Tbh if I was a German soldier I'd think the war is over after the massive encirclements of Soviet manpower and equipment.
@johnfontenot4351
3 жыл бұрын
Many did.
@derwunderwaffe3653
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been without Hitlers ways to lead war.
@Natogoon
3 жыл бұрын
@Wehrmacht nazi deutschland The bs “winter” argument has to stop. Winter doesn’t stop armies, long fucking supply lines and russians fighting back is what stopped the Germans. Winter was merely a small factor. The Russians weren’t immune to the winter either, so that evens things out.
@antoinemozart243
3 жыл бұрын
This is what they thought ! And we all know how it ended. The OKH were stupid amateurs.
@vadosg1238
3 жыл бұрын
This only proves the real quality of german intelligence efforts
@brazilian22cmDick
4 жыл бұрын
Very good!!! I love this battle. 8 Army's captured.. awesome. Salute from Brazil. Keep this great job.
@mushtaqlone6749
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video series on barbarossa.. Very well explained
@ProvidenceNL
7 жыл бұрын
your content is great man, keep it up and you will certainly gain subs!
@ottocarius5214
3 жыл бұрын
Books? Resources?
@kcrsradio
6 жыл бұрын
Really great stuff for the serious student of this conflict. Many thanks.....your work is much appreciated!
@TheWilferch
2 жыл бұрын
I've followed all the previous episodes so far...and find this a well documented ( and map-animated !!!) series.....very good work. If I may ask, I am tracing a German relative's troop movements during the war, and have assembled a mass of data.....but I can't seem to break through on certain levels. So if I may ask.....do you (or you viewers) have any data on a possible 62nd or 252nd infantry division ...and where they may have seen action?. I expect Ukraine and more likely being in Army Group South vs Center or North.....but as we see here, there was a collaboration of AG Center and South....so that can broaden the search possibilities. Thank you.
@velavanmohan6675
7 жыл бұрын
The last line was awesome and so happy to see no dislikes at all. There are many ww2 videos but your one is not complicated as many others and really good.😊😊
@louismarsh469
7 жыл бұрын
Well done buddy! This is really impressive! Just the other week I was thinking of setting my own history channel up to cover content from WW2 as I find it so interesting! This may of just inspired me to go through with it ! 👍🏼
@jccc7819
7 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video! Keep up the good work and the new subscribers will come.
@marknorris1381
2 жыл бұрын
A very straight forward explanation of what happened there, well done. Maps spell it out well, and it was so obviously going to happen. Stavka (Stalin) was so culpable in that early period.
@AnimatedWarMapper
7 ай бұрын
Great episode! Great content
@bogdanfedorov2701
3 жыл бұрын
Kyiv - correct. Not Kiev!
@davidsabillon5182
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. You have my thanks.
@tigeschig3000
7 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting a long time for content like this. keep it up
@BradleyRubin
7 жыл бұрын
Love this series, can't wait for the next episode :)
@antoinemozart243
3 жыл бұрын
The battle of Kiev shows wonderfully the strategic trap where the Germans were since the beginning of Barbarossa. As it was impossible for the German High command (OKH and Hitler) to have a viable strategical goal , they had lost completely strategic initiative since Smolensk. They were destined to be completely destroyed. If it took so long it was because of the incredible organisation and tactical power of the landsers. Runstead understood it in October 1941 in the South. He said : " what we are doing here has no sense whatsoever. The best we can do is to go back to Germany as quickly as possible and make a strong defensive line."
@romegavadquez6310
2 жыл бұрын
That guy’s mustache was legendary
@antoniofreire8471
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that saved Budiony's neck was Stalin's sympathy for him. But as a strategist, as a tactician, as everything that was military, he couldn't be worse. Very similar to Voroshilov.
