл бұрын
I also highly doubt that Jericho won’t be put in the HoF after retiring. Man spent twenty years in the WWE and brought them a lot of money in, not to mention being one of the most popular stars they’ve ever had.
@DeusRex02
2 жыл бұрын
@@patriciarockwell2227 lol
@geef917
4 жыл бұрын
I just wish for a great wrestling game. Still nothing beats day of wrecking or smackdown vs raw 2007
@tylergray2506
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain. You're welcome.
@brucebanner5512
4 жыл бұрын
In that clip of Cody being Stardust he looked like Mr.Sinster from X-man
@scottsmith4657
4 жыл бұрын
For me personally wresting died the weekend that Chris Benoit's family did. I watched every episode for years before that but after something had changed, it wasn't an escape from reality anymore because it had become way too real.
@316whatupz
4 жыл бұрын
Owen's last appearance in a video game is Legends of Wrestling Showdown
@captainstar4461
4 жыл бұрын
What he means is his last appearance in a WWE licensed video game
@316whatupz
4 жыл бұрын
@@captainstar4461 True, but still strange to see him in Showdown. Quite unexpected
@fillgollinsdergroarticheme8442
4 жыл бұрын
8:04 wow, even the polygon CAW of DDP I created in WWF Warzone as a kid looked more like the actual DDP than this character ...
@majinstyles145
4 жыл бұрын
I know we will never ever going to see New Jack in any wrestling games
@PapaGatorGaming
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why 🤔
@cerfiedbruhmoment
2 жыл бұрын
I don't like how Chris Benoit was not making his character in WWE game and even Andrew "Test" Martin, even didn't making his character by his own. It's kinda sad how both of em was stuck only that game.
@ThisIsAdam52
4 жыл бұрын
When did you record this? Because you mentioned Cody vs MJF at Revolution, but referred to Jericho as the current AEW champ when mentioning DDP. Was it during the Orange Cassidy match?😂
@darrentaylor9610
4 жыл бұрын
When Benoit died, the wwe was doing a three hour show. This was back when a three hour show was special. They changed the whole show and just did a Benoit tribute before they realized the details of his death.
@filmbuff2777
3 жыл бұрын
WWE should have realised something strange was going on, but they just wanted to profit from the tragedy as fast as possible.
@Sanityangel_
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely want to know how bad the backlash will be if Benoit and Owen get added one day. I especially like to see Benoit in a game again. His professional and technical skills in the ring were outstanding and played key rolls in the company and closes friends Eddie , Kurt and Taker.
@DylanSchaefer
Жыл бұрын
I love Benoit as a performer, don’t agree with the decisions made whatsoever but you can’t can’t change the past, it would be awesome to see Benoit in a WWE video game nowadays with the new graphics and his entrance would look amazing
@bobbyserrano3872
3 жыл бұрын
Actually Owen was mentioned a few times in 2k16 in the video packages for the showcase mode for Stone Cold Steve Augustin
@danielflanagan1203
8 ай бұрын
Funny how Cody is on the cover of 2k24 lol
@trailcysper4094
4 жыл бұрын
0:36 as a 16 year old Retro Gamer..... He'll always be my favorite wrestler
@johnnyphesto1247
4 жыл бұрын
This is dumber than what culture’s “10 wrestlers WWE wants you to forget” which included people who have since returned.
@jojajo301
8 ай бұрын
Who here after Cody Rhodes was named the cover of 2k24
@Skaera75b
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely do a part 2, this was great!
@themadrapper101
4 жыл бұрын
It's a damn shame cause Owen would want his legacy to be carried on and remembered in the way he should be but instead they blacklisted him. Loved him as a kid and still remember the news the night it happened
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, Owen only used the inherited business of pro wrestling as his means to provide for his own family. He wanted to exit the carny world of pro wrestling permanently around the time of his death.
