*_Legends say that, soviet 37th tank division is still standing there_*
@marksummers463
4 жыл бұрын
And the 15th is still looking for them.
@TheImperatorKnight
7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Flow86767
6 жыл бұрын
You made a video about this battle =)
@michaelhawkins1528
6 жыл бұрын
@@Flow86767 did he ? I can't find it in his channel. :(
@tank007ist
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about your video the whole time watching this haha.
@chrisbricky7331
2 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for sharing. I have studied the fighting on the Eastern Russian front quite heavily and this is the best description of what happened in this area. The germans hid this battle because of their high losses, the Soviets hid this battle because of their high losses. So its amazing we even know this much. Chris
@jankutac9753
11 ай бұрын
So Pz 2 was patentky apparently useless. T 26 and BT 7 were also apparently useless. So it follows pz 2 vs T 26 or BT 7 was probably a quite interesting duel
@briankorbelik2873
Ай бұрын
The Germans were actually very honest about things, even losses. Hell, how do you think that much of the info that got a number of Germans hanged at the Nuremberg trials. It was the Nazis own records. They may be murdering psychotics, but they kept good books and records.
@antiochusiiithegreat7721
7 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that most of the german tanks had radio equipment unlike the Soviets in 1941 played a major role in this battle.
@oddballsok
7 жыл бұрын
and air supremacy...and tested tactical doctrines
@kreigdernier9553
7 жыл бұрын
Aidan Christy the best russia ever could muster was one in 5 tanks having radios
@captainclone1367
7 жыл бұрын
I think you got that backwards!! The Germans had radios and the Soviets didn't!
@MrMenefrego1
7 жыл бұрын
That is what he said.
@CDMJDMHHC
7 жыл бұрын
do not forget training and supplies.
@yereverluvinuncleber
7 жыл бұрын
The BTs were not junk, they were decent tanks badly handled using poor doctrine. Any tank used well can have an effect. They were simply thrown away in frontal charges.
@brucetutton7897
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They would have been devastating against unsupported infantry and soft vehicles
@EgoAlters
7 жыл бұрын
The 45mm Tank gun 20-K of the BT 5s & 7s and the T-26 penetrated every AFV the Germans had in 1941.
@JuergenGDB
5 жыл бұрын
True.... however the problem with the Christie suspension is that it taxed the crew greatly. I have been in modern tanks and being on the march for 6 hours... is exhausting, and that is in a M1-A1 and the M60 Patton (Modernized) USMC.
@timothyhofmeister1832
4 жыл бұрын
oposite situation with panthers, tigers, or kvs. they were impenetrable, but if they aren't used right, they are not effective at all. any tank without infantry protection is an easy target no matter how good of a tank it is. its not about how good the tank is, it's about how it's used that counts. easily to visualize in German equipment. they had inferior weapons and armor for a good chunk of the war, but they had excellent tactical doctrine, and knew how to use their weaponry, so they excelled.
@herbertpetrillo485
3 жыл бұрын
By tank? Wasn't that the tank where wheels could be put on instead of tracks? I think it was the bt...i may me mistaken. , but I know the communists designed. A tank to go on roads....as the communists were going to attack Europe eventually....thank God. they were forstalled
@nobody-minus1341
5 жыл бұрын
This is extremely late, but the Panzer IV you show at the beginning of the video would be an Ausf. H or later given its 80 mm frontal armor and KwK 40 L/48 gun. These would not enter production until 1943 (And was basically the most advanced version of the Pz IV since the J would actually remove capabilities). The most modern Pz IV at Dubno-Brody would be the Ausf. F1, which had 50 mm of frontal armor and the much smaller KwK 37 L/24 gun.
@drin-hvac842
4 жыл бұрын
this battle is so rarely spoken about
@RobbyHouseIV
6 жыл бұрын
The huge losses that the Germans sustained in armor (200 out of 289) most probably were of the kind that after some maintenance from the mechanics corps (replacements from their traveling spare parts depot, armor plate patchwork, etc.) many of these reported losses would have been quickly returned to the field. Barbarossa was still in its infancy when Dubno-Brody occurred and the Germans would still have many more spectacular, historic feats of mechanized warfare triumphs before the whole German Juggernaut was grinded down to its halt miles from the Soviet capital by the end of '41. There would have been no way they could have achieved all that they did if the high casualties suffered at Brody-Dubno and countless other armored clashes throughout the summer and fall weren't quickly mitigated by rehabilitating their armor following these engagements.
