Used to love this, saw them on stage once with my parents.
@ysthafellgynghori8423
2 жыл бұрын
Last year, Netflix yanked 'Little Britain', 'The Mighty Boosh' and 'The League Of Gentlemen' off the air following complaints about the racist content. So let's not get carried away in a tidal wave of self-righteous contempt for the past.
@misakiyoshida
2 жыл бұрын
If you're cIaiming that The Mighty Boosh is as blatantly racist at this, you're mistaken. Those guys just sang about soup and shit
@teishahickman2108
Жыл бұрын
@@misakiyoshida Racist is racist. There aren't levels to it.
@RonSill1986
Жыл бұрын
League of gentlemen is on prime video along with their spin off if you want to watch it again. I watched it the other day what a laugh. I miss that humour.
@OofusTwillip
6 жыл бұрын
An episode of "The Goodies" satirized this show, with a gag that proposed solving the racist nature of the B&W Minstrels by adding other colours: Pink & White, Green & White, Purple & White...
@yell50
2 жыл бұрын
Yes green face would been a good idea the green and white minstrel show would not offend anyone then the show could go on and could be still popular even today.
@Stibly
2 жыл бұрын
@@yell50 It would offend the aliens
@paulaharrisbaca4851
4 жыл бұрын
The Golliwog was a beloved character that English children often had in the nursery. You look through A.A. Milne's "When We Very Young" and "Now We are Six" and the Golliwog was one of the little toys you saw hanging around. I was always surprised.
@Ballinalower
2 жыл бұрын
More than 75 years ago when I was a little boy the Golliwog and the Teddy Bear were the only dolls it was acceptable for a boy to play with. And Teddy Bears were thought rather babyish. I carried my Golliwog everywhere and he got a lot of hugs and was a big comfort in the air raid shelter. My other toys were mostly toy soldiers and toy guns. Definitely not for hugging. I was sometimes read my bedtime story and tucked in by a black Commonwealth army officer who stayed with us. I don't remember him ever being offended by my Golliwog. He later became Prime Minister of his country incidentally. At the time my dad was his commanding officer.
@Ballinalower
2 жыл бұрын
And I just remembered, one day at my request my dad and the black officer painted the faces of some of my toy soldiers black.
@deborah3476
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ballinalower lies.
@Obs23456
2 жыл бұрын
@@deborah3476 no it isn’t
@teishahickman2108
Жыл бұрын
@@Ballinalower It doesn't matter that your family's Black Friend didn't seem offended. Do you think he would tell a child during that time he hated their toy? Geez...So oblivious it's insane.
@QualicSelf
3 жыл бұрын
“A cautionary tale”. “You can never what’s going to happen in 20 years time. What are we doing today that in 20 years time will seem beyond the pale”. Famous last words
@hecateswolf6007
2 жыл бұрын
You're bloody right there man
@tristanbruns5968
2 жыл бұрын
Blackface was racist n the 19th century. These people should have known better.
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
Sure buddy. 🤣
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
In 20 years time? Probably Drag Race for appropriating 'womanface'. LOL
@Ballinalower
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile over on ITV the main newscaster was the black Trevor Macdonald and their main children's drama series The Tomorrow People had the world's first black superhero. While back at the BBC women employees were still forbidden to wear trousers.
@hebneh
10 ай бұрын
I saw this when I visited Britain in 1976 and was astounded that such a bizarre racist relic was being actively produced for national showings. In the USA by then, such a thing would've been totally unacceptable. It was even weirder that only the men were in blackface while the gals were presented in their caucasian prettiness.
@gotham61
2 жыл бұрын
As a young kid in England in the late 60s and early 70s, even without understanding the racist undertones, I never watched the show because even back then I thought it was unbearably anachronistic and cheesy. Top of the Pops was much more entertaining.
@teishahickman2108
Жыл бұрын
And Top of the Pops just had the pedophiliac host.
