I once got into an argument with someone about how spider man could easily beat batman in a fight and he always responded with "Yeah but prep time"
@alexferrana3979
2 ай бұрын
That's the most coping answer from Batman's fans, especially when it's obvious that Batman is screwed.
@GmrGod10000
Ай бұрын
Spider-man loses tho
@katokianimation
27 күн бұрын
batman has a butler, he couldn't even prep his own sandwich. Batman preping for decades to beating (not killing) a real super hero if they got a nuke in his face recently and if they don't even want to fight Batmam then he could jump on them with a buddy succesfully. Witch isnt Batman being a genius, it just unfairness maxed out.
@teddybear8348
14 күн бұрын
@@GmrGod10000ok sure buddy
@CooperHolt3318
7 ай бұрын
They always give Batman prep time to beat an opponent but they never give the opponent prep time. So what they’re saying is, if you give Batman a huge advantage then he can beat other characters. That’s stupid. Imagine if you have Superman prep time, then it would be a fair fight and Batman loses 10 out of 10 times
@superjerryl7617
5 ай бұрын
Faxxx
@Therealtre
21 күн бұрын
Imagine if Superman actually wanted to kill Batman
@notryan9233
7 ай бұрын
“Give him prep time” is the same thing as “because I’m Batman” but they’re taking serious which is a mistake
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
They always give batman prep time to win a fight but apparently they can never give the opponent prep time either. Fights don't work with prep time alone you know they are wild and unpredictable shit happens that you don't plan for in a fight. Prep time is also a pretty vague argument in a fight overall.
@loselot6044
7 ай бұрын
I used to LOVE Batman comics, not because he was powerful, but because he was a human. Now he's more godly than Superman and that kinda killed the character for me. I miss the days where if Batman wasn't the first person taken out in the Justice League he'd be the one to slip away and accomplish a task or give those with godly powers the winning strategy without actively beating down the enemy, because he really shouldn't be a physical threat on the level of Superman
@entropygames2440
7 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it! Prep time, prep time, prep time. Overrated as all hell
@froakachu8077
7 ай бұрын
Exactly! It honestly ruins the character for me
@MSTUD10S
7 ай бұрын
Preptime is basically every Batman meatrider’s scapegoat. It’s a vague statement that doesn’t really mean anything. I’m a massive Batman fan, but some of the fans are unbearable, and it gets in my nerves.
@RyanG0899
7 ай бұрын
It's not vague when Batman has, on multiple occasions, explained how he beats every JL member. Did you forget that he's the world's greatest detective?
@MSTUD10S
7 ай бұрын
@RyanG0899 but just saying "prep time" doesn't really mean anything. How much time does he get? What info does he have? If your going to give prep time as an accuse for why batman wins against certain characters, you need to specify what your mean by that, cause technically, preprime could be four minutes. Also, if someone lukensuperman wanted to kill barmaj, he wouldbt give him a week to prepare. If j wanted to kill batman, I wouldn't give him time to plan. I would just jump his ass, and try to kill him.
@boredbitch666
3 ай бұрын
that's just a monkier people in gotham call him and anyone else outside of gotham is saying it mocjking him anyway john constantine and detevice chimp are better dectevies. bruce has failsafe all of the justice leauge but can't figure out a way to stop joker permanently without killing him. bro's overrated and overrhyped.
@Wutever917
7 ай бұрын
I love Batman, but man, he's just a human. Batman's always been one of the more grounded comic universes and Batman really reflects that. He's just a guy. That's all he needs to be in order to be a compelling character and a good hero in his own universe, but man, he can't fight some of these wacky, OP characters I see people saying he can. I once saw someone say he could beat Jesus. JESUS. I mean, yeah, it was probably a joke, but still.
@I-need-2-win
7 ай бұрын
Yup that's how I feel
@coreywilson7326
4 ай бұрын
Someone even thinks batman beats Dante from dmc
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I feel.
@demod2080
7 ай бұрын
The best examples of Batman is when he's caught with his pants down. Whenever Bruce sees something for the first time, he's usually caught lacking in some aspect. The 2000's The Batman show is the best showcase of the Prep Time having actual depth due to him having learned from his past encounters with these incredibly formidable Super Villains.