@electrolytics
4 жыл бұрын
Good video. The underlying theme at the end of your video is very correct. The Germans paid too high a cost for their "Operational Supremacy". They started paying this cost as early as Poland, where historians are now understanding that the German's were too willing to spend blood to gain time.(which is what they had to do, paradoxically.) Your final comments give rise also to the idea that maybe Stalin wasn't making such a huge mistake in ordering "no retreats". This is another concept that historians are revisiting. After all, we know Russia had enough troops in the end. More than enough. What Stalin needed was time. He could buy time with his soldiers lives. Hitler couldn't.
@JuergenGDB
4 жыл бұрын
You do realize that in the end the Soviets were also suffering shortages of men. Only Guard Units and some Mechanized forces were up to 80% many of the other Army groups were down to 40-60% operational strength, many without weapons. forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=198614 I had the privileged opportunity to talk to a Hungarian vet from Budapest. he was captured by the Soviets after the battle and sent to a Gulag near the Urals where he assisted in repairing things since he was an Engineer. He also wrote a brief biography from his diaries he kept. In one street battle he said that an entire company of Soviet troops would run out to gain a position with only maybe 60% having weapons.. if they fled or retreated they were gunned down by Soviet NKVD troops. He said tactics like this continued all throughout the Budapest battle until his capture. Sometimes I wonder if the Germans had defeated the UK by capturing Dunkirk and allowing minimal escape and then routing the UK out of Egypt by the end of 1940, virtually capitulating the UK... would there have been a difference in the Eastern Front, as Germany would have only one front to contend with?
@michaeldiaz7045
2 жыл бұрын
@@JuergenGDB Yes, itd make a Huge Difference. Germany probably would still lose bc of the powerhouse of America. If America hadnt joined and the U.K pulled out of the war Germany couldve won the war.
@user-rn7rn7sb5w
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldiaz7045 не правильно мыслишь красный армии не победить тем более его дома и Наполеон проиграл свои время
@michaeldiaz7045
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rn7rn7sb5w in English.
@michaeldiaz7045
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rn7rn7sb5w let me guess. Youre saying Russia would be Germany alone. Never. Lil Japan kicked their ass in 1904.
@Kwakwakwakwa2
6 жыл бұрын
In 5 mn all is understood. This chain and it's author deserve fame and material reward.
@gratler
7 жыл бұрын
wow. i subbed because honestly you should have at least 10 times as many subs with that quality content!
@JuergenGDB
4 жыл бұрын
Soviet tanks depleted because of the Battle of Brody. It is and still is the largest ever Tank Battle in History... it is a shame not much has been published or researched. By the way there are many books written that state that Russia suffered man shortages from 1942 till the end of the war. Yes they had more men, but you still have to train them and arm them. I believe only about 40% of the Soviet formations were at full strength near the Battle for Germany... the rest was under armed and under strength.
@marechalrommel
7 жыл бұрын
awesome, keep them coming. Love your videos.
@DC_10
3 жыл бұрын
Strategically it was the right decision to encircle the whole Soviet army in Kiev and delay the march to Moscow. People blamed Hitler moving the 2nd Panzer Group towards the south as the prelude to the failure of Operation Barbarosa. In reality, the underestimate of the vast Russian resources of defending its motherland and the steady resolve of the Russian people brought the final defeat of the Third Reich, regardless how German high command moved the troups around.
@antoinemozart243
3 жыл бұрын
Because you think that encircling the Soviets in Kiev was a strategic victory ?are you kidding ? It was only a tactical victory ! Because it showed that the OKH had zero strategical goal and that they were destined to be completely destroyed.
@DC_10
3 жыл бұрын
@@antoinemozart243 I should have clarified my statement better. Regardless it's a right or wrong strategy, I despise many German generals blamed Hitler's decision after the war to move the 2nd Panzer Army to Kiev. The truth of the matter, based on new records and archives dug out after Soviet Union collapse, is this strategic move was heavily discussed and known by the OKH during the war game way before Operation Barbarossa began. It was not a bad move to redirect the 2nd Panzer to support the south and the 3rd Panzer to support the north to straighten the whole front. Due to the extensive long front line of Russia, German high command realized and agreed that they cannot use the one sided heavy punch approach like the French campaign in both world wars. They can be easily cut in half. It's easy to place the blame on the dead Hitler anyway. The only mistake Hitler made was his wishful thinking about how easily the Soviet Communist regime would collapse once he kicked the door wide open. He got himself a hornets nest.