@clownnworldorder
Жыл бұрын
Top of the totps was hosted by a paedophile yet these minstrels were to my knowledge never involved in anything as depraved. But I guess it's ok because at least the paedophile hosting totps "wasn't racist"
@nighthiker8872
3 жыл бұрын
Black face was not racist in England but copy as a musical art. Famously and imitated. The Beatles imitated music from America. America imitated the Beatles. To England black face was a new colorful sound, a smooth sound.
@marykatherinegoode2773
2 жыл бұрын
THE ENTIRE POINT OF MINSTREL SHOWS WAS TO MAKE FUN OF BLACK PEOPLE. IT HAD NO REDEEMING QUALITIES. ALL THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED WAS IMITATING A PERFORMANCE INTENDED TO HUMILIATE AND EXPLOIT AN ENTIRE PEOPLE. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS MADNESS.
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
*The entire point of the Minstrel show was to celebrate the song and dance of their culture.* REALITY.
@marykatherinegoode2773
2 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta Then explain to me the protests against the practice in the US Civil Rights Movement; explain the big fat revolt against the practice. Be bold enough to tell me there is no racism in it and racism against blacks is America's problem, yet British people on this page are all too eager to accept a potent old anti-black weapon. Tell me why white US actors and entertainers don't do this anymore, because the REAL answer is it is a) immoral and horrifying to most of them, b) they don't want to be a social pariah and lose their careers and c) they don't want angry mobs beating the shit out of them. It isn't much of a celebration when only one side is laughing. Minstrel shows evolved in the 19th century, when black folks were still *SLAVES*. It made fun of the way they talked, how dark their skin was, and how big and thick their lips were. Additionally, it always portrayed them as buffoons. Pickaninnies were a stock character. So was the feckless and dumb fop who gambled all his money away and was sex crazed. Or the Jezebel. None of this was true. The typical black man was a slave, and once Lincoln was dead, all hell broke loose. The future for a black slave would most likely have been as a broke sharecropper and a second class citizen. It would take his grandsons and great-grandsons to finally put it right....and today, that continues. The only reason the songs have any black roots was because if you think music publishers would have accepted anything else, you are crazy. Their own racism rejected the more normal fare, like love songs, and there is a LONG history of white musicians stealing black music or not giving them any credit. When minstrel shows were active, it was one of the few ways a black man could make any money in music. The highbrow stuff for the rich would have been the same as Europe before 1900. The traveling dance hall stuff for the poor, however, not only would have featured this sort of crap, but spread stereotypes that fueled prejudice against blacks and made it just that much worse getting employment after 1865. (Nobody was going to hire an ex-slave even if he was a highly skilled plantation blacksmith with 15 years experience once the traveling revue had been through town. Besides, in places like California, superstitious and backwards Chinese laborers with braids that went down to their buttcracks were more willing to do anything for a buck, more "docile", and cheap and easy replacements when they would get blown up blasting through rocks. They were more likely to believe in Gold Mountain. How fortunate /s.) You want the real culture?-Eat dishes like jambalaya, Charleston Red Rice, Virginia peanut soup, sweet potato pie, Joe Frogger cookies. (BBC is wrong: jambalaya has as many roots in West African cooking as it does in paella.) Listen to "His Eye is On the Sparrow" or "God Down Moses"; Call and respond with "Balm in Gilead" or "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" in church. Listen to "Tiger Rag", Listen to "In the Pines" by Leadbelly, look at paintings by Henry Ossawa Tanner. Listen to Jimmy Hendrix whale on that guitar or "Dear Mama" by Tupac. Read about Rev. George Lee, who predated MLK by many years and died a martyr, and listen to Neil Degrasse Tyson whup the ass of Oxford dons. Celebrate and live their progress. Do ANYTHING but admire this abortion of justice.
