Barristan needs a master to serve. He's the real hound.
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
trueeee
@TheRkelly3001
4 ай бұрын
Comment wins the day
@Mj_Jetson
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, despite their honorable reputation, Aerys' kingsguard totally suck: "As for Lord Rickard, the steel of his breastplate turned cherry-red before the end, and his gold melted off his spurs and dripped down into the fire. I stood at the foot of the Iron Throne in my white armor and white cloak, filling my head with thoughts of Cersei. After, Gerold Hightower himself took me aside and said to me, 'You swore a vow to guard the king, not to judge him.' That was the White Bull, loyal to the end and a better man than me, all agree." (Catelyn VII ACoK) "You're hurting me," they had heard Rhaella cry through the oaken door. "You're hurting me." In some queer way, that had been worse than Lord Chelsted's screaming. "We are sworn to protect her as well," Jaime had finally been driven to say. "We are," Darry allowed, "but not from him." (Jaime II AFfC)
@keirangrant1607
5 ай бұрын
Like Jaime told Ned in the series, everyone stood by and did nothing. Standing on your morals and principles are great...... when you have no skin in the game. Everyone says they have morals and a code but let someone you care for stand in the way. Let your life or livelihood be at stake. Most everyone folds. Self preservation usually trumps morality. Barriston is defending his king. He doesnt know what we, the reader, knows, and part of him probably doesnt either.
@tiagotimoteo4004
5 ай бұрын
It's the dichotomy of Sor Barristan Selmy, the bold and the coward.
@lovecraftianleviathan8918
5 ай бұрын
Why did nobody in the books or show go for the low-hanging fruit of calling him Ser Barristan the Old? Maybe they did and I don’t remember, but that obvious joke is _right there!_
@TheDiabeticGameMaster
5 ай бұрын
Pretty confident Jeoffrey did, lol
@josephpotter7776
5 ай бұрын
Because he was arguably top 5 swordman in the book. Not trying to defend those words with steel
@PRT1256
5 ай бұрын
Sansa: Even in the far north, the singers praise the deeds of Barristan the Bold. Renly: Barristan the Old, you mean. Don't flatter him too sweetly, child, he thinks overmuch of himself already. - A Game of Thrones, Chapter 15, Sansa I.
@gokbay3057
4 ай бұрын
People in Mereen do cal him "Ser Grandfather" so there is that.
@DrDetfink
5 ай бұрын
Knights were closer to Tony Soprano than some chivalrous fairy tale character. You didn’t want to whack someone with your sword unless you were cleared to do so by a high lord or king.
@joeatwood1346
4 ай бұрын
Barristan was trained to fight. Not to think. Not to lead. He’s a human weapon constrained by duty. The character actually grows into being self-actuating and a counselor only when he is finally forced into a position of having to choose. Up until Cersei decides to break things just because she can, Barristan could continue to exist within the rules as a rules-following personality. Which just makes firing Barristan one of Cersei’s legion of mistakes. Freed of the rules, Barristan learns to act and assert himself. Freeing a human weapon from the rules is always dangerous.
@jeangale6914
5 ай бұрын
I think the Kingsguard should have disobeyed some of Aerys' most crazy commands, I mean by disobeying him in some instances you are helping the king and you can control his impulses.
@iliaponomarev1624
5 ай бұрын
> Barristan didn't do the epic last stand Wasn't he wounded and captured after his epic last stand (that really mattered!) at the Ruby Ford? And, afterwards, Robert is also a Targaryen. Crowning him is just like passing the crown to Aegon V. Sure, the crown missed some heads, but it still stayed within the family.
@joefo458
5 ай бұрын
Right. People don’t see enough the RR’s was more like the shift from Richard II to Henry IV and his line than, say, the Norman Invasion. And why, because now dark hair kings and not platinum blondes?
@coachmcguirk6297
5 ай бұрын
No character in game of thrones is the honorable person you think they are. Thats kind of the point. Complex characters. Except maybe show Ned, he was pretty perfect especially once you learn he never had the affair.
