This is amazing. It's the ONLY good Presbyterian pastor's discussion of Baptism I've EVER seen
@RevDonBaker
13 күн бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I’m honored! I really appreciate your focus on the sacraments. It’s one of those areas the Reformed are so rich in that has sadly been deemphasized.
@darrenlee1480
14 сағат бұрын
My bro Redeemed Zoomer, River Devereux, New Kingdom Media, a Reformed Calvinist Anglican also argues using covenant theology in his video that the Holy Spirit regenerates infants using water baptism as an instrument, but chronologically the regeneration could take place either, before, during, and after water baptism. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uIhvqY2wnX5koYosi=1PKKGM29Zq6EQw1F What are your thoughts on this? Would this be in line with what u believe in?
@KaptainKLamity
14 сағат бұрын
Can we expect a video on the reformed view of the Eucharist as well?
@RevDonBaker
13 сағат бұрын
@@KaptainKLamity Absolutely that’s coming!
@loganpeck5084
Күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm convinced this is just about the only video on the internet talking about the reformed view of baptismal efficacy from the confessional perspective.
@loganpeck5084
23 сағат бұрын
Honestly thank you so much for this. I have no idea why this topic seems neglected in much of the Reformed perspective in the US. Your clothing analogy is also used by Paul in Galatians 3.
@unit2394
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I am not Presbyterian, but Lutheran; however, I am constantly talking to my Presbyterian friends about the fact that the traditional Reformed view of Baptismal efficacy does mean that Baptism saves. We do not believe the same thing, but our actual traditions are closer on this than many think.
@RevDonBaker
Ай бұрын
@@unit2394 There is much more overlap between Lutherans and the Reformed on the Sacraments than there is between the Reformed and most Baptists.
@unit2394
Ай бұрын
@@RevDonBaker indeed. I actually grew up Baptist, then spent three years in conservative Presbyterian Churches here in the US, but was ultimately dissatisfied and became a Lutheran. None of those churches taught anything like this, but since learning more about their confessions, I see that they should have. That’s why even though I now believe Lutheranism to be the closest tradition to Scripture, I still hope and pray to see these teachings about the Sacraments return to Presbyterian churches. I pray God blesses you and your church!
@sarahd5341
Ай бұрын
Helpful video, thank you!
@reformedholycannoli
Ай бұрын
Excellent video! I love how you actually went through the whole idea before you just straight up said baptism saves.
@ClauGutierrezY
Күн бұрын
Orthodox Anglicanism also believe in baptismal efficacy (regeneration)... Just saying
@PurifyingSinner
22 сағат бұрын
The thing is. Now you have a diploma of salvation without taking the classes, so now you ought to learn what you got freely. No one earns salvation because of how evil people are. But the Messiah has given this opportunity, life, to follow Him. Sinful beings cannot be in the Kingdom. If the Kingdom is now, we are screwed.
@johnrainwater3885
19 сағат бұрын
I’m a Oneness Pentecostal. Do you (and most prebytarians) believe that John 3:5 “born of water” is a water baptism reference?
@RevDonBaker
19 сағат бұрын
@@johnrainwater3885 From what I’ve read, not all but many. For myself, yes, I’d say it’s a reference to baptism. Though one could be born of Spirit without water but never water and not the Spirit. As in the video, the two are ordinarily together.
@johnrainwater3885
18 сағат бұрын
@@RevDonBaker ok cool, thanks for your video, really enjoyed the line “baptism is not something that you do, but grace from Christ that you receive” or something. If you’re ever curious about the Oneness Pentecostal view of the Godhead, “the Oneness of Jesus Christ” by David K. Bernard is the best and most efficient representation of the doctrine I personally have come across
@RevDonBaker
18 сағат бұрын
@@johnrainwater3885 My latest video touches on Trinitarian issues that would be good to watch. While we agree that God is one, we recognize the distinctiveness of the Persons.
@jwc380
Күн бұрын
Question: (this is not a trick) Mormons, JW’s, COC in fact most if not all restoration churches baptise….Where do their baptisms sit in this framework? If they come to a true understanding of faith in Christ solely, do they get re baptised or no?
