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@Nala15-Artist
Жыл бұрын
An experience. Bruce loves a good night out (barring no interruptions from the Rogue's Gallery.)
@rodneylindsey849
Жыл бұрын
A writer other than Tom King to put Andrea Beaumont back into his life 🤔 Oh! I’m sorry that would be a gift for us 🖖🏾
@DariusRoland
Жыл бұрын
For me the weirdest thing about Booster Gold is the idea that in 500 years football will still be a big sport. Seriously? I just have real trouble seeing it.
@rodneylindsey849
Жыл бұрын
I’m 60 , I just hope it lasts through the end of my lifetime 🖖🏾
@DariusRoland
Жыл бұрын
Perfect Batman gift: Mask of Zorro on Blu-Ray
@rasheedsanders1067
Жыл бұрын
Booster just proved why there is no shame in simply asking someone what kind of gift they want. I've been doing that for years and haven't destroyed a single timeline.
@pattheplanter
Жыл бұрын
Book tokens are fine for everyone, I think.
@richmcgee434
Жыл бұрын
Just give me the money, I'll get my own gift.
@lughtube5596
Жыл бұрын
@@richmcgee434 Yeah, I’ll just buy myself a Time Machine and make my own timeline
@ashleytuchin7693
Жыл бұрын
Well, as far as you can remember anyway.
@harry_ord
Жыл бұрын
@@lughtube5596 That would have been a fun response for after Booster Gold tells them about what he did.
@ColeMercury
Жыл бұрын
One of the more frustrating things about this story was that there was a story arc in Action Comics (written by Dan Jurgens, Booster Gold’s creator) which ended one month before “The Gift” began, in which Booster has to PREVENT Superman from changing the past. One month he’s sternly telling Clark not to be irresponsible with time travel, and the next month he’s… this.
@lastgoodone9493
Жыл бұрын
This felt like a completely different character. One either damaged from the very beginning or a Booster that is just starting their career, and that doesn't work very well either. I go with an alternate universe Booster, not the one we know.
@richmcgee434
Жыл бұрын
Tom King really isn't a very good writer, is he? And the editors that let him do this are just downright bad at their jobs.
@redonyx5428
Жыл бұрын
it's inconsistencies with DCs storytelling.
@Sayajin3321
Жыл бұрын
@@richmcgee434 The problem is that he has no grasp of characterization. When he writes previously made characters, he does not write them how they act in previous comics, he writes them how he assumes they act. His Batman feels like that dumb Twitter argument where people say "He is just some emotionless asshole beating up the mentally ill and forces traumatized kids into fighting crime" combined with his own mental struggles. He feels like Supergirl should be angry and pissed off about what happened to her planet, so in Woman of Tomorrow, she is a gruff alcoholic badass. Booster Gold was known for being a cocky dumbass, so Tom King writes him as a complete idiot.
@sergioruiz733
Жыл бұрын
I loved that storyline, not just for Booster being the more mature character, but for showing how vulnerable Clark is.
@souffledevill
Жыл бұрын
This comic felt like it was written by someone who hates booster gold lol
@kiteman4913
Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the writer said that he does not have a positive view on booster gold
@That80sGuy1972
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, it takes a lot of creative and mental gymnastics to turn a self-absorbed time bandit into a hero who isn't just pretending to be one.
@MurphyBats1983
Жыл бұрын
...and Batman too.
@ThatRandomDude204
Жыл бұрын
@@That80sGuy1972 He's been getting better he even had a story arc one month before this comic where he scolded Superman for trying to Time Travel (From the creator of Booster Gold) but then we get this from Tom King who hated Booster Gold if I recall correctly
@That80sGuy1972
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatRandomDude204 Kind of cool in making him sort of like a parent who says in subtext "Do as I say, not as I do".
@seraphim111685
Жыл бұрын
When I was deployed overseas, Tom King was a part of a DC Comics USO type tour and visited my base. I got to ask him who Booster Gold was to him. His answer was basically Booster is a screw up. It came across very much as he just read Booster’s wiki and nothing else.
@sebastienlentini2080
Жыл бұрын
That's disappointing. But then again, Tom King feels a lot like Bendis in that he doesn't seems to care about continuity. He has stories to tell and he goes for it. Problem is he doesn't establish his own head canon well enough so most of his writing always feels a bit off, like we missed something between the current continuity and his stories. Too bad, he is a good writer otherwise.
@joelpartee594
Жыл бұрын
@@sebastienlentini2080 I absolutely love his Omega Men and Mister Miracle and Vision, in which he shows he can love and respect old stories. Vision was almost Busiek level in tying old continuity together and making sense of it while still telling a new and surprising story. I think the real problem here is the demands of an ongoing deadline and The Big Two constantly trying to both reinvent and reference their entire histories. King's run was uneven, to put it kindly, but I think editorial bears a lot of responsibility for there being three issues before a pre-designed event that are both world changing and disposable.
@TroyPacelli
Жыл бұрын
All I got from this was what I already knew: Tom King has issues that need to be addressed, and he's turned DC comics into his personal working through trauma.
@aurahoneydew9607
Жыл бұрын
Well he tried but we all collectively boo'd him. Which is justified if you're sucking with Batman to the point mainline says fall you got it coming
@theblocksays
Жыл бұрын
It's a nicer way of saying he's an overrated hack, after Heroes in Crisis I do NOT understand what's the appeal.