@Yak9741
7 жыл бұрын
I love your way of breaking down the battles move by move. Thorough and well researched. I hope you'll hit the other fronts and maybe even other wars in the future.
@jasonharry645
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video , Russian t34 76 were good for 100miles originally and all the manoeuvring sounds like it wore them out, most of the delivered t34 76 were ordered not to be used so crews had no training on them, hence I suppose high losses. They found a good and honourable fight but the Russian commanders let them down , it must of been a complete horror. RIP brave souls
@dealzjawalha2448
7 жыл бұрын
Hey man your stuff is actually really good, you need far more views than you actually have.
@danmorgan3685
7 жыл бұрын
It is worth noting that a Soviet Corp was actually closer to a division sized formation. The Soviets had a tendency to over rate their units when it came to size.
@takirid
7 жыл бұрын
Germans were a lot more organized, and they had radio communication. Most Soviets tanks had no radios' they were basically fighting blind, Soviet communication was through the use of using flag signals while standing atop of their tanks which is of no use against an enemy that has radio communication. that's is why they, the Soviets suffered heavy losses.
@michaelhoward7635
6 жыл бұрын
takiri dixon also the Germans had the air, meaning the Russians had little oversight of the battlefield anyways
@jasonharryphotog
2 жыл бұрын
The early shells were of poor quality , optics not as good and poor service life, imagine the deep joy of being a tanker , enjoy the next six weeks at best
@ChernobylPizza
7 жыл бұрын
The Soviet BT and even the lowly T26 had 45mm guns capable of piercing the armor of German Panzer IIs and Panzer 35/38s. In capable hands with proper maintenance these tanks may have destroyed more German tanks than they did in practice.
@EgoAlters
7 жыл бұрын
The 45mm 20-K gun of the BT 5s and 7s and the T-26 could penetrate every German AFV of 1941. Hardly "useless junk", or which ever phrase the narrator used to describe them.
@EgoAlters
6 жыл бұрын
Read my comment again. With some thought this time. Both sides had AFVs that could kill the opponent's AFVs at combat ranges, an AFV is not "useless junk" if it can perform its intended role. It boiled down to tactics. The Soviets had 20,000 AFVs in June -41, the 3rd Reich had 3000 (including p1s and 2s). The Germans traded 1 AFV for every 6 Soviet ones destroyed in 1941. Not because they had better tanks, but because they had better tactical level and operational level leadership. (On a side note: the BT 7 had 40mm frontal hull armor, and the armor on the T26 ranged widly depending the variant m.33 = 15mm, m.39/S. = 25mm, m.40/E. = 50mm. )
@Direwoof
2 жыл бұрын
poorly trained crews with poor morale, teh german tanks look very much more imposing even though they weren't at the time.
@o.osuq-madiq2008
6 жыл бұрын
TIK sent me. This channel is sick af. Subbed!
@Kriegter
5 жыл бұрын
I think im not the only one to find out he called the rear of a KV1 ass
@oldtamilcinema
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome and novel content. Very few people focus on content creation in these smaller battles. Great job.
@stanfoltz2339
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, your stuff is great, liked and subscribed! You should have way more than 5k views. Keep up the good work and cheers to you from Virginia
@nikodemdyzma9330
7 жыл бұрын
You overrating german tank armor, front plate 80mm???????side 30? There waa many older Iv/III with old 30 mm front armor often fitted with addidtional plate of 20mm. Germs had great tactics and most important...radio. many t34 were suffered from many damages like transmission etc and had no radio
@Wallyworld30
5 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Have you retired it for good? No new uploads in a full year? WW2 is making a huge comeback with it's 80 year anniversary maybe time to start uploading again?
@ConradMcBad
6 жыл бұрын
Great series here. Would be great to see a similar one done about Operation Bagration.
@jasonharryphotog
2 жыл бұрын
Good video That’s what happens when you get rid of your experienced officers and poor communication mixed with other problems , must of been hell
@grafspee45440
4 жыл бұрын
I see the 37th Corp is pulling the old Drax maneuver. Very interesting.
@conceptalfa
Жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thanks!!!👍👍👍
@lipan2757
7 жыл бұрын
Konstantin Rokossovsky was actually Zhukov's superior prior to the purge, Zhukov was a brigade commander in his division.
