I've learned a lot from Barry but Bill Evans is not only my favorite piano player, but one of my favorite jazz musicians.
@mrgoodnight7387
10 ай бұрын
And that's fine. There's no law to prohibit anyone to say what their favorite jazz artist is. All of it is art and should all be appreciated
@alighieroalighieri404
9 ай бұрын
@@mrgoodnight7387 I agree with you. However, Barry Harris doesn't seem to be accepting of this basic rule, he'd rather say that Bill Evans music is like manure.He also fails to acknowledge that Evans himself admitted that he learned bebop phrasing from Bud Powell. Barry Harris was a good bebop pianist, but not the most innovative for sure.
@trombonemunroe
7 ай бұрын
@@alighieroalighieri404 All that goes to show is that very educated people can also be very opinionated, that it's not just the province of the uneducated person.
@tiffsaver
4 жыл бұрын
I can easily see how this man would have gotten sick of constantly hearing about Bill Evans. But on the other hand, he is a TEACHER, and supposed to be a little more even handed when he speaks to young minds. Listening to this kind of talk makes me terribly sad.
@carlomorena6728
3 жыл бұрын
Listening to a bunch of young laughing students is even more sad.
@carlomorena6728
3 жыл бұрын
@@Marie-qv6on nobody of us has the right to laugh about Bill Evans. No Jazz Master does it.
@carlomorena6728
3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardgibbon2557 what you say about industry may have sense. Bill may have been 'the new guy' (instead of Paul Bley, for example, that was probably almost as important as him, but not for the piano trio revolution...Bill was the first one ever). Do you love 'some' Evans tracks? Her left us a big heritage, a world of poetry, of silences, of tensions and relax. His voicings were the first amazing modern voicings (they have NO passion??? they are welcome!!) Nobody can play ballads in a previous way, after Bill. And...nobody killed the older but evergreen piano music...nobody will forget stride piano, nobody will ever ignore Eubie Blake, Earl Hines, Art Tatum, the young Basie, Teddy Wilson and their sons...Dick Hyman, Dave McKenna and so on.Bill was, and still is, just something else. One of the most influential pianists ever. Jazz piano simply changed after him.
@chrish12345
3 жыл бұрын
nonsense, its called character and honesty, we need more of both!
@WyattLite-n-inn
3 жыл бұрын
@@carlomorena6728 oh for sure
@timmo491
4 жыл бұрын
Miles Davis said Bill Evans was the greatest pianist and taught him a lot. Bill was a genius he didnt take anyones stuff. You surprise me Barry.
@sitarnut
3 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but Bill invented an entirely new way to play jazz, especially standards.
@timmo491
3 жыл бұрын
@@sitarnut i agree jim. Also miles davis never commented on anyone really so to pick out Bill is something interesting.
@maxwesmont
3 жыл бұрын
@@timmo491 Miles said good things about Ahmad Jamal as well, I think.
@timmo491
3 жыл бұрын
@@maxwesmont totally yes
@garrettsmth
3 жыл бұрын
Barry doesn’t buy the hype on Miles either which is wild
@renatobuchert7879
2 жыл бұрын
I like how he badmouths "In Your Own Sweet Way" but has enough respect for it to insist on getting the composer's name right.
@jimbrown1559
2 жыл бұрын
Barry is one of my very favorite pianists, second only to Bill Evans. I've recorded close to 40 hours of his music, listened to much more. I've shared meals with him, he played for our wedding reception. love him dearly. But I don't share his assessment of Bill Evans.
@skineyemin4276
3 ай бұрын
Barry did like John Coltrane's "Giant Steps" and Bill Evans. Basically anybody who played with Miles in the late 1950s and the "Hard Bop" era.
@TheJazzMemoir
2 жыл бұрын
That way he repeats "get outta here" at :50 is priceless 🤣🤣🤣
@mrpeel3239
Жыл бұрын
His rant is akin to saying that Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, and Keith Jarrett are all overrated since they're not Bill Evans! 😮
@paxwallacejazz
4 жыл бұрын
Man listen to Barry at his best and Evans at his worst... I rest my case. Evans would've never presumed to make these kind of sweeping negative disempowering statements because he was actually a man possessed of great humility. Wow.
@yohenson
3 жыл бұрын
that's actually true. but barry is more offended by putting evans as the end goal of piano players. people just enjoy it as music. not necessarily as learning the way barry is trying to promote. he is an advocate of bop. not of music. and that's his problem
@TehWinnerz
3 жыл бұрын
Bill Evans is the most overrated pianist in all of Jazz and its because he is white
@JohnsonSmithson
3 жыл бұрын
@@TehWinnerz he's just good, deal with it
@TehWinnerz
3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsonSmithson yeah he's pretty good at times but so many white jazz fans talk about him like he's the GOAT and its just laughable. Not even top 50.
@zu0832
3 жыл бұрын
Goat of all time? Are you confusing sports with music?
@l.romain6447
3 ай бұрын
I agree with Barry, bill evans music was missing something, i literally don’t feel anything when I listen to him. Unlike bud powell , I hear so many interesting phrases n stimulates me
@stangetz534
5 жыл бұрын
I wish I was in nyc. i'd be at his classes all the time.
@itsRemco
3 жыл бұрын
@Cj McCollum 👀
@spb7883
3 жыл бұрын
To say that Barry Harris is entitled to his opinion is an understatement: he’s Barry Harris! What I can’t stand are the sycophants around him. He has his reasons for his opinions, while they don’t even have their own.
@tarzan2857
5 жыл бұрын
I like the way he interacts with students and people.
@a2zpiano
5 жыл бұрын
Barry Harris is the best , great jazz educator,. He helps make sense of jazz I understand his chord structures pretty well building from the diminished 6 scale ... and how the dominant chords from diminished 7th are related .. Jazz is made made eAsier with an understandingly of these concepts .. I teach those concepts to my students all the times locally and in my channel
@matthewreed2614
9 ай бұрын
take barry with a grain of salt, he dismisses herbie hancock as well
@teamyordle23
3 жыл бұрын
I can sort of get where he's coming from. It would be like people mentioning Chet Baker everytime someone talks about jazz when Miles Davis exists. Not to put Chet down or anything but Miles is more influential. Bill Evans too is important, the changes on "Blue In Green" are a masterpiece. But there are others who've worked harder to put great songs out there and yet it won't be heard because all people generally talk about are Bill Evans. And the less those are people are talkdd about, the more they'll be forgotten with time.
@zu0832
3 жыл бұрын
Bill worked his ass off and paid his dues
@SSMLivingPictures
10 ай бұрын
I like Bill Evans and Bud Powell. This guy seems like a used up old crank
@jean-paulpeek7823
3 жыл бұрын
Barry Harris is a great pianist and teacher, but I hate him dissing other musicians.
@a_perfect_human_being
3 жыл бұрын
"I listened to Hank Jones and it's more Bill Evans than Bill Evans" I mean...sure. They're similar in some ways, but Hank plays too peppy and bright. Has that dude ever heard Bill Evans solo sessions after hearing Hanks solo stuff? How the fuck can you compare the two? Bill is that shit you listen to late at night when no one is awake. And it's just you and yourself with your own thoughts and reflections. I couldn't possibly get into that mood with Hank. It is kinda fun to hear this kinda trash talk though. That's how the game is!