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
Yup
@teddycaliendo6744
5 ай бұрын
Neds a fricken nerd
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
@@teddycaliendo6744 ;o
@gokbay3057
4 ай бұрын
Even show Ned did lie for years. To protect Jon's life so justified yes, but it does make him not the honorable person you think he is.
@jammysmears4077
4 ай бұрын
Ned murders a soldier with PTSD in the first chapter.
@henkdevrjes9640
5 ай бұрын
Barristan is loyal to/wants to be a part of the "office"/institution of the kingsguard. He just needs a king to follow. When he is older and wiser he prefers to serve a good/honourable king/queen. That's why he scopes out danh first.
@gameinspection4999
5 ай бұрын
All of those kingsguards were oath breakers and enablers. They just hid under the guise of honor
@williamtimonen6814
4 ай бұрын
I think like with the irony of Jaime becoming the Kingslayer being the most good he ever did, that the idea very much is honourable =/= morally good.
@Vidacaangel1318
5 ай бұрын
Love hearing you Preston 🎉 this video made my day ❤
@kilroy3579
3 ай бұрын
Wow...Barristan was always one of my favorite characters, but yeah I have to agree. If he was truly loyal, then he should've left Westeros the moment he learned that Viserys and Daenerys were still alive, in order to protect the rightful heirs. The fact that he didn't opens up some issues. Maybe he was so sick of serving those he deemed unworthy, that when Robert gave him the option to stay on, he was hoping for better. But that didn't really happen. Then he goes to find Daenerys out of a lack of options really...and not so much loyalty. This really does call his honor into question.
@madambutterfly1997
5 ай бұрын
We just need a new kingsguard full of knights who take their vows seriously but have enough conscience to not allow the king to act with impunity
@terpfen
5 ай бұрын
Praetorian Guards make things worse, not better.
@erickr199
5 ай бұрын
Is it possible that if Daenerys actually goes mad, Barristan will be challenged between doing the rightfull thing or obeying his queen
@kamenRiderthelast
3 ай бұрын
What "honor" meant in medieval times is very different to what it means now.
@EleanoRa99
5 ай бұрын
Carmine doing a theory video? Never thought I’d see the day ;)
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
more discussion video
@cobaltcrusader9841
5 ай бұрын
Nuh uh Bazor Ahai ain’t letting me down
@bananaforscale1283
5 ай бұрын
He serves the kingdom. As a kings guard all the morals he has to follow is to defend the king whomever they might me. If everyone were such sigma males that don't follow the established rules of medieval world it would turn to chaos.
@elinakeranen4499
5 ай бұрын
Barristan himself thinks he was wrong to serve Robert, and he should have served Targaryens entire time. Of course he went to find Daenerys only after he didn't have another king to serve, but he isn't consciously thinking it's fine to switch from side to side.
@BubblegumCrash332
5 ай бұрын
He is dutiful. I wouldn't say he is a moral charcter. To be fair most characters aren't moral. Its hard to be in that world
@shayannn6385
5 ай бұрын
He is
@madambutterfly1997
5 ай бұрын
He biasedly tries to convince Daenerys that not all of her enemies are terrible people.
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
That is kinda true though, obviously she wouldn't know that but he's not wrong.
@MEGAyognauts
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t think this makes him dishonourable. If anything it makes his character more redeemable. He is bringing reality to Dany’s perspective.
@Godzilla00X
5 ай бұрын
Ned told Robert to f himself when Robert ordered him to end her. He's not in the wrong
@madambutterfly1997
5 ай бұрын
He claims he would have killed Robert if he had saw the man smile at the dead bodies of Elia's children, yet he idly stood by and let Robert send assassins after Daenerys. Being human is not a valid excuse for this amount of inconsistency in characterization
@tiagotimoteo4004
5 ай бұрын
It's the dichotomy of Sor Barristan Selmy, the bold and the coward.