@zangwangdang
7 жыл бұрын
Interesting, didn't know that.
@day2148
7 жыл бұрын
One could also argue that Konstantin Rokossovsky was the better commander as well. Just that every time he won, Zhukov took part of the credit as he was the superior -- something Stalin specifically set up as Rokossovsky was a Polish noble, while Zhukov was 'good reliable' Russian peasantry. I'm curious how you managed to get such good numbers?
@lonw.7016
6 жыл бұрын
Would like to see more of the Kharkov tank battle. Archives have been open for a while.
@andraslibal
4 жыл бұрын
2:57 is late war Pz IV with long barrel 75 mm and armor skirts
@JuergenGDB
5 жыл бұрын
Say Jack of War I think it would help those who are new or interested to display your sources of what books you collected this information from. Also the Air war overhead was a large part as well. Thanks for the upload good stuff, I think I have only 5 books that cover this little battle, although in most books this battle is really only covered in a few paragraphs or maybe one chapter.
@janis317
7 жыл бұрын
Not really incompetence, the Russian commanders actions have to be viewed by their experiences with the Purge which eliminated any sense of individual inititive in its commanders. In the Russian Army in 1941 you followed orders to the letter or your widow received the bill for the bullet.
@ВячеславСкопюк
7 жыл бұрын
that's complete bullshit, of course
@dfinlen
7 жыл бұрын
The great communist rise of freedom and squad tactics. Haha ...
@stoggafllik
3 жыл бұрын
@@ВячеславСкопюк stalin was a mass murderer. Stop defending him, commie
@MrMaximkozin
6 жыл бұрын
counting only T-34 and KV at a battle in 1941 is a silly thing to do, they didn't need much firepower to take out PZIIIs which were the vast majority of the German forces
@brucetutton7897
7 жыл бұрын
Hey great videos. Could you possibly add a scale bar to the maps?
@jccc7819
7 жыл бұрын
love your channel. Keep up the high quality content
@christianschulz1443
5 жыл бұрын
The southern front got literally whiped out twice (here and later Kiev), maybe three times if you count Fall Blau and the Russians dtill managed to hold. Very impressive really.
@AnimatedWarMapper
7 ай бұрын
Great series! I am creating one as well for YT, your one of my benchmarks for quality! Cheers.
@TheChuckfuc
4 жыл бұрын
nice video, I've been looking up info on this battle, but I found very little helpful information. where did you get your research?
@powderbeast5598
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you.
@sionlim1
5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic almost zero info on this great tank engagement. Kudos 😇
@DressedForDrowning
5 жыл бұрын
4:41 - Lol, I like how the music changes when the battle "begins" :-)
@davidcooke8005
5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought at Brody. I have the diary he carried with him at the front.
@davidcooke8005
5 жыл бұрын
@A Google User I'm an American. My grandfather was German.
@Barbarous_Wretch
Жыл бұрын
There was certainly a lot of tanks in the theatre of battle here but not so much of tank on tank engagement.
@nateweter4012
6 ай бұрын
Well done. Subscribed. Very good stuff. You should play Gates of Hell Ostfront on PC. You could use it to supplement your diagrams/maps/data. It’s also the finest WW2 game ever made.
@dermotrooney9584
7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thanks. I've subscribed.
@Sugarmountaincondo
3 ай бұрын
Great video about this very little know battle and your graphics help a lot to understand this. Maybe you could update this video using a period map showing the road network & terrain and also talk about what specific what Luftwaffe units were involved as we as a comparison of ALL the tanks involved and talk about the armaments and speeds of them and not just glance over the armor. @06:49-07:10 You show the Soviet 15th Mech Corp arriving and then moving northward off the map and in your summation, you state that it lost 91% of its tanks, so who did they engage with and at what location off map? @09:40 Notice how all of the Soviet tanks are in retreat mode, but all of their turrets are facing rearward.
@frederickthegreatpodcast382
5 жыл бұрын
I wish he was still making videos
@od1452
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice presentation. My old ears haven't faired well from my years in the Army..so the background music bothers me when you talk.. I hope it can be quieter.. but I realize thats my problem . Maps are great to help clarify any battle. Good job.
@godisreal2537
3 жыл бұрын
I find the music to be distracting. You are not alone.
