Nobody wants him to be Batman. The villains don't want to be Batman because he's too damn good at it and he keeps them from their schemes. His family and friends don't want him to be Batman because of what a toll it takes on him and what type of guy he has to be. The public doesn't want him to be Batman because even though he gets results he scares the hell out of everybody. Bruce doesn't want to be Batman because deep down inside he really wishes he could go back to being Bruce before his parents got shot. Absolutely nobody, wants Bruce to be Batman
@brantheman44
25 күн бұрын
Pin of Respect
@pacosoentken303
25 күн бұрын
Except us, the fans
@jeronimo196
25 күн бұрын
I think the public wants there to be Batman. The people he saves want him to be Batman. Half the police force works with him - and want to work with him.
@XSilver_WaterX
24 күн бұрын
That's cruel reality of next gen writer APEALLING to fans instead of the fiction character. Unlike Marvel writers TRYING to genuinely kill off Bruce Banner but his fan-character jumble keeps him from proper peace.
@chelcentral6610
24 күн бұрын
He’s not the hero they want…. He’s the one they need!
@whoinvitedthatguy6417
24 күн бұрын
My opinion of any version of batman depends entirely on how he's shown interacting with children.
@brantheman44
24 күн бұрын
W take
@KnoxCarbon
10 күн бұрын
Only the wicked should fear the Batman.
@randomkitty2555
25 күн бұрын
The biggest reason is because not everyone believes in hope. They believe in money, power, or the satisfaction of hurting people. Batman does understand his villians, like Poison Ivy and Doctor Freeze heck even Harley. What good is hope when corruption and greed is always there to rub it out.
@brantheman44
25 күн бұрын
It’s better to have it than not to have it. That hope is the reason Harley is where she is now, that hope is the reason none of the robins went bad.
@Silver_Spectre
24 күн бұрын
I’ve always enjoyed the balance of needing Batman who scares his scary and intimidating to his enemies but still remain a symbol of hope for the regular people
@Fatordegeek
23 күн бұрын
I Believe in something in-between Batman should SCARE CRIMINALS but people who aren't criminals should not be afraid of him but feel safer because he is around
@kouroshnahid4299
22 күн бұрын
that's my belief too. My ideal Batman is Scary and violent towards criminals, but still refuses to kill, and inspires hope in the innocent citizens of Gotham. Like you said, something in between. A Batman that can be violent, but still calm and comfort a scared child.
@Oblivion___
9 күн бұрын
@@kouroshnahid4299 Batman being violent doesn't work either, there's a reason he doesn't permanently cripple his villains, he's just efficient at fighting. Him purposefully and unnecessarily hurting his enemies is wrong, in all Batman stories this is treated as part of revenge and something he has to overcome, he needs to overcome in order to become a symbol for Gotham, something good. There's a story where he infiltrates Ra's hideout, he doesn't drop a single drop of blood from all the enemies he faced, he knocks out all the ninjas without dropping a single drop of blood.
@kouroshnahid4299
9 күн бұрын
@@Oblivion___ my version of Batman doesn't cripple people either. Sure, they suffer broken bones and missing teeth, but my Batman knows how to efficiently break bones without lasting damage.
@Oblivion___
9 күн бұрын
@@kouroshnahid4299 It's still a broken bone, Batman doesn't hurt people on this level because he believes in redemption, that people can change, he offers jobs to different criminals, these criminals won't change if their arm is broken and they can't work because Batman broke their bones. EDIT: Broken bones should be something saved only for threats at Deathstroke's level (bones will break in a fight like that), not him interrogating a radom guy on the street, breaking his arm and saying he'll come back.
@kouroshnahid4299
9 күн бұрын
@@Oblivion___ fair point. Maybe he can save it for the worst of the worst, like murderers who had chances to change, but refused to, and continued to hurt innocents. Definitely not breaking the bones of jaywalkers 🤣
@bloodoftheunicorns2621
9 күн бұрын
Batman was always meant to wield fear as a weapon. If you remove the bat family and the justice league, you’ll quickly see why he needs to use fear as a weapon. Gotham is a brutal city requires a hero to match it.