@thoomolong
Жыл бұрын
DC can have Tom King after what he did to the Vision at Marvel.
@christopherb501
Жыл бұрын
@@thoomolong Correction: BOUNDLESS can have him.
@corielldoghc
Жыл бұрын
@@thoomolong You mean make Vision good and interesting?
@dallasgrey4247
Жыл бұрын
How does Hal have the will to kill himself? He doesn’t even know what will is.
@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ
Жыл бұрын
More of a stubborness really
@hrodga
Жыл бұрын
Seeing what happened when he found out, I guess he was better off not knowing.
@ianfinrir8724
Жыл бұрын
@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZHmm, six of one.
@X_Blake
Жыл бұрын
I went from wanting to kick Booster in the balls to "this man needs legitimate help." Also the what if Bruce's parents were alive was done better in BTAS.
@ashleytuchin7693
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! The BTAS episode, Perchance to Dream handles this idea so much better.
@hotspurre
Жыл бұрын
"“I won’t live a lie, no matter how attractive you make it!” - a particularly poignant line, really, considering it was spoken by Kevin Conroy
@apollolux
Жыл бұрын
Came to the comments looking for this.
@leephillips4402
5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately that's what this story arc leads to.
@mediumjohnsilver
Жыл бұрын
There was a story in Detective Comics #500 in which The Phantom Stranger takes Batman to a parallel Earth to prevent the death of that Earth’s Thomas and Martha Wayne. I remember it was done much better than the Booster Gold story. Another momentous thing about that issue - it contained Walter Gibson’s final story.
@torrancemoore6152
Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought of when I saw the premise. It handled that ripple effect bit better despite having less time to do so imo
@megaman9393
Жыл бұрын
I love that story! It’s in one of the DC Blue Ribbon Digests I read when I was little that my dad gave to me. I think Sasha could make a great video out of it, especially if it gets compared to this.
@verilyheld
Жыл бұрын
Aye, I was thinking of it also. In it, the child Bruce Wayne sees a caped, masked figure rescue him and his parents from assault and death. Inspired, he begins training to become that world's first hero, Batman.
@ShadowWingTronix
Жыл бұрын
There's also Batman: Gotham Adventures #33, a DCAU tie-in comic where the Stranger shows a frustrated Bruce what life would have been like had his parents lived, only for the people he cares about now leading horrible lives and the city not in good shape while he becomes worse than his public persona. It's a far better story than this.
@verilyheld
Жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, Walter Gibson-- wasn't he a writer for the Shadow radio show and books? If so, cool!
@euansmith3699
Жыл бұрын
Sasha puts a lot more thought in to this review than Tom King put in to writing the original story.
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
Жыл бұрын
@@GenghisDon1970 Is he really that bad?
@ExeErdna
Жыл бұрын
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 Yeah, he kinda mean towards the characters he writes
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
Жыл бұрын
This story was so bad, it actually made me mad reading it.
@starsiegeplayer
Жыл бұрын
@@ExeErdna And people in real life.
@GoldenProxyy
Жыл бұрын
As a massive Booster fan who loves the development he’s received over the years this story made me really sad. It feels Tom King only had a passing knowledge of him and used him anyway
@kemmdog4444
Жыл бұрын
Booster Gold is just the gift that keeps on giving.
@Lukecash2
Жыл бұрын
I think there are two things we should seriously consider: 1) That this was the setup for why Booster was getting treatment in Heroes in Crisis 2) That this whole adventure was in Booster's Head. Or, he truly was in another dimension- which is why psycho Bruce didn't disappear right away.
@tsnoob4669
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense considering that Tom King also wrote Heroes in Crisis.
@RedXlV
9 ай бұрын
3) Tom King is a terrible writer.
@slake9727
Жыл бұрын
The butterfly effect. Does that mean Ashton Kucher should play Booster Gold on the big screen?
@CasuallyComics
Жыл бұрын
That movie messed me up when I was younger lol
@pengwin_
Жыл бұрын
@@CasuallyComics the original ending is beautifully tragic and would have justified the rest of the movies badness, but then chickened out.
@Emery101
Жыл бұрын
I actually am okay with this casting.
@evrypixelcounts
Жыл бұрын
Replace Booster with Bat-Mite, and have Booster trying to stop him? Idk if that would work seeing that saving Bruce's parents would mean no Batman,and Bat-Mite is Batman's biggest fan. But a little thinking could have gone a long way with this one.
@booksvsmovies
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of DCAU riffs on Bruce's parents being alive BTAS had an episode where someone fabricated a world where his parents were alive that actually worked "Perchance to Dream". It really packed an emotional punch. From Bruce initially being completely unable to believe the reality was true to finally accepting the joy of seeing his parents alive and then having it all torn away from him in the end. It was such a gut punch and a great exploration of the scars losing his parents left on Bruce.
@booksvsmovies
Жыл бұрын
the tragedy wasn't that Bruce had to be Batman because without him Gotham would be in shambles. The tragedy was that life if his parents were alive would have been great but that reality cannot exist.
@Lastjustice
Жыл бұрын
That was precisely what I thought when they were trying do Batman seeing his origin undone and how it would effect it.