@blackedelweiss601
6 жыл бұрын
I've never seen your channel. A specific search of "Battle of Brody" brought me here though. :)
@papajohnloki
3 жыл бұрын
same here
@BrorealeK
7 жыл бұрын
Lots of factors at play here which resulted in the Russian defeat at Brody, you can't even blame just superior experience, radios, and air superiority for the German win. The Soviet Mechanized Corps were actually in the process of reorganizing in order to fully motorize their infantry, but it hadn't happened yet. The result was that while Russian infantry divisions had horse transport, mechanized corps didn't--and their motorized support was only there on paper. So the infantry marched into Dubno-Brody while their tanks burned, dozens of miles ahead, completely isolated and easy prey for German antitank weapons. It was the very definition of a piecemeal attack. The Soviets hoped that exploiting a weak German flank (and there was a significant gap in the German lines, it's why Zhukov demanded an immediate attack) would at least force them to pause and reorganize. It somewhat worked. Soviet counterattacks would be much more successful in delaying the Germans at Yelnya that fall.
@kaletovhangar
4 жыл бұрын
@Evilstorm11 Not in 1941,not even close to fully.There was serious lack of transport vehicles.And Soviet mechanised corps were incomplete formations,not nearly enough prepared for the war, while German panzer divisions were fully committed to the battle,with their infantry regiments fully motorized (not counting foot infantry divisions).So Soviet tanks had to go into battle without their infantry support, and maintenance and other support units which are essential for just maintaining unit,let alone going into combat.This, poor Soviet training and almost no combat experience,almost uncontested German dominance in the air and complete confusion of Soviet high command lead to such defeats.
@0btuse
7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Was sent here by TIK from his own Dubno video. I am curious about your sources; I am always looking for more reading material on the Eastern Front.
@ДмитрийМоскалец-щ8ю
3 жыл бұрын
On September 20, 1941, the remnants of the 9th Mechanized Corps were incorporated into other formations. And if the 9th mechanized Corps was destroyed, then what did Rokossovsky command for almost 2 weeks?
@andraslibal
5 жыл бұрын
What were the losses in tank crews? Did many men manage to escape and fight another day (on both sides) or many crews were lost as well? I watched a video of Chieftain and Bernhard talking about how Americans lost a lot of Shermans but many crews managed to escape from the wreck of their tanks. What was the situation on the eastern front?
@romegavadquez6310
4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@NemoStMal
7 жыл бұрын
Hey, The Imperator Knight mentioned Your channel and I'am GLAD to have + already subbed !
@leftenanjero2311
3 жыл бұрын
Admin. Can i get the full script for this video. Its for my education process
@godweenausten
7 жыл бұрын
Hey, just stumbled upon your videos. I like your graphics very much. They are clean and informative, something I've been missing around. Have you considered using standard (nato) unit symbols? Keep up the good work.
@arsenal-slr9552
7 жыл бұрын
Damn so much for me making all these videos you beat me to it! Amazing work!
@jimc7022
7 жыл бұрын
Depending on the model of Panzer IV and the ground conditions they were fairly on par with The T-34/76's. The 50mm and 75mm could pen T-34's. Especially in the turret. They were not impervious to German guns. there were no T-34/85's yet in 1941. In muddy conditions the T-34's do have a significant advantage in mobility though. Battles like this are why the Germans produced the Tigers (and later Panthers) with wide tracks like the T-34's. The KV-1's were monsters at this point in the war. U are correct that they were nearly impervious to most German tank mounted guns at the time but there were AT guns like the flak 8.8 that could make Swiss cheese out of a KV. I give u that one. KV's were incredibly slow and unreliable though. They also only carried the same 76mm gun as the early T-34's (the KV-85 didn't exist yet). I really don't think the Germans were that handicapped technology-wise vs the soviets.
@zlobaplays
6 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thank you
@mikepodella
5 жыл бұрын
At 11:52, what is this 11th INFANTRY division you refer to? You should refer to the 11th PANZER division, there is no 11th INFANTRY division in this battle.
@janzapletal4297
5 жыл бұрын
Hi do you have battle map for Brody 1944?
@slimchancetoo
4 жыл бұрын
"The Soviet High Command was a mess" ------------- thanks to the 1937 - 1938 Purges of its ranks. No more Tukhachevsky, perhaps the most capable and far sighted of all Soviet commanders. No more Blyuker or Yegorov -- all highly trained and experienced. Only yes men survived.