@92ninersboy
3 жыл бұрын
Hank Jones is nothing like Bill Evans - the student was talking out of his butt. Hank Jones has a closer affinity to Nat Cole, but having absorbed bebop. His touch is also more similar to Nat's. Interestingly Nat Cole was a very strong early influence on both Hank and Bill, so that might be a connection between the two. I'm certain though that Jones wasn't a specific influence on Evans but it would be difficult for Hank to escape the spell that Evans had cast on jazz piano starting in the late 50's and through the 60's - you heard his influence popping up everywhere, even in a great post-Bud Powell pianist like Hampton Hawes.
@zdunas23
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus CHrist, how the two can even be compared to that degree. Bill's sound and voicings are often so European that it almost sounds like classical music, especially his solo stuff. Hank's sound, on the other hand, was much more rooted in bop and black music
@macattack4361
3 жыл бұрын
hey Mr. Barry. You are definitely a first rate pianist but Bill Evans was to me also a great
@vidrojas31
3 жыл бұрын
Un pobre viejo señor amargo... se lo perdona por la vejez.... habrá sido un gran pianista .... pero hablar pavadas de un Maestro como Bill Evans que nunca hablo mal de nadie pero quién cambio la manera de tocar el piano jazz es una ridiculez e injusticia.... Bud Powell admiraba a Bill desde Francia con Francis Paudras...también es feo hablar mal de George Cables que puede no gustar pero es un señor pianista... así que el Maestro Harris permanezca como un excelente pianista agrio de secunda categoría porque no es ni Oscar Peterson ni Bud Powell ni Art Tatum ni Bill Evans ni Wynton Kelly ni Red Garland ni McCoy Tuner ni Jimmy Rowles ni Horace Silver ni Tommy Flanagan ...la historia musical y sus disparates le darán su verdadero lugar... Con todo mí respeto
@zdogg8
3 жыл бұрын
While I agree with you, mostly, as far as old/bitter - I think you don't give full value to Mr. Harris' contribution to jazz discography, he is an important player, though perhaps without the level of notoriety of SOME the others you mention. One could equally substitute Tommy F. or Jimmy R. in your statement - those two are also not that well known, actually. Harris is known to the bebop and hard bop fans, for sure - the true aficianados, not casual fans. His contributions as an educator excede ALL of the pianists you mention, so there is that. He was the MAIN teacher to the Motown tribe in Detroit, for one, so his influence is HUGE in that regard alone.
@gerredy
6 ай бұрын
Sorry but bill is the king, no doubt about that
@zvonimirtosic6171
2 жыл бұрын
The point is simple; to Barry Harris, Bill Evans did not play jazz. And Barry Harris is right, which he tries to explain by stating when he was a teenager, when players older than him were teenagers and were playing etc. Bill Evans played some type of improvised, experimental music, but it wasn't jazz. This is the problem, when the music is suddenly re-defined not by the players who defined it, but by the arbiters of public taste, college professors, magazine critics, "new kids" etc. who believe that any kind of "wild improvisation" must be jazz. All those other people, who never played jazz (or very little of it), have re-defined what jazz is. And have proclaimed that Bill Evans, Miles Davis, later career of John Coltrane etc. is jazz - albeit it wasn't jazz at all. It was purely experimental music. Many things got re-defined, identity of things stolen, we see that nowadays at every turn - everything is becoming re-defined. And that has screwed up younger generation, who play highly experimental music with impossible jumbled-up theory, and think "they are jazzing". Everything is screwed up, people deluded, and Barry has a right to be angry at that.
@frankybebop2913
Жыл бұрын
Well, bebob “redefined” jazz as well… all music is redefined all the time. That’s how it has always been, and I think that’s how it will continue to be…
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out
9 ай бұрын
jazz is just a word a homie. rejected by many, esp. black artists. To say that Evans did not play jazz (as jazz musicians play it and perceive it) is absurd. Mile Davis and his band were playing "jazz" What would you call it? "experimental improvised"? He was the 6th link in a chain of jazz musicians playing jazz. It's not like it DIDN't FUCKING WORK on stella by starlite. What you wrote is complete busllshit. shut up and go learn to play the piano, Harris or Evan's Style. Just please don't making yourself sound so stupid,. Evans's playing was not as rooted in the blues as most black pianist's of the time, Neither is Tito Puente's But Puente played jazz, not some formless, genreless, c avant garde non jazz experimental improvised music, completely separate from the tradition. He listened to and admired and studied Bud Powell at the onset, as did Barry Harris. They just went different routes . Experimenting. AND. you silly ignorant child, JAZZ?? it was only ever and always, ALL experimental, every time you sit down and play. Whether you're Louis Armstrong or Mingus or Evans . If you actually played you'd know that. every time you play.
@SightNSoundBand
3 жыл бұрын
This guy just dropped in my eyes...he's WAY too disrespectful to Bill Evans...totally off base...
@michaelmullmusic
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone jumping all over Barry Harris, I think you may be reading into his tone a little much. He's coming across as mad or bitter but I think it's frustration. Frustration that often students and younger musicians that he interacts with are unaware of some of the musicians that he feels are the most important musicians in jazz. It's his opinion on something that is his entire life's passion, so nobody should be surprised if he has strong opinions! As an educator I think he could have been a bit more diplomatic, or at least more specific. As a musician and person, let him talk some shit! Let him be frustrated! Musicians are humans and are emotional beings.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
And why are so many worthy figures forgotten? Go into it!
@michaelmullmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@georgemcfetridge8310 it seems to me a big reason many great figures are forgotten is simply that there are so many great musicians throughout history. Another major reason is the sway that critics, writers, magazines, and today KZitem, has over who gets "pushed" to the forefront. The musicians that are "pushed" may or may not be the most important/influential in everyone's view. Like it or not, this has always been the case and continues to be.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmullmusic You and I are both talking about the publicity machine, brought to a fine art in the US, where PR was invented a century ago. When you say 'so many great musicians throughout history' you're using the discourse that the machine wants you to use. Actually, greatness in any field is quite rare. Anyone who buys into this manipulative state of affairs is a stooge. Particularly since 2020, there's a pervasive smothering of critical faculty in the world. NO to that dehumanization.
@michaelmullmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@georgemcfetridge8310 I appreciate what you are saying. I would hope to humanize, rather than dehumanize, in that I believe the rare "greatness" you speak of is present in all musicians who sincerely and lovingly contribute their time to the music. And so, to me it isn't so much rare in general, but perhaps rare in a concentrated amount in an individual. What words would you choose in place of "so many great musicians throughout history"?
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmullmusic How about 'so much to listen to on recordings'? Which leads back to the commodification of art, which is the elephant in the room. If it's a record, it's not music, it's recorded music. We've lost the sense of the profound difference between the two.
@sunnysaxman
3 жыл бұрын
Art Tatum, Hank Jones, Bill Evans, George Cables, Barry Harris. All different flavours of genius. And I do love hearing the old school cats talking about it all. But I do owe a huge debt to Barry. His classes turned my musical world around when I was a young musician.
@murrayr7703
2 жыл бұрын
Except the rest of those guys did spend their lives criticizing other artists. This man has a sever case of Insecurity. Mommy must not have hugged him.
@bronzewand
2 жыл бұрын
@@murrayr7703 Criticism can be a great thing.. it all depends on how you respond to it.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
It's easy to say pleasantly hip things instead of digging into the serious issues that BH touches on.
@Alic4444
Жыл бұрын
@@bronzewand Probably criticizing a dead person has less ability to get a response.