@antoinemozart243
3 жыл бұрын
@@DC_10 I completely agree with you But I think the war against the USSR and the collapse of the third Reich that was it's obvious conclusion occurred because of the attack of Poland. That was a huge mistake from Hitler. You don't have a neighbour like the giant USSR without strategic depth. After the pact, Stalin took control of the Baltic countries and annexed the Bessarabia just near the oil of Ploesti. Hitler was now aware of the never ending Hunger of his dangerous neighbour who was binding his time to attack German interests. Hitler did nothing to help the Finn's in the end of the pact. The Finn's remembered it and did as few as possible to help the Germans.
@External2737
3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber well done.
@fury1855
4 жыл бұрын
What was the platform you used when you showed us the battle
@andraslibal
5 жыл бұрын
130,000 German casualties is extremely significant. Let's not forget how Germany was limited to 100,000 soldiers during the Versailles years, and could not train up the reserves. The soldiers dying here cannot be replaced with trained reserves - Germany does not have trained reserves. Also, these are the veterans of previous campaigns, and the best fighting force Germany has. All these losses are irreplaceable. Out of the 3.8 million axis forces invading the Soviet Union only a small percentage are frontline troops, a lot of the force consists of support, logistics etc. elements, that is why for the frontline troops this is a much higher percentage loss than the sheer number would indicate. By the end of 1941 Germany has lost its best troops, 1942 is the year of the (not so well trained) reserves and axis minors (Italy, Romania, Hungary etc.) and then 1943 is the last ditch effort with the last reserves of the SS ... by 1944 they only have support troops pressed into service and Volkssturm - old people and children. 1941 is when the regular, well-trained veteran German Army dies.
@user-yw3gc4jb7e
4 жыл бұрын
They easily conquered the whole of Europe, franciu Holland women Poland, and so on and they had no experience? just these easy victories scril their heads and they thought the same will happen in Russia, but we quickly were given to understand that the plan of Barbarossa can shove up your ass.
@colinhunt4057
7 ай бұрын
Mostly wrong. The Reichwehr was developing enormous trained reserves all through the Weimar period. The Wehrmacht had rather limited supply forces because the invading army was instructed to live off the land, murdering and robbing the peasantry for food. The supply services only needed to move forward ammunition and fuel during Barbarossa, and they only had enough fuel for about three months. That's why the Barbarassa offensive collapsed at end of September - no more gasoline until more was moved up from Germany.
@HistoryofT
7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, cant wait for your next episode :) Also Stalingrad could be interesting.
@Grondorn
6 жыл бұрын
German losses are not correct for this battle, they originate from Soviet sources which tend to overblown the number of casualties. According to latest sources, Germans had around total 50 000 casualties (KIA, MIA, WIA).
@apoc3037
4 жыл бұрын
Very good content, keep it up. Where are you from if i may ask?
@luftwaffe9787
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry this channel is dead He hasn't posted a single vid or made an update for 2 years
@apoc3037
4 жыл бұрын
@@luftwaffe9787 yeah seen that by now what a shame
@voicevoice2053
3 жыл бұрын
These soviet figures are mind boggling....its even more stunning they eventually recovered in time to finally defeat the filthy nazis right to the snake hitlers bunker
@michaeldiaz7045
2 жыл бұрын
Thats just bc the U.S, France and the U.K were attacking from the west and south. If it werent bc of the lend lease help from the U.S Russia wouldve been destroyed. Germany vs Russia wouldve been the end of the USSR.