@dc7981
14 күн бұрын
Batman should never be an anti hero
@alexferrana3979
21 күн бұрын
Unpopular, but I agree with tou. I'm not saying that intimidation of villains is bad, but Batman also uses it against heroes and even against his own teammates, which looks like a bullying and narcissistic ego.
@MisterSandmanAU
22 күн бұрын
I think Batman Forever really nails the characterisation of Batman. He's flawed, yes, but he cares. For example, he straight up tells Dick if he couldve given his life to save his parents, he would've. He knows the pain and hates that another boy fell victim to that same pain. It's why he discourages him up until he has to take him on, because he realises that if he wants to dedicate himself to this life, he needs a mentor who cares.
@erikricardoboscolo4779
25 күн бұрын
The guy is a kid in the body of an adult who's still stuck in that alley, living and reliving the trauma of seeing them assassinated in front of him in a city corroded by crime. Every decision, plan and objective from Batman reminds the plans of a childish mind of a kind who'd destroy and kill if he had the power of powerful adult. EVERYTHING about Batman is about an uncured inner child. THAT'S HIS SUPERPOWER. The fact the fights this condition and the fact he recognizes there's also an ecosystem in Gotham where the Joker is the superpredator and he's only the control predator and if he kills the Joker, something his innner child expects him to do, he'll take the place of the superpredator and become the worse of criminals.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
24 күн бұрын
Kind of why i don't like Hollywood thinking Batman is just a dark and brooding lone wolf. There are so many stories that they could cover to show a more hopeful side to Batman. A lot of these stories are in the various animated shows. I wish Hollywood would look at multiple adaptations of the character instead of the same stories over and over again.
@skybite
15 күн бұрын
I seen Batman fans who tried to be Batman but somehow end up becoming Homelander.
@loudtaste1046
14 күн бұрын
What ?
@Samrski85
13 күн бұрын
huh?
@PinBBro
20 күн бұрын
imo batman should do both. If you're just some pure evil bastard or someone who has no sympathy or rationale to them then hell put on the terrifying bat monster persona to make sure you dont do it again, but if you're someone more sympathetic or reasonable he'll do literally everything in his power to try and help you, it's why the dcau version of bruce barring new batman adventures is my favorite version of him because rather than lighting people on fire with his batmobile or punching all of their teeth out he genuinely cares for them and always tries to approach situations with a more peaceful detective mindset, but isnt afraid to be terrifying with people who deserve it like the sewer king or scarecrow. I wish we got more pieces of modern batman media that wrote him like this gentle yet powerful crusader trying to prevent people from experiencing the same night he did in crime alley as opposed to just "WEHRES RACHAEL WHERES IS SHE TELL ME OR ILL RIP YOUR SPLEEN OUT OF YOUR BODY AGUUHGGG WHERE IS SHE RAAUUGGH I AM VENGEANCE"
@chelcentral6610
24 күн бұрын
"When the mugger or the thief stops to think twice - that is fear. That is what l am. That is why they hired assassins - because I am the reason why criminals breathe easier when the sun rises" he needs fear as a weapon with no powers and utilization of lethal force. Pattinson was good this take is poor.
@brantheman44
24 күн бұрын
1. Batman doesn’t use lethal force. 2. Arkham Batman is the worst possible iteration to have picked. He literally goes with my point more than yours. 3. I literally said Batman should be fearful but should always have an element of hope to him. What about this take is “poor”.