@ShadowWingTronix
Жыл бұрын
The Mad Hatter, but he forgot that reading in dreams is not the the same as reality, and this is where Bruce started to realize something was wrong. Batman was a separate person and doing all the Batman stuff so Bruce could just live a happy life without worries. He ended up confronting his alter ego when he realized "Batman" was the only other connection to the illusion. It really is a great episode and a better Bat-take on "For The Man Who Has Everything" than this thing.
@bombseel
Жыл бұрын
I think you're onto something with booster's mental state. This would be a much better story if they intentionally made Booster unwell from the beginning, and have it matter. I don't think King could write that story, but someone should Love the wig this week!
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
Жыл бұрын
Except he’s not crazy, but in this story he’s completely deranged, the story is so bad.
@bombseel
Жыл бұрын
@InfamyOrDeath -__- yeah, and it's not even consistent with how deranged
@jeffscroger7674
Жыл бұрын
I love how Booster starts as a fake hero posing as a real hero, and then develops into a real hero that people think is a fake hero. Batman figures this out in the post-52 Booster series, and it's portrayed at the end of the Justice League Unlimited episode The Greatest Story Never Told (ssn1 ep7), kzitem.info/news/bejne/w62N1p18fap7ZXo
@shadowapple8890
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've always seen this story as Booster trying to fix what he'd done to the timeline loads of times, and failing. So the opening scene in my head is a Booster who's seen the world fall apart a bunch of times already and is now just... running with it. Like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day after he'd done it awhile. I don't know if anyone shares this opinion, but I think it explains why Booster acts so unhinged throughout the story.
@megamonmon
Жыл бұрын
If this was out of continuity that would be fine, but it's not so it doesn't work
@tomorrow4eva
Жыл бұрын
I agree with Sasha: If they established something like this up front, it could work. I mean, time travel has to be a bit of a mind screw after a while.
@AGuyNamedRicky
Жыл бұрын
Your Batman “NOOO” got me good 😂
@CasuallyComics
Жыл бұрын
Lol my favourite line in this to do as Batman was "you winked I saw you!!!"
@quantafreeze
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Future Man and Booster Gold ever crossed paths
@CasuallyComics
Жыл бұрын
Lol has anyone seen Futureman and Booster in a room together?
@HandofOmega
Жыл бұрын
Only Lois knows for sure!
@robertcringle4865
Жыл бұрын
Maybe, they did have the same tailor.
@Ichiyama22
Жыл бұрын
I bet they go out for drinks with Tommy Tomorrow
@richmcgee434
Жыл бұрын
@@Ichiyama22 Y'know, I was reading some Golden Age Action Comics from the late 40s the other day, which had Tommy Tomorrow stories as one of the regular features alongside Superman, Congo Bill and Vigilante. Tommy's not really a time traveller at all in that era, just a retro-scifi space patrolman in a solar system where we've got all the planets colonized ala Victorian scifi, science be damned. The most surreal part of it was that way they start every story by informing readers that Tommy lives in the far distant future...of 1989. Points for being optimistic, at least.
@viciouschaser
Жыл бұрын
True story, a friend of mine had given me both this and later HiC as actual "Gifts" for my Birthday and Yule respectively. While I *know* their heart was in the right place..I never so desperately wanted to have my own time machine to go back and recommend they just get me socks instead.
@Jezee213
Жыл бұрын
I love the Booster Gold coloured eye shadow! 👍🏻
@CasuallyComics
Жыл бұрын
Someone noticed! Lol
@cthulhutheendless1587
Жыл бұрын
Haha I thought that was a lens flare!
@spidermonkeybm
Жыл бұрын
the Tom King run on Batman has equal parts like and dislike in my heart. some really good moments, some moments that genuinely made me take a break
@mauricecherry1209
Жыл бұрын
This is an actual time where the quote "Why would Hal Jordan do this?" makes too much sense.
@sneakyskunk1
Жыл бұрын
Even when she is gutting a bad story, she always sounds so cheerful. Also, that Green Lantern sequence earlier in the video was absolutely terrifying.
@Dougeb7
Жыл бұрын
I've only read the Booster stories in "Future Lost," and of course, I've watched your videos on him. I'm far from being an expert on Booster. But, to me, character flaws are obviously part of the character design. And in the older stories at least, he also has some goodness in his heart that makes the flaws forgivable and even endearing. I don't think Tom King struck the right balance here. Just my two cents. Nice analytical wrap-up at the end; I'm always amazed at how well you digest a story and explain your take. Thanks for 600!
@megamonmon
Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is that this story only really exists to traumatize booster and get him into heroes in crisis
@Dougeb7
Жыл бұрын
@@megamonmon Wow. Some writers just were not meant for some characters.
