Politicians took the steroid scandal more seriously than any bill to better millions of lives
@davidsmith-uw2ci
4 ай бұрын
Ikr I'm if they spent half the energy helping regular ppl like they do for stuff like that America would be a better place.
@harrisonlinden6552
4 ай бұрын
The only time Washington has seen a piece of American culture being destroyed and actually did something about it
@christophernickerson8225
2 ай бұрын
They had no business getting involved in it, that's MLB's problem it's gone on since the late 80s nobody did anything about if you don't like what's going don't go to the games don't watch it
@Brhoward31
27 күн бұрын
@@christophernickerson8225 I always thought that was Odd. Why the fuck is congress getting involved?
@christophernickerson8225
27 күн бұрын
Seriously even at that time the country had problems, they didn't break the law like robbing a bank, congress should have had nothing to do with it, that was bud selig's problem and the MLB higher ups
@greenleader3520
10 ай бұрын
Honestly; it was the most exciting and entertaining era of baseball.
@Maxfr8
9 ай бұрын
Right !? Too bad isn't wasn't authentic.
@greenleader3520
9 ай бұрын
@@Maxfr8 it was still awesome
@userloco99
11 ай бұрын
I can believe Bud Selig is in the hall of fame but the people who make him rich are not.
@scott6828
11 ай бұрын
@carlosriutort: Great point!!!
@TheBatugan77
11 ай бұрын
Agree. Then again, so is Charles Comiskey. By Landis' standard of guilty knowledge, he was worse than the eight players who were banned.
@robertbluestein7800
11 ай бұрын
Wonderful perspective in this video. I wrote an article for BleacherReport in 2012 that led to me being banned. But, the story is still up! It’s called “Rethinking the asteroid Era” and I wrote it! It was highly unpopular at the time. But one thing I pointed out was that 24 NEW stadiums were built in Bonds career, every one of them brought the walls in by an average of 10 feet. Assuming that Bonds gained from this, by even 15 HRs per season, he is then at 135 less than his career. (9 seasons x 15). Suddenly there are more factors to the controversy today. One final note… The plaques on the wall in Cooperstown have the names of players did their part to keep baseball segregated. If we are going to decide that steroids are enough to keep certain guys out of the Hall of Fame, how is it possible to have Cap Anson, Ban Johnson, and Rogers Hornsby’s plaques up on that wall now? Who REALLY caused more damage to the game?
@otaviofrn_adv
11 ай бұрын
are they (Anson, Johnson and Hornsby) branded as such? Because if they are, this might be a solution for the steroid era players
@derricktalbot8846
11 ай бұрын
CAP ANSON!!!! what a fkn CVNT! One of the most influential players of the time... and by far the biggest fkn scumbag that ever got shat out of a crackwh0res ruptured fetid f-hole!! I gave up baseball the instant Barry Bonds did not get into the Hall of Fame.... not a single game since 2014 we now call it an era.... but treat it as though we ALL didn't get in on the action. More fans, bigger stadiums, more tv money, more more more MORE. There is not a SINGLE player during that era that did not have their game affected by roids.... did not have their stats affected somehow by a teammate who was on the juice.... probably while rolling in the snow! Wow Robert!!! you really know how to set a guy off, eh? Rereading your article after so many years.... Yes Robert.... I am still seething at how righteous we get to be after the fact.... for some things of course! Every time i make this argument "either admit Bonds, or remove Anson. There is no middle ground." I get to a point where I walk someone right up to the edge of agreeing that some circumstances are ok to overlook.... then? because I am Evil and refuse to lose this argument I drop the Hard-R-N-Word... it is such a jarring and violent turn in civility and mood :) There isn't a way to agree to that without tossing out the entire argument on their side. it makes my point perfectly, that if me saying that is NOT OK, then how is the segregation era OK? Opp: "Sure, I'll grant you that some circumstances can and must be overlooked. But not steroids. It is 'too important'/cheating/dishonourable/blahblahblah" Me: "But Not *******" Opp: Otavio.... it would be objectively true to say that if Cap Anson had his head split open by an axe before that season... this world would have been a better place. Sure, someone else may have tried to pull the same stunt.... but they would not have been as influential as Cap was. I know, I know Octavio.... yes, I am Evil, and I have been fighting dirty this entire time for one single issue in a game i used to care about..... but we all dont need to fight dirty.... pick up the cause.... "Bonds in or Anson out. There is no middle ground." Help
@2K9s
11 ай бұрын
Boom!!
@baileyayyy5085
10 ай бұрын
having roids exclude you from the hof and overt racism not is actually insane
@derricktalbot8846
10 ай бұрын
@@baileyayyy5085 JOIN THE FIGHT!
@reesejabs1895
10 ай бұрын
I give Jose Canseco a lot of credit for blowing the whole steroid scandal wide open.
@michaelblack6495
3 ай бұрын
Why would you give this idiot credit? He did not return any of the money he was paid for cheating he simply found a way to make more money by being a weasel because he had wasted all the money he had been paid. Canseco was just trying to hold on to fame and make more money by trying to come out looking like the good honest cheater. MLB ownership is the only villain here, they knew it was happening and they did not discourage it, they allowed it to go on because revenue was down. They allowed these players to cheat to get profits up, if you ask me, Congress should have had the owners in session asking them, the ones that make the rules, why this was happening. That never happened because of $$$$$$. That is the why and the guilty. If you could get a big raise at your job for doing something that your work place never said you CAN"T DO without being fired, you would do it, that is all these players did and they were demonized for it. The finger needs to be pointed at the responsible parties.
@dukedematteo1995
26 күн бұрын
I don't. He's not a whistleblower. Just a rat. And he named names not for the good of baseball, but for money. The one thing I'll give him credit for is regretting that he ratted out ex teammates. He's said so many times.