@DildoDaggins69
5 ай бұрын
I've met a whole lot of people in real life who make bold claims to action yet in reality do fuck all. In fact I'd say given long enough, that applies to pretty much every human being various points in their life. I don't really see it as inexcusable inconsistency in characterization, particularly if you're writing in the style GRRM does.
@joefo458
5 ай бұрын
Discuss: does Ser Barristan compare most closely to 1) grizzled law enforcement officer mindset, 2) longtime active duty military mindset, or 3) aging sports superstar mindset? Or some combination thereof?
@BlackwoodSupremacy
5 ай бұрын
I think Barristan would have had an honorable out to help Ned. Since Joffrey was underage, I’m pretty sure Cersei outranks him as queen regent. She could have ordered him to stop the execution.
@V_i_vi_an
5 ай бұрын
Just wanted to point out that Barristan does explain to Dany why he didn't go serve Viserys after Robert took over the throne: 1) he was a kid 2) he was very similar to Aerys according to him. Barristan tells Dany he could see Aerys' madness in Viserys even as a kid, so he didn't want to go serve another mad king, and that's why he started to follow Dany undercover, to check up on her, to see if she had the taint. That's all.
@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin
5 ай бұрын
Barristan tells Dany he absolutely wanted to serve Viserys in Daenerys II, ADwD.
@V_i_vi_an
5 ай бұрын
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin After he was dismissed by Cersei, and Viserys was already grown up, but the moment Robert took over, Barristan didn't want to follow a mentally unstable kid. I'm not trying to argue you, but Barristan did offer reasons why he didn't deflect inmidiately to look for the Targaryen kids, which you said he didn't.
@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin
5 ай бұрын
@@V_i_vi_anI’m not quite getting what you’re saying. Are you saying that Barristan is somehow consistent because he is fine following a mentally unstable man versus a mentally unstable kid? Because, lest we forget, he was fine following Joffrey. The guy just seems all over the map to me.
@V_i_vi_an
5 ай бұрын
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin I'm not saying he's consistent, I'm saying he offers reasons about why he didn't stay with the Targaryens at the time of the rebellion and post rebellion. He also said he stayed with Robert because he thought he was a good warrior (weird reasoning I admit) and also says he was in the wrong and complacent and Joffrey dismissing him kinda woke him up and wanted to redeem himself by searching for Viserys. Yes, he said Viserys was unstable as a kid, but I would think he thought "hey maybe he has changed". He was probably going to do the same thing he did with Dany: arrive in disguise to check if he wasn't insane, which would end up with Barristan going home without a monarch to serve because he was going to realize Viserys was just Aerys 2.0.
@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin
5 ай бұрын
@@V_i_vi_an "I must find the true king, and serve him loyally with all the strength that still remained me."" That doesn't sound like a guy who is thinking "maybe" on anything. He's gung ho (or at least that's his story to Dany.)
@fernandoalvarez9613
5 ай бұрын
Selmy was a middle aged man who wanted to risk it all for a teenage girl (Ashara) and everyone gives him a free pass.
@madambutterfly1997
5 ай бұрын
This isn't a Disney movie there are no free passes
@stephaniec9539
5 ай бұрын
If Selmy was really honorable, he wouldn't have served Robert. I think after he healed he should have went to Viserys or just taken the Black.
@The_Libationist
5 ай бұрын
I would describe him more as duty bound rather than honour bound
@Taveren
5 ай бұрын
Perfect
@sunnydragon722
5 ай бұрын
True. people often say honorable and dutifully as if those 2 things can't be inconspicuous.
@coachmcguirk6297
4 ай бұрын
To Ned, they are one in the same. To break one's word, one's sworn oath, is the most dishonorable thing one can do in his eyes. Duty = Honor
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
Barristan is very much a character who doesn’t want complicated moral questions in his life. He wants to serve his King, do his duty and be remembered as a great Knight, that’s all. The complex, ambiguous morality of what to do when your King is a tyrant or whether you should prolong a war to support his second son instead of accepting the dynasty has been replaced is just not something he’s very interested in. It muddies his neat worldview of the good being behind his shield and the evil in front of his sword, so he takes the path which requires him to think another these questions the least at every opportunity. It’s not that he’s stupid, and certainly not evil, but it is to say that he doesn’t for one second entertain the idea that his moral system is wrong as it is so simplistic and vague that he can’t possibly see how it could be wrong.