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out
9 ай бұрын
"didn't" @@murrayr7703
@digsjazzalot
4 жыл бұрын
Great older cats like this always have opinions about other players. It’s entertaining. To be taken with a grain of salt. He’s a treasure. Just like who you like.
@paxwallacejazz
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure ok
@digsjazzalot
3 жыл бұрын
@@paxwallacejazz well it sounds like you could use a little more Barry in your playing, that is, solid bebop language. I’m not hearing it so maybe Barry has a point.
@therealrussellsmyth
3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@shaolin1derpalm
2 жыл бұрын
So this guy doesn't sound as good as Barry, therefore Bill Evans is nothing?
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
What complacency!
@rontomkins6727
3 жыл бұрын
I met Barry. I went to a lot of his Masterclasses and of course, I was exposed to his rantings. He comes from a line of musicians who are very conservative about the style of music they are teaching. Just like my Classical piano teacher, who loved Bach, Beethoven and Chopin but couldn't stand music by Bartok or Prokofiev. And that's fine, as I learned a lot from her too. When you get to meet these amazing teachers, you take whatever wisdom you can from them, and incorporate it in your life. You don't have to agree with them on everything (And I even think it's healthier not to, otherwise you turn them into Cult Leaders) Barry has every right to dismiss Bill Evans as a total fool. And I have every right to find Evans one of the most influential pianists ever to exist. When it comes to music learning, it's just like with everything else music-related, as Miles used to say when defining music: "You take what you need and you leave out the rest". I learned a lot from Barry in regards to voicing, harmonization, and the application of the Diminished scale in tonal harmony, and I also loved him as a human being.
@AlexVonCrank
3 жыл бұрын
He’s not dead dude. Not yet...
@rontomkins6727
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexVonCrank Yeah, I can see how it may have sounded like I implied he's no longer with us in my use of the "loved" but that was not my intention. If anything, I hope he lives for many many years.
@Taylor-eg4ud
2 жыл бұрын
@@rontomkins6727 damn…
@mambojazz1
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexVonCrank R.I.P. Barry Harris😪
@AlexVonCrank
2 жыл бұрын
@@mambojazz1 RIP
@ramazkhatiashvili5440
4 жыл бұрын
Putting Bill Evans down like this is just ridiculous. You don't need to do that in order to emphasize the greatness of Bud or Hank. They are great anyway, as well as Bill. And no, they don't sound alike.
4 жыл бұрын
I too am SICK of people always talking about Bill Evans. I suggest you listen to some Barry Harris, Bud Powell and Wynton Kelly before you even start with praising how great he was. I was in a room once where Barry Harris spoke about the six diminished scale, and it was an experience to remember. Barry Harris is the most underrated jazz pianist there was. Far greater player than Bill.
@WELCOME2PATSPLACE
4 жыл бұрын
fuck outta here. Bill Evans was amazing!
@ScottlandShaffner0423
4 жыл бұрын
Bud Powell was rivited by Bill's early playing, and once asked in an interview about Bill in 1963 said: "He's nice. He can play."
@ScottlandShaffner0423
4 жыл бұрын
@ read the bio 'Dance of the Infidels' by Francis Paudras, Bud's caretaker in Paris ?? It's in there. Francis used to play Bill's early records for Bud and he sat there, listened intently, and asked "Who is that? What's his name?". Bud was known for putting few pianists above himself, except for Tatum, his idol. So words from coming from Bud re Bill are high praise, since he usually talked little. Francis wanted to introduce Bud and Bill to each other in NYC 1964, sadly never happened..
@ScottlandShaffner0423
4 жыл бұрын
@ go to kzitem.info/news/bejne/pW2Ks3dviphyopg at 4:30 ...
@vegetathe4th376
Жыл бұрын
Maybe he is sick and tired of Bill Evans popularity among jazz pianists.
@johndimartino4468
2 жыл бұрын
This is BULL SHIT! I am sorry that Barry spoke this way about Bill Evans! Bill was totally a disciple of Bud Powell. You can hear that in his early paying. Bill then went on to innovate his own style, and after Bud, Bill is chronologically the next most important influence in the development of Jazz Piano! I think the issue is that some may have envied Bill's commercial success and that clouds their judgment!
@sallemjazz1
10 күн бұрын
Yes John. Agreed on all counts.
@titchner211c
4 жыл бұрын
I think many of you who have posted here are missing the point. This isn't an attack on Bill Evans, but this is an attack on anything called Jazz that comes after Be Bop! Barry has said Miles Davis's modal music is not jazz. To Barry, anything post post-BeBop is not Jazz. It was just on this day, he was talking about Bill Evans. On other days, he would talk badly about Miles Davis or Coltrane.. Barry has condemned modal Jazz before. "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis is known probably as the best Jazz album of all time (if there is such a thing). All Jazz aficionados consider "Kind of Blue," if not the greatest Jazz album of all time, at least on the top five greatest jazz albums of all time. I've heard Barry Harris say modal music is not jazz, and "Kind Of Blue" mostly modal. So, what many consider the best Jazz album (or one of the best) of all time, Barry would not even consider it Jazz.I've heard Barry Harris condemn Coltrane's "Giant Steps!" So, what you are hearing here is not bitterness, but musical dogma. Nevertheless, Barry can opine about Bill Evans, and on other days Miles Davis and Coltrane; however, Barry is a musical genius. He's not bitter. Bitterness is for losers, but Barry is a winner. He is around 90 years old, and still going strong. Among Jazz musicians, he is viewed like a God when he visits Europe and does his workshops. He has nothing to be bitter about. What you are hearing is not bitterness, but the teacher in him. All teachers are dogmatic to a certain extent, and he no exception.
@TheLazyClips
2 жыл бұрын
I could not have said it better.
@justiceisnow3162
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Coltrane, Davis, Giant Steps and the like all contributed to the ruination of Jazz and Jazz musicians … especially saxophonists. In order to play like Coltrane you need a loose setup so everyone sounds like they are playing a kazoo now and its all histrionics. Nobody has the guts to play slow and find a melodic line and develop it … Max Ionata and Scott Hamilton being the exceptions. All these musicians destroying themselves to learn a tune they will never play on a gig and if they do you can be certain the audience doesn’t have a clue what they are hearing.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
The greatest album? Armstrong's 1927-28 work surpasses everything since for freshness, invention, deep excitement, meaning, joy. Second to that is Bird's 'Koko' session of 1945. I'm sure not one commenter here will go with this.
@Alic4444
Жыл бұрын
Perfect.
@hypecleffon2655
Ай бұрын
@@georgemcfetridge8310 Maybe not commentors here, but live, in the real world, a high quality band playing 1920's Armstrong (with some occasional early Bird and Dizzy bebop) reliably appeals to listening and dancing folks. Even the roots music-deprived jazz crowds will go with it surprisingly well!
@eliaslapia6987
4 жыл бұрын
Great piano player, great musical teacher... But those statements about Bill Evans, George Cables and in other videos Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock are dangerous; teach students music non what they should like. Music is bigger than an opinion
@carlomorena9759
4 жыл бұрын
MUCH bigger.
@fulldonates7685
4 жыл бұрын
You said it best
@BobWijnen
4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't the biggest fan of Chick either, although his skills and legacy are undeniable. But since he has his Facebook Live thing going on every single night... You've got to admit that this guy is giving, and giving, and giving so much! I just put his, in my opinion, ridiculous church aside, just as I put Dr Barry's dissing aside. I've got no time for that, only for their music and the positive things I can learn from them.