@loselot6044
7 ай бұрын
Yes, but he could still lose or struggle despite all of the prep he puts in against some of those villains and I think that makes him all the more interesting especially when compared to stories where Batman just wins because Batman (main example being Failsafe and The Batman Who Laughs not really being compelling stories/were wrapped in controversy over the character)
@demod2080
7 ай бұрын
@@loselot6044 I don't really consider TheBatWhoLaughs to be Batman. Mainly due to the origin is him turning into an all powerful Joker analogue, and him not being able to be taken seriously with how thick his plot armor was in his stories.
@loselot6044
7 ай бұрын
@@demod2080 That's fair, but the Batman Who Laughs is a great example of what happens when the prep-time argument goes too far in the comics since he was somehow able to take down a version of Bruce with Doctor Manhattan's powers as well as the whole league
@tgs5725
7 ай бұрын
Huge respect for playing Beneath the Mask in the background
@angel-zd1mk
7 ай бұрын
tbh i wish ppl just talked abt batman fighting and planning in the moment, hes super crafty and the prep time talk just kinda makes him boring
@ThatArkhamGore
7 ай бұрын
it’s certainly annoying, like can batman beat MOST people in fiction, yeah, but a lot of times he can’t
@Red_Spidey
7 ай бұрын
This is why i prefer a younger Batman ,less gary stu and still learning to do better, way more story to tell than the Prepman.
@I-need-2-win
7 ай бұрын
Agreed lol. He's one of the most overrated characters. He ain't a superhuman or anything. He literally loses to like 99% of characters people put him up against and they'll say he still wins which is ridiculously stupid. He's become a meme at this point where it no longer makes him compelling. I like Batman i just hate the fanbase, then people say Wesker and Kratos are overrated when there's Liu Kang and Batman lol. EDIT: Kratos is overrated too😭
@coreywilson7326
4 ай бұрын
Wdym Liu Kang
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Theonewhoricoshots
3 ай бұрын
@@coreywilson7326people think lui kang is multiversal and some even think he can solo Goku because he is a god and because of that blackhole fatality
@coreywilson7326
3 ай бұрын
@@Theonewhoricoshots yes because he is lol and he can be scale higher
@Theonewhoricoshots
3 ай бұрын
@@coreywilson7326 okay then I am not attacking or anything but tell me how.
@arkfounder7056
7 ай бұрын
As someone who has been reading the Golden Age Batman stories, I'm pretty sure it's the DCAU's fault for Batman's prep being so overplayed.
@NMbones98
7 ай бұрын
Bro why do you think people believe he can beat many characters with prep it's because he literally has beaten people with prep if you know you know c'mon
@serverllegion6184
7 ай бұрын
Meanwhile there’s the terrarian in their journey from building a house To fighting a army that can move planets trough sheer powers to a cosmic being that exist in a void beyond space time + the mods journey from start to end game The diference is that the terrarian may look like any ordinary human but it’s not The so repeated peak human it’s Demi-god to something greater than a god If there was a random encounter between a pre hard mode terrarian with bettle armor and batman the smack down that’s about to occur will be registered in history
@Undertale4ife
Ай бұрын
“Batman would never fall into the hands of brainiac” Lego Batman 3: beyond Gotham:
@Clowntown97
7 ай бұрын
Nah, but he wins with prep time bro.
@hahahahaehhehehehehe
7 ай бұрын
Now, this is just my opinion, but I think most people(including me) are so passionate about Batman because he is essential a man among God's. People want to believe we can go so far if we only try. Like, where's the hope in comics if it's just a bunch of aliens and powerful gear that protect humanity. People want to be able to be more powerful than they are. That's the inspiring part. There is all a Batman in us if we try. No one wants to believe our only hope against things more powerful than us are aliens crash landing here as the last of their kind. No. People want to believe that they can be that hope. Que Batman. Again, just my opinion.