@Aureus_
2 жыл бұрын
Now there's another battle of kyiv
@CobaltSVK
7 жыл бұрын
Great job! I really look forward to some battles where Soviets will finally learn and actually win some ground. Btw do you plan other series? Maybe Afrika-Korps? That would be amazing too, Rommel and all the back and forth fighting
@carrickrichards2457
4 жыл бұрын
unwatcheable - 15 minutes of unskipable adverts before it starts
@GeneSlasten
Жыл бұрын
Soviet Army at that time was called Red Army. It was officially renamed as Soviet Army only in 1945. Says so the Philologist. 😮
@TheOtherShuffler
7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work. Is Leningrad next? If so how are you going to cover it, seeing how long it lasted?
@zangwangdang
7 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to skip Leningrad since the German plan was to siege it as the 3rd/4th panzer armies were diverted to Moscow.
@TheOtherShuffler
7 жыл бұрын
Ah right, but I assume you'll cover the encirclement/Silver Fox at some point?
@ВладимирПолищук-п6э
2 жыл бұрын
Военное искусство воочию.
@Kolomin1987
4 жыл бұрын
Опять такие из за упрямства Сталина отказавшегося отвести войска от Киева. В результате крупнейший в истории котёл.
@user-jr4vx9qe4j
4 жыл бұрын
Только за упрямство усатого деспота , а ваши хреновы русское генеральское стадо баранов куда деть ! И только под Киевом все это случилось ?! Сколько до конца войны было таких котлов у русских до сих пор боитесь расшифровать и дать оценку правдивую ! Без ваших пансловянских вихрендеев и русофильства ! У вас ( русских) было десятки своих " Сталинградов" !!!! Вам ли о других говорить
@Kolomin1987
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-jr4vx9qe4j В 1941 году пять котлов было, белостокско-минский, уманский, киевский, брянский и вяземский. В 42 крупные котлы под Харьковом и Волховский.
@user-jr4vx9qe4j
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kolomin1987 да !!! Умник , а про крымский котел в районе Армянска и далее , потери в Керчи 160 000 тыс пленных неудачная десантная операция рассчитанная на лёгкую победу у связи с превосходством в числености до 30000 чел ! А провалилось ! Манштейн умница !
@user-jr4vx9qe4j
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kolomin1987 а про котел под Ленинградом мясной бор , 2 ударная армия Власова ! Сколько из было и нет у русских стыда каждый раз вспоминая про ничтожный Сталинград !
@ivanmico1
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video series. But you keep telling people wrong information. Other channels and historians already proved that soviets only started to be numerically superior to wehrmacht in 1942.
@Yurkovich
5 жыл бұрын
Слава городу-герою Киеву и героям сражавшимся за освобождение Киева
@user-jr4vx9qe4j
4 жыл бұрын
У Украины свои герои а вы говорите о своих придуманных : Зоя умолишенная, Николай гостелло приведение , Александр матросов - башкир ! О каких героях вы говорите ! Вы сами запутались в своей лжи !
@jasonmussett2129
4 жыл бұрын
Good footage apart from the gaff with the Tiger and Panther. Whoops! Impressive nevertheless.
@ericlefevre7741
5 жыл бұрын
One mistake, the 38th army was mostly inside the Kiev pocket. Not outside.
@BlackMan614
7 жыл бұрын
You need to hook up w/ David Glantz and provide graphics for his books.
@tomhawkinson2162
4 жыл бұрын
BlackMan614 Yes!
@guatuzzijr7889
4 жыл бұрын
Lastima que no tiene subtitulados tendrias mas del doble de visitas!!!
@petermitchelmore2592
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to compare with the present day failure of Vladimir Putin.
@narayasuiryoku1397
4 жыл бұрын
Tbh If I was Hitler I would’ve rage quit after capturing so many soldiers and still being the one running out of men
@colinhunt4057
7 ай бұрын
He didn't run out of men. The Wehrmacht had larger numbers of soldiers in the East Front in 1942. What it was running out of was oil. Without oil, panzers and trucks can't move, nor can aircraft fly.