4 жыл бұрын
@@BobWijnen George Cables? Get the hell on out of here... And why do people always harp on Bill being the greatest. Get out of here with that BULL. You ever hear Hank Jones my friend? Or Barry for that matter? Barry play like no other... Ain't no competition even.
@BobWijnen
4 жыл бұрын
@ music is no competition at that level. And oh yeah, I just bought Tiptoe Tapdance by Hank Jones and even met him backstage at North Sea Jazz, years ago. I also was invited by Dr Barry Harris to his house, where I played on Monk's piano next to Barry. You know what we played? Isn't she lovely, by Stevie Wonder. Thank you very much!
@jonathansmith3262
4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect to Jon Raney (who plays better than I ever will) and the other excellent folks here, I don’t think this is primarily about jealousy or sour grapes. I think it’s primarily that Barry is sad and angry that, in his view, jazz took a wrong turn and the wrong people became the main influences. I don’t think he’s trying to cut Bill Evans or Dave Brubeck or anyone, per se, so much as he’s angry that most piano students will be taught that playing like Bill Evans is the right, modern way to play. (At least I was.) And as to it being lame for him to say this, I think what a teacher says in class to his students should reflect his actual thinking. This isn’t like Michael Jordan cutting people in a public speech. I love Barry and have always found him warm (especially after he’s criticized someone). Sorry to see the anger here - I think if you listen to him enough you’d hear that it’s mostly about his frustration about the way the music went. Not his personal jealousy/pettiness. (FWIW, I love Bill Evans.)
@Caravaggio44
4 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's sour grapes and jealousy. There may also be a racial component.
@marcusstoica
4 жыл бұрын
Barry loves Bill too. He was making a very specific point. Great post.
@citynocomment4685
4 жыл бұрын
I was there and I completely agree.
@GrumpyStormtrooper
4 жыл бұрын
Conservatories teach to play jazz like Bill Evans and Keith Jarrett, I want to distance myself from that to have my own voice with my own influences.
@ComradeGiru
3 жыл бұрын
@@Caravaggio44 i always felt that there was sort of an unconscious racial component when people talked about bill evans like he was the epitome of jazz piano.
@JerryAttric42
2 жыл бұрын
i just made a discovery while on Amazon looking for info on Bud Powell. there is a paperback memoir about Powell called "Dance of the Infidels." i will give you 3 guesses who wrote the forward to this book - none other than Bill Evans! a direct quote from Evans: “If I had to choose one single musician for his artistic integrity, for the incomparable originality of his creation and the grandeur of his work, it would be Bud Powell.” those words could have easily been written by Harris himself, but perhaps the fact that Evans was chosen to write the forward only increased his resentment.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
Easy for him to say. He had the machine behind him; unlike Powell.
@daartiz01
3 жыл бұрын
Telling Bill Evans sounds like Hank Jones is ridiculus! And Bill’s artistry is not only about “jazz”. His sonority is up to par with Horowitz or Rubinstein... you name it, his pianism is in that league. Then his compositions? BarryHarris’s orthodoxy and tribalism just get out of the way time to time, it is not new to me!
@daniel67797
5 жыл бұрын
This is fucking hilarious. Classic Barry; stubborn, savage and still legendary at the ripe old age of 90 something.
@paxwallacejazz
3 жыл бұрын
Sure ok
@MrRickywallace
2 жыл бұрын
Racist,too!
@MrRickywallace
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, racist--up North in Yankee Land, it's okay to be a Black racist or drool over Black racists. Down here, he wouldn't last 10 minutes.
@daniel67797
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRickywallace lmao you are so fragile
@MrRickywallace
2 жыл бұрын
@@daniel67797 No, I am tough. I come back when I see Whites racially attacked.
@bla8859
4 жыл бұрын
i can listen to bill evans for ever, so some like apples, some like rhubarb, i used love raw onions and cheese, everybody is different, thank goodness, and bud and bill are totally different, also to our great fortune
@vidrojas31
3 жыл бұрын
bud used to listen to Bill Evans recordings in France with Francis Paudras and considered him like a promising talent
@lol-ui9bt
4 жыл бұрын
Ironically Bill Evans said his single greatest influence was Bud Powell LOL why is he so salty
@eanico5551
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think Barry Harris is educated on Bill Evans in my opinion. He is just talking his mouth off.
@guidemeChrist
3 жыл бұрын
Too bad you can't hear it in his playing though. It's like he just listed a great whose name he knew but never really listened to
@zu0832
3 жыл бұрын
@@guidemeChrist No way... that is so insulting.... have you listened to Bill's early stuff? You can definitely hear Bud's influence. Stop with the disrespect...
@davidpellow4877
3 жыл бұрын
@@zu0832 Right and isn't the idea to find your own voice? Take what came before and develop your own approach. Bill took Beethoven and Bud (many more) and made his own voice. I love BH but his vibe is extremely negative and not a good influence.
@afonsosousa2684
3 жыл бұрын
@@guidemeChrist If you can't hear it in his playing, you should probably invest in some ears.
@ltravail
2 жыл бұрын
The man's enormous dedication and contribution to jazz, especially to jazz education and promotion, entitles him to be a bit cranky in his old age...not that he wasn't always strongly opinionated to begin with. I'm sure Bill Evans would have understood it was just old Barry being the same old Barry. Another point of light leaves this world when souls like Barry Harris and Bill Evans cross over to "death's other kingdom", as the TS Eliot poem goes. Interesting to hear Barry bring up Art Tatum..."he was too much for all of us"! Seems like any time I pull up a video of an older jazz guy talking about jazz Art Tatum somehow always comes up. As Tatum is so little known to the general public these days, it's hard for most people to get their heads around how stunningly phenomenal he really was, and why so many other great jazz (and classical) musicians put him in a class of his own and talk of him with authentic reverence. They weren't joking when they use to say about Tatum "God is in the house"!
@baileyayyy5085
2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the funk kiddies who never understood Barry and missed out on all his wisdom. All my jazz friends think of him as stuck up but he's just honest about his own taste. People cant handle other peoples opinions for some reason.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
People here on this thread don't even understand what he's really getting at! But that's youtube 'culture' for you.
@peterandreadakis3851
Жыл бұрын
Harris was a limited pianist lacking a singular voice and a exceedingly jealous man. Maybe even a little racist that a white cat was so great playing and writing jazz. To his credit Miles always knew the greatness of Bill Evans, from day one.
@baileyayyy5085
Жыл бұрын
@@peterandreadakis3851 Sounds like barry wasn't the jealous one lmao. Stay mad that real cats will never respect funk
@paxwallacejazz
4 жыл бұрын
EVEN After Miles Evans encountered huge rejection by club owners and sadly some some blacks (listen to his last interview taped in his car) many on the scene black musicians were up for being in his trio but didn't need the political rejection. So here's some more from Barry Harris. Oh well.
@guitarmainly
4 жыл бұрын
Competitive Jazz? Oxymoronic. A silly conversation.
@BirdBop
4 жыл бұрын
It's how Jazz was born
@Ayo.Ajisafe
4 жыл бұрын
@@BirdBop battling hip hop battles are just an extension of this mentality. I saw this in the film Cadillac records. Muddy Waters and co used to do it. But they don't get it.