@callumcooney-waterhouse7851
Жыл бұрын
So, some parts of "The Gift" make a bit more sense if you'd been reading Batman's solo title for a while. A few years earlier, there had been a storyline called Endgame where the Joker created a virus that turned people into Joker zombies. He even developed special strains that could effect specific superheroes and infected the other members of the Justice League like Wonder Woman, Superman and The Flash so Batman couldn't call them for help. The presence of "Jokerized" citizens in this new timeline seems to indicate that something similar happened and Batman wasn't around to stop it, hence why so many heroes are dead. Being familiar with the Endgame storyline also makes Duke Thomas' fate a little more clear, as both of his parents became brain damaged by the Joker during that storyline and presumably, so did he in this timeline. I think the implication was supposed be that Hal was in the early stages of turning into a Joker zombie and that is why he killed himself. This would somewhat explain why Dick Grayson is trying to kill any superheroes that come into Gotham, since he has likely seen the damage Jokerized superhumans can do and wants to keep anyone else from becoming infected. (Your point still stands that it makes no sense for Dick to call himself Batman in this timeline.) The stuff about Catwoman becoming a serial killer in this timeline makes a little more sense (but also not) in the context of King's Batman run. During King's run, there was this ongoing storyline about Catwoman have supposedly gone over the edge and become a mass murderer at some point in the recent past so Selina's behavior in this story was likely a reference to that. It was eventually explained that several dozen terrorists destroyed the orphanage where Selina grew up, killing all the children inside, and so Catwoman tracked each of them down and subjected them to a vigilante execution. Which, I can see why a lot people in universe would be disturbed by that and not want Batman to associate with her anymore, but characters in the main Batman timeline talk about her like she is an unhinged killer like she is the Booster Gold timeline. And then it was reveled that Selina didn't kill anyone. Her childhood friend, Holly, who had gone to the same orphanage, killed those terrorists and Catwoman chose to take the fall. (Which just raises so many further questions 😑). This is pure speculation on my part, but I got the sense that King started out his Batman run not knowing where he was going to take the "Selina Kyle is a killer now" subplot and was making it up as he went along.
@kbaccari88
Жыл бұрын
10:25 Booster Gold babbling song lyrics while Catwoman ignores him is very on brand for Tom King, in the worst way.
@MastermindAXL
Жыл бұрын
Booster is an interesting character, and I LOVE Tom King's "Batman" run...but he did Booster dirty in this story lol Congrats to 600 episodes!
@CasuallyComics
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I saw the number the other day and it blew my mind. It certainly doesn't feel like 600+ videos.
@MastermindAXL
Жыл бұрын
@@CasuallyComics You're welcome! And yeah: time flies when you're having fun!
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
Жыл бұрын
Wow, you love Kings Batman? He nearly destroyed the character, they took him off early before he did any more damage & because everyone hated it, it was a horrendous run.
@xthelegend89
Жыл бұрын
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- I liked it, but I can easily see why a lot of people hate it, especially coming off of Snyder’s run.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
Жыл бұрын
@@xthelegend89 It’s my most hated run, and it’s the run that got me to search for King online, before that I had never searched for any creator before, at the time I barely looked at who was writing the stories. I bought for the characters, not the writers, I would only remember a writer if I really liked the comic, like Geoff Johns. But about halfway through his run I started to hate this run so much that I had to search to see who this Tom King guy was, funnily enough I think it was this story “The Gift” that was the final straw that made me search, or “Knightmares”, whichever came first. It was after “Jokes & Riddles” anyway, I remember that, that was when I started to really dislike the run, that arc was terrible. But “The Gift” was just horrendous, I absolutely hated this story, it was completely nonsensical and I’ve no idea how the editors signed off on this drivel.
@badman3000
Жыл бұрын
Booster here is so out of character in the story makes me wonder if the writer actually knows who the character actually is or just write a brief Google description of him.
@BenChanNYC
Жыл бұрын
King actually wrote a really good Hal story in his "Darkseid War" GL one-shot where Hal achieves, then rejects godhood. There's also a time-travel bit where he talks to himself as a boy - good stuff and not as trauma-focused as King tends to be. It was downright hopeful.
@nicholashodges201
Жыл бұрын
He must have been taking his meds when he wrote that
@deuntaethomas7437
Жыл бұрын
That was steaming 💩💩💩💩💩
@bombseel
Жыл бұрын
Ra's controls Eurasia? When was that his plan? They always make him a cartoon villain for some reason Also not my boy Duke... hasn't editorial hurt him enough
@tomorrow4eva
Жыл бұрын
I think his original plan was to save the world by killing off most of humanity. Eco-terrorist! With mystical chemical baths! And a sexy daughter!
@SpiderS2099
Жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating when Justice League Action cartoon made for kids had much more mature booster than comic book by King made for older fans.
@tomorrow4eva
Жыл бұрын
The cartoon probably had a real editorial team.
@sandwichqueen
Жыл бұрын
I have an idea on how to rewrite this story. What if instead of trying to save the parents, Booster trys to snag them out of the timeline to come to the wedding. He fails to do so, but he spooks them enough not to go down the alley. When he returns we could have a similar story, but it makes more sense
@mr.sand7899
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the DCAU version of For the Man Who Has Everything that is the only adaptation of Alan Moore's work that he said he liked.
@bishopcruz
Жыл бұрын
Man. This is the time Tom King was staring to worry me. Had he pulled off the wedding I would have forgiven him. But he proved he became a Jeoh Loeb... he's either awesome or horrible... and rarely anything in between.
@taylornunnelee2538
Жыл бұрын
This thing really heralded what was coming by Tom King with Heroes In Crisis. I was glad they gave Dan Jurgens Blue and Gold a little bit after this.