@puffpuffpassmako
10 күн бұрын
The best adaptation of what youre saying was Long Halloween. Batman stops a criminal and tries to save a kid, but the kid is so petrified of Batman that it makes everything worse. Bruce then goes back to the drawing board and switches the black on his costume for his classic 70s blue. That way innocents dont fear him as much but the effect on criminals remains the same
@callmejacob3234
23 күн бұрын
I believe Batman should be a balance of both he should scare criminals and inspire the people of Gotham. Batman has always been about striking fear into the hearts of criminals. But he's also very understanding of his villains and feels sorry for them that's why he doesn't kill. Batman's compassion and empathy are the best things about the character. When written properly Batman is one of the best heroes around. That's why DCAU Batman is my favorite adaptation of the character. Kevin Conroy will always be my Batman.
@Oblivion___
9 күн бұрын
Batman stops being scary the moment he appears on television together with other members of the League, the only fear he causes is that in a fight you don't know which corner he could come out of and punch you in the face, that's all, but in In all stories, the evolution of Batman is precisely to stop being scary and start inspiring people. The Batman, he starts off as the Boogeyman and ends the film in broad daylight rescuing people, showing everyone that he's just a man in a suit. DCAU, at the beginning he acts alone in the shadows, at the end he is with JL in the daylight giving an interview for the entire planet to see, he is a guy in a costume inspiring people. Batman is the Boogeyman and scary only at the beginning of his career, the character's evolution is precisely to get out of this, he is not a Boogeyman but a guy with a lot of money trying to do the right thing, fear is no longer a weapon, his weapon is to be 2 steps ahead of everyone, his weapon is to be extremely intelligent. The problem is that most people don't understand this, they want Batman Boogeyman forever, but you can't have him, otherwise the character won't evolve, he wouldn't even be able to join JL, his evolution is having a family, friends , coming out in the open and helping people, inspiring people, is what happens in all of the character's stories.
@journeymanX
22 күн бұрын
This is why i liked conroy's portrayal of batman,specially in the 90s series He was intimidating,a powerhouse in combat and investigating yet he empathized with the villains and was hopeful in their rehabilitation
@brantheman44
22 күн бұрын
Real. Rip to the GOAT
@x2c.diamundz
24 күн бұрын
I personally see Batman as a character parallel to Kratos now that has been "redeemed" after the events of Valhalla. While their stories are very different, there are also some interesting similarities. The main difference is Batman is more intelligent whereas Kratos is more about brute power but both are incredibly wise and calculated, especially when it comes to combat. Both are empathetic yet savage, they will do everything in their power to make sure they come out on top, even if it means making some extremely dark decisions. I feel as if younger Kratos is just Batman if he were to let his fear and vengeance rule him instead of his desire for justice.
@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps
25 күн бұрын
I feel part of the problem is that the script writers haven't introduced more "civilian" characters basically building a better Gotham on Batman's watch. We have Gordon of course and we might see him with a group of honest cops under him but others, like Vicki Vale or Dr Leslie Tompkins, might as well be visiting from Metropolis a few weeks to try and do some good in Gotham, that's how often we see them. In a sense, if the Joker or somebody targets, I dunno, the person in charge of the Gotham fire brigade that person could have been established as a decent person who would be a loss to a better city, like the case is with Gordon. It wouldn't really matter that much if The Bat-Man scares people tonight if when the sun has come up philanthropist Bruce Wayne, Gordon and like-minded can work for a Gotham that survives without a The Bat-Man.
@WhosBlrrd
24 күн бұрын
Great points!
@CodieneBeanBryant
25 күн бұрын
W video. We need more people on KZitem like you. Too many that discuss Batman on here don’t understand this.
@brantheman44
25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much man. Batman is one of my favorite characters in all of fiction and I want to discus him more
@indatube
23 күн бұрын
I agree. I hate when Batman is mischaracterized or shown to be so ignorant to the world. My Batman has traveled the world and learned these truths long ago, such as “criminals” being product of systems and their environment devoid of resources more than criminal =punching bag. Only punch when necessary (goons punching first). If he has to subdue someone mental ill he is equipped to do so, but it’s not needless violence from an unenlighted novice vigilante.