@warlord8106
7 ай бұрын
if all your going to do is devalue superman and the others to just being a really powerful aliens and gods and not make an effort to see the plethora of depth beyond that feable mentality, then thats all on you. Also, if thats the case, then batman comes off as a cheap piece of anti superhuman propoganda power fantasy who should be on the league or apart of any superhero teams at all. The point of superhumans are to be aspirational representations of humanity, individuals with the exact same thoughts, feelings and emotions as ourselves, given power beyond what a normal individual would possess and consistently having their will, character and humanity challenged on how best to wield that kind of power. Superman was initially designed to serve the role of providing a subversion to the troupe of "power corrupts" . I really don't know how people can honestly say that Superman is unrelatable when compared to Batman. How many people are ultra well-trained billionaires who have suffered a traumatic event in there childhood that results in them going on this lifelong futile crusade to fight crime? Probably not many. But how many people are there who were raised by loving people who happen to not be their birth parents? How many people were raised in a rural environment? How many people feel like outsiders? How many people go to office jobs every day? How many people have a crush on someone at their work? How many people try their best every day to be the best person they can be, and help out whenever they can? Probably a lot more than you expect. The myth that Superman is unrelatable comes from writers who aren't skilled enough or mature enough to understand than potential storytelling there is with the superman character. While we're discussing power levels, I'd like to mention how overpowered Batman is as a character, especially nowadays. Every writer in the past 20 years had written batman to be basically the smartest character in the DC universe and use this as an excuse to get him out of any situation. I like that batman always plans ahead but this has been taken to an insane degree where he has contingency plans for literally every outcome imaginable. This automatically makes him uninteresting because the audience knows that he'll get out of any situation he's in. It's the cliché that 10 year old like to throw out, that "Batman + prep time is unstoppable". I'm fairly certain that Batman has defeated Darkseid more times than Supes has at this point. But Superman, eventhough he has amazing powers, he's not a hyper-intelligent genius detective with billions of dollars at his disposal. He's basically just a normal dude in every way except that he has the best superpowers. That may make big epic superhero battles uninteresting, but that shouldn't be what Supermans about. He should be about telling a mature and introspective story that inspires you, not a boring punching contest. That is main problem with bad superman stories, the writers focus to much on how incredible his powers are rather than how incredible his morals, optimsim, and inner struggles are. What makes a character relatable is subjective. You list all these incredible godlike things Superman can do. That doesn't take away from who he is at heart though. A humble Kansas farmboy who because of his loving parents upbringing. Taught him to be the best man he could be. Even if he didn't have superpowers he would still risk life and limb to save someone he saw in danger. He would still try and talk a little girl out of suicide. And would still fight for justice in whichever mortal way he sees fit. Idk about you but to me. That's more relatable and inspiring than anything about Batman. Yes, Superman was born with powers, but he grew up as a middle-class citizen who is also technically an immigrant. He lives the average joe life style when he isn't Superman. He went to public school, had friends, played sports, etc. He has an actual social life, works a 9-5 job and he lives in an apartment with a loving wife and son. That alone resonates with far more people than you realize Batman on the other hand was born and grew up as the privileged 1%. He isn't an immigrant, he's a super rich white male who was born into his wealth. He has no social life, was raised by private tutors and excels at everything ever, runs a global industry that he doesn't have to show up to work for and lives in his big ol' mansion. Unless you were born wealthy and genetically primed to do anything, you aren't relating to Batman. The only thing there is to relate to is on an extremely superficial level in that he's human but even that is in question because he's clearly doing things that are beyond human capacity, even by world record standards. Batman, with or without the cowl, never stops being larger than life and fantastical, making him ironically far less down to Earth than Superman. Superman didn't need to be traumatically affected to realise that there is a problem in the world thats needs to be fixed, he chooses to help others because he wants to, because he likes helping people. Something that he got encouragement from his parents while growing up in a small town. Superman could easily force the world do his bidding and bring governments and nations to their knees, but instead chooses to be a hero and protect a world that isn't even his own and wants to live besides humanity despite not being one himself. He doesn't have to adopt the Clark Kent identity, but does so because he wants to be more attached to his human side because of the love he was given to by his human parents and his overall love for humanity. That to me, ironically enough, is more human than most human superheros including Batman and is the reasons why Superman is my favorite superhero. Finally, I find Superman better because he is exactly what he is supposed to be, the SUPERman. He is supposed to be powerful, he is supposed to be able to save the day, he was created for that purpose. Batman is supposed to be the worlds greatest detective, yet he can stand against god like beings, create advanced AI, possibly create life and somehow even sneak past Superman who can hear and see from crazy distances. Superman is a super powered alien, I have no trouble accepting that he is really powerful, Batman is a human, he shouldn't be able to defeat the entire Justice League in one swell swoop. Superman is powerful, but he isn't the strongest DC character, not even close, Batman isn't powerful, but people make him powerful to where he can do the impossible and plan for everything, effectively making it to where he can beat some of the strongest heroes, even Superman, I thought you hated Superman for being op. I: I don't hate Superman for being really strong, he is supposed to. That is like hating Goku because he's an amazing fighter, he is supposed to be an amazing fighter, Batman is supposed to be an amazing detective and Flash is supposed to be really frigging fast. Why hate a character for what they are supposed to be but glorify a character who is way beyond what he actually should be? Also, Superman can be defeated, isn't the strongest, has character flaws and doesn't have all the powers, stop with the misconceptions people. Superman in the end of they day is a good hearted person, decent man, and a true hero that wants nothing more but to protect the world, and I will never understand why he gets so much flack.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
@@warlord8106 EXACTLY!!