@teorror8729
11 күн бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995👍🏼X a bunch.
@johnnyguitarwatson5288
Сағат бұрын
Man I read Canseco's book : ITS DAMNING💉💉💪🏿💉💪🏿
@johnnyguitarwatson5288
Сағат бұрын
Greg ANDERSON =LOYALTY
@thomaslynch1853
11 ай бұрын
Frank Thomas was not rumored and spoke openly against it his entire career. He also never had an absurd 50 homer out of nowhere year. He was the definition of consistency. So get those facts straightened out in an otherwise decent video.
@kushclarkkent6669
11 ай бұрын
Yep! He was The Big Hurt for heaven's sake! The man has always been massive. Just look at pictures of him at Auburn lol.
@rowdyghost4713
11 ай бұрын
Lol you know how many people “speak out against it” who were clearly on it? Don’t be so naive. The fact of the matter is your favorite baseball player from the 70s all the way through the early 2000s likely took illegal PEDs or stimulants. It’s something that is widely spoken about and widely known. So to sit up here and say “oh he openly was against it” it’s all fluff dude.
@dltguitar6532
11 ай бұрын
now he pushes those weird commercials for testosterone boosting/boner pills so I wouldn't be shocked if he used steroids back then lol
@Jobuwins92
11 ай бұрын
Lmao so naive. I love it though. Never meet your heroes
@djquinn11
11 ай бұрын
They were all juicing
@travismcnamara8919
11 ай бұрын
You can definitely hit and throw harder and also run faster on coke. It also heightens your focus until you hit a tipping point where you just become jumpy.
@raddimusmcchoyber3362
11 ай бұрын
Likewise amphetamines.
@georgesouthwick7000
11 ай бұрын
I can’t recall a single player who was as good after he stopped using cocaine as he was when he was using.
@9999bigb
11 ай бұрын
Look at the 60s and 70s, they used to use Greenies all the time. Greenies were amphetamines. They used to put them in the coffee in the clubhouse. "Do you want ledded or unledded coffee" was a thing that people used to ask.
@JG54206
10 ай бұрын
There isn’t any evidence to demonstrate that you could throw harder or hit a ball harder. In fact studies have shown that cocaine and amphetamines actually tend to decrease measurable performance in terms of things like velocity of the ball either thrown or batted. What they can do is enhance a players focus and their perception of their abilities. Baseball is an extremely cerebral game where confidence (I.e. perception/confidence of one’s abilities) plays a huge role. I’ll entertain an argument that those factors make it a PED but it’s kind of stretching it comparing to something like steroids which actually have measurable effects on pitching or exit velocity and raw strength. Cocaine and amphetamines are basically like having a really convincing hype man living inside your head that constantly affirms your abilities to you and makes you supremely confident in what you think you can do. There’s also the effects of enhanced ability to focus on specific tasks that can be mentioned but by that same token one could argue that techniques like hypnosis or meditation could be “performance enhancement”. It really gets into semantics at that point. Make no mistake, players like Doc were not the same without blow, but it doesn’t actually make him throw harder or increase his spin rate or anything like that. It just makes someone hyper focused and very confident which can be very effective for someone who already has a lot of natural talent and ability. There is also a flip side with steroids where they don’t do anything for a players focus or concentration and simply can’t make someone able to hit a major league fastball if they can’t hit it to begin with. It can just make someone who can already hit a major league fastball hit it much harder.
@WARS187
10 ай бұрын
Ken Griffey Jr. Turned Out To Be The Best He Could Only Bench 175 lbs Dude Had Bat Speed meets Timing
@brianferstle6369
9 ай бұрын
I think he and his dad played together
@KennethChristian-f1k
6 ай бұрын
Wow I can finally say I can beat a pro at something 😂
@00ghostcobra
5 ай бұрын
@@brianferstle6369 Yes they did..
@davidsmith-uw2ci
4 ай бұрын
They did play together and they even hit back to back home runs.
@joedimaggio1259
4 ай бұрын
Funny what bothers me in this video is the fact people no longer make or know the distinction between turtle and tortoise lol wtf
@ptythefool
11 ай бұрын
Matt Williams had 43 homeruns, not 54 in 1994 @5:34. Not a big deal but he was pretty much on pace for 61.
@chuco6010
Жыл бұрын
Hot take here, but I still think guys like Barry Bonds, ARod, Manny Ramirez, etc should still be in the HOF. Steroids or not, they were still really damn good at what they did.
@kadensadich1311
Жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more dude! Especially because of the fact that there is people who are in the HOF who used steroids. Like Hank Aaron has fully admitted to using steroids in his Autobiography.
@GreatMewtwo
11 ай бұрын
I ended up on this video thinking about Jose Canseco's snitching in his book, talking about injecting Raffi and others.
@ronworley1548
11 ай бұрын
Not to mention all the players prior to integration.
@330wiz7
11 ай бұрын
Yea they should be. It definitely helps theres no doubt. But to pretend like these guys were garbage until they started juicing is ridiculous. All of those guys are special special talents. As someone who played it's so unbelievably hard to hit a high 90s fastball let alone mixing in off speeds and cutters in the 90s and hard sliders in the 80s off the fastball. Steroids or not if you put up the numbers these guys did you should be recognized.
@raychapman1134
11 ай бұрын
I used to be completely against any steroid guys getting in the hall. After all the information that has come out over the years about MLB actively discouraging the story from getting out and blatantly ignoring the situation to cash in on the players popularity I have changed my position. The MLB had no problem with them doing it until the fans found out and the reporters who vote on the hall also ignored what was clearly occurring right in front of them so trying to act high and mighty now is just disgusting.