@spooneater9001
24 күн бұрын
What I've done....
@sahilhossain8204
16 күн бұрын
Lore of Batman Should NOT SCARE People momentum 100
@theraber7780
24 күн бұрын
Batman is not Superman, Batman should be kind and goodwilled while beating the fear into the criminals of Gotham.
@brantheman44
24 күн бұрын
So why can’t he do both?
@theraber7780
24 күн бұрын
@@brantheman44 because he never had hope, only burdens from his childhood. Also, Batman is edgy asf
@rox4945
23 күн бұрын
We have Superman for hope and honestly he’s better at representing it then Bruce he’s more hopeful and optimistic and positive then Bruce and has a brighter outlook on things then him.that’s why the dichotomy between them works well Bruce is less trusting less optimistic and more intimidating and calculative and cautious. just like how we have Batman for striking fear in criminals hearts And punishing the guilty We have Superman for hope and inspiration and justice . Bruce and Clark are like night and day pun intended but both are two sides of the same coin and compliment each others weakness and strengths.Bruce doesn’t always see the good in people nor a lot of things .Superman doesn’t always see that some people just can’t be trusted or saved and that’s why they make such a great team together to an extent their color schemes even shows a lot about their character too in this regard
@Oblivion___
9 күн бұрын
@@rox4945 If Batman wasn't optimistic he wouldn't even be Batman, he believes that even someone like the Joker can redeem himself, that's why he doesn't kill, that's why he doesn't cripple his villains forever, that's why he saves the villains even when they put themselves in a situation of death. "No one dies today" That's why tis speech: "I don't have to kill you, but I don't have to save you" It was criticized.
@Menoman235
25 күн бұрын
W video bro
@brantheman44
25 күн бұрын
Thank you bro. I’m gonna touch you🫶🏾
@Menoman235
25 күн бұрын
@@brantheman44 🗿
@roastterryroast839
25 күн бұрын
I don't think Batman should focus on Hope. That's not what his story is about. Thats one of the reasons I couldn't stand The Batman movie. That and that he was working side by side with the police when Batman is not supposed to work with the police, maybe only Gordon at times. Anyways, Batman's theme should focus on forgiveness or sacrifice or something else. Leave the hope to superman. He should show empathy and humanity at times but don't have him be a beacon for the city to look up to. He should be a warning.
@James-nr2hi
25 күн бұрын
1. What are you talking about? Batman has almost always worked with the police throughout his entire history. 2. Why can't Batman bring hope? Legitimately what is wrong with Batman bringing the people of Gotham hope and safety while being a terrifying monster to criminals? Why not?
@stevelandmartin-khan2430
25 күн бұрын
Bring hope to citizens that he protects and terrifying criminals don’t have to be mutually exclusive. He can do both. Picture a citizen that lives in the cesspit that is Gotham city. Every corner is dangerous. Don’t you like that it’s a little hopeful that there is a boogeyman out there every night trying to protect you? In a city of evil and corruption, there is one man staging a city wide war of crime. Don’t you think it’s hopeful to know that there is at least one good man looking out for you? Batman represents a man trying to make Gotham a better place. He’s arguably the definition of hope. Because what is hope if not looking to the future and believing it could be better?