@55TheOracle55
3 жыл бұрын
You really think 3 traitors would've made a difference lmao Tukachevsky was a fifth columnist for the Germans.
@hart2018
Жыл бұрын
@@55TheOracle55 💀stalin supporter thinks Tukhachevsky was working with the germans
@aidancornue2276
4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the 13th and 14th?
@california816
Жыл бұрын
1:30, yeah, with those narrow tank slits alone, you’d have a lot more burnt T-34s.
@apudharald2435
7 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Good stuff
@SA-ow9yo
4 жыл бұрын
Cool video.
@andersschmich8600
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you think you'll continue with your channel?
@rcgunner7086
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think the legend is that the Soviet 15th Corps is still roaming west of Brody, still following the stupid orders that they were given. They say that one day, when Stalin comes back from the dead and becomes the Czar of the Russias, that they will finally be allowed to rest in peace, or they will finally be given proper orders!
@arturaskarbocius6091
6 жыл бұрын
Moonlight Sonata - Beethoven is because Dubno - Brody battle and Adrien Brody played moonlight sonata in Pianist ? :)
@geldoncupi1
5 жыл бұрын
The germans were very effective due to their great tactics and doctrines. Their problem were not russians, but the endless area which result to the lack of vital supplies.
@christiantwelftree2472
5 жыл бұрын
Much of this video is misleading. German amour divisions prefered on the whole not to fight tank to tank, which is why their loses were so low. You have missed out the role of the German infantry. On the 28th the 111th German infanterie division occupied Dubno while the 11th Panzer ignored the treat to the rear and raced off eastward. Reading the 111 inf is interesting because it, on its own and with only 37mm PAK blunted the attack of the 8MC 34 Tank Division. It did this using a combination of improvisations including mines, artillery guns and pioneers
@gareththompson2708
4 жыл бұрын
The T26s and BT5/7s absolutely were not worthless. The 45mm gun of a T26 or BT was fully capable of knocking out either a panzer 3 or a panzer 4 (of course either a panzer 3 or 4 could easily knock out a T26 or BT in return, as could a panzer 2). The problem for the Soviets was not the quality of their tanks (that was A problem, just not THE problem). If the Soviet tanks had been properly supported they would have performed much better. The real problem for the Soviets was that they did not have infantry or artillery support, while the Germans did. Remember tank battles ARE NOT ABOUT TANKS VS TANKS!! They are about tanks AND infantry AND artillery vs tanks AND infantry AND artillery. Tanks are a powerful tool, but they are incredibly vulnerable without infantry and artillery support. Wherever tanks encounter each other, and one side has infantry and artillery support, and the other does not, the side without infantry is ALWAYS massacred (I have yet to read about a single exception to this rule). Everyone talks about how amazing the German victory was because they were so outnumbered by the Soviets. But they keep forgetting to consider the infantry and artillery, which are crucial components to a tank battle. The Germans were only outnumbered if you only consider tanks. When you consider the infantry (which always bring anti-tank guns with them, which rather substantially increases the number of anti-armor weapons on the field) the German victory becomes considerably less shocking. In addition to the anti-tank guns the infantry have anti-tank grenades and anti-tank rifles. Even the riflemen and machinegunners have a role in armored warfare, as they can force the enemy crew to button up with the threat of small arms fire, significantly reducing their visibility, and can even target the vision ports on the tank to further reduce the crew's visibility (those vision ports are protected with bullet proof glass, so a rifle wouldn't cause any casualties inside the tank, but crack the glass and it becomes impossible to see out of the vision ports). And of course the infantry also have the all important role of keeping enemy infantry off of the flanks of your tanks, although that role isn't as important when the enemy hasn't brought any infantry to the fight (although that does mean there is nothing keeping your infantry off of the flanks of the enemy tanks).
@alexejzemtsev5774
2 жыл бұрын
Gyd evropa 1940, master war
@annaphilip7514
6 жыл бұрын
I’ve herd a lone KV1 at Brody why diddint you talk about the lone KV1
@12eeno29
11 ай бұрын
Don't forget that after Nikolai Vashugin ordered Popel's counterattack and gave him hope that Ryabyshev would find his reinforcements later commited suicide in front of Kruschev after the 8th Mechanized was completely annihilated
@HistoryofT
7 жыл бұрын
these are great.