@TheSapphirewave
Жыл бұрын
There's a lot to be said about King's Batman, and I can't say much good about it. Personally I consider #36 and #37 one of the best Superman/Batman stories I've read, but that's the best thing I can say about the whole run. I think at the time I was more forgiving of the low points of the run because I was hyped for the wedding. Or maybe now that the wedding has passed I'm more critical of it. Hard to say.
@AvatAR42420
Жыл бұрын
This whole story feels like a fever dream. As for an actual good gift for Batman, something one of a kind with a sentimental attachment. Maybe a screen used Grey Ghost costume....though something more connected to his relationship with Catwoman would be better. Being a time traveler...maybe a piece of her costume from when they first met. Still have to watch out for the butterfly effect on that one. Knowing my luck, that'd end up killing Catwoman.
@ProfessorHurt
Жыл бұрын
This was the third worst Tom King story at DC for me. #1 be Heroes in Crisis (but then again it seems Editorial aka Dan DiDio is more to blame for that than King). But Batman #81? Yeah, that one just takes the cake as being worse than this. From the start of Bruce/Selina coming back from a mini vacation with the former thinking Alfred is safe (he's not) and then Damian getting freed by the entire Bat-Family (minus Ric and Stephanie) and then all of them jobbing to Thomas Wayne off-panel. Cause...
@fayertreijd919
10 ай бұрын
Great video, and your rendition of the Bat-Man's voice tickles me to no end
@42Caio
Жыл бұрын
I hate what King did with Booster in this story. Honestly, I'm not very fond of how Booster has been handled in the past decade or so in general. I love his original run and the resurgence the character had with 52 and his second book in the 2000s, but the 2010s saw the character change to something almost irrecognizable at times. I really don't like it. At this point I feel not only fans but a lot of writers in DC only see him as a wacky lunatic verging on complete psychopath like in The Gift, and keeping making stories featuring this bizarro version of Booster, only further perpetuating this mischaracterization. It's similar to how I feel about Cassandra Cain, though in that case DC has been trying to make amends recently, it still doesn't make up for all the shit. As someone who started reading comics in the late 90s and had a lot of contact with 80s comics as well due to resellers and reprints, it feels like the more modern era of DC consists mainly of fucking up the characters I grew up loving (Wally West, Booster, Cass, the Titans as a group, etc) becaus they were legacy characters or "late" additions the dinosaurs running the company see as expendable.
@RennocD
Жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of this story and wish it was able to be more fleshed out. I am glad it means we get more Booster on this channel!
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
Жыл бұрын
Yea that’s not Booster, I don’t know what character it is, but it’s not Booster.
@RandallHallKaizenReiki
Жыл бұрын
There was a Teen Titans Annual where Dick tells his story to Jericho. He says that by helping him bring his parents' killers to justice, Bruce saved Dick from becoming like Bruce. I believe Bruce has said this somewhere as well. He took Dick in to stop him from becoming like Bruce.
@tsnoob4669
Жыл бұрын
It was in Young Justice
@portsyde3466
Жыл бұрын
I tried Tom King's run of Batman...couldn't get past the first volume. It just didn't feel like Batman. Now, after learning how he wholely disregards the love for certain characters and writes in character assassinations (Wally West front and center here), I'm glad I dropped it.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
Жыл бұрын
You’re lucky you didn’t read it, it’s terrible.
@suleymanbabak1973
Жыл бұрын
I realized Tom King sucks at writing Batman relatively early on, when Batman had Alfred threaten an helpless Psycho Pirate at gunpoint to use his power to try to heal Gotham Girl. Batman would never have a plan involving threatening someone at gunpoint, he would never ask someone to threaten anyone at gunpoint, and he would never have Alfred, of all people, threaten anyone at gunpoint. His run is full of boring references no one cares about, and cheap gimmicks (I'm Bane, I'm Batman; Oh Cat, oh Bat; it was the ship, no it was the alley; Kiteman Hell Yeah; there was the war of jokes and riddles and it was so cool and I guess you had to be there but it was really something; let's reference the whole rogue gallery for the heck of it...). He's especially boring when he's self referencing.
@spencermatthewseams6736
Жыл бұрын
Sasha’s Batman voice is always hilarious
@nicholashodges201
Жыл бұрын
What a thoughtful gift. Eobard would be proud
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
Жыл бұрын
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@antoyal
Жыл бұрын
19:45 Tom King, ladies and gentlemen! Man, comparing this with the Superman annual was even more brutal than the story itself...
@ItsTheFizz
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, "The Gift" was the first sign that Tom King wasn't the infallible wunderkind that fans and DC Editorial was building him up to be... and yet it still didn't prepare us for how awful Heroes In Crisis would be...
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
Жыл бұрын
It's bizarre that Booster Gold spends so much of the comic in the dark alternate reality where all his friends are dead or crazy smiling and remarking about how cool the new timeline is.