@nont18411
5 ай бұрын
Which made Jaime a perfect anti-Barristan (and also anti-Ned).
@jessjess23brooks89
5 ай бұрын
@@nont18411Eh, sorta with Ned. Only because Ned would do plenty of "dishonorable" things to protect children. Any child, no matter what their last name is. Its his crux.
@KaritKtana
5 ай бұрын
This is an EXCELLENT comment
@Krisliet
5 ай бұрын
@@jessjess23brooks89 I, too, think the comparison fits Ned better. Ned basically put all of his children at risk of dying to save other people's children out of what he considers honor. If he was ruled by duty instead of honor, he would've put his children's interests before Cersei's and saved his family a lot of harm.
@jessjess23brooks89
5 ай бұрын
@@Krisliet I don't think he intentionally put other children before his own. His biggest mistake was not realizing his children would be at risk by trying to save the Lannister bastards. He didn't realize what an evil bitch Cersei is when crossed. He should have done his homework before blowing his world up, but that doesn't mean he sacrificed his kids. He lied and swore himself a traitor in writing, because Varys promised it would save Arya and Sansa, which made him a laughing stock of not only Westeros, but Essos as well. So no, it's not a good comparison. Ned isn't as black and white as the rest of his world believes. Or Jon wouldn't be alive.
@authorfarrell7161
5 ай бұрын
So fucked that Alliser has to take the black for his loyalty to the Targs, but Barristan retains his position.
@m.q.7149
2 ай бұрын
Barristan was so well known and highly respected. No one even questions Robert for making sure he gets medical care after the war
@ivanbluecool
5 ай бұрын
Sometimes it feels berry is looking for a place to fall in honor. Scaling the walls to save mad king. The fight with the nine penny kings. Rushing Robert's group and if not for Robert saving him he probably would have gotten his wish there. The night he takes the enemy off guard and then the battle at hand Berry is pretty much trying to live in a folk tale of a hero knight
@dann4044
5 ай бұрын
Aerys' kingsguard and Robert's kingsguard are the same. They are meant to be paralleled when Sansa says they are no true knights. Robert's didn't defend Sansa and Aerys' didn't defend Rhaella.
@jessjess23brooks89
5 ай бұрын
Jaime is a true knight, at least for the most important moment of his life. And I'm ready to fight for that opinion.
@leadfaun
5 ай бұрын
Arys Oakheart is trying his best though.
@Wallace43266
4 ай бұрын
@@leadfaunIn the same way that Quentyn is basically a fantasy trope subversion, Arys tries to be a true knight but completely fails. He fails to realize, like Jaime and Prince Lewyn do, that one doesn't need to keep vows to be a good person
@Mj_Jetson
5 ай бұрын
What did Arthur Dayne do when Aerys burned people? I don't think we ever hear about him being in the room when Aerys was being Aerys? Was he always Rhaegar's sworn shield, going on road trips to Summerhall with the prince, never on Aerys guard duty?
@ivanbluecool
5 ай бұрын
Problem is berristan believes in the law. He follows and enforces it. He had enough with them wanting to remove him and quit to then switch sides. That itself could be dishonorable where he stands by the kingdom regardless of ruler and switch back to the mad king's daughter and his acts especially thinking viserys may be alive. But he also has regrets like ashara dayne and has old old fashion beliefs when you hear how he things about the people around dany.
@ΚατερίναΤσιτσιμπίκου
5 ай бұрын
What buffles me about Ser Barristan is how much he idolizes Rhaegar. He is supposed to be the most honorable knight alive and yet we never see him make a comment about Rhaegar abandoning his wife and children to leave with Lyanna. Where was the honor in that? Even more so that Rhaegar's actions caused a war, and still he didn't bestir himself until half the realm was coming down on his house. So many people dead, his family abandoned and disgraced, so many great houses insulted, and Barristan is like "Rhaegar was the best, he would be a great king, etc etc".