@tessp100d4
11 ай бұрын
Canseco was the only one who boldly told the truth. And he was blackballed.
@ZaKRo-bx7lp
Жыл бұрын
Barry Bombs was a HoFer even before steroids
@kushclarkkent6669
11 ай бұрын
Yeah his numbers blow my mind every time I pull em up. The man legitimately had TWO primes.😂
@helix9268
11 ай бұрын
He's definitely a Hall of famer without the steroids it's a shame he used them. 💰 that's why
@josephbarkley3301
11 ай бұрын
True. Even before steroids he was one of the greatest players of all time.
@andrejamison2723
11 ай бұрын
@@fredjonestowns4213nope. Because Griffey did it without
@WARS187
10 ай бұрын
@@andrejamison2723 The Kid Was The Best Why Did Manny Have To Take Estrogen And Fkk His Name smh
@iskander0725
10 ай бұрын
I'm just going to state this before I watch. If Bud Selig is in the MLB HoF, Barry Bonds, Mark Mcgwire, Sammy Sosa, and ALL of those legendary cheaters should be HoF'ers too. Simply put, that chucklehead not only knew but encouraged steroid usage with his cover ups and defense of all those players one time or another.
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
There was nothing in the rules of MLB that banned steroids. Plain and simple
@mlwilliam213
10 ай бұрын
I remember watching McGwire refusing to talk about the past while everyone else denied everything. He got vilified for it, but I always thought it was kind of admirable. What’s done is done by that point and he couldn’t go back. But, he refused to lie. He admitted it without admitting it. There’s something to be said for a man who has every reason to lie but cannot morally do it. Probably a pretty good dude.
@chunkymonkey428
9 ай бұрын
He couldn’t lie, but he could cheat? Weird moral structure.
@caleblawrence7105
9 ай бұрын
Nothing was admirable about him refusing to own up to his own wrong doing and avoiding accountability.
@xx7legion7xx99
10 ай бұрын
My favorite was Palmeiro pointing his finger saying he never rook then. Then the orioles owner said he would take Canseco to court and sue for defamation for palmeiro but he declined. 6 months later he tested positive for steroids and vanished from the game.
@dontdoittoyoself6786
10 ай бұрын
I always saw it as something a lawyer told him to do. He even turns away as if he couldn’t hold the lie.
@dukedematteo1995
26 күн бұрын
@xx7legion7xx99 it's worse than that. He must have taken steroids about a week after this testimony
@LeglessLion
11 ай бұрын
I've never heard of anyone accusing Frank Thomas of steroids
@stevesyverson8625
11 ай бұрын
You are correct. Frank Thomas will always be one of my favorites. Not because of his physical stature. He is a man of character, and will remain so in my eyes.
@jonathonhappel
3 ай бұрын
Yes. He was actually asking for drug testing during his playing days.
@georgesouthwick7000
11 ай бұрын
Not to defend Bonds, but it was common knowledge in MLB at that time that steroid use was massive. Bonds believed, and rightly so that he was better than both Sosa and McGwire, but they were getting all the publicity, thanks to their steroid use. Therefore, he made the decision to start using.
@aaronsmith4806
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, everyone knew. Nobody cared because ratings were off the charts! ESPN had content every night with the races.
@Ninjersey1
10 ай бұрын
Yeah but bonds took HGH and other crazy designer steroids he and McGwire transformed into mutants
@Blokewood3
10 ай бұрын
But Bonds was a successful player already. Using drugs because other people got attention from the press is very petty.
@JohnSmith-zx1bg
11 ай бұрын
Barry Bonds also had the most BODY ARMOR ever allowed. And he had the only body armor WITH A HINGE, allowing him to swing on the same plane EVERY TIME. It went from his shoulder to his wrist and he hung it over home plate. This was the first time in 130 years something stood between the pitcher and the hitter. Pitchers could NOT get Bonds off balance or worried about getting hit. This helped Bonds waaaay more than the steroids did, and the steroids helped A LOT.
@Shoprestorationthe
10 ай бұрын
I’m a Barry Bonds fan and supporter, but this comment is just dumb.
@JohnSmith-zx1bg
10 ай бұрын
@@Shoprestorationthe Clearly you dont understand the intricacies of baseball. READ THIS, IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES. insidesportsgeek.wordpress.com/2007/08/07/barry-bonds-hr-record-tainted-by-elbow-armor/
@evanfunk7335
10 ай бұрын
Then why dont others use it and get his results? Dumby
@jeffreyboyer4990
3 ай бұрын
Bond's Head Grew two Hat Sizes ? Perfectly Normal !
@RRR-ox9ud
11 ай бұрын
Shows you how dominate "The Kid" was. Dont blame the lifelong fan, blame the casual. Some of my favorite baseball games of all-time rarely hit the over.
@flame-sky7148
11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you covered the pitchers juicing too. You wanna know why Alex Rodriguez doesn't have 700 to 800 hrs? It's because testing was in place and he got busted twice thus serving two suspensions. You don't have to wonder about putting an asterisk by his numbers. Matt Williams had 43 not 54, and Griffey Jr. had 40 before the strike. It was a great year, and it was going to be better. Again, how do you cheat a test, when there is no test? Baseball waited too late for testing.
@chamuuemura5314
11 ай бұрын
So you’re saying that A-Roid took PEDs? I’m shocked!
@justvibing2497
11 ай бұрын
He only served one
@flame-sky7148
6 ай бұрын
Correct, but he was suspended 211 games, which is more than one season. First PED offense is 80 games, a second one is 162 games.
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
Chuck Finley had a domestic violence incident where cops found steroids all over his house. Back in the 80s
@flame-sky7148
4 күн бұрын
yea, good point, Chuck Finley was a solid pitcher too he was dating Tawnny K ( Is this Love) sorry ,
@michaelrousey7418
11 ай бұрын
They should be thanking those players because they saved baseball.