@themadrapper101
4 жыл бұрын
There's a chance he was going to WCW to be with his brother when his contract was up
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
4 жыл бұрын
@@themadrapper101 Very doubtful for a myriad of reasons. 1. Owen's contract was purposely rewritten to prohibit him from jumping ship. 2. The main event stars across both companies (top champions HBK & SCSA in the Fed and the nWo - the original trio of Hollywood Hogan & The Outsiders, particularly - for WCW) either did (as both HBK & SCSA clearly put a halt on Owen's momentum to force him back to mid-card status for the rest of his career) or most likely would've held Owen down (since the New World Order overtook everything & if you weren't in the bloated super group & your name wasn't Diamond Dallas Page, Booker T or Goldberg, you weren't anything of value to WCW). In other words, Owen in WCW simply wouldn't have been any different than WCW's woeful mismanagement of his fellow Hart Foundation brethren post-Montreal Screwjob, except Owen might have been unfortunately booked on a lower level program (i.e. on WCW Pro, WCW Worldwide & WCW Saturday Night instead of Monday Night Nitro & Thursday Night Thunder) merely because Owen was always trapped in the shadow of his more successful big brother (Wrestlemania 10's wrestling clinic card opener, notwithstanding) & his honest, family man values went under the radar in comparison to the cocaine-fueled backstage exploits of the other 2 members of the fractured wrestling dynasty. 3. Owen never saw pro wrestling as his primary job choice. Unlike his ex-wrestler promoter father Stu or his older brothers (namely Bret & Bruce, as Keith was more of a background center guard to Bret's quarterback, Bruce's linebacker & Owen's fallback to use American football as an analogy), who ate, slept & breathed the family industry, Owen was essentially unwillingly bred into it begrudgingly by his heritage as the youngest of the legendary Hart-Smith-Billington family tree & subsequently inheriting the wrestling talent from pure genetics alone. To put it more accurately, all of the grand allure & over-hyped spectacle behind the gritty, seedy inner workings of pro wrestling was just a means to an end for Owen, with that ultimate goal being to provide for his young wife & 2 children until he finally felt that he had saved enough money from being thrifty & frugal to retire early from the overblown carnival nonsense that is this profession & happily live out the rest of his days doing good for others as a local Calgary civil servant (either as a schoolteacher educationally molding future minds or as a ground zero firefighter working street level to alleviate his established fear of heights) meanwhile also maintaining his charitable, humanitarian efforts But, of course, as we''re all aware, this wasn't to be, sadly, as Owen was never truly able to escape the literal death grip the industry had on his life & his embittered widow Martha, by all accounts, is in her every right to not allow the petty people legally liable/directly responsible/at fault/to blame for Owen's pointlessly preventable passing to make any sort of monetary gain off of her devoted husband & the children's doting dad since the company's negligent stupidity is the principal reason why Owen isn't here with us right now, but is instead having heavenly 6-star classics with other noteworthy greats who are no longer with us like "Latino Heat" Eddie Guerrero, "Ravishing" Rick Rude & "Macho Man" Randy Savage.
@filmbuff2777
3 жыл бұрын
No, I don't think Owen would want his wife & children to be treated like crap for 20 years by the scum company responsible for his death. I don't think he'd rather be remembered on some pathetic internet page that didn't exist when he died (which is WWE's HOF, that nobody gave a crap about in 1999).
@daltonbelcher5510
4 жыл бұрын
Owen Hart died at Over The Edge 1999, not 1998.
@Nobody-bp5wh
3 жыл бұрын
4:32 Stardust is also in 2K17, actually. I only know because it's the most recent WWE game I have, and I've been playing it a lot recently. I can see why you'd forget, though, given what they'd done to him by then...
@KillerKrieg
4 жыл бұрын
It's funny this list includes people who are simply vocally anti-wwe at present and left poorly while itself acknowledging how surprisingly so many people who we thought would never come back for the same reasons ultimately did. The only true candidates for this list are Owen and Chris.
@Kenji183
4 жыл бұрын
You do know Vince gave Jericho permission to go to aew right I mean chris has mentioned that Vince waived the 90 day no compete clause for him so man you need to go watch some Jericho vids
@BlaxkSun
4 жыл бұрын
How you bring up Revolution and bring up the Cody vs MJF match but still call Jericho Champion🤔
@patriciarockwell2227
4 жыл бұрын
When that match between Cody/MJF took place Jericho still WAS the champion! (It was during the last match that Moxley won the belt.)
@QuitDueToLag
4 жыл бұрын
@@patriciarockwell2227 so you're telling me that this video was written, edited and uploaded between the 2 matches? Get real
@PrimevalDemon
Жыл бұрын
"Royalties suck" I too, hate getting money through passive existence.
@alec2000
4 жыл бұрын
I miss Chris Benoit. I wish we can see him again in a game one day.😢
@Sh0tgunJust1ce
4 жыл бұрын
@Balla Bayside I don't think Benoit was a pedophile. Not that there's any defending him, but yeah, be accurate with your accusations.