@rakshithanand8262
5 ай бұрын
But he doesn't? His biggest regret is not beating Rhaegar at Harrenhal so that the while rebellion wouldn't happen. He is as weirded out as anyone, he can't reconcile the Rhaegar he knew with thee Rhaegar that died. At least, this is how I see it.
@Carbon2861996
5 ай бұрын
Barristan: I just like to be told what to do Jaime: Is that what it is? Barristan: Even if it's watch a madman commit atrocities, for the next few years it's easy street
@MoonManTheories
5 ай бұрын
I totally agree that if Selmy were present at Ned's execution and Martin wrote it such that he did not interfere, this would be believable given the other choices we are shown. As you both say, they give the impression that he tends to stand by and do nothing. Even so, I still think that it may be Martin's intention to suggest that someone (Littlefinger) was covering his ass by getting rid of Selmy before the execution. One can imagine LF worrying that Selmy might cause trouble, even if we suspect he wouldn't.
@thecriticalmaester9702
5 ай бұрын
Barristan is a soldier. Soldiers follow orders, they don't ask questions. That's the 'honourable' thing to do in this society. Why would Barristan stop Ned's execution when Ned is a self-confessed traitor? 🤷♂ Now, obviously, for us as the audience/reader, we know that Ned is NOT a traitor because we've been privy to his experiences through his POV - but Barristan doesn't know what we know. As far as he's concerned, Ned truly was the traitor that he was accused (and that he confessed) of being. So I don't think Barristan would've saved Ned - and I don't blame him for not having done so. Even with serving The Mad King, I still don't blame him. You guys are too harsh in thinking that he should've. Aerys was his king, so how was he supposed to stand up to him? All Barristan has ever known is to follow orders and not ask questions. Even though The Mad King was obviously... well... mad; there was nothing that Barristan could do either than to stand at his post and do his duty. What was he supposed to do? Burst into the room, pull the Mad King away from Rhaella, and then... what? Kill the king? Flee with the queen? Where would he go where he wouldn't be considered a fugitive? How would he have escaped the castle and fought off his sworn brothers - Arthur Dayne and The White Bull, his lord commander? Basically, in taking action, he would've been signing his own death warrant. Aerys might've accused Barristan of treason for disobeying his orders, walking into his chambers and trying to 'harm' him. He might've even implicated the queen in that conspiracy as well, especially since The Mad King already suspected his own kin of trying to get rid of him. So what exactly would Barristan's actions have won him in that scenario? Death and dishonour, that's all. I think that George's point in these scenario is to show that it's not always easy to do the right thing when you're in a moral dilemma. Sometimes, it's not always easy to know what the right decision is from the wrong. It's exactly as Jaime said, "It's all too much". But that's also why I love these books. Most fantasy authors would purport to know the right decision and present Barristan's actions as cowardice, framing the story as though he were one; but George actually makes you think about it and shows you that it's not always an easy thing to know or figure out. 🤔
@DildoDaggins69
5 ай бұрын
In ADWD, Barristan makes the distinction between a soldier and a warrior, identifying himself as the latter.
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
do you remember the chapter?
@patrickdematosribeiro1845
5 ай бұрын
Would you have pardoned a German war criminal who would have used the very same excuse "I only followed the orders."? I am not saying the mad king is as bad as Hitler , I am just using a drastic example to ask whether it is always right to obey. In this particular case many people say the answwer is no. I don't think any of the King's Guard except Jamie are better than the SS, they just happened to serve a less terrible monster which was mere luck. Unpopular opinion, I know. As to what Barristan could have done when Aerys brutally raped his wife, he could have killed him and hoped that the new king Rhaegar would either pardon him, after all it was his mother who had been abused, or allowed him a trial by combat.