@stoneymcneal2458
11 ай бұрын
The steroid generation saved nothing
@ClstlSamurai101
4 ай бұрын
Nah, thank the drugs!
@standepain
11 ай бұрын
Newsflash. Steroids never went away.
@dukedematteo1995
26 күн бұрын
Yes it did. Stop.
@standepain
26 күн бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 Nope. Players just learned how to cycle and train better to not be as obvious and not to mention passing a test for steroids isn't that hard.
@dukedematteo1995
26 күн бұрын
@@standepain nah, that's cynical/hysterical nonsense. You just want to be able to complain about steroids in perpetuity. ...and accuse players who are having great seasons of cheating without it sounding dumb and outdated (which it is). When your crusade ends in victory, and you fix a problem. Move on. Don't pretend "there's still so much more to do" so you can keep going on, needlessly fighting a battle that's long been won.
@standepain
26 күн бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 How is it nonsense. It's not hard to pass a test for steroids. Olympic athletes pass with flying colors and that's WADA doing the testing. I'm guessing you also believe the NFL guys doing juice? Steroids are a part of professional sport and are not going anywhere. Besides MLB loves steroids. They're great for the game since it brings in the fans.
@cleganebowldog6626
Жыл бұрын
To say the fans are to blame for steroids is similar to when modern news media tries to claim that it's viewer desire that has lead to the polarization of networks. Bullshit, just because you can exploit tendancies of your fans to make things worse, doesn't mean the viewer is to blame. I strongly disagree with the end of this video.
@timhall5382
Жыл бұрын
He also says fans didn't like players using steroids that's one of the reasons it ended then says way more people watched during that era. He is obviously a little kid but the double talk and hypocrisy in this video is amazing.
@otaviofrn_adv
11 ай бұрын
but you don't deny it was a tendency... actually it was a major one. If you don't think someone wasn't going to exploit, you're drinking the kool aid. Giving people what they want always work
@Whitegorillaboy
11 ай бұрын
Frank Thomas was a 6'5" 270 pounder who didn't need PEDs. But neither he nor anyone else could get his numbers without his freak natural size. He was a first baseman, couldn't play any other position, and couldn't run the bases. He was strictly a hitter who could only play first or DH. Steroids were used in BB because its players mostly weren't dedicated strength athletes who trained in the off-season on power or footspeed. It took me 6 years and a 20 lb weight gain to reach a natural 400 bench press, after which I could hit baseballs 400 feet. Pro baseballers didn't want to work that hard so they used drugs to get there faster. Now baseballers all hit the weight room from high school on, so PEDs are not as necessary.
@somekindaguy100
11 ай бұрын
Took you 6 years (well done by the way) 6 years on 20 million a year ,that is why they use .Do it all in one off season and maintain it and your rolling in the money .Effort is still there but they don't have 6 years to hit their peak and quite frankly I don't blame them
@KennethChristian-f1k
6 ай бұрын
400lb bench nice
@TomDavidMcCauley
12 күн бұрын
You actually have to work harder on steroids, since you have so much extra capacity. Otherwise you’re shortening your life for quick but negligible gains. It’s ok to admit these steroid guys worked harder than you-they were on stuff
@thomaslemon3971
8 күн бұрын
Beautiful ending, since Ohtani is kind of today’s “Summer of ‘98”. He’s gotten a lot more people interested in baseball in the last couple years
@deanw0rmer
11 ай бұрын
Nobody would have cared if Bonds and Clemens hadn’t got involved. Both were assholes. McGwire and Sosa were loved
@michaeldequatro1012
11 ай бұрын
The last thing you said is so true. Some of these records will never be broken :(
@EdmundKempersDartboard
Жыл бұрын
The fact that you don't have much more than 2000 subs is criminal. Great videos.
@BobG127
10 ай бұрын
Frank Thomas regularly lobbied to make drug tests mandatory while he was in his prime. He knew he was clean and knew that cheaters were giving their teams undeserved advantages -- and possibly cheating him out of MVP's and larger contracts. He was the best hitter in decades -- and the best of all time, by some measures.
@richardkenny3837
11 ай бұрын
Tony gwynn was always a remarkable contact hitter. He never had a lot of power if he was on roads his home run totals would have quadrupled.
@TonyMarchese-zy7ge
Ай бұрын
Interesting comment
@TomDavidMcCauley
12 күн бұрын
Bring back the steroid era. It was clearly the best. Social mores have changed and literally no one thinks they’re a big deal now
@astralflick
10 ай бұрын
I simultaneously hold the opinions that Bonds was one of the best players of all time, and that Aaron still has the home run record. I can understand arguments for and against Bonds in the HOF.
@thomaslemon3971
9 ай бұрын
That’s exactly how I feel. So torn…because Bonds had an amazing batting eye/plate discipline, mechanically perfect swing, and a very high baseball IQ. But he roided up to such a cartoonish level that you can’t take his records seriously. It was so beyond obvious that he was cheating. Mr. Henry Aaron was (and is) the MAN.
@thomascrowley9122
Ай бұрын
You're entitled to that opinion. But whenever you google all time HR leader. You're going to see Bonds name whether you like it or not.
@astralflick
Ай бұрын
@@thomascrowley9122 what? No! I was expecting the internet to perfectly align with my perception of reality!!!
@thomascrowley9122
Ай бұрын
@@astralflick Not just the internet that will say that.
@flapjacktexas1774
28 күн бұрын
That was very well done. I hope you grow 😊
@randallmartin2508
11 ай бұрын
Matt Williams had 54 homeruns in mid August? Wow! I remember him having 43, but I’m watching this on the internet so it has to be true.