@invaliduser9397
4 жыл бұрын
Alec - Benoit didn't do nothing wrong.
@invaliduser9397
4 жыл бұрын
@@Sh0tgunJust1ce Benoit is innocent
@invaliduser9397
4 жыл бұрын
@Balla Bayside He isn't a child killing pedo, you brainless twatwaffle. You know NOTHING
@alec2000
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the love, guys. Thank you for defending him with me. You all rock.
@HunterPhenomMakoy
8 ай бұрын
That Cody prediction sure aged like warm milk. 😂
@bestmoments7587
4 жыл бұрын
At 4:34 correction his last game was WWE2k17
@kyokari4
Жыл бұрын
Now that steiner is in the HOF with his brother, we can assume his segment is outdated.
@GamerLegend.97
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Benoit to never be any WWE game ever again sounds good because the games are getting worse right now
@Stinkmeaner-_-
4 жыл бұрын
Alberto Garcia even if the game was good he still won’t be in the game
@GamerLegend.97
4 жыл бұрын
@@Stinkmeaner-_- i understand why because it going to be 2 decades since he killed his wife kid and himself
@poveliksum3641
4 жыл бұрын
So true
@oshoosho2048
4 жыл бұрын
it been almost 13 year i still cant belive that chris is no more with us he is one of the guy with 0 haters R.I.P
@davehoffmaster1073
4 жыл бұрын
I feel you! R.I.P. Chris Benoit. I still don't believe what they say happened. It just all doesn't make any sense.
@ashtonfitzgerald1445
3 жыл бұрын
@@davehoffmaster1073 you’re right, Chris didn’t do anything, Vince, Shane, hunter, steff, they did it, they killed Benoit, and his family...they should’ve never let him use that dammed flying headbutt..they should have banned it..all those chair shots to the head it wasn’t right Chris is and was a good man a great lovely man he would of never done any of that sadly he devolved CTE and Alzheimer’s a really really bad case of Alzheimer’s he had the brain of an 85 year old man with Alzheimer’s.
@spencer2745
4 жыл бұрын
I think we will see Jericho back in a WWE game one day. I can see him being a Pre Order bonus for a future game down the road
@PROEVOLUTION1
4 жыл бұрын
Never going to happen that. Vince would never going to digest the thing that Jericho is first ever AEW champion
@spencer2745
4 жыл бұрын
@@PROEVOLUTION1 Vince is running out of Headliners for the HOF so it's gonna happen. Plus Vince is the one who told Jericho to sign with AEW till Jericho did then Vince asked can you get out of it
@dylanjennings7376
4 жыл бұрын
PRO EVOLUTION if it comes to that point when HHH and Steph take over they would put Jericho in the hall let’s just be honest I personally think Jericho is the GOAT in wrestling but that’s opinion but for WWE to not put in one of the top 10-20 wrestlers they’ve ever had would be stupid
@_radical.snowflake_7185
4 жыл бұрын
@@PROEVOLUTION1 2k and Vince are separate with contracts, if 2k wanted to they could put Jericho on the cover, except Vince definitely has influence though but 2k possibly could.
@PROEVOLUTION1
4 жыл бұрын
@@_radical.snowflake_7185 2k seperate company but they have their contracts with wwe. So they can't add someone that wwe doesn't want to put in their game. After all it is wwe game
@sidhoule5718
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Benoit's moves, signatures, finishers, taunts, and entrance walks are still available when you in creative mode.
@titansbeats3483
2 жыл бұрын
And I have a custom character on 2k19 and with his moves only sad part they couldn't get them to say his name correctly but entrance is pretty dam close move sets perfect he gets said Chris Benoit but in a weird was but on this video the you tuber blocks his name getting said or so I think
@shadowno2298
4 жыл бұрын
What about sabu? He shit tallked vince and was never seen since SVR 08
@CHAOTIXMaddLass
4 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when your watching this video for the first time and aew already revealed that the exhalted one was luke Harper (Brodie lee)
@rahidk9514
4 ай бұрын
didnt aged well
@flyguyelii
4 жыл бұрын
put cryme tyme back in the games after the passing of shad 🙏🏾 . If you grew up playing SVR you know you played as them
@chasityrichardson8544
4 жыл бұрын
I did not
@rellikninotores4628
4 жыл бұрын
Owen Hart belongs in HOF.