@zdogg8
3 жыл бұрын
Seek out Oscar Peterson reflections on "cutting" contests......Jazz is VERY competitive, though we might consider it more "friendly" competition than outright cut-throat. Many have objected to 'contests' - same in classical field. But there's no getting around a certain competitiveness in a crowded field with less jobs than job seekers.
@vova47
5 жыл бұрын
Bill Evans presented a problem for that part of black jazz community who insists that jazz is black music only. He was an innovator, totally original with solid roots in swing and bebop. He was one of the few white jazz musicians whose concept influenced nearly every pianist of his generation and younger of every race and nationality. As good as Barry is or has been, his whole concept is not original but coming directly from Bud Powell, whereas Bill has learned from Bud but came up with his own style.
@fullViewJay
5 жыл бұрын
vova47 i thought he was a classical musician
@vova47
4 жыл бұрын
Bill Evans was classically educated but a true jazz musician.
@robpate1226
4 жыл бұрын
There’s a big difference between Bill and Barry.
@charlesperforms
4 жыл бұрын
if you listen to Bill Evans' early records, a lot of it came from Bud Powell. but Bill eventually evolved into his own style
@ScottlandShaffner0423
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, AND Bill brought all that wonderful Classical training from his college days at Southeastern Lousiana U.
@hansmagnusmalcolmsen9354
4 жыл бұрын
I read all the comments and most of them has nothing or very little to do with what Barry Harris said in the video.
@breakfastplan4518
3 жыл бұрын
What's really sad is that an old black man who has done more for music( than every commenter here combined )can't have an opinion about the very environment he helped to shape. That's what's really sad.
@mdb7478
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately taking into account the beauty of someone else’s beauty and developed voice is absent in this segment.
@iampetergriffin
3 жыл бұрын
1) I'm Black American (Or "African American") and can see misunderstandings in the comments here. People are critical of his tone but he really has no malice behind his words. In our culture this is just how we speak, he's being chill, laid back, and just shooting the shit with these people as if they were his family or if he were at the barber shop. As I'm listening to him it's like I'm listening to my dad, my mother, my uncle, and just having a good time. Not all cultures will understand this, but thankfully we live in a society where we accept cultural differences, no? 2) He is a competitor. He is no different than an athlete on the field or court. You may not always hear your favorite athlete or musician talk their shit - not everyone has the testicular fortitude to say what they really feel on camera for all to hear - but you better believe that they do. 3) Lastly, he is being honest and true, what you see is what you get; unlike others who smile in your face and talk behind your back.
@matthewnewton2753
3 жыл бұрын
Barry Harris is a good pianist but definitely second tier compared to Bill. Not in the same league.
@iampetergriffin
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewnewton2753 I wholeheartedly disagree. When you use the term "pianist" you are speaking in terms of having greater "piano technique" - which he did not. Bill Evans is far, far more known for his musical works/compositions than he is for being a great "pianist." He most certainly is *not* above Barry Harris in music theory it's most probably the other way around.
@matthewnewton2753
3 жыл бұрын
@@iampetergriffin ok sure pal
@iampetergriffin
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewnewton2753 Alright, buddy.
@brothercaleb
2 жыл бұрын
@@iampetergriffin amazing take down 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@aravartanian7578
4 жыл бұрын
First, let me say I don't begrudge artists having strong opinions about other artists. The thing about Bill Evans, for me, is: there may not be any one thing Bill Evans did better than anyone else. But he did so many things so well and he did a huge diversity of things. There's a lot of great early swing. His My Funny Valentine with Jim Hall is very bop, right down to the shell voicings. He has enormous diversity and complexity in his ballad arrangements. His solos feel much less like solos and more like fully realized compositions. People are obsessed with him, but if you're honest, not a lot of people sound like him. That kind of improvisation through motive development is very hard to teach, very hard to imitate.
@didon8460
3 жыл бұрын
nobody sounds like bill evans.
@zdogg8
3 жыл бұрын
Insightful comments. I think MANY try to sound like Bill, but as you suggest, easier said than done. Still, his voicings (no one can claim a particular voicing, but his overall harmonic approach) are his legacy, if there is such a thing, and I'd say yes to that.
@matthewnewton2753
3 жыл бұрын
well said sir
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
Bud Powell did all those things with more artistic force. It's obvious.
@peterandreadakis3851
Жыл бұрын
The last two lines in this review are brilliant and true.
@jamesjazzy8040
10 ай бұрын
Ironically, I think every piano player that barry harris put down is better than barry harris... He's a simple pianist...that's all...
@akmuk7
2 жыл бұрын
I dig Barry, but Bill Evans style is timeless in my opinion. He was amongst that core group of musicians ushering in that modern sound, and has contributed greatly to the musical literature. Truly gifted in his own right.
@rodterrell304
2 жыл бұрын
Sure he was..love Bill Evans piano . Berry had an opinion and that’s fine. .
@stephenbellotti2036
Жыл бұрын
Bill Evans is a musical genius and a pioneer. But Barry Harris is an excellent music teacher too.
@georgemcfetridge8310
Жыл бұрын
BE lacks guts or body-groundedness, good a musician as he was. This is obvious if he's heard back to back with Horace Silver, his contemporary. Can't hear the difference? Your loss.
@peterandreadakis3851
Жыл бұрын
Barry was another jealous, limited black musician who simply lacked the musical imagination to match his narcissism and, truth be told, was a supreme racist. (Cecil Taylor was another one.) In this video Barry excels at name dropping and shooting off his mouth with an impressionable youthful audience.
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out
9 ай бұрын
Give it a rest home wipe. Your preferences, and what you think of as your amazingly perceptive ears don't mean shite to nobody no how. Blakey needed hard bopping funkster Silver, and Miles preferred Evans touch and chord colorings, like on Stella, where he also plays a pretty gutsy, Red Garland style block chord solo, but with the Evans upper structures, which apparently were stolen from Hank Jones, according to Harris. "hmmm really? ...?? to that claim.... But, probably, not "gutsy and grounded enough" for you. YEs, of course we can hear the difference, McFelcher. Night and Day difference. But I'll take Les McCann over Silver any day, for "guts and grounded" bluesy, rootsy, funky piano playing. "Can you hear the difference" ? between McCann and Silver? And Evans. Yes, we can. what an arrogant and dumbass thing to ask, on a jazz posting. Of course of we hear the difference(s), Evans with qualities that Silver lacked, other than your abstract and vaguely named qualities. Subtler dynamic touch, enormous and far deeper and wider (and original) harmonic palette. Oh, sorry, not original. He stole his whole sound from Hank Jones, I forgot. pshhh Of course we hear the differences Georgy boy. We just don't set ourselves up as a superior judge of pianistic qualities like you sho nuff did. Trying to do it all sly and ironic and clever, too. And failed. Go practice your licks and stfu. Of course the difference is OBVIOUS. That's why you didn't even need to point it out. . @@georgemcfetridge8310
@KevinBrightman
3 жыл бұрын
This is a great discussion. I studied with Walter Bishop Jr., Jaki Byard and took Masterclass with Barry Haŕris. I remember hearing a tape Jaki Byard played for me from someone who recorded him in 1949 and it was amazing. Even before Bill Evans Jaki Byard was using that style of playing. All pianist have something different to offer far as technique, phrasing and harmony. Everyone is influenced by someone. That’s how you develop your style.