@derricktalbot8846
11 ай бұрын
HOLY JEEPERS! Thanks Randall!❤🤩❤ I would have gone my entire life thinking it was only 43 until you let me know that the internet is right. This is going to save me SOOO much time..... I got to hurry now and pour boiling ginseng and juniper oil in my ear to cure my tinitis!!!! LOVE YOU MAN!🍻🦫🍁❤
@humanbeing2420
Жыл бұрын
Len Dykstra used steroids??? I'm shocked.
@pillwolak
10 ай бұрын
Is it true Barry Bonds helmet size increased 2 sizes after he started taking PEDs?
@JohnSmith-zw8vp
10 ай бұрын
14:22 -- Baseball's "I did NOT...have...sexual...relations..." moment.
@edwardwong654
11 ай бұрын
Who was that Redsox guy in the blue jersey at the beginning of the video?
@edwardwong654
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I think it is nomar garciaparra - aka the Juicer.
@jackhastings9800
11 ай бұрын
Bonds head was normal, then it grew larger then Rosie Odonalds
@Jobuwins92
11 ай бұрын
A part 2 is needed. Heck maybe even a part 3. So much missing.
@flame-sky7148
6 ай бұрын
There are three categories to this enigma. 1. There are guys who juiced that got caught failing a test ( A-Rod, Manny Ramirez, Palmeiro, Braun). 2 There are guys who most likely used but never failed or took a test like (McGwire, Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield). 3. There are players who were highly suspicious but are in the HOF like (Pudge, Ortiz, Bagwell). Frank Thomas was never suspected of juicing. By the way the first juicer in baseball's HOF was a pitcher by the name Pud Galvin, as he used the Brown-Séquard elixir (Look him up).
@bankrolDiggy
11 ай бұрын
The real record is and always has been 755, bonds can never change that
@DarrylBarnes
11 ай бұрын
McGuire hit 49 his rookie year weighing 186 lbs..McGuire simply went from hitting 450ft home runs to 500 foot home runs regardless he was putting term over the fence. Maybe the PEDs helped his shitty back. The only thing that increased was the number of games he played. He was hitting home runs at the same avg per at bat his whole career.
@Badger5280
11 ай бұрын
Bullshit he was 190 maybe in the 10th grade!
@beauflandrick2432
2 ай бұрын
Steroids don't help you see the ball and hit it squarely on the barrel of your bat these guys are being punished for Major League baseballs fuck up
@scottmitchell1974
2 ай бұрын
186 pounds!😂 Dude was 6'5" He was 220-225 as a rookie.
@zendoargos4988
11 ай бұрын
Barry Bonds was one of the all-time greats before he ever juiced. His ego was even bigger than his swollen head though and wanted the accolades that other players were getting so he went from one of the best to ever play to absolute 'God-mode' for a season or two. It was unfair how good he was when he was on the juice. Bonds never needed it but took it anyway, that's why I personally dislike him. Compared to a guy that was trying to get to the bigs, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens were all super star players that got greedy, but if you can't beat them...join them...and then beat them in a steroid fueled rage. I also like how people tend to gloss over the bowls of "greenies" and other amphetemines that were common in clubhouses during past eras of the game. They might not help you hit the ball 500 feet, but they can help you hit the ball in the second game of a double header after a night of drinking so they can't be ignored. The previous eras weren't clean, even if they didn't have steroids.
@ptythefool
11 ай бұрын
'God mode for a season or two' was 4 consecutive seasons (01-04), 5 if you want to include 2000. You don't build up fear by only popping off once or twice, its a culmination of sustained excellence. A good example is sammy sosa, even though he was hitting 50-66 homeruns a year for 4 consecutive seasons, he wasn't really respected or feared until maybe the final season. And even then, he probably wasn't because you could still get him out. He was striking out a lot. (150-175 a season) As for the other stuff, bonds unintentionally kind of ruined baseball for me. Its like watching prime tiger woods or rodger federer.. once you see excellence, everything else is ordinary. Everyone loves mike trout and ohtani and I'm just like... meh. Even aaron judges 62 was somewhat underwhelming, he needed so many extra plate appearances with shenanigans of being put 1st or 2nd in the order. And yes cheating has always been an issue in baseball, but no one seems to care unless it has a significant impact IE astros sign stealing or players actually getting an advantage which led to records being beaten/tainted. They should let steroid users into the hall of fame. Its a museum to tell the history of baseball, not some sacred squeaky clean record keeping place.
@stingrey1571
11 ай бұрын
in 1998, bonds had a mvp caliber season. NO ONE remembers that because everyone was fixated on sosa and mcgwire. i dont blame him at all for juicing.
@XxCorvette1xX
10 ай бұрын
How do you know Bonds knowingly took steroids? There’s no proof
@choosecarefully408
8 ай бұрын
*That's* the effing _POINT!!_ It's impossible for someone _not_ on 'roids to play every day _AND_ hit the gym. So Everyone Knew that McGwire & Co were cheating. & Bonds was *getting overlooked **_because OF_* cheaters. & you the fans want so desperately to cheer on people with Successful Stats that whether or not they work to earn them didn't make a difference to *you!* & now you're trying to blame Bonds? Which _is_ it? _Is_ it bad for *him* to use steroids or _DO_ you want to praise players who do?
@rogerj21
11 ай бұрын
Wow man...what a great video 🔥 And yes we all have the blame and the players where the only ones paying for it.
@LuanChuppi
Ай бұрын
Judge holds the single season record; and Hank Aaron holds the all-time record, except for Oh Sadaharu.
@petermitchell2729
10 ай бұрын
Barry Bonds was hard to like even without the steroids. His stats are amazing, but he had few friends, even amongst team mates.