@thecriticalmaester9702
5 ай бұрын
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 This is a very drastic example, but I get what you're trying to say. Of course, a war criminal is different to a soldier. "War criminal" insinuates that the person we're talking about is in a position of authority, making decisions that lead to war; whereas a soldier is a person on the field following the orders of their superiors. It might be different if a soldier goes rogue and start doing things that are outside of the scope of their orders, but if their superior gives them an order and they just follow it, who is truly to blame in that scenario, I wonder? 🤔 In Varys' riddle, he says that the soldier is the one with the power of life and death. That is true. However, when he asks who was truly responsible for the death of Ned Stark, I would answer Joffrey was. The soldier is a pawn and the king (or priest or rich man) is the hand that moves it. It's Joffrey's words that sprung Illyn Payne to act. Do you truly think he would've killed Ned Stark if he weren't given the order? 👀 Yes, the Nazi soldiers did a lot of terrible things during World War 2, but their superiors actively encouraged their brutality. Two things can be true at once. Who was truly responsible for the atrocities of that war? The soldiers or the men who told them to sack the cities that they did? Who is truly responsible for the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan? The pilots who actually dropped the bomb? The military generals who planned the attack? Harry S Truman who gave the thumbs up? Who should really be held responsible? It's a difficult matter to get to the bottom of, that's why Varys's riddle is so mind-fucking. 🤯😭😭 Also, I'm not saying that what Barristan did was right, I'm just saying that it's unfair to suggest that disobeying the orders of his superiors would've been an easy thing for him to just do. It's a lot more complex than that.
@patrickdematosribeiro1845
5 ай бұрын
@@thecriticalmaester9702 I know that it is complex. In the case of the German atrocities in World War Two I think that the generally accepted answer is both. Hitler and his inner circle are deemed responsible, but many soldiers who chose to obey although they had other options were also found guilty and punished. A lot of people approve of this, but argue at the same time that other soldiers in other wars fictional and real ones have no choice and must obey every order they are given. I think this is inconsistent. You can either say that all soldiers have to obey which basically means hardly anyone but Hitler himself should have been punished after World War II or you can say that there is a limit and they should not obey and if possible stop others from obeying if the orders are too terrible. In the latter case the next question is whether the mad King was terrible enough that people shouldn't have obeyed him. I personally think that removing the mad King was justified even before he ordered to burn down King's Landing, particularly for the King's Guard who were knights and had therefore also sworn to protect the innocent.
@BlackwoodSupremacy
5 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s worth pointing out that after the battle of the trident. He didn’t have too many options. Serve Robert, take the black, or die. Running to the tower of Joy wasn’t an option
@christopher-cf8jd
5 ай бұрын
They weren't saying he should run to the tower of joy. They were saying that if he was loyal and honorable like he claimed to be, then he should have run off to support Viserys the first chance he had.
@BlackwoodSupremacy
5 ай бұрын
@@christopher-cf8jd I see what you mean. But that would involve lying to Robert and going against his word in order to escape. All for what? To wander Essos forever and watch Viserys slowly go mad? Robert at the time was actually decent except when it concerned Targaryens. He was king and very merciful. It did seem like he was shaping up to be a good king. Obviously we the audience knows better. There’s a lot of things you can dock Barristan for when it comes to morality. But joining Robert isn’t one of them in my opinion. He had three options and two of them weren’t really options.
@obviousalias132
5 ай бұрын
Well of course he isn’t. The honorable knight would have gone to support Stannis.
@feral7523
5 ай бұрын
Wasn't Barristan shown mercy by Robert and offered his old job back! so yeah could he have refused and if so what would have been done to him if he had? sent to the wall or death so in truth him accepting his old kingsguard job back is understandable and maybe he was happy that Aeyrs was gone and looked forward to a better time and his loyalty to towards his knighthood then to the Targs as politics isn't his thing.
@sunnydragon722
5 ай бұрын
Barristian meeting Septa Lemoore would a interesting way to comfim or deny if its Ashara Dayne. Like when team danny and team aegon finally meet or something. Not likely to happen but fun if it could.