@hallamhope
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have been studying the second world war all my life. I could even pass for a historian. lol. Hallam in always sunny Barbados.
@ВолковАлександр-ц3и
4 жыл бұрын
Как весело они наступали, а такие зашуганные сдавались в плен! Сколько горя принесли, нам своего не хватало сначала цари гнобили русский народ, потом Ленин, Сталин и наконец здравствуй дядя Вова, когда ж вы напьетесь русской кровью? Может это действительно наше проклятие наша огромная территория с огромными богатствами? Да переведите все деньги на запад, в который раз Россия с колен поднималась? Только возьмите все вместе за руки и валите отсюда, мы даже можем гарантии дать, что искать вас не будем, мы добрые, мы зла не держим! Только освободите землю от захватчиков! Дядя Вова уходи!
@Zakariya3603
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, the Germans had a 1 to 5 k;d ratio against the Soviets.
@luciusvorenus1228
6 жыл бұрын
the one thing i noticed that surprises me about barbarosa. is how strong the germans were at that time.
@ijustwanttocomment4389
3 жыл бұрын
@Wehrmacht nazi deutschland yesh they would detroy any country 1v1 at the time
@user-rn7rn7sb5w
2 жыл бұрын
Самый главный боевой дух не количество а качество 🖕 СССР красный армия всех сильней!!!
@user-rn7rn7sb5w
2 жыл бұрын
@Wehrmacht nazi deutschland зато боевой дух отсутствовал было количество а качество нехуя
@user-rn7rn7sb5w
2 жыл бұрын
@@ijustwanttocomment4389 нет дружище они такими лозунгами планами только сама себе уничтожил самый сильный армия это который имеет дисциплины и боевой дух у красный армии было такое
@bghyst
7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@mohamedabdelrazek6020
3 жыл бұрын
80 years ago
@fabiosunspot1112
5 жыл бұрын
The Russians simply didn't have what it took to beat the Germans in the beginning of hostilities, but as time went on the Germans simply couldn't keep up with supply and demand over such long distances. The Russians were fighting in there own land much easier to supply.
@73Trident
5 жыл бұрын
Bottom line logistics will win in the long run. Fighting spirit is important, but logistics will win.
@ezequielstepanenko3229
5 жыл бұрын
Logistics was one of the reasons the soviets took such heavy losses in the beginning and one of the reasons that germany got defeated in the end, but there were other important factors as well
@colinhunt4057
7 ай бұрын
@@73Trident Exactly so. The Wehrmach had only fuel reserves sufficient for about three months of offensive in 1941. After that, they were forced to halt until more diesel and gasoline could be moved up the rail lines from Germany and resume the offensive in November. Everything Germany attempted was severely limited by the restrictions of the oil supply. Without it, tanks didn't move, trucks didn't move and aircraft couldn't fly. The fuel demands of Barbarossa meant the near complete suspension of all activity by the Kriegsmarine. It also severely limited supply and reinforcement availability in North Africa and was also largely responsible for immobilizing the Italian fleet.
@powderbeast5598
4 жыл бұрын
😄👍 Excellent.
@KlausValk
5 жыл бұрын
Make a 1942 and 1943 one please!
@user-yw3gc4jb7e
4 жыл бұрын
He will not, because with 43 Nazis he will run nonstop to Berlin, and he adores them, you can see it in the Avatar
@user-ix6cr5js6n
4 жыл бұрын
Go in Stalingrad, will come 43 and already we will choose direction strikes and borrow in pincers.
@user-xy5qj2ts9k
3 жыл бұрын
Kyiv is NOT Kiev
@joko6620
2 жыл бұрын
is it different?