@robertoagosto3938
11 ай бұрын
Great video, however, Frank Thomas was one of the few active players during the steroid era that openly denounced steroid usage. Had he taken them during his day, we would be talking about him as the All Time HR leader. He would have ended his career with 800+. He was that good.
@RequiredFields
3 ай бұрын
I understand the argument on both sides of the fence for those for certain players in the "Steroid Era" getting in and those who think they should be kept out. There are plenty of players in the "Steroid Era" who took steroids that were nowhere near great, even on steroids. For some reason, it's only the "All-Star" players who get called "cheaters" if they take steroids. I never understood that.
@toddwoodward9451
10 ай бұрын
Yes Frank Thomas and Ivan Rodriguez were accused, but it was never proven. They both completely deserve their spots in Cooperstown.
@jaredbrinkman3343
10 ай бұрын
ivan rodriguez was guilty af. canseco himself said he did and that man has an insanely good track record on that. thomas is innocent
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
Frank yes not Ivan. He was a shell of himself after testing started
@andrejamison2723
11 ай бұрын
McGwire was not a big guy when he was a rookie. He was a natural HR hitter. He took Andro due to injuries.
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
And steroids. His brother was a steroid using bodybuilder.
@d4c_reznor470
4 ай бұрын
Considering how many all stars didn’t take steroids in this era like Griffey, Jeter, the great Seattle 8, I’d even make a case for Jim Edmonds, roids weren’t even necessary. Taking drugs isn’t the same as spitballs or stealing signs
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
Great Seattle 8? Not Edgar Martinez, a likely steroid user. Brett Boone too.
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
Chuck Finley was teamates with Jimmy. Look up Chuck Finley domestic violence with wife Tawny. Cops found steroids all over the house
@michaelrousey7418
11 ай бұрын
Do you realize that Barry bonds never tested positive for steroids? MLB knew all about it. And when they got caught, they put the blame on certain people that they didn't like. I know somebody that played during that time. And he said 1 year they barely had a Wait room and the next year they had a huge weight room.. MLB knew what was going on.
@andrejamison2723
11 ай бұрын
Yes he did
@michaelrousey7418
11 ай бұрын
@@andrejamison2723 Where was this?
@somekindaguy100
11 ай бұрын
@@andrejamison2723no he didn't .....ever .
@megatron3859
11 ай бұрын
@@michaelrousey7418 He tested positive for Nandrolone and Methenolone. The test might have been anonymous but a high enough percentage tested positive which triggered regular testing. Later the names were leaked. He's still greatest baseball player i've ever seen.
@proofessor8062
10 ай бұрын
@@michaelrousey7418 you dont even have to look outside of baseball stats to see when he started seriously roiding. i like bonds but you are just being disingenuous
@bennygarcia1913
11 ай бұрын
The fans are not to blame.
@justvibing2497
11 ай бұрын
It saved baseball super exciting times for baseball. Blame jose. Also sammmy still to this day said he didn't juice. Truly shocking. Great vid
@JohnnyGingy
11 ай бұрын
I’m 33 (so not an old baseball fan) I grew up in the steroid era and I think all those cheaters need to stay out of the hall. Aaron is the one true homerun king.
@reynaldoflores0923
11 ай бұрын
❤❤🎉
@Turnkey_BM
11 ай бұрын
PED's literally saved baseball. If you compared these "cheaters" to the other "cheaters" of their era, they were greats.
@dontdoittoyoself6786
11 ай бұрын
There’s already cheaters in the Hall of Fame and including the guy that signed off on the cheating Bud Selig.
@John-ct9zs
11 ай бұрын
baseball is built on cheating. It's the dirtiest sport in America, despite all the mythology about it being some "clean" sport.
@XxCorvette1xX
10 ай бұрын
When did Bonds get caught? How do you know he knowingly took steroids?
@KennethChristian-f1k
6 ай бұрын
It’s a multi-faceted issue that is not cut and dry; you did an excellent job presenting alternative perspectives. To me I feel the MLB enabled the steroid era by not implementing testing until a decade after steroids were officially banned. I feel the commissioner (who has wiped his hands of the situation entirely) should either be removed from the Hall of Fame; or the dope legends should be inducted perhaps with an *
@JTCT371
11 ай бұрын
Just because MLB turned a blind eye to this, due to ratings being in the tank for the time (this era got people paying attention again) doesn't mean its not cheating, and ANY records set should come along with an ASTERISK.
@poooky321
3 ай бұрын
Bonds is the poster boy for the steroid era because he was the best player that we know took steroids. It’s pretty simple.
@nascarplanet9858
11 ай бұрын
I scribed I can talk baseball all day
@carykingiv9569
10 ай бұрын
Bonds used a topical cream that didn't enhance or juice up his swing. He used it like anyone would to heal some light injury. It ain't at all like the regimen that is used to gain strength and bulk.
@evanfunk7335
10 ай бұрын
Lol he literally ballooned up and became a muscle monster. Topical cream...
@KenTheMan407
4 ай бұрын
I miss this baseball so much
@johnbroadway4196
11 ай бұрын
There is no Excuse for this amount of cheating. I have no respect and have no wish to see any of these cheating Men to be in the Hall of Fame. And if ! You allow them to enter this Baseball hallowed Hall ? THEN PETE ROSE & SHOELESS JOE JACKSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED FIRST !
@fliplife67
11 ай бұрын
The funny thing about that ERA is how KC Royals team leader in homers in there frans history was only 36 in a season which was set in 1985 but didnt get surpass until 2017.
@richardhogenson594
4 ай бұрын
The only steroids that Babe Ruth used was hotdogs and beer.
@josedomingues23
2 ай бұрын
Look up "Babe Ruth goat testicles" Nobody was ever clean.