@matthewford3447
4 жыл бұрын
Reliik Ninotores Blame his window Martha since she's the one who doesn't want the WWE to show, mentioned, or celebrate his legacy in anyway.
@justme-ti1rh
4 жыл бұрын
Just as much as Koko b Ware.
@rellikninotores4628
4 жыл бұрын
@@justme-ti1rh Ya they were a tag team, but tbh I have no memories of no no except the parrot
@markcollins6635
4 жыл бұрын
Not being in a WWE video game is like not being in a gruesome car crash.
@laststar3966
4 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace to all LEGENDS
@Adams2-22-22
4 жыл бұрын
Cody Rhodes last game was in 2k17 as Stardust not 2k16. He had still been in the company in 2016 when 2k17 was released on October 11, 2016. Even tho he Cody left in May 2016,2k kept his model in the game.
@Dynamite05v2
2 жыл бұрын
3:47 aged like milk
@gl0starzent583
4 жыл бұрын
All of them are straight legends and cody last time being on a video game was 2k17
@MidnightPodcast
4 жыл бұрын
Um, Jericho lost the title yeah? LMAO !
@NapoIeoneBuonaparte
4 жыл бұрын
Owen actually died in 99' not 98' He was being held by a dodgy trigger shackle with a pull pin not a snap shackle like many people belive
@KenOverLone
4 жыл бұрын
I felt bad for Chris If only he was in today's roster and was alive
@basilnoah8596
4 жыл бұрын
Well even if he didn't those bad stuff he still would've died almost a year later
@backofdaboatyaya5301
3 жыл бұрын
@@basilnoah8596 for what?
@basilnoah8596
3 жыл бұрын
@@backofdaboatyaya5301 he had an enlarged heart so he would have died anyway
@SMScorx89
3 жыл бұрын
DDP, Chris Jericho, and The Road Warriors could still show up in a future WWE title. However, that will be a long time from now.
@randycrawford1132
4 жыл бұрын
Gail Kim is retired with TNA so it doesn’t matter because she’s happy
@plasmus100
4 жыл бұрын
Randy Crawford is she , because she can’t go a day without bashing Wwe.
@KasumiRINA
4 жыл бұрын
I think games are perfect places for retired wrestlers to always be at their prime and get dropped from the cell without consequences))) Hopefully, one of the non-WWE promotions picks up a 3D game series, and it will likely have collabs with other promos because they do that all time IRL.
@ze-panda
4 жыл бұрын
Stardust's theme song was lit as hell tho
@TheKingdomofMashups1033
11 ай бұрын
So about scott steiner...
@Fbe_0203
Жыл бұрын
WrestleGamia:- Cody Rhodes will never show up in wwe or any of their video games WrestleMania 38 and wwe 2k23:- hold my beer
@DylanSchaefer
Жыл бұрын
Owen Hart is now in AEW Fight Forever Scott Steiner is in WWE 2k23 as DLC Cody Rhodes is in WWE 2k23 since his return
@leonardoronald1377
3 жыл бұрын
1) Chavo Guerrero - a close friend of Benoit- told WWE magazine that he talked to Chris for while on Friday night on his house phone. About 45 minutes into the conversation, Chris told him that there was somebody knocking at his door and he was going to see who it was. Shortly after Chris answered the door, there was a “scuffle” and then his house phone line went dead. Chris could only be reached on his cell phone about 3 hours later. This is very significant. This explains why there was no forced entry. Chris let the killer or killers in. 2) After Chavo reached Chis on his cell phone, he said that Chris sounded very odd, groggy and tired. He also said that Chris told him “I Love You Chavo” which sounded forced. The WWE also said that when Chris called in and told them that Nancy and Daniel were sick he did not sound like himself. He sounded groggy. Chris then said “I Love You” which they say was out of context because he usually didn’t say this. 3) Chris Benoit’s cell phone is missing. The police cannot find his cell phone or the needles they say Chris used to inject himself with steroids shortly before he died. The police have turned his cell phone off. 4) Chris was not hanging from the weight machine, he was laying on the floor underneath the machine. Another officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine. 5) There was a white cloth wrapped around Chris’ neck. If he was so suicidal why would he care if his neck was bruised? 6) The medical examiner says that Chris Benoit died on Saturday. The text messages were sent on Sunday. Chris was already dead so who sent the text messages? It is noted that nobody talked to Chris on Sunday. 7) The steroids found in Chris’ house were not in his body. 8) If Chris’ had murdered his family then why did he need to text people? Think about it. Everybody was dead. Nobody would hear him talking so why text? Calling would have been easier. (I believe the killer text Benoit’s address to get somebody to come to the house to find the bodies) 9) Chris sent Chavo a text message telling him his address. Why would he do this? Chavo already knew were Chris lived. He spent the previous weekend with him. 10) Chris’ body was badly de- composed, about the same as Nancy’s. This shows he died sooner than Sunday. 