@torrancemoore6152
Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced every Tom King batman story is just one of those ever worsening alternate lives he experienced while in the omega sanction.. Also, based off of his writing, you could make the argument that he doesn't like/ feels some kind of way about every superhero except for superman
@NichoMania2
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of Booster Gold stories, post Jurgens [still need to read the Geoff Johns stories, glad a tpb reprint seems to be happening, but would've loved an omnibus], have the problem of assuming egotistical heart-of-gold celebrity heroes are all morons when it comes down to it...I can't think of one bad story with those types of characters, where it doesn't come down to 'they act COMPLETELY out of character because they act way dumber than they're supposed to be'... I don't know why it happens, maybe the authors find it more funny, or maybe it's their way of giving the character karma, while accidentally turning them into a strawman of the character they once were in the process... But really, it felt like Booster was a lot more multidimensional in that first run I read, by Jurgens... The second hardcover really meandered near the end, and Millenium felt like it shot the entire storyline in the foot, with what it did to the supporting cast, and then Booster himself... But whether it's cartoons or comics, he's not an idiot. The man stole a bunch of superhero gear out of desperation, not stupidity. Let alone, he got away with it more or less. I don't know if it's the sort of himbo-flanderization that seems to happen a little recently to characters or if it's just the weird IQ drain that happens, but I really think that ends up being a key part of what brings these stories down a peg. But that's just my take, I hope the Geoff Johns post-52 run proves to be even better than I expect it to be, since I've heard great stuff about it. 😁
@d-manthecaptain1382
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Skeets revealed to be evil at one point? Did he become good again after that?
@karldettlinger467
Жыл бұрын
During 52. Mr. Mind was mutated by radiation and was using Skeets as a cocoon. Skeets got better.
@d-manthecaptain1382
Жыл бұрын
@@karldettlinger467 Ah!
@ghouly16
Жыл бұрын
Booster being dead inside because during one of the runs he's the guy that deals with all the time travel problems meaning he has seen everyone die a hundred times in a hundred ways only for it all to undone by him meaning he has an untold amout of trauma is an interesting point to take for time travelers stories. This story doesn't do it its focuses to much on the gross spectacle of "oh no batman gone" and gives of flashpoint paradox vibes in the worst way and doesnt focus on the self introspection or using Skeets as a means of bringing it up.
@tomorrow4eva
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Tom picked up on a great idea, and then just completely botched the execution.
@DaMoniable
Жыл бұрын
I think the most tragic part is that the whole 'what happens if bruces parents never die' idea is very well explored in the Batman/Superman comics. Also i have to admit. My love for booster comes entirely from JLU. They did him so damn well in the one episode they let him shine in, and i'll never forget it. He should be explored more often, because his entire existence explores what it means to be a super hero at its very foundation, because he doesnt really understand it. Kinda reminds me of Marvels Speedball.
@Yoshimitsu4prez
Жыл бұрын
This issue was in some collection I bought lol, I felt so bad for Booster. He just wanted to get Batman something nice and personal
@CasuallyComics
Жыл бұрын
He should've had a bat engraved on that cheese tray lol
@Yoshimitsu4prez
Жыл бұрын
@@CasuallyComics 💀💀💀
@decidueyezealot8611
Жыл бұрын
His decision to taunt him with his dead parents as a gift be questionable though
@evanrobinson5682
Ай бұрын
I feel like the core concept of "What if Bruce Wayne's Parents survived" is interesting and worth exploring but there's several changes I would've made: 1.Have Booster being in universe inspired by Flashpoint NOT the Black Mercy (Barry literally describes the retained memories of his mom in his childhood as A GIFT) 2. More logical connections to why what has changed has (The Waynes lose most of their fortune being extorted by corrupt officials, Harvey Dent becomes a corrupt/weak-willed pushover mayor, Dick becomes a gun toting ROBIN, Flass is the commissioner, etc.) 3. Show explicitly the deaths caused in Gotham as crime never was fought effectively - I'd have Booster legit run into the graves of some of his ancestors, and the graves of other Batfam supporting characters (Montoya, Gordon, Kate, just for starters) 4. Booster immediately starts feeling some deleterious effects of "Time sickness" as he's inadvertently erased himself from the timeline, Skeets has to kind of push him to the point Skeets undoes the events, not Booster in the end. 5. Have Booster have been really cocky about the plan- saying that Flash is an amateur at time travel anyway, needing to use the speedforce instead of a real time machine. (So this is implied to be an early iteration of Booster) 6. Skeets is the only one who gets to remember the whole thing. Skeets blows up his old self at the time of saving the Waynes and forces Booster back to the future- lying to him saying it was some sort of time anomaly backlash, theorizing that such overt alterations to the timeline are metaphysically impossible with their understanding of time travel. (Leave with the implication this is not the first time Booster has done something so boneheaded and Skeets has reversed it.)
@fran_valz
Жыл бұрын
This story feels like flashpoint with all the random shit that changed, except for starting another reboot
@TheRichandmighty
Жыл бұрын
Gah Booster has been done dirty so much in recent years and I hate that happening to one of my favorite characters
@dcbandit
Жыл бұрын
Feels like Batman writers trying to write a Booster Gold story.
@JMtheBard
Жыл бұрын
God I cannot stand this story cause Booster deserved better. I wonder about the intention of changing his character since this Booster stuck up until Heroes in friggin Crisis
@dupersuper1938
Жыл бұрын
Tom King: the most hit and miss comic book writer in the history of the medium. The same writer that gave us the Vision 12 issue mini series gave us Heroes in Crisis. He gave us Superman: Up in the Sky, and he gave us The Gift. Like a Targaryen, you don't know which way his coin has landed until you read the book.