@Trav81888
11 ай бұрын
How dare you say Frank Thomas may have used steroids.
@HayabusaRyu
3 ай бұрын
The MLB loved the steroid era when it came to their pocketbook
@danm9460
11 ай бұрын
Why does this have a photo of Barry bonds with the word cheater next to it? I didn't watch because this seems to lack credibility from the beginning
@mattwhite8579
Ай бұрын
Not that I am arguing in either way for or against the use of steroids. But, how is it that overuse of steroids is commonly known to cause serious and severe problems with the eyes up to loss of consistent focus and macular degeneration but using steroids also presumably increased the hand/eye coordination needed to hit a round ball with a round bat?
@tessp100d4
11 ай бұрын
And… it’s was a Federal crime for doing steroids even MLB didn’t have a rule against. It was against the law.
@stingrey1571
11 ай бұрын
no one and i mean no one seems to point out the third player in the steroid era. you had the players, management/owners, and THE MEDIA!!!!! when it was a player they liked, the baseball press looked the other way or made excuses. no one cared until media pariah bonds began obliterating records. then "OH WE HAVE A PROBLEM!" i remember some of the lame excuses writers used for their favorite players. "he's not juicing, he's too skinny/fat." "not him, he's a good guy." "he's not using because he's a christian." (an actual quote from richard justice)
@bdn8161
10 ай бұрын
Sosa and McGwire weren’t only chasing records, but chasing the best cycle.
@robertl3592
23 күн бұрын
Imagine Barry goes on the juice at 30 years old the record book would have been rewritten
@DemetriusEvans-gr9wu
6 ай бұрын
Glad to see the love for Henry
@Damuthafuccka
11 ай бұрын
Correction, Matt Williams had 43 hrs 96 RBI not 54 hrs
@stoneymcneal2458
11 ай бұрын
Why the question mark on the title? Bonds juiced. This fact is not in dispute.
@ryandonovan5205
Жыл бұрын
It was a challenge to see who could have the biggest head and the smallest nuts
@kevincharles1983
11 ай бұрын
Nolan Ryan must be the exception
@jimpesca4076
7 ай бұрын
Sadly, this confirms what I already knew. I quit having any interest in baseball after the 94-95 strike. I was in shock that the rest of the season was cancelled. I had waited so long for the Yankees to finally be a contender again, and they had already won 70 games at this point. Can't express the delight. My grandson who comes from the St. Louis area rarely talks to me after I stupidly cued him in on McGuire (his "hero"). What a complete joke. A record of 60 home runs held for 30 years, and magickly, we have to ass clowns at absurd levels neck, and neck. Yeah right. The steroid use really kicked in after that point, and as we all know, the "long ball" was needed to restore attendance. Every time I hear of a "new" record, I just smile, but still sad inside in what the game has become.
@voicevitality7197
11 ай бұрын
Did you say Tony Gwynn or Tony Glenn?
@randomstuff508
3 ай бұрын
I will die on the hill that Steroids saved baseball. After the 94-95 strike, baseball was at its worst state. Id argue this was the point where Baseball stopped being "America's game."
@RickyWatter32
11 ай бұрын
Damn, after watching this I feel bad for the sport of baseball.
@somekindaguy100
11 ай бұрын
Don't
@RickyWatter32
11 ай бұрын
@@somekindaguy100 I mean it forever tainted the record books…. Forever
@cliffordnewell2445
11 ай бұрын
Great documentary. Fans will never trust baseball again. How can they after a cheater was allowed to break Hank Aaron's home run record?
@sarge420
9 ай бұрын
Add Tiger Woods as well. His head got bigger like Barry Bonds’
@Toogoodtobetrue458
4 ай бұрын
Why is it the fault of the fans? I didn’t inject roids into maguires gluteus Maximus- I don’t even know how to get them. It’s not the fans it’s mlb as a whole.
@tankeater
11 ай бұрын
I was born in 1987... Do you know how AWESOME little league was in the late 90s because of the "steroid era" lmfffaaaooo
@mattdennis7511
4 ай бұрын
Matt had 43 in the strike shortened season.
@travishutchison6459
10 ай бұрын
You spelled "greatest and most entertaining Era of baseball since the 60s" wrong.
@haydenhatcher9314
11 ай бұрын
Idc what people say the serious era of baseball was the best and most exciting time of baseball.
@steveralston8837
10 ай бұрын
McGwire actually wanted to tell the truth at the hearing. But for some baffling reason, they told him the night before that they wouldn't give him immunity.
@gliiitched
11 ай бұрын
What I find weird about this is that barry bonds is the face of the steroid era when it very well could have been Canseco, who literally needed them to get into the league or Lenny Dykstra, who actually did heinous shit with the power his career gave him.
@JG54206
10 ай бұрын
Barry Bonds is definitely a victim of media bias against him due to his adversarial relationship with reporters and journalists as well as the fact that he is the guy broke historic records. Strangely enough McGwire and Sosa who also broke the single season record aren’t the target of such ire from many fans or reporters, largely because they had a better relationship with the media. The main reason he’s the villain is his attitude and relationship with the press, and other players who have said he was incredibly selfish. Clemens (to a lesser extent) is also seen as a villain by many. He didn’t really have a bad relationship with the press but many other players couldn’t stand him.
@jerrypowell8756
Ай бұрын
Pitchers throwing 3mph faster? Where is the data that supports this as fact?
@spida817express
11 ай бұрын
I remember Barry Bonds when he was with the Pirates, he was a superstar back then.He and Bonilla were my favorites. When i saw pics of Bonds from the days of the Pirates to the SF Giant’s i was shocked and honestly hurt by them. I had lost all respect for Barry Bonds and never followed his career after that. I felt like i lost a friend, like a family member that had a brother who was on drugs. That’s how much i liked Barry Bonds( Pittsburgh Pirates) as a player. When the Montreal Expos played the Pirates, I was always there to see the Bonds/ Bonilla express. Why Barry, why. Just one fans opinion !!!