11) Why would he tie up Nancy to kill her? He was a big guy. He could have just hit her one good time and she would have been out. 12) Ray also told me that the world press is reporting the manner of the deaths wrong. He says that Daniel was shot in his head and Nancy was shot in her chest. 13) Chavo said that the Chris Benoit seemed “worried” about something but he could not get Chris to open up and tell him why he was worried. 14) There was no Bible besides Chris’ body. Why would he place a bible beside Nancy and Daniel and not place one beside his own if he knew he was about to take his own life? 15) There were 10 empty beer cans and an empty body of wine besides Chris’ body. He tested negative for alcohol. 16) The toxicology confirmed that Chris had Hydrocodone (pain killer) Xanex (anti-anxiety drug). I have used both of these. These 2 drugs combined will sedate Chris and make him very sleepy. So he could not fight back. 17) The police originally said that Daniel died on Friday because his body was badly de-composing. This supports my belief that all 3 died on Friday night. The police changed the manner of Daniel’s death 3 times. 1st he died from a garbage bag, 2nd he died from a choke hold, 3rd he was smothered by a pillow. Why would they keep changing? 18) The police kept changing the location of where Nancy’s body was found. 1st she was found in the downstairs family room. 2nd she was found in the upstairs bedroom. 3rd she was found in the house office. 19) Chris’ father said that Chris called him on father’s day and told him that he wished he could spend more time with his family but he had to work. One of Nancy’s friend says that Nancy Loved Chris and she had no plans to leave him. 20) Retired Wrestler Bam Bam Bigalow died 1-19-07. Sherry Martel died 6-15-07. The Benoit family died 6-22-07. Since this family died, 2 other wrestlers have died. (Brian Adams and Johnny Crush in July and August 07) Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Brian Pillman all died the night before they were set to win title belts. Sherry Martel’s death is even more suspicious to me. Sherry Martel had ties to Nancy Benoit’s ex-husband Kevin Sullivan. The circumstances surrounding her death have not been released. 21) Kevin Sullivan told Chris Benoit that he would kill him. Kevin is currently a high ranking member of a satanic cult. Kevin is also on the WWE Board of Directors. Kevin Sullivan also had motive to kill Daniel Benoit because he was Chris and Nancy’s offspring. Retired wrestler Dusty Roads said that “he danced with the devil” when working with Kevin Sullivan who is known as being Cold-hearted and conniving. The Benoit family was murdered on the 10-year anniversary of Nancy’s divorce from Kevin Sullivan. 22) Nancy Benoit’s death was posted on the internet, 14 hours before her body was found. 23) Weeks before he died, Chris Benoit’s colleagues said that Chris began taking alternate routes to and from work and back to his house. Chris and Nancy believed that somebody was following them. Chris’ friends dismissed his worries as paranoia. 24) The Benoit family was murdered the same week that the WWE had a story line of “Who killed Vince McMahon.” 25) many say it is because of anabolic steroids, anabolic steroids do not have the effect of paranoia or any illegal drug, anabolic is the same as asking the bolt if he would like to run a little more, it is like a medicine for someone who has insomnia to sleep, anabolic increases blood flow and tostosteronia and swells the muscle 26) many fighters including friends and family realized that chris did not overcome and was very bad with the death of eddie guerreo, and because wwe did nothing to help you out? 27) despite the depression that benoit was already at wwe at the time, he allowed strong iron chairs on his head and the doctor said that benoit's cerebo was like that of an 85 year old man with alzheimer's and because wwe never discovered it when he was alive ? 28) how did a FAN manage to tamper with the WWE SET computer? 29) he was found remitted from drowsiness in the 3 bodies of chris he would commit suicide because he would take medicine? 30)chavo received a message the dogs are in the closed area of the pool and the garage door is open and then received a message only with the address of chris and chavo knew where chris lived someone sent this message saying that the garage door is open and sent the address for someone to go there and blame Chris Chris Benoit is innocet R.I.P Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit's😞😞😞😥😥😥😞😞😥😥😥😥😥
@demonic-deadbeat3212
4 жыл бұрын
Haha - Jokes on You I have Benoit, Owen Hart, & Cody Rhodes in 2K19. lmfao
@darebyus
4 жыл бұрын
Created or upload charector ?