@JonnyAugz
5 ай бұрын
Didn't Robert spare Selmy because he was from the stormlands?
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
Robert respected Barristan as a man and warrior.
@BrayGoesTV
11 күн бұрын
This guy outlived 4 Targaryen kings and 1 Baratheon, He has one of the worst batting averages going for a kingsguard in the history of Westeros.
@anthonymorris7255
Ай бұрын
Their idea of honor is to serve with loyalty. They swear oaths and stand by their oath no matter what. That’s why Ned didn’t respect the Jaime Lannister because he broke his oath and killed the king after the King asked for his father’s head and to burn the city where his family lives but stood by and did nothing when Ned’s father and brother were wrongly and brutally killed in the exact same room. He got along just fine with Ser Barristan even though they fought against eachother at the Trident because they understand loyalty and duty and honor. It’s no hard feelings. They understand how the world works. That’s why Ned said he knew how to die long ago because he was determined to die an honorable man. He understands the world is crooked and you have to choose a side.
@danielchavez919
4 ай бұрын
1:40 Speaking about this part, that's not mentioned in the show but in the animated extras on the GOT DVDs (The Kingsguard narrated by Bronn). Overall, almost everything related to Rhaella was removed, only being mentioned very sparsely here and there as "Dany's mother" (Even Jaime's meeting with the queen's ex was omitted).
@sankarkrishnan407
4 ай бұрын
Barrysten participated in the battle of trident with Rhaegar, fought bravely but defeated. Robert send his master to heal him. The winner Robert forgives him so he had loyalty to Robert. He performed his duty honourably. After Robert he was ready to serve Joffrey. But Cersei dismissed him. So he went to his former masters. What option he have. both Baratheon brothers proclaimed himself as king. If Renly support Stannis he will surely go to Stannis. Barrysten was in a dilemma. But he chose the right one in the end.
@jumblesgaming
4 ай бұрын
Hes a true kingsguard but not a true knight Edit: its kinda like how a maester serves a holdfast not a lord
@chvsmr9369
5 ай бұрын
The editing cuts to the live WITH the sound effect? Damn carmine’s outdone himself
@OfficialRedTeamReview
5 ай бұрын
hahaha
@brendanfechter4889
5 ай бұрын
Please overanalyzing hotd
@robertovaldivia1573
5 ай бұрын
Barristan is a remnant of "back in my day" Sure, the knights of your kingsuard were better fighters, more honorable, men among men. They also stood by and let The Mad King torture and kill Brandon and Rickard Stark, they aided Rhaegar in kidnapping a teenage girl and held her in a tower. Last I checked wasn't Barristan in the throne room when Ned was taken prisoner? Like Preston mentioned near the beginning, Barristan is presented as an honorable knight and man of integrity but when push comes to shove he'll simply follow orders. Like the anti-Sandor he hides behind honor and vows.
@vuminh211
5 ай бұрын
Ned Stark is also not so honourable
@bearforfun
5 ай бұрын
I think Davos the most honourable
@mrwumbo
5 ай бұрын
"The first duty of the Kingsguard is defending the king from harm. They are sworn to obey the king's commands, to keep his secrets, to counsel him when requested and to keep silent when not, and to defend his name and honor." they're supposed to blindly follow the king even if it makes no sense same with the nights watch. He might be stupid for not doing what's OBVIOUSLY right or wrong for not stepping in when he should but that's not his job. I guess if your definition of honor is "1. regard with great respect." and "2. fulfill (an obligation) or keep (an agreement)." then he should be regarded with respect for fulfilling and keeping his vows.
@HovyRedgrave
5 ай бұрын
Out of context gwent art is absolutely phenomenal
@PhilHibbs
5 ай бұрын
I don’t think all these moral questions need to be raised. They are a test for the reader.
@madambutterfly1997
5 ай бұрын
Yeah that's the one thing I will always give Barristan shit for that will ALWAYS put his loyalty in doubt. "You're only here because the Lannisters didn't want you anymore and were too stupid to realize your 'value' as a knight"
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