@tammyleederwhitaker649
4 жыл бұрын
RIP🌹
@erwinsell184
3 жыл бұрын
While the video was well realized I have many doubts about historical accuracy data used in it ,such number. The so often repeated "German aerial superiority "which was not at all a reality . While german had better coordination between air and land army forces at small unit level and time momentous versus Soviets. Russian often attack in larger aerial fighters formation against german bombers formation making often difficult for Germans to accurate destroy land target on time or in full forces Same time is true tactic used by fighters in Germans were far superior than those of Russian .Russian often fought with more determination and aggressively often fanatic tactic than german forcing German aerial forces to spend time longer in air x their bombers in order x their fighters clear the path. Also the rules of war indicate attackers should use at least 2 to 1 in their advantage and Germans were often in mens,artillery and tanks in complete disadvantage Very huge difference often ,even in quality equipment level. Also the repeated "German soldiers better trained" is a no quite a definitive positive view.They in early war had more much better training and experience in proportion versus Russians but not in amount. Less 500 000 german soldiers were veteran with some experience of western and Poland camping when invasion of Russian start in June 1941 . While soviets have over 1 million very well experienced soldiers of Mongolian and Finland resent wars conflict 1937/40 So hey we're battle hardened as well Germans and soviets tanks tactic used in Mongolia were not far from Germans either and very well tested used. SO german tank command was not that inferior as wrongly is said. Also you imply a Germans panzer division had more supply trucks and more gas fuel supply vehicles versus Russian. That is because most of German tanks had far less km per tank travel distance versus soviets that could out farrange or go and return easy with same tank full While Germans can not . Spare parts trucks are more needed in the one attacking as is going far from his original bases(germans),soviets no need much of it as they had then back no ahead,they were fighting defensive retreats battles. So lack of supplied trucks per division in soviets tank units did not affect their performance outcome enough to affect their actions overall in the battle. Also lack of truck in soviet did not limited their mobility of troops as they often choose their areas before Germans while Germans with more truck still need bring more fuel gas to move their troops on it ,dus why we see often Germans moving on foot ,horses and carriage in Russia than on trucks. Germans better tactic,better general,better fast decisions, better trained at small unit level overwhelm soviets that had slow reaction per post Momentous,slow obsolete main staff command and inferior small squad unit tactic . even so they had far superiority in all. Would it be all the way around with exact numbers soviets had but in Germans side and equipment as soviets had and the soviets what germans had but leaving same german generals with german acting as they did in 1941.the invasion would be stop immediately. We can not seat in old few sources books. we need study more newer findings data to put things in videos correct. Your videos lack source sitation that can lead people to confirm what you saying. You are just reading a pre edited work base on picking choosing sources and mixing then in a cocktail. Last but no least. While training in german army was far efficient at squad, platoon and company level,by mid 1941 half of german soldier were new replacement fresh trained but with not combat experience. In September 1st 1941 german sick, wounded,missing kill and captured in East front were over 500 000 with most them been former veterans of early campaing. Also in Agust 15 1941 over 40 % of not casualties Germans front line forces were ordered ed to be replaced x a short leave of two weeks ,not counting 4 days each way back and for in train trips to Germany. This reduce the number of German experienced soldiers in early September by over 1 millions and replaced with well trained 8 weeks traing approx)but not combat experience
@VolodymyrPrykhodkoG
3 жыл бұрын
After 1 week, soviet terrorists partisans explode 580 buildings in Kiev with their inhabitants. ((
@rednoob8954
7 жыл бұрын
When will you do Stalingrad?
@zangwangdang
7 жыл бұрын
No plans to do Stalingrad right now.
@rednoob8954
7 жыл бұрын
Oh ok
@icedteacatfish
4 ай бұрын
kyiv, not kiev
@jmtake85
6 жыл бұрын
oil oil oil
@colinhunt4057
7 ай бұрын
Exactly so. The German army ran out of fuel in September 1941. It would take a couple of months to move up enough fuel to resume the offensive in November. All of this was known before the start of Barbarossa. The head of OKW logistics, General Eduard Wagner, stated that the Wehrmacht had sufficient fuel for barely three months of offensive for Barbarossa. This is why Germany needed a quick victory in 1941.