@jimkost2002
2 жыл бұрын
Jaki was a genius ahead of his time. I was honored to study with him for a brief time and it changed me forever.
@calichav
4 жыл бұрын
Lol! Bill Evans is an artist first and a pianist second. His art is so damn beautiful. Harris is a pianist first. I take his remarks from that point of view
@robl9523
4 жыл бұрын
Smart comment.
@BirdBop
4 жыл бұрын
Wtf does this even mean.
@AntonStruzik
4 жыл бұрын
Zenit D learn and grow maybe you’ll figure
@BirdBop
4 жыл бұрын
@@AntonStruzik stop getting too romantic. Every is an artist at some level. Expression is nothing special, as even bill Evans says. I would say it takes a lot of piano training before any level of art exists. I'd even say some musicians are not artists. What was said was frankly ridiculous and can't be quantified in any way except naively
@vova47
4 жыл бұрын
Bill was a Great artist and a GREAT pianist. As great as anybody in jazz.
@randomchannel-px6ho
3 жыл бұрын
No one's opinion is gospel. Little needs to be said about Barry Harris and his great influence, but his opinion expressed here is frankly, trash. Not because of his feelings about Bill's music, but rather for the complete dismissal of any merit it has. Bill Evans isn't Art Tatum. Bill Evans isn't Bud Powell. Bill Evans is Bill Evans. Bill Evans was openly heavily influenced by many bop musicians and played bop himself quite well, but every genre has it's heyday and quite simply things become tired and the world moves on. Bill Evans took heavy inspiration from the harmonic exploration of the late romantics like Debussy, the new modal theory of George Russell, and his own mastery of the bop language to craft a unique style of playing that progressed Jazz forward. And that is something to be admired.
@leojbramble
3 жыл бұрын
Not cool to have this up on KZitem. Barry allows one and all to sit in on his weekly informal, intimate workshops for a modest fee, and even allows the students to record him and their own instruction for their own future reference, but it seems like a bit of a violation to post these informal comments publicly; he doesn't even allow his dedicated, longtime students to publish written recaps of his weekly sessions on facebook, so I'm fairly certain he wouldn't be cool with this. Bad form.
@jengzarate9087
4 жыл бұрын
Keith Jarrett doesnt like art Tatum plays too much notes according to jarret ...vice versa as Harris to Evans..i guess we all are diffrent in views and tastes..I respect both of them ..Bill Evans is my influence his music is expressiive and sophisticated.
@TheDubChronicles
4 жыл бұрын
Jarrett is full of it. He doesn't have the mental capacity to understand the nuances of what Tatum was doing. This no doubt contributes to Jarrett's fruity sound.
@vova47
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDubChronicles You are so right! I couldn't express it better myself.
@afairbien
4 жыл бұрын
Respect to you Broth ... Well Said
@BirdBop
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who disrespects what came before is naive.
@adamhenry98
4 жыл бұрын
keith never said anything like that haha
@stephenpopovichl122
3 жыл бұрын
Bad comment to young students-how can you minimize the genius of Bill Evans-Jealous??
@thomassimmons8041
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's jealous.. he's a bad cat himself. He's a disciple of Bud Powell
@TehWinnerz
3 жыл бұрын
Whilst I think BH should have more tact to talk like this to *students* (who you should always try to encourage), (conversations about race, on the other hand, should be had with as much honesty and frankness as possible) that's exactly the point. In no way was Bill Evans a genius. Other, black, musicians were but they don't anywhere near the stature that Bill Evans enjoys amongst white folk. Bill Evans is fine, good even. I'm ok with saying that - I'm just exhausted seeing the constant elevation of Evans above his black colleagues. Jaki Byard. Eroll Garner. Teddy Wilson. Duke Ellington. Andrew Hill. Geri Allen. Herbie Hancock (tho to be fair he is maybe tied with BE in terms of popularity). Keith Jarrett. Bud Powell. Cedar Walton. Thelonious Monk. McCoy Tyner. Chick Corea. Kenny Kirkland. Richard Muhal Abrahams.
@alighieroalighieri404
9 ай бұрын
Barry Harris, an excellent pianist, but his assessment on Bill Evans is unfair just as much as when he stated that classical musicians cannot figure out chord progressions. He had a big mouth and often talked nonsense !
@citynocomment4685
2 жыл бұрын
We will all miss Barry Harris very much...
@aqualili
2 жыл бұрын
:((((
@MrRickywallace
2 жыл бұрын
He was a racist!
@classicfilms8071
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@murrayr7703
Жыл бұрын
Umm can you define "we and all." Miles, bill Evans yes I miss them, and Barry has FINALLY stopped whining.
@pickinstone
9 ай бұрын
I went to a couple of Barry Harris's masterclasses and I now study with one of his former bandmates--and a legendary bebop guitarist in his own right. At the danger of sounding "woke", I think that Mr. Harris is talking about race. I also love listening to Bill Evans, especially with Philly Jo on the drums. But I don't think that Bill Evans was the best there ever was and will be. Barry Harris talks A LOT about Art Tatum--every great jazz pianist worth their salt usually places Art Tatum at the top of the pantheon--for good reason. Calling Bill Evans the greatest erases the legacy that Art Tatum started by showing what was possible on the piano--that no one, even Eldar, has ever matched or surpassed. That's Black American Music history, to refer to Nicholas Payton. That doesn't mean you have to be Black to play this music authentically, or whatever that means. But that does mean that you respect the lineage. I think that even Keith Jarrett, who had a lot of issues around race with his own legacy, would say to respect that BAM legacy--and Keith Jarrett is among the top pianists in the business. Look at Barry Harris's legacy as a player, look the LONG list of other musicians he played with--and that will put his teaching into perspective. He's not another person on KZitem trying to teach "the simplest way to play jazz in 10 easy steps." His pedagogy comes from YEARS of refining his craft as a master, while he PLAYED with the masters.
@FreddieMaguire
3 жыл бұрын
Barry Harris is a fine Bop pianist, Bill Evans is a genius innovator. That is why he talks like that.
@therealrussellsmyth
3 жыл бұрын
Possibly !!
@brothercaleb
2 жыл бұрын
Opinion
@jazzjeffjazzjeff
4 жыл бұрын
“Art Tatum was too much for all of us”. Indeed he was!
@stephenkenny1647
3 жыл бұрын
When you find out his recording of Over the Rainbow was made only a week after the film came out 🤯🤯🤯
@foodhead4677
3 ай бұрын
Barry is great, he's just expressing his opinion. At the end of the day they are all playing tunes written by the J's anyway.
@redvine1105
3 жыл бұрын
Barry is a world class teacher and I have learned so much from him. But I confess, I play chords with the left hand sometimes ;)
@brothercaleb
2 жыл бұрын
He never said not to play them. But he objected to playing them “all the time”. Check some videos where he plays them himself when improvising.
@nezkeys79
4 жыл бұрын
I never liked this guys arrogance. Hes obviously a good piano player but to me hes not as good as the people he trashes in this video. I realize art/entertainment is just subjective but eh...something about his attitude doesnt sit right
@sjouanny
Жыл бұрын
Frankly, these ramblings are nonsense. Bill Evans was and always will be a great. He was humble about his influences and the amount of hard work he had to put in. This just shames Barry Harris who isn't particularly funny here.
@donaldscherzi169
9 ай бұрын
How in the world could he put down Bill Evans. Sounds racist to me.