@MarkKrauklis
11 ай бұрын
Bonds COULD have been a great player; instead he will be remembered as just another wanna-be dope fiend!!
@XxCorvette1xX
10 ай бұрын
@@MarkKrauklisyou have no proof that he ever knowingly took steroids lol
@Ninjersey1
10 ай бұрын
@@XxCorvette1xXdon’t need real proof the evidence is there lol your head don’t grow 3-4 hat sizes in your 30s,hell your head don’t grow in your 20s guy transformed into a mutant
@travisgrigsby330
10 ай бұрын
@@MarkKrauklis The man WAS a great player before all that you are just ignorant and blinded in ur hate for BB
@proofessor8062
10 ай бұрын
@@MarkKrauklis average players dont hit 400 homers and steal 400 bases without roids just admit you just don't like bonds lmao
@philmaio2335
Жыл бұрын
Love the video but please slow down a bit
@andthebeatgoeson69
Жыл бұрын
.75 speed might work for ya. I enjoyed the pace l, some folks talk to slow
@MarkKrauklis
10 ай бұрын
Barry's hat size went from 7 3/8 to 13 /1/4; WAY NOT NORMAL!!! Barry's record is totally bogus because it was drug induced. Sadly, as such, Barry will NEVER be in the HALL OF FAME!!!😂😂😂😂😂
@rogerszmodis
3 ай бұрын
Barry Bonds is the GOAT. Countless players have taken steroids but there’s still only one Barry Bonds. Big biceps also don’t give you elite of the elite plate discipline.
@matthewpulizos3444
9 ай бұрын
Never trust the media is the best thing said in this video
@TSgtOzzy
10 ай бұрын
1st: Barry Bonds never failed a single MLB drug test and my hope is that he files a lawsuit against you and takes everything you own. 2nd: During my 2009 military deployment, I weight lifted 6 days a week, ate 4-5 full meals per day, drank tons of water and gained more than 50lbs over a 6 month period, when ALL of my coworkers lost weight from the intense 120 degree heat and our outdoor activities. This included my head getting bigger in size as my hat no longer fit my head. The military was drug testing us 3-4 times a year back then. I've never taken steroids and I've never failed a drug test. With this in mind, why is it unfathomable for you to believe that a player can workout before and after a game (which Bonds did), have a personal trainer, strict diet and won't gain in size? 3rd: The MLB hall of fame is an absolute joke. It's voted on by sports writers, some of whom have never played the game beyond Little League. Why not the players, the previously elected hall of fame members, the owners? The voting sports writers are a bunch of old men who want their beloved game to stay in the 1920's. Last: David Ortiz was not "suspected" of using steroids, he was busted and suspended for his use. Thus, proving my point that the hall of fame is a joke if he got in but they won't let Sosa, McGwire and the rest in. You still have to decipher whether it's a fastball, curve, slider, change-up, sinker, splitter, a ball or a strike, whether you're going to drive it opposite field up the middle or pull it and whether you can get lift on it all in a fraction of a second. Steroids doesn't help with any of that. My hope is that you are sued immediately!
@rocon327
3 ай бұрын
This was taken from the Wikipedia article “BALCO Scandal”. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BALCO_scandal Under the Title of “Media Coverage of the Scandal” The media coverage of the BALCO case was extensive. The San Francisco Chronicle and more specifically Chronicle journalists Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams, have played a prominent role in covering the story, ultimately collaborating in Game of Shadows, a book chronicling the BALCO scandal. Fainaru-Wada and Williams broke the story concerning U.S. track coach Trevor Graham and his admission to turning a syringe laced with THG over to investigators. That syringe was the catalyst for the entire investigation of Conte's lab. These journalists also wrote the story about C.J. Hunter (Marion Jones’ ex-husband) and his interview with an IRS agent, in which Hunter told the agents that Jones was taking performance-enhancing drugs during the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney. Hunter said that at times, he injected the drugs into Jones himself. He also admitted to taking steroids, and said that he had obtained them through Conte. The duo's most groundbreaking story, however, was their report on October 16, 2004, of a secret audio conversation that contained Greg Anderson (Barry Bonds’ trainer) stating that Bonds had been using steroids provided by Victor Conte and himself. Anderson also revealed the names of numerous Olympic athletes that had been provided with "The Clear", boasting that neither they nor Bonds would fail drug tests because the substance was undetectable. After reporting on the BALCO case, Fainaru-Wada and Williams took their interviews and observations and published Game of Shadows, a journalistic book that explored every aspect of BALCO, beginning with Conte's early struggles as an aspiring musician and ending with the federal bust of the BALCO headquarters. Publicly, most of the attention the book received was due to the incriminating evidence of Barry Bond's ties to BALCO. IMHO, I believe that Bonds did take steroids. Men in their mid to late 30s and early forties. Do not get stronger, faster, and better as they age, quite the opposite. Bonds claims to not know what was in "The Clear" gel that he was given to him by BALCO. But, if you get stronger, faster, and feel like your back in your teens or early 20s. Then something does not pass the common sense test. It was later proved that the "The Clear" gel did have steroids in it, it just that the PED tests of that time could not detect it, so Bonds did not test positive for PEDs. That does not mean did not take them. If you allow someone to something to use and not ask what is in it, they you could be considered a fool.
@Hittdogg17
4 күн бұрын
One of the first guys to probably use steroids was Reggie Jackson. He trained at Golds Gym Venice, with bodybuilders who used steroids. Especially what he did during the WS.
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