@cupguin
Жыл бұрын
Comics trying to be Alan Moore comics are some of worst comics in existence. Whatever you feel about Moore and his work he understands the medium and is able to use it in a way few others can. There's, typically, a narrative depth that matters beyond the obvious high points. The Alan Moore movie adaptations are the most obvious version of this because they all miss the point. V for Vendetta just too obsessed with contemporary politics to get the point. I still haven't gotten over Bernie and Bernard's storyline missing from Watchmen. The less said about From Hell and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen the better. Even if the end result isn't a disaster you're still always looking at the worse version which you can't help but compare to the original. Of course not just a Moore problem but his stories tend to push boundaries in ways that are difficult to handle if you don't have his sensibilities and skills as an artist.
@zxshadowxz
4 ай бұрын
I can’t believe we missed out on Dick running around as a hyper violent militarised Robin.
@LCBK
10 ай бұрын
Why didn’t booster just go back in time tell Thomas and Martha Wayne they will sadly not live to see their son’s wedding, so he’s here to take them to their son’s wedding, boom a good gift, a week with his dead parents from the past
@RetroTaylor94
Жыл бұрын
This story had some of the messiest time rules of any DC story I've seen. Usually they just cleanly do the "One Timeline/Butterfly Effect" thing. Which already makes Booster Gold and Reverse Flash both insane to be dicking around in the past.
@DCPatrol
Жыл бұрын
I don't really remember it. I know I liked the Tom King run but I can't, remember much about this. I probably liked it but I really appreciate your insights
@andrijherasymenko
Жыл бұрын
Sasha's voice acting is hilarious 😂 NOOO!!!
@claudialomeli4048
10 ай бұрын
Tom King dealing with his demons through writing stories, sometimes bad stories are the result, other times they're just stories that exist.
@indumatipngtuber2790
Жыл бұрын
Clearly, The Joker found the Black Mercy and modified it with Joker Toxins, put it on Booster Gold, and Booster Gold screwed up everything by time traveling because he was convinced all the things he was seeing were real and going to lead to a good outcome.
@smilingstingray5537
Жыл бұрын
All of this could've been prevented if someone had just sent him the wedding registry...
@jerr0.
Жыл бұрын
I feel like every critique you had of this applies to far too many of King's stories. Out of character moments, botched exploration of psychological trauma, heroes hurting themselves/each other, doesn't make sense, bad humor, overly graphic violence... I don't think I'll ever get what people see in him.
@redscratch585
Жыл бұрын
I'd managed to have forgotten reading The Gift... perhaps because it felt a little incomplete, as if I'd missed an issue somewhere along the way. In many ways it's precisely the alternative universe I enjoy, but for a lot of the reasons you highlight, it left me a little cold. Alongside Jurgens run, it's tonal differences felt like it was supposed to build to some turning point that it never reached. Still, it was something I read with a "thank god they didn't forget about Booster", a prayer I hope never ends.
@grkpektis
Жыл бұрын
This POS comic was the last straw for me with that hack Tom King, I never read any of his Batman comics after this
@grkpektis
Жыл бұрын
This POS comic was the last straw for me with Tom King, I never read any of his Batman comics after this
@AtlarianOG
Жыл бұрын
Booster done right is one of my favorite characters. Now let me just say. In this story Booster was most definitely not in any shape or form done right. Also you missed the chance to say that the fart jokes just stunk
@nishidohellhillsruler6731
Жыл бұрын
Wait, if he had never become Batman, would Bruce still talk like he smoked a whole tropical island country's stock of cigars? Also, "0nlyfans of Booster Gold" sounds like something that totally could happen. Search your feelings, you know it to be true! Ha-ha! 😃
@genbu2366
Жыл бұрын
I think the weird thing about this story is that Superman/Batman did a very similar story where Bruce lived in a timeline where his parents lived after timeline shenanigans But in that story as soon as he gets his memories back he becomes Batman again and spends the story brooding over how he has memories of both his parents alive and dead and how he handles it
@nickelliott1174
Жыл бұрын
Tom King is just another talentless hack, just like most of the "writers " at DC and Marvel for the past decade or so. They have absolutely ruined almost every character at the big two. Sad times to fans who followed these characters for so many decades. The people who don't have the talent to create, will instead tear down what others have built.
@brutalnobody5240
Жыл бұрын
Batman not responding the same way to guns makes a little sense, Trauma in adulthood is a different beast from trauma in childhood
@esean1
Жыл бұрын
As...interesting...as this story sounds, the idea of Booster becoming kind of unhinged as a result of all the time travel is fascinating. However, I'm not sure I trust DC to explore this without making Booster irredeemable. I really love a lot of Tom KIng's work. SUPERMAN: UP IN THE SKY, OMEGA MEN, THE VISION are all, IMHO, top-shelf reads. I've read some of his BATMAN run and enjoyed it but this story feels reallt screwy. HEROES IN CRISIS would have been excellent as a story with creator-owned analog characters. As an actual "canon" DCU story, it does too much damage to characters that needs waving away by later editors and writers.
@leephillips4402
5 ай бұрын
Everyone wants to do their own For the Man who has Everything, even Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir. And yet this is probably the worst one with very little competition.