@demonic-deadbeat3212
4 жыл бұрын
@@darebyus They were other people's creations that I downloaded.
@demonic-deadbeat3212
4 жыл бұрын
@matt fahringer Umm yes it does They look like themselves there entrances are there but I don't have there Entrance Theme's. lol So if I created them myself then it would count? You must've just woke up because that is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. lmao.. I'm laughing at you btw 👍
@demonic-deadbeat3212
4 жыл бұрын
@matt fahringer Still laughing at you. LMFAO
@KixVux
4 жыл бұрын
Demonic-Deadbeat They don’t count because they’re created superstars and the game graphics are so bad that the face looks weird.
@dagoatguti451
7 ай бұрын
This aged well
@paulgill9989
4 жыл бұрын
Still milking that Benoit angle eh, classy, let it die.
@big._.boss0887
2 жыл бұрын
4:35 not 2k16, cody’s Last apperance was in wwe 2k17
@dagd1238
2 жыл бұрын
Cody rhodes in wwe 2023
@TheDrCrazed
4 жыл бұрын
Wwe has actually slowly been allowing the benoit name back in, starting off with his son as he has talked about his father Chris possibly going into the hall of fame.
@mrmeatwhip1388
4 жыл бұрын
He was very briefly shown in the recent Ruthless Agression documentary on the WWE Network, but he wasnt mentioned. So maybe they will eventually but not for a long time.
@KasumiRINA
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrmeatwhip1388 I think the main reason WWE censor him is to avoid their share of responsibility, same thing with Owen Hart. They don't want it brought up with in the light of all lawsuits.
@mrmeatwhip1388
4 жыл бұрын
@@KasumiRINA Well that and its extremely controversial. I mean there would be tones of mixed opinions if he were to be in the Hall Of Fame. I think Owen Should be though he was brilliant and didn't do anything to not be in there. At least to my knowledge. But I think his family dont want him mentioned because it was a mistake with WWE as to why he died.....
@twiggyjohn-johnmerleemondg1754
4 жыл бұрын
Owen Hart Should Be Regardless Of His Wife And Brothers Animosity Towards Vince And The Wwe
@chasityrichardson8544
4 жыл бұрын
Nope it would be highly disrespectful and a slam dunk of a lawsuit.
@filmbuff2777
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Bret "Misgynist" Hart is frequently advocating for WWE to "celebrate" Owen & saying terrible things about his widow. He has made it clear he wants her dead because the stupid old has been thinks that will automatically let WWE be able to profit off of her dead husband, even though their children is also against them exploiting their dead father for profit. WWE only care about using Owen to make money. Bret has also frequently said he wants to get his favourite thug Dynamite Kid into the WWE HOF. A low life that frequently beat his wife nearly to death & held a shot gun to her head. Human decency is not one of Bret Hart's strong points.
@tsstevensts
4 жыл бұрын
Owen was in one game since his death, WWF Attitude. The game was virtually released at the time and he could have been taken out but he got through.
@316whatupz
4 жыл бұрын
Owen is in Legends of Wrestling Showdown
@caseycarpenter303
4 жыл бұрын
Well I’m sure when AEW goes under all those AEW guys will be back
@patriciarockwell2227
4 жыл бұрын
First of all, AEW's NOT gonna go 'under'---they're one of the fastest rising promotions there is. Secondly, WHO in hell would want to work for that old senile out-of-touch bastard and his cronies at Titan Tower??!! :/ :(
@qbincashion8058
2 жыл бұрын
@@patriciarockwell2227 Cody Rhodes
@JacobWaller
4 жыл бұрын
There were rumors that suggested wrestlers working with AEW would be blacklisted by WWE. Wrestling legend DDP quelched those rumors. ... He took to Twitter and revealed that WWE did not blacklist any performer for working in AEW. He merely wanted to help Cody Rhodes, but he will be there for WWE when needed
@lujoviste
4 жыл бұрын
Some of the the thing you say really dont make no sense bro. And you can definetaly hear the AEW bias
@zackattack125
4 жыл бұрын
Actually cody last appearance was in 2k17 as stardust
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