@youngpaderewski3668
15 сағат бұрын
It’s not racist, it’s sort of like when Frank Sinatra put down Elvis Presley as a singer. It’s just someone who knows more about his craft than the general public giving his professional opinion. Don’t assume he’s critical of Evans just because he’s white.
@scriabinbartok3465
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha,this is hilarious. Also, don’t forget Keith Jarrett. Bunch of charlatans…jealousy is a bitch!
@andri_liuziu
10 ай бұрын
Barry jealousy to bill that’s the reason didn’t like evans
@truthdweller3454
3 жыл бұрын
What kind of pretentious goof brags about confusing George Shearing with Dave Brubeck?
@JulienJazz
3 жыл бұрын
Bill Evans is awesome. You can't take that away from him. But I agree that he isn't the end all be all of Jazz piano.
@production58
3 ай бұрын
I’m very disappointed in Barry.. Bill Evans was a groundbreaker.. Miles Davis knew that that’s why he’s kind of blue.. that’s why his influence on that album is just tremendous and can’t be denied and the influence that he had on other players.. I spent time with Miles . We talked about Bill Evans. Players didn’t like him because he was so original and came out of nowhere… listen to the album everybody digs Bill Evans you’ll see what the story is… Barry Harris shouldn’t have to go and pump anything up about anybody he has his place and he is a great pianist but the sit there and put down Bill Evans who touched so many people… is really a shame and to me an embarrassment..
@Beyondabsence
11 күн бұрын
It seems that Barry may lack the sensitivity required to truly appreciate Bill Evans. While Barry is undeniably a significant figure in the jazz piano tradition, there are certain limitations in his style. Bill, on the other hand, takes me to emotional depths that Barry simply cannot reach.
@nickbaigent2714
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a personal beef with Bill Evans. I mean how could you fault his playing ?
@laminebaazi4376
3 жыл бұрын
Evans gets a bad rep amongst certain circles cause he aint from a blues tradition rather french impressionism. i think evans alongside with trane are the first true aliens of the jazz genre. those that really made it expand onto a lot of other things. though here Barry is just being old school is all the kids dont get the energy in his statement. jazz was and is raw af
@laminebaazi4376
3 жыл бұрын
and Barry is a virtuoso in his own right.
@mezcaholico
4 жыл бұрын
"Bill Evans, one of my favorite pianists of all time..." Miles Davis kzitem.info/news/bejne/t46e06qFmmeJnaQ
@miguelherrera6762
10 ай бұрын
"Bud Powell was the best of all the bebop pianists" Miles Davis (and Barry would agree).
@supdude414
Жыл бұрын
who is that guy sitting next to barry harris he looks and sounds really annoying
@davemack6384
8 ай бұрын
Bill Evans is my favourite jazz musician. Ed Bickert is my second. I love Miles and Coltrane and Monk and Jim Hall and countless other musicians who paved the way. Bill was something special.
@jedivideo6203
3 жыл бұрын
There are certain musicians, even masters like Barry Harris, who are very rigid in their views about who can play. Lou Donaldson is like that about saxophonists. Barry probably doesn't like any pop or rock and roll either. It's too bad, but the reality is that every great artist has their detractors. Fortunately we can all form our own opinions.
@zu0832
3 жыл бұрын
Bill hated rock
@jamesdeancav
Жыл бұрын
Bill Evans is the greatest jazz pianist of all time still to this day, those students laughing in agreement should try listening to Miles Davis before they blindly agree with such bullshit, Barry Harris yes he is an interesting educator but he can’t play anywhere near the level of Bill period. Just listen to all Bills albums and tell me he’s not the greatest. R.I P Bill
@daveandrewvideos
4 жыл бұрын
Barry is the man. I don't understand why he would put Evans down.
@wastrel09
4 жыл бұрын
Bitter man. Barry was good, but Bill was far more talented
@johnvalentine3456
4 жыл бұрын
Because as great as Bill was, he didn't have the fire, the swinging drive of the cats Barry mentioned. It's a feel thing Barry maybe doesn't dig about Bill, more than a harmonic thing I am guessing. And I am a Bill Evans fanatic. Doesn't bother me a bit the Barry doesn't like Evans. Barry's feel as a player speaks for itself. The closest thing we'll get to hearing Bud Powell live folks.
@carlomorena6728
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnvalentine3456 no 'fire' and no 'drive' here?...kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2if2Gtuf6Zkp4I
@evelyncharlottejoe4238
3 жыл бұрын
we learn about bill before barry before terry pollard before mary lou because of white supremacist patriarchy. im sure hes bitter. he watched people he knew personally suffer from poverty and inhumane conditions while others became complict and collaborative with the destruction of the tradition to favour white big money and white academia by pushing their individual career. i still like bills playing, but it seems immature to ignore that political context. and it seems ridiculous to me to say he was inventive. he had privilege and full access to indigenous and black music. ill give him credit for not using it go settle for mediocrity. if we can learn anything from bill as white people engaging with this tradition, its that. i get why hes bitter. whats happened to this tradition is horrible and has been incredibly violent, and figures like bill are used in the current berklee pedagogy to represent things that are so far from the traditional roots.
@themidger1
3 жыл бұрын
@@evelyncharlottejoe4238 when I listen to this I don’t hear him trashing Bill or his playing. He’s specifically bemoaning the fact that Bill has been put up on a pedestal in mainstream music culture as the greatest jazz pianist of all time. Aside from the hostility he feels as a prominent black musician watching a slow gentrification of “street music” (his term), I doubt he appreciates being overshadowed in his educational efforts by the sainthood bestowed to Bill’s teaching through his early death. Barry is old school to the core, even in The Hague videos you hear him take shots at the academic approach to jazz theory. Bill The Legend represents more than himself in this respect, and I think Barry is projecting a lot of that animosity onto his fame and canonization in the music world
@golds04
4 жыл бұрын
Sad to see Barry become a bitter man. He is a brilliant player- but I think Miles and many might disagree about Evans. He is using the wrong substitution- hubris for insight :flat.
@HarrisonFerlauto
4 жыл бұрын
As a tremendous Barry Harris fan, I think he is mistaken for one reason or another. Listen to Bill Evans on the album "Alone (Again)" and tell me Evans doesn't swing. The bebop on there is of the highest caliber.
@TreBeL1000
3 жыл бұрын
Bill Evans is good at what he does. But there are levels. That album proves to me he can’t do bop.
@joshklamka834
3 жыл бұрын
@@TreBeL1000 check out modern art by art farmer if you wanna hear bill really swing playing bop. he sounds a lot like sonny clark or red garland, plus everybody else is really swingin too
@tom5776
9 ай бұрын
Bill was a lot better than Barry...
@dr.brianjudedelimaphd743
2 жыл бұрын
The real deal -RIP Genius
@VictorNickel
3 жыл бұрын
Lol you're all rhythmically deaf if you really believe Evans played better than this man does Music like all arts suffers from glorification of subpar artists of the past, for various reasons.
@sallemjazz1
10 күн бұрын
Never believe people who've become sour. Barry, who has done a tremendous lot for popularizing the bebop language through his teachings, is trying to force his opinions of others (mainly Bill Evans, a far more popular pianist than Barry), and doing so is sending a wrong message to the jazz piano community, helped by his crew of followers who act like a cult with the leader, a bit like a bunch of Jehovah's Witness... Make sure to listen to Barry's playing and Barry's teaching, which are beautiful and spot on when he knows what he is talking about (bebop piano). For the rest, when he talks about Coltrane, Cannonball, Bill Evans, classical pianists, and piano technique among other topics, I would recommended to avoid his rants and brain washing. Staying open-minded is the key for improving in a complex art form like Jazz.