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
The US Bill of Rights is irrelevant to this British song and dance troupe on British television. There's no need to be 'bold' to tell you there's no prejudice from this troupe, the show malice, scorn or contempt for black people or black culture, quite the opposite in fact in the form of celebration. The talent pool of black performers in the UK was next to zero during the 1950s-1970s. Those of whom just stepped off the boat from the Caribbean would have had to have joined the already long queue of white people also trying to get a their foot in the door into television showbusiness. It was their offspring born in the UK that eventually made it into television as the country began to get more and more diverse. Lenny Henry being a prime example. It must have been hard for those talented black performers having to take alternative jobs in order to make a living knowing where their heart lay but at least those children that followed in their parent's footsteps had the chance to make the break. I suppose it's all about historical context which dictates the facts.
@marykatherinegoode2773
2 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta Clearly you have not even read the Bill of Rights, since nothing I have written pertains to it. Further, I am talking about civil rights, something EVERY MAN is entitled to. And I just proved that even in its own homeland, it was *NOT* seen as a celebration of black culture nor was it EVER intended to be so. Effectively, your country aped the same cruel racism and abuse it so criticizes the US for, not to mention the use of the USA as a whipping boy to deflect from its own sins. In fact, I dare you-get on a plane. Start doing a little two step with your face blacked up in the middle of Atlanta. See where it gets you. _ The talent pool of black performers in the UK was next to zero during the 1950s-1970s_ Most of the jobs open to black Britons were the ones that white Britons didn't want to do, especially considering several cities were piles of rubble. That's first off. Second, Caribbean culture≠ American culture. American music had made inroads into the UK since at least 1910, and that was what was popular. The same phenomenon happened with film as well. Caribbean music is more rhythmic and heavy on drums and syncopation. It does not even use the same instruments. The talent was there, the interest was not, and more tellingly whites always got first priority even AFTER the first generation. That being said, long before Windrush, box office figures are pretty clear that Britons were fine with watching Bugs Bunny wear blackface or Bosko or the dozens of hideously racist movies that the USA churned out. They even gave little golly dolls to their kids. Only a racist attitude towards blacks already EXISTING in Britain would have made those profits possible, and when a large chunk of the Empire's wealth at the time sat on the shoulders of subjugated Africans, wow, I can't even fathom how many lies you have to tell yourself just to keep functioning. And what a warm welcome the boat people must have gotten-cleaning out the toilet of some troll who just "could not find good help these days" and watching little Nigel get Little Black Sambo read to him at night....or an English edition of the Adventures of Tintin, showing blacks as inferior...the Babar books...chocolates from pa Paah literally called têtes de negre, literally translated as "n*** heads..." After all, their grandsons have been so good to the current crop of black Britons that have to seek work in LA because they can't get any in London even with a larger pool of blacks than in the 1960s. The fact that you are using the same arguments that a lot of pieces of shit in America once used to defend their "art" does not become you either. Black Britons and any person of color should have the right to object to such portrayals, since they should have a say in culture and not have it dictated to them.
@richardsharpe2966
5 жыл бұрын
It was a show that both my Grandad's loved
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
Richard, mine too and both were black.
@David.lovesU
4 жыл бұрын
@@beastmode8670 you're hate is no different than the klan
@beastmode8670
4 жыл бұрын
@@David.lovesU its funny how it's just white people who enjoys this
@DisconnectedRoamer
4 жыл бұрын
@@beastmode8670 it wasn't only white people that enjoyed it
@crackerscheese33
2 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta So are mine and they enjoyed it too.
@dirkbruere
4 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories of Sunday nights of my youth. Me doing homework in a panic, Mum doing the ironing and Dad listening to this. I think I am getting PTSD flashbacks...
@SuperFerdie1965
3 жыл бұрын
Thought it was Saturday nights?
@dirkbruere
3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperFerdie1965 You are correct. I was remembereing "Sing Something Simple" on the radio
@SuperFerdie1965
3 жыл бұрын
@@dirkbruere Yes, although I could never understand why my dad liked that programme, the music always sounded very mournful to me! To each, his own I suppose!
@dirkbruere
3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperFerdie1965 Chatanooga Choochoo still haunts me!