@bradleywaddell6605
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. Tom king’s run was awful. It could easily be put in an alternate timeline or something since no one is written correctly or well
@dohavename6775
10 ай бұрын
The moral is, one maybe shouldn't write a character one hasn't got even a solid personal interpretation of. Maybe not in this particular story, but I think it's not necessarily a bad thing to cherry-pick character's history, boy oh boy, especially in comics, where there's multiple runs of everyone, then continuities swell with retcons and alternate timelines/universes and there exist entirely all-powerful entities (maybe Phoenix, idk). I'd say to rely too much on full history of character makes it stiff and derivative, what one should do, though, would be what Alan Moore did in "For the man who has everything" - he focused on inciting incidents for characters and cut everything else out. Still, personally I prefer JLAU take on this story, because Moore's a bit too overindulgent with secondary cast. JLAU cut Robin out with no loss to the story, Diana deservedly landed finishing blow after taking beating for so long and us not getting to see her idea of ideal world, and papa Jor-El scaled back on his whole sect thing, instead fleshing out better the idea of Clark's actual happiness with his wife and son.
@ryanmckm7368
7 ай бұрын
I feel like under Gunn, Booster of ALL characters would fit his style of not-exactly-well-adjusted but with a heart of gold and can get pretty emotional. I'm interested to see, even if he doesn't have any on-hands involvement
@wise_girl9388
7 ай бұрын
Given the fact that this took place after the whole Court of Owls reveal and the fact that Dick was supposed to be the for lack of a better term "sacrifice" that the circus offered up to the Court but he was spared from that fate due to Bruce taking him in, shouldn't Dick have become a member of the Court like one of if not the highest-ranking Talons instead of Batman in this alternate reality? If Bruce had been spending time with his parents the night Dick's parents were killed, the circus would have handed him over to the Court as originally planned so him becoming Batman due to the death of his parents make no sense. Also, Booster trying to workshop how to fix the problem in front of Selina reminds me of that "Have you ever had a dream that you um, that you um had" Vine.
@darkmask5933
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, biggest thing that makes me think is that Dick Grayson should totally not have been Batman, give him the same backstory and have him being the Ringmaster. Play it serious, but have Dick say things like "The city is a circus, full of freaks and clowns, and it needs a Ringmaster to keep them in line!" You could even have the 'Bat-family' still be around, bring back Jason Todd, Stephanie Brown, and Tim Drake and make them into more gritty circus themed side-kicks for Dick. Jason can be Strongman, Stephanie can be Trapeze, and Tim can be Tamer.
@jacobsedlack1173
Жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear about anything a comic Tom King is working on I ask myself a question: What does Tom King hate the most today? A) Himself B) His gender C) His Country D) The character he's writing E) The reader The answer is always F) All of the above. Because he's a miserable cur and a cyberbully.
@jamesallard7223
Жыл бұрын
Soooo... it's a Booster Gold story, then. My take on him is that he was always meant to be a stumble-bum, and while he may have a number of sad things happen, he is always shown as more Goof than Hero. He is kind of like Deadpool without an actual motormouth, or like Ambush Bug that doesn't see he is actually in a comic. Mmmmm.... Ambush Bug. CHEEKS!
@That80sGuy1972
Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Zoom (reverse Flash) finds out that Booster Gold changed the past... so, Zoom goes back and makes sure Booster's changes have a LOT of blowback by pushing a small thing here, a small thing there, all making Booster Gold think that it was HIS time travel alone that made everything go so bad. And, it would fit, that speedster is the ultimate time-travel troll.
@StoneAxeArky
Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I read it, but I distinctly remember disliking The Gift when I read it. Tom King's Batman run could fluctuate in quality, but ultimately I think The Gift was one of his worst Batman story arcs. Booster Gold deserved better, same with Hal Jordan.
@critical_thinker0668
Жыл бұрын
Man this story was stupid. Booster can be an irresponsible jackass sometimes, but this was something else entirely. And all just to set up HEROES IN CRISIS, and we all know how that turned out. Ugh.
@ericmiller93
Жыл бұрын
Silver St. Cloud should be brought back. Catwoman and Talia are the obvious choices for Batman, but if he had Silver he’d have some semblance of a normal life. He’d actually get to be Bruce Wayne and not pretend to be Bruce when it helps him be Batman.
@mr.sand7899
Жыл бұрын
If I learned anything from Tom King's writing it's he needs help. Seriously Tom King get help and stop putting your problems into comics. I am sick of reading characters that I like be out of character just so they can be a mouth piece for you and your problems.
@gabrielrussell5531
Жыл бұрын
"Nothing against fart jokes". Fart jokes are classics. They're in Shakespeare and the Canterbury Tales.
@frogmouth2
Жыл бұрын
Nothing could have set up that this version of booster is acing like a sociopath better then Hal killing himself infront of booster and he says “awesome”. Also I wanted to mention this. Geoff johns wrote both a shazam story and a booster gold story where Mr mind uses the bodies of the titular characters’ fathers to mess with them, serving as a twist near the story climaxes. Idk why geoff johns did it and I do like both stories. I just think it’s funny.
@ThePatxiao
Жыл бұрын
I think the thing that screws me up is if Batman has some memories of how the world should be. Why isn't he more shooken up that he killed Dick. HE KILLED HIS SON.
@angelusumbrae
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like this is a mix of For the Man Who Has Everything with a Flash Point triggering event, but with Bruce's parents instead of Wally's mother.
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