@RevDonBaker
18 сағат бұрын
@@jwc380 Generally speaking baptisms done in the name of the trinity we would consider them to be valid baptisms. Non-trinitarian baptisms, however, are by definition not Christian baptism.
@FaithfulDiscipleOfTheKing
15 сағат бұрын
Mormons and JW's are not Trinitarian, so they cannot baptize with the authority of the true God. Church of Christ is Trinitarian as far as I know, so their baptism is valid. A valid baptism needs to be done in a Trinitarian formula, not depending on the piety of the minister.
@darrenlee1480
Күн бұрын
Does baptism regenerates elect infants?
@RevDonBaker
15 сағат бұрын
There was the Westminster Divine named Cornelius Burges who wrote “Presumptive Regeneration or The Baptismal Regeneration of Elect Infants.” In it he writes, “It is most agreeable to the institution of Christ, that all elect infants that are baptized, (unless in some extraordinary cases) ordinarily receive from Christ, the Spirit in baptism, for their first solemn initiation into Christ, and for their future actual renovation, in God’s good time, if they live to years of discretion, and enjoy the other ordinary means of grace appointed to this end.” However, it’s not exactly the same as baptismal regeneration. In the Reformed understanding, baptism doesn’t cause regeneration but applies it. It’s a slight difference but essentially in the Lutheran view baptism is logically prior to the regeneration in that it can create faith. In the Reformed view, it’s logically after regeneration in that it’s received by faith and then seals and applies what’s received. It’s more common to find in Reformed theology the idea that elect infants are ordinarily regenerated form birth and so have the benefits sealed in baptism. In Calvin’s “Antidote to the Articles Agreed Upon By the Faculty of Sacred Theology of Paris” he writes, “We ought, therefore, to hold that, as in Abraham, the father of the faithful, the righteousness of faith preceded circumcion. So in the children of the faithful, in the present day, the gift of adoption is prior to baptism. According to the words of promise, ‘I will be a God to thy seed (Gen. 17:7) Baptism, however, is a confirmation of this gift, and a help to our faith.”
@darrenlee1480
14 сағат бұрын
@@RevDonBaker thank you for your reply. Just to follow up with your comment, btw I'm not a presbyterian, but I'm a reformed (Calvinist) Anglican that holds to a higher sacramental view. In the WCF 28.6, it says the efficacy of baptism is not tied to the moment of time wherein it is administered, but by the right use of baptism...the grace offered is given by the Holy Spirit, to such (whether of age or infants)...at God's appointed time. Would the view that, the Holy Spirit uses water baptism as an instrument to confer grace (aka regeneration) to elect infants but this regeneration could happen, either before, during, or after administration be one of the valid interpretations of WCF 28.6? River Devereux, New Kingdom Media, a Reformed Calvinist Anglican also argues using covenant theology in his video that the Holy Spirit regenerates infants using water baptism as an instrument, but chronologically the regeneration could take place either, before, during, and after water baptism. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uIhvqY2wnX5koYosi=1PKKGM29Zq6EQw1F
@darrenlee1480
14 сағат бұрын
@@RevDonBaker River Devereux, New Kingdom Media, is a reformed Anglican holding to Calvinism view of predestination and covenant theology, argues that the Spirit regenerates elect infants through water baptism, but chronologically the efficacy of regeneration could take place before, during, and after water baptism. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uIhvqY2wnX5koYosi=MTn7Z4BloLCmGwwY
@RevDonBaker
6 сағат бұрын
@@darrenlee1480 Just watched the video and loved it. I agreed with most of what he said and it was refreshing to hear someone lay it out so clearly. I’ll have to look more into the way Reformed Anglicans speak on it as it would seem that while there’s a lot of overlap there may be difference in approach. For example when he mentioned the “judgment of charity,” that’s often been called “presumptive regeneration.” It’s a view more common in earlier Reformed figures but has since fallen out of fashion-though it’s what I hold to. It really depends on how we define the terms.
@petergouvignon8048
Ай бұрын
Act 2:38 ISV Peter answered them, “Every one of you must repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus the Messiah for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. Act 2:41 ISV So those who welcomed his message were baptized. That day about 3,000 people were added to their number. Act 2:4 ISV All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in foreign languages as the Spirit gave them that ability. Were they baptized by water or by the Spirit?
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