@SuperFerdie1965
3 жыл бұрын
@@dirkbruere Yes but prior to that, I used to enjoy Family Favourites and the Clitheroe Kid, starring the kid himself! I went years thinking he was a boy and couldn't believe my grandma when she assured me he was a man born during World War One!
@rob832
4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating history, thank you. What happened, happened. One day you and I shall also be so judged by people not yet born who cannot understand why we do what we do now with a clear conscience.
@tulegit1
2 жыл бұрын
Trust me we understand, it was because you are not smart. It’s not hard to laugh at a guy in blackface when you are a giggling bafoon laughing at anything that moves.
@Tomtonbuster
7 жыл бұрын
Not all black people were in favour of dropping the make-up. I recall a group of African students here in Scotland in the late 60s - early 70s who were very angry about the criticisms of the black make-up. We had all travelled as a group to see the Black & White minstrels in Aberdeen because they were keen fans. Caricature of other racial/ethnic groups was common in the era as well - whether Scots, Irish, Mexican, Cockney, etc.
@tiathompson6674
6 жыл бұрын
Shelia, just because it was so called popular, does not mean that it was ever right. And what I find really ironic is men in black face, dancing with white women, when a black man in America during the time this shows were being done, could be LYNCHED for even looking a white woman in the face, let alone touching her or standing near her.
@FiiDeLLaCaShFLoW
6 жыл бұрын
Tia Thompson she never said it was right.
@arianrhodhyde7482
6 жыл бұрын
are cockneys an ethnic group? and also it's possible someone from Africa might have different feelings about it since they're from a different, majority black society
@soulscanner66
5 жыл бұрын
@Emil Jansson The firebombing of Dresden was an awful thing too.
@we-qs2vd
4 жыл бұрын
Sheila .MacIsaac you’re an idiot.
@annoldham3018
5 жыл бұрын
After the show was pulled off the BBC in 1978, the stage show continued until as late as 1990! Can you believe it?
@gdep3611
4 жыл бұрын
Ann Oldham, I’m surprised it’s not still running! There is an insatiable appetite for Black suffering and degradation.
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
As it was a popular entertainment show, yes, I can believe it.
@DisconnectedRoamer
4 жыл бұрын
should still be on, i bet white people wouldn't complain if black artists painted their face white. (e.g. White Chicks)
@Joe-ot5bo
2 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta The unbelievable part is that being how racist it was, how long it actually lasted you fucking bellend.
@clownnworldorder
Жыл бұрын
YesI can believe that, it was awesome
@philipdefibaugh5683
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the B and W Minstrel Show brought over to the U.S. since Minstrel were still done here in the U.S. back in the 60's?
@kayleigh1991
5 жыл бұрын
They should have just continued the show without the blackface.
@lorireeve4031
8 ай бұрын
they always scared me as a child
@brianleslie19
2 жыл бұрын
0:38 that’s my Grandfather
@icemachine79
6 жыл бұрын
I wish Lawrence Welk had done _his_ show in blackface. We might've been spared those endless repeats on American PBS stations every weekend for decades.
@David.lovesU
4 жыл бұрын
Ha... you remember that lol my grandmother always made us watch that
@ohmeowzer1
4 жыл бұрын
icemachine79 I love Lawrence welk...he was awesome
@jarneyfs1
Жыл бұрын
These are the intellectual ones who literally think as they behave.
@FordTransitvan
2 жыл бұрын
Some lovely performances in there
@kevinfriend3504
6 жыл бұрын
I love it! DVD's available???