@blaxpoitation8528
Ай бұрын
@warlord8106 Bro, you broke this down perfectly!! The mouth frothing Batman fans have no clue. And the writers have ruined the character. I do find Superman more relatable than Batman, because of what he represents. For the past 20 yrs +, the DC writers and editorials have wanked and buffed Batman so much that he's not even human anymore. It ruined him. And that's one of the reasons i can't rock with Batman anymore. They also have to make everyone around him look dumb, incompetent or just in awe of his awesomeness. It's annoying and tiresome.
@nuke-_-trigerman7948
7 ай бұрын
Wymmm super Man can't even beat plastic man
@813loonatic
7 ай бұрын
if batman is not an effective hero nether is ANY OTHER heroes. how often does doc ock escape and spider-man has to catch him again
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
Apparently batman's literally only effective against other heroes that's it he does nothing of significance for his city like at all.
@kel-A-3414
7 ай бұрын
Somebody had to say it!!😑 But bro wdym, doctor strange will kill superman lmao. Any day
@King_QM23
7 ай бұрын
Hey ur the one agreeing with him saying Batman overrated I don’t see how ur not agreeing with him saying doctor strange would kill Superman. Dont even understand Batman character and Im not even that big into Batman ima Spider-Man geek. He said brainiac cant capture Batman and I don’t disagree Batman can most definitely get captured. The thing that can’t be done is unless u hard wire his brain manually this version of Batman is very resistant to mind control and he got prep time but he mainly adapts or uses common sense. Batman would’ve never had got captured is because Batman wouldn’t have never went on the ship but ofc they did cuz plot for story. Had he went on the ship he would’ve been trying to find evidence of anything threatening like weapons or really any kind of machines. Third it’s out of Batman character to be doing this to just blindly go into something such as that and not have some kinda plan or watever. It just Batman would’ve had never got captured not Arkham Batman cuz he never would’ve went on the ship in the first place or if so with - plan but it being suicide squad kill the Arkham verse they did that and 10x more stupid shit like just watch what you look at and remember the Arkham series is suppose to be a grounded and more realistic take on Batman so his entire world around him should be as well it isn’t a cartoon video game so just watch the story and like an hour in u can find like 30 to 40 things within an hour that just doesn’t make sense
@kel-A-3414
7 ай бұрын
@@King_QM23 bro doctor strange uses magic. And had the ability to summon things that can eat universes 💀. Of course he's not losing to superman. And yes Batman is overrated. Only reason superman loses to him is because of plot. There's no realistic way Batman survives if Superman wakes up one day and decides to off him for no reason. Doctor strange on the other hand constantly has a magical eye that sees threats, a magical cloak, a magical shield around him and his abode, all weaknesses of superman. So no superman is not beating doctor strange lol
@nont18411
2 ай бұрын
All those prep time and yet Batman is still not powerful enough to stop the Joker once and for all
@amccall88
7 ай бұрын
Batman with prep time IS the greatest hero of all time though.... Sorry you disagree
@RyanGP1203_MemeLord
7 ай бұрын
Definitely not Batman's ass
@seventycross0yt175
4 ай бұрын
No
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
Hell the fuck no lol. It makes him boring asf.
@alexferrana3979
2 ай бұрын
Disagree. It's basically an excuse for plot armor.
@SupperBroth
2 ай бұрын
Batman has said himself even with all the prep time in the world most of The Justice League easily would destroy him and his prep time fails most of the time
@Bruce_Wayne841
7 ай бұрын
Batman with prep literally beat the jl in Batman endgame 💀
@M4Z3D
7 ай бұрын
He's the goddamn batman. He can do anything with goddamn prep-time.
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
Ай бұрын
Except figure out how to stop the Joker without killing him.