@WarReport.
5 жыл бұрын
It isnt quite right to say the other tanks other than Kv ones and T34e werent modern. They were a few years older and were light tanks meant for the deep battle doctrine the Soviets implemented which is simikiar to the German war of movement. The Kv 1 was a slow moving brawler to soak damage and create gaps for the light and medium tanks to exploit but the KV 1 did halt the blitz long enough for Russia to survive. So many battles.
@nodinitiative
6 жыл бұрын
TIK sends his regards. Great video. sub number 2909.
@briankorbelik2873
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering once again in these videos the lack of acknowledment for the crucial role of the Flak Regiment Herman Goring in defeating the massed Soc=viet attacks abd thus saving the 11th Panzer Division's rear ends by knocking out hundreds of Soviet tanks using their 88mmflak guns.
@tsgaerospace
6 жыл бұрын
thank you for the information, but damn it, now i have beethoven stuck in my head...
@goranhajduk1992
Жыл бұрын
The biggest tank battle in history. Dubno-Brody, not Prokhorovka. Kursk was the biggest tank operation, not a battle.
@rowancoggins9638
4 ай бұрын
If Germany had gone into the war with 75mm as a default caliber on their weaponry as Guderian and Hitler wanted, could you imagine the difference?
@matthewbaumann630
6 жыл бұрын
Did Germans use panzerfausts in these battles?
@ed19742006
5 жыл бұрын
Russian tanks had little to no radios. The German air force was brutal.
@BoogerSugar420
6 жыл бұрын
Panzer IV F2 could penetrate anything the Soviets threw at them. German tanks with 80mm frontal armor were panzer IV G. Obviously that was later in the war but they were very powerful compared to T-34s and even KV-1s when it comes to heavy penetration.
@andygass9096
2 жыл бұрын
Cant agree that the BT7 and T26 were junk, although thinly armored they were ok for the time. Remember most Soviet tank losses were down to either breakdowns or German anti tank guns.
@gew1898
6 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@oceanhome2023
7 жыл бұрын
Did not Barbarossa start on June 22 ? All of this happened 2 days after the start ????? Either this battle never happened or it is happening in 1942 !!
@nikolairubinskii6450
6 жыл бұрын
BT and T-26 tanks weren't useless junk, they were comparable to German Pz.2 and Pz.38t
@fredlandry6170
Жыл бұрын
There were supposed to be more tanks at this battle than at Kursk.
@gerardfrederick5504
2 жыл бұрын
German tanks were at the beginning, vastly inferior to the soviet types. It was simply a matter of leadership and superior tactics which won the day for the Germans, as well as a tremendous degree of will power and belief in the cause, lacking the later quasi insane degree of betrayal which cost them the war.
@b4nterontilt245
2 жыл бұрын
Prokhorovka was bigger tank clash than Dubno-Lutsk-Brody
@logicbomb5511
3 жыл бұрын
Its clear the soviets wanted the 15 corp to cut the Germans supply lines and take a blocking position to there rear but all the soviet army issues probably meant they had to stay tight and where probably not properly trained to preform the complex maneuver of deploying to such a position properly and just sailed through and past germans lines of communication as one big mass.
@pzg_kami6472
Жыл бұрын
I'm also agree with your notion. 2 things we need to consider ,1st this battle was happened during early stages of barbarossa so soviet commanders still not realized how well organized Wehrmacht is compared to how badly organized is the red army at the time. Also 2nd Soviet tanks were good (unlike said in the video) as even BTs and T26 tanks were capable of knocking out any german tanks at the time ! So with these 2 factors in mind and also considering the massive numercial advantage the Red Army had (at least in terms of tanks) so it is understandable why Soviet commanders sent 15th Mechanized Corps to the rear of german position ,as they expected and easy defeat of german forces so thought they can spare part of their forces to block the evemy retreat route. no doubt if things were going as russian planed it would have been a super sweet total victory for them
@djvasoful
7 жыл бұрын
Where is 22nd Mechanized Corps?
@zangwangdang
7 жыл бұрын
The 22nd mechanized corps was very late to the battle. It attacked Dubno on July 1, by then most Soviet forces were already in retreat. Therefore I decided not to include them as a part of this battle.