@joececcacci4879
7 жыл бұрын
I just cannot understand how Germany did not know who they wagged war on.
@TheAiurica
6 жыл бұрын
There are many reasons... Some of them are: 1. They signed a pact with Japan. This mean that a great chunk of Red Army was tied in Far East and would not be available for actual fighting. 2. Red Army performed poorly in Winter War (at least this was the perspective). As follow, Red Army was rated as a third rate army, unable to put any significant rezistance against german war machine. 3. Based on experience of the previous war (WW1), a stream of defeats of the Red Army would lead to chaos, breakdown of soviet authority, or even revolution or civil war (like 20 years before).
@derwunderwaffe3653
3 жыл бұрын
Actually Germans were very close. Without American, Candian and Britain suplies Soviet Union would have been easily over runned by the German army. Also the German leader Hitler made a huge mistake when took the lead on his own hands.
@colinhunt4057
7 ай бұрын
@@derwunderwaffe3653 The massive supply of trucks, food and petroleum products via Lend Lease was the only reason the Soviet Union survived the disasters of 1942 and allowed Operation Uranus and the crushing defeat at Stalingrad. Even by mid-1942, the Soviets were starting to run out of manpower to fill the infantry divisions.
@robertmanfredthurrigl9424
Жыл бұрын
The primitive mindset of the russians has not changed from the days of the red army and they are still using the numbers game to make up for lack of sophistication and flexibility on battle plans . Right now, the Russians are doing the same in the Ukraine , playing the numbers game and hoping to overcome set backs by sheer weight of numbers, either through human waves attacks or massed artillery fire , not to dissimilar to WWI . The civilian population suffers accordingly . The West no longer carpet bomb or use massed artillery , especially on populated parts . The russians use WWII tactics still . Life has no value . soldiers are used as canon fodder and are expendable . Such is the mindset. The fact they used convicts from maximum security prison is not to dissimilar to the red armies penal battalions . I can see the Ukraine over come the numbers game . I also have a sinking feeling the West may tune down the aid eventually or turn off the tab. If Trumps gets in (god forbid) then all bets of further aid are off the table ! Britain and the EU block will still aid Ukraine but under Trump the America first slogan will turn off its tabs .
@froggylegspeople
5 жыл бұрын
I hear you talking about devisions and soviet army as if it’s real with real soldiers. But the sad thing is that a lot of them where young boys who were never in the army before, of course most of them died. So speak with a serious exiting voice, like a boy playing with his toys. As if you’re talking about real soldiers. Both sides waisted a lot of young lives as cannon meat. But you wouldn’t talk about that, would you?
@rodrigojps
5 жыл бұрын
He definitely wouldn't, considering you're two years too late to comment.
@froggylegspeople
5 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo J.P.S. 2 years is nothing to compare with, 78 years today in 2019.
@guibaterasoad
5 жыл бұрын
@@froggylegspeople You are stupid.
@andrewmarino5441
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact. The Germans suffered higher casualties capturing Kiev than they did conquering France
@colinhunt4057
7 ай бұрын
Yes and no. What is frequently not counted in the battle for France are the huge number of casualties inflicted by their own medical services. For France, the German soldiers were issued with Pervitin. The soldiers called it 'panzer chcolate'. These chocolat bars were laced with large doses of meth-amphetamines. Soldiers marched and fought for days without eating or sleeping, overwheliming the French with an army that never seemed to rest or halt. However, the Wehrmacht suffered about 30,000 deaths from drug overdose at the end of the Battle of France. They did not attempt to use Pervitin again in Barbarossa in 1941. The military use of Pervitin was well known at the time. The Finnish army used it heavily during the Winter War of 1939-40.
@arturaskarbocius6091
6 жыл бұрын
Then blitz tactics ended or pincer or pun panzer movement ended, soviets learned fast Stalingrad soviets pincer movement, then battles started go head to head Germans lost war.
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