@Oblivion___
9 күн бұрын
@@stevelandmartin-khan2430 I think we are confusing two ideas: In one case he is a monster, no one knows what he is, and the population's comfort and "hope" is that the monster is on their side. In the other he really is a positive force for the city, which is what happens at the end of The Batman, with Batman going out into the daylight to help people. But the moment that happens, the criminals' fear exists only because of his combat abilities, not because he is some unknown creature, and not because they are superstitious. EDIT: He can't do both, either he is the bogeyman or he is the city's hope, the only "hope" he brings to the city as a bogeyman, is the fact that the population knows that the Bogeyman is protecting them, nothing else. But in every Batman story this is reinforced as wrong, and something Batman needs to learn to overcome. This is seen for example in The Batman, he starts as the Boogeyman and ends up in daylight helping to save people from flooding. The moment Batman appears in the light of day, on television along with the rest of JL, he stops being the Boogeyman, the only fear he causes is the same fear that a criminal has of the police, the fear of being beaten or arrested, the fear of the unknown goes away, he is no longer the Boogeyman but a guy in a costume, this is the moment where he needs to be hope, inspire people, and in every story this is treated as an evolution of the character. DCAU, he goes from being alone and hiding in the darkness, to being part of the JL and appearing in the daylight with them, in front of the entire world, and the same in all universes with the JL. Batman is the Boogeyman only at the beginning of his career, the character's evolution is precisely to get out of this, he is not a Boogeyman, but a guy with a lot of money trying to do the right thing, fear is no longer a weapon, his weapon is be 2 steps ahead of everyone.
@mosesdahomie1863
24 күн бұрын
are you australian?
@brantheman44
24 күн бұрын
No. Why ,do I sound like one 😭😭
@mosesdahomie1863
24 күн бұрын
@@brantheman44 at the start i thought you did
@plasticweapon
19 күн бұрын
i always thought that was stupid. besides the fact that he's not scary (sorry, it's true) isn't he supposed to be a good guy?
@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286
18 күн бұрын
He is scary.
@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286
18 күн бұрын
He is scary.
@plasticweapon
4 күн бұрын
@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286 okay, "dark bat knight of darkness"
@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286
4 күн бұрын
@@plasticweapon Ok yapper
@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286
4 күн бұрын
@@plasticweapon Ok yapper
@jorefad130
24 күн бұрын
I dunno man, that seems like supermans job. Not batmans
@thesmilyguyguy9799
22 күн бұрын
:> D
@MutantsInDisguise
20 күн бұрын
Batman shouldn't comfort anyone. He does good, yes, but by no means is he either kind or altruistic just because he is kicking ass. He is only interested in crushing evil, motiviated by a childhood trauma. Batman should never be hope; he is vengeance, humanity at their very worst.
@brantheman44
20 күн бұрын
Bro does NOT understand Batman
@gavingraffried326
7 күн бұрын
You know there’s a whole quote for this, Alex Ross once said, “If you can’t imagine your version of Batman comforting a child then it’s a bad version of Batman.” And he’s right, despite what you might think, Batman does comfort children, he’s seen doing it multiple times in the comics and animated TV shows. If you can’t picture Batman comforting a child, then you’ve just drawn the punisher in a funny suit.
@Mohamadtheman
16 күн бұрын
You’re just wrong what you’re talking about is superman not batman
@brantheman44
16 күн бұрын
You either didn’t watch the video or are actually slow
@Mohamadtheman
16 күн бұрын
@@brantheman44 I didn’t watch the video and I don’t need to or intend to but if by “ people “ In your title you include criminals then you’re just wrong Batman is always supposed to scare criminals and fear is one of the biggest themes of Batman so I don’t care to watch a video when the title is just blatantly wrong not my fault that your title is wrong
@brantheman44
16 күн бұрын
@@Mohamadtheman how are you gonna-… ok nvm. Just be quiet lil bro.
@Mohamadtheman
16 күн бұрын
@@brantheman44 Shut up lil bro nobody tells me to be quite
@brantheman44
16 күн бұрын
@@Mohamadtheman LMAOOOOO (Nobody tells ME WHAT to do 👹)
@Reseptics
24 күн бұрын
the key thing with this aspect of the character is balance. you want him to inspire hope but also fear. both aspects are equally as important as the other. criminals should be shitting themselves when they see the bat signal. they should feel primal fear and think twice about what they're doing because they know batman is out there. but that light should also be a beacon of hope for the good people of gotham. it should remind them that despite how terrible the city is there is someone out there fighting to make it better and keep them safe. that's what batman is and why he needs to be both feared by criminals and looked up to as a symbol of hope by good people.
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