@trblcleft
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Bill E. is way overrated and there is no disrespect but a widely shared opinion among jazz pianists. And almost every teacher I had had these strong preferences and spoke unkind to some others..........it just wasn't recorded.
@martin75r
4 жыл бұрын
It’s quite sad to see such a great master so bitter. What never changes is that those people are always surrounded by aslickers .
@Jayel805
4 жыл бұрын
The asslicking is what stood out to me the most. Jesus... have some fucking dignity.
4 жыл бұрын
I too am SICK of people always talking about Bill Evans. I suggest you listen to some Barry Harris, Bud Powell and Wynton Kelly before you even start with praising how great he was. I was in a room once where Barry Harris spoke about the six diminished scale, and it was an experience to remember. Barry Harris is the most underrated jazz pianist there was. Far greater player than Bill.
@martin75r
4 жыл бұрын
宇宙愛 Barry Harris is a great player, so was Bill Evans. Dodo Marmarosa is maybe even more underrated ( or Hampton Hawes), and in this video are som bloody asslickers .
@martin75r
4 жыл бұрын
宇宙愛 All great players as Elmo Hope, Andrew Hill, Herbie Nichols, Harold Mabern, Al Haig and so on and on. I simply find all those dogmatic discussions about “what id real jazz” ridicoulous. It reminds me some stupid and unproductif discussions in the early music world. Imagine, Duke Ellington would have thought like that, all we would remember ( if we would) were the “Soda fountain rag”. Of course, Barry Harris teaching is marvelous when he speaks about what he likes ( small chords vs big chords, the 6th diminueshed etc.) . He is a unbelievebly precious witness and ambassador of the great art of Bebop (piano)playing. Yet I’m glad there is also other music out there. PS. You can be sure that Bill Evans was able to appreciate and admire all hes great predecessors, as great artists normally are, which doesn’t keeps them away frm moving on.
4 жыл бұрын
@@martin75r How about some Dave Brubeck? Probably.
@ttrons2
3 жыл бұрын
I certainly don't agree with your comments on Bill Evans. I have enjoyed your teaching but there are a lot of contradictions in what you say and nothing distinctive in your playing.
@StamatisSeraphim
3 жыл бұрын
Damn people are salty here. Barry is one of the greatest players and educators alive, and he never cared for fame or recognition - he just wants to teach and spread the word of Bebop. The reason he's not a household name like Bud or Evans is because he's spent his life teaching others behind the scenes (but he's also worked on some incredible records). All those comments criticising him really seem uninformed and quick to judge, and it's easy to take this video out of context. He's not saying Bill wasn't a good player or that he's better than Bill, he's saying Bill ain't the only piano player in the world, and I understand why he would get tired of hearing of him. Bebop was created to take jazz back to the Black community, and Barry's always felt a certain disappointment to those who "sold out" and went on a more commercial route. He's a humble man but strong in his opinions, and he helped shape the music that players like Bill or Herbie later adapted and took in a different direction. People here need to be more respectful of a man like that, who has every right to have an opinion on a genre he helped curate.
@brothercaleb
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting a perspective to this. Especially now that Barry (peace be upon him) just passed, it’s easy for people to take his words out of context. Most of whom did not know him personally. There’s a video where he’s teaching students harmony on Bill Evans song: waltz for Debby. He clearly did not hate bill…
@owejay7981
2 жыл бұрын
I like when jazz musicians and fans have strong opinions. Most people in the jazz world just think everyone is a genius. It's boring and ends up being meaningless. I enjoyed this. He is wrong about Bill Evans (and George Cables) but there is a good lesson in honesty here.
@rjpimprov
3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, Bill Evans I'm SURE would have had nothing but nice things to say about Barry's playing...
@WyattLite-n-inn
3 жыл бұрын
Very sad to see him denigrate Bill Evans
@guidemeChrist
2 жыл бұрын
Based Legend. Rest in peace
@icecreamforcrowhurst
10 ай бұрын
He’s certainly entitled to his opinion. Personally I find Bill Evans’ music deeply moving.
@pauls4742
3 жыл бұрын
I like Barry's comment at the end of the interview... learn how to sing a solo. That's where the music comes from ... deep down inside and it' got to be completely personal and authentic.... not just a bunch of notes.
@orochimarukishimoto6509
3 жыл бұрын
And can't do that very well either...
@Weily_Alcequiez
2 жыл бұрын
RIP master Barry! you will always be remembered with love!
@murrayr7703
2 жыл бұрын
Yes as opposed to the way he lived his life with vitriol, envy, resentment. I hope he RIP cause he certainly was not at peace in his life.
@Weily_Alcequiez
2 жыл бұрын
@@murrayr7703 I didn't see that in your classes. if you met him personally then ok. But even reflecting on that after someone's death says more about you than about him.
@murrayr7703
2 жыл бұрын
@@Weily_Alcequiez Your are welcome to your opinion as I am to mine. And my opinion is he was obviously a bitter envious man and talking smack about Bill Evans is quite childish especially when you are 90 year old. If he were alive I'd just say to him - "Let it Go gramps.
@brothercaleb
2 жыл бұрын
@@Weily_Alcequiez very well said bro. Definitely Changed the way Many look at music-and that’s a fact. RIP the great Barry Harris
@Weily_Alcequiez
2 жыл бұрын
@@murrayr7703 he had his manners and strong opinions... That's it! And, with 90 years old You become less polite...
@shaolin1derpalm
2 жыл бұрын
I don't care who he is or what he had accomplished, Bill Evans was awesome. I'm sure the sycophantic "the master is speaking" comments will come but whatever. People from before his time could say "I don't understand" about him and could be valid.
@Beyondabsence
11 күн бұрын
It seems that Barry may lack the sensitivity required to truly appreciate Bill Evans. While Barry was somewhat a significant figure in the jazz piano tradition, there are certain limitations in his style. Bill, on the other hand, takes me to emotional depths that Barry simply cannot reach. Evans would never venture into the swinging bebop lines that defined Bud, while Bud could never approach the harmonic beauty and depth that Bill Evans mastered.
@vincesoder3284
17 күн бұрын
Bill Evans was definitely very distinct and unique. Truly an individual and one of the GOATS. Now Jazz is about alot of things; Harmony, Rhythm, improvisation, Being Jealous isn't one of them. Barry seems to have the same boring and stale view of jazz as Wynton marsalis cats have... Fuck em, Love you Bill You were one of the greatest of them all!
@timechopper
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Barry being Barry and speaking his mind, is a treasure. Students come to learn from who the master is. To "moderate himself for young minds" would be to drop from a master class, to an ordinary class.
@shaolin1derpalm
2 жыл бұрын
So we can be us and speak our mind about him?
@cocovi
11 ай бұрын
@@shaolin1derpalm the master remains the master and the students remain students. Everyone should stay in their place
@shaolin1derpalm
11 ай бұрын
@@cocovi so the master was never the student? Speaking his mind against what came prior?
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out
9 ай бұрын
blah blah blah let's all just stfu and goes practice on our instruments, make ourselves useful to the world and move the air around with music instead of blah fucking blah blah@@cocovi
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