@SuperAlkibiades
6 жыл бұрын
Not right 22nd Mechanized Corps of General Kondrusew was attack since Beginning 22nd Juny Then have you vorgetten 4 Tankkorpp of General Wlassow and 24 Tankkorp of General Tschistjakow too, so have 15 Korps not alone 700 Tanks
@VRichardsn
6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Jack of War, how come the Soviet 15th Mechanized Corps sustained 91% casualties if it didn´t join the battle?
@danielkurtovic9099
5 жыл бұрын
They miss to join in this battle , but they did`t drove to an empty parking slot. They single handed drove right on german reservs and units going foward to Dubno-Brody, they where wipe out by planes, anti-tank units and at the end german panzers in an escape attempt.
@sergeyyatskevitch3617
3 жыл бұрын
BT-7 is a "useless junk"? C'mon man (c) .. BT-7 with its 45 mm gun has better firepower than pz IV and pzIII. Moreover, do not forget that these tanks were very fast, thus a harder target to lock on. I would seriously recommend to read more about this tank and edit what you said about BT-7. Also, speaking about heavy tanks, do not forget about T-35, which although slow, was heavily armed with 1 76 mm gun and 2 45 mm guns + machine guns. .
@ws2228
6 жыл бұрын
If the war were alot different as the narrator said, none of us would have ever been born
@marksummers463
4 жыл бұрын
Zukov was lucky not to have gotten shot.
@henrikhilskov
5 жыл бұрын
Well. Please reconsider your definition of "obsolete tank" when speaking of german tanks. You mention that only t-34 and KV-1 are not obsolete because the other tanks as t-26 it could not fight the german anti tank guns and the german III and IV. So using the same definition of "obsolete" all t german tanks would be considered "obsolete too since they were not able to fight the t-34 and kv-1... The major fact is air strikes and momentum in your tactic and strategy and level of experience in command chain.
@Andyxylius
7 жыл бұрын
Those god damn stukas!
@worthlessdollar1
7 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if the Germans had brought 88mm anti-tank guns with them...
@jiminylummox9352
6 жыл бұрын
Because they weren't anti-tank guns, the 88mm was an anti-aircraft gun. I guess they never thought they'd need to bring them in to use against Soviet tanks..
@kleinerPanzer
6 жыл бұрын
It's so shocking how some Soviet units literally just didn't engage in the battle
@jasonharry645
4 жыл бұрын
They are told what to do, following your own initiate would of been deadly, for yourself Complex manoeuvres I suspect would never of been an option by the Russians at that time, how do they communicate that
@rcgunner7086
3 жыл бұрын
True, but it happens all of the time in war. Orders are badly expressed or written and the commander is left trying to figure them out (which is why commander's intent is so vital in US doctrine). Also, logistics might not allow for a movement to occur. You orders could be as clear as crystal, but if you're vehicles are out of gas then you're not going anywhere.
@سقراط-ي7ز
Ай бұрын
اعتقد ان الجيش السوفيتي كان قبل الحرب مهمل بسبب عمليات التطهير الدمويه التي قام بها ستالين وحتى الضباط الذين بقوا على قيد الحياة كانوا غير مستقرين وخائفين مما ياتي لهم به الغد من مفاجات مذهله... هذا هو السبب الذي باستطاعتنا ان نقول انه السبب الرئيسي الذي أضعف ذلك الجيش وشجع العريف على شن الحرب ضد الاتحاد السوفيتي
@japeking1
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.... despite the fact that the Russians could have/ should have done better, they actually did enough over this awful summer to prevent ( just) the Germans reaching their main objectives and the rest as they say is history.
@christianschulz1443
5 жыл бұрын
Thats not really true they had no plan at all
@danielkurtovic9099
5 жыл бұрын
@@christianschulz1443 - so true , Stalin first 4 days did`t belive it is happening. For the germans plan ( main goal ) was reach A-A line. Archangelsk - Astrahan.
@japeking1
4 жыл бұрын
@@bewbud9999 OK... just point it out ...no need to vomit on " you foreigners ", especially given you have no idea where I come from or what my background might be. In mitigation I would point out that during the war Stalin presented it as a defence of Mother Russia and only after did he announce a Soviet victory.
@55TheOracle55
3 жыл бұрын
@@japeking1 Stalin said in defence of the Motherland, or Fatherland, not Mother Russia, he never used that term. www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1941/07/03.htm
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