@Justin-rd7ec
7 ай бұрын
Bro you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about. You should delete this lmao
@mncrft3386
7 ай бұрын
no you're just a d rider
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
And you just proved his point you Batman fans are annoying
@RyanG0899
7 ай бұрын
This is exactly what someone who has absolutely no knowledge of Batman would say. As soon as you said Batman wasnt effective I knew youve never touched a Batman comic in your life
@urmomhouse8409linconroadmf
7 ай бұрын
ong
@vprometheussv8590
7 ай бұрын
And you just proved his point you Batman fans are annoying
@Theonewhoricoshots
3 ай бұрын
He literally mentions an issue from a comic in the video. That's for A And for B: The comic writers be also glazing that powerless furry. Just accept it bro your goat is a wonder woman victim hell I maybe exaggerating it with this take and I won't blame you if you call me out on it but your goat is also a victim of half of anime I don't remember batman destroying a universe.
@LuisSanchez-by7mh
7 ай бұрын
Most of the time Batman just adapts to the situation. Sure in some instances he does make a plan and he does prepare but sometimes his plan don’t go according to plan and he adjust and adapts to his situation and the environment he finds himself in. I like Batman when he can use both his brain and his brawn.
@noneedtoknow-yv2tu
4 ай бұрын
He shouldn't be surviving in space without an space suit it's dumb and overpowered.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu exactly.
@tylerhorton5343
7 ай бұрын
I can buy batman losing to Braniac. I can't buy him losing to the suicide squad. Not the same batman that fought half of his villain catalog in a single night. It would maybe be different if it wasn't the arkham batman
@rileyowen7245
7 ай бұрын
Doctor Doom with prep> spider man with prep> batman with prep
@fallingdevilglazer
5 ай бұрын
Batman with prep time is simply Peak human with weapons
@isaithebest9367
7 ай бұрын
Kryptonite actualy destroys Superman and the game acknowledges that he shouldn’t have survived what Wonder Woman did to him
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
It doesn't lol not anymore at least he's built an immunity to it.
@okand6770
7 ай бұрын
Prep time doesn't exist
@Justin-rd7ec
7 ай бұрын
Yeah it does lol
@nafanwittree
7 ай бұрын
Bro really said being prepared for something is a myth. Are you stupid? Yes it’s a r/batmanArkham joke don’t ask/point it out.
@sauceboss9610
7 ай бұрын
Batman with prep time is basically the fans saying "does said character have an exploitable weakness? and could a man with near infinite money learn and impliment said weakness into a way of beating said character?" And Superman is the worst example you could pull because everyone knows Supermans weakness at this point saying a character has a kryptonite is more or less saying a character has a weeakness
@Realsupergingerman
7 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure 99% people said batman with prep time are just troll just to see the reaction of the comment section.
@Truffle73
7 ай бұрын
I agree with you.. BUT, Arkhamverse Batman is literally him, in the canon he has taken out hundreds, and toppled an army in one night
@LAGator-qu7tc
7 ай бұрын
So what ? Thats not really impressive anymore for a superhero. You just feel so strongly about cause you played as him in Arkham
@coreywilson7326
4 ай бұрын
Ok?
@SupperBroth
2 ай бұрын
And even then in Arkham knight he was only taking down little portion at a time not all at once
@dankfhc8387
7 ай бұрын
its how he is written in the comics, he's beaten the justice league lol, went from black lantern to white lantern and beat the knightfall protocol with a broken back against someone in a highly advance suit. Batman with prep time is no joke, even in the game he overcame a city wide plague in under 24 hrs yet they killed him off to a headshot. Batman has also beat Darkseid on multiple occasions so your a goober for that this is just an awful take for views
@coreywilson7326
4 ай бұрын
He's never beat Darkseid
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
He's never beaten darkseid bro. The most he did was drive him back to apocalypse with help.
@MagicMouseProductions
5 ай бұрын
Batman with prep isnt oberrated hes just actually overpowered
@coreywilson7326
4 ай бұрын
No
@GRAHHHChariot
7 ай бұрын
not a fan of this take tbh, I genuinely think that Batman’s intellect and “prep time” is his power, comic wise he is considered one of the smartest beings of all time, and Arkham Batman is also super intelligent, I genuinely think Batman and Arkham Batman could genuinely beat most villains with time or if he has intelligence to work off of, Batman can’t beat like Bloodlusted superman without any preparation, but genuinely if he knows the person and he has the intelligence then he’s winning fr 💯 😊
@coreywilson7326
4 ай бұрын
Not really 😊
@boredbitch666
4 ай бұрын
the whole "batman with prep time can do anything" bullshit i hate it. what makes batman interesting is he doesn't have all the answers and is flawed. "why do we fall sir? so we can learn to pick ourselves back up. that's batman. not "lol with prep time you can do anything".
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