@David.lovesU
4 жыл бұрын
The black guy talking sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger when I close my eyes and listen
@clownnworldorder
Жыл бұрын
That song at 16:00 is awesome
@fortuner123
6 жыл бұрын
As a kid I watched with my parents and enjoyed it, the music, the lovely tunes and voices. I never thought anything bad at all. I cannot see any problem
@FiiDeLLaCaShFLoW
6 жыл бұрын
Anti-theist of course. Because you grew up watching these shows and was raised to "not see a problem". Thanks for being honest and admitting your ignorance towards it. Anyone in your shoes would have the same mentality. I wish ignorance didn't exist, but who am i, right? I wish you would've asked "why is this a problem" because that would've shown some sort of attempt to be educated on something you don't understand or show some form of empathy, however, you just said you don't see the problem, and because you don't see it, there isn't a problem. That, my friend, is real the problem... Food for thought.
@ZenGardenOzone
6 жыл бұрын
There is no problem with them. People nowadays get offended too easily. Whether it's a black person wearing white face or a white person wearing black face, these shows were for pure entertainment.
@FiiDeLLaCaShFLoW
6 жыл бұрын
Royce Bracket for who?
@ZenGardenOzone
6 жыл бұрын
For common folk, blacks or whites, I know plenty of black people who enjoyed these types of shows
@FiiDeLLaCaShFLoW
6 жыл бұрын
Royce Bracket well of coarse black people at this time period enjoyed these shows lol...what other entertainment was there at that time, let alone ANYTHING that involved black people? What black person had any power to challenge anything at that time? Of coarse they HAD to like it, or risk being harrassed and killed for having an opinion about anything! People "now-a-days" aren't sensitive ...black people were being KILLED for even THINKING about anything close to what I'm saying to you. Or, did you forget that? When you were raised in a time period where everyone perceived blacks as inferior, lazy, idiots, only good for slavery and raping white women, it's common sense to not know any better...and it is ALSO common sense for majorities raised in that time period ( or raised by family from that time period) to not see a problem, because they weren't raised to know what the problem is...
@stevemurray4854
3 жыл бұрын
YOUR MY WIFE NOW......
@williamross2567
5 жыл бұрын
"Worked as a mud pack"
@mikenelson1009
7 жыл бұрын
15.45 to 16.25 Unbelievable.
@laurenceash
6 жыл бұрын
Mike Nelson: This part is not a clip the minstrel show, it's a clip of 'Not the Nine o'clock News' a British satire program which is here satirising the minstrels.
@mikenelson1009
6 жыл бұрын
laurence ash: On reflection, you're correct that it's not a genuine excerpt from the programme. And you're right that it's in fact from a satire show. However, it's actually from an early '60s satirical show, namely That Was The Week That Was, rather than Not The Nine O'Clock News. But let's just be relieved it was never in reality broadcast as an actual part of The Minstrel Show.
@laurenceash
6 жыл бұрын
oh yeah whoops. thanks
@RAYSTANDEN1
7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have copies of B/W Minstrel shows between 1969-1972
@Robert_Manners
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly no, I new some former BBC employees around 2003 who still had some time coded S-VHS copies from 1975 era, however it was not really that appealing to me enough to request copies myself. Even had the VT clocks at the start too.
@mwng631
7 жыл бұрын
Good old fashioned family entertainment.
@HOODSTOCK118
6 жыл бұрын
This doesnt offend me. I paint white women faces white many of times. Checkmate 😂
@@tiathompson6674 Just as the white faced, red lipped 'Clown' came from the dark ages of very ill white people, the minstrels origins also evolved into fantasy and escapism. The working class old ladies who watched the shows were not thinking about black people, they were transported into another world away from the horrors and poverty of WW2 and the aftermath.. and why should they relate it to black people anyway..no black person has white lips.
@johnking5174
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know where the researchers got their BBC TV broadcast dates from, but they are 100% wrong, as researching BBC Genome archive of the Radio Times, the dates shown at 9:03 and 9:23 are wrong.
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
People need to learn the difference between entertainment/satire and what real racism is. I had an argument the other week about the Beano comic's masthead/logo upon the covers of issues from the 1940s and 50s, where it used to have different drawings of either a cartoon child (boy or girl) or an animal such as a bear, ostrich, pet dog, etc. These funny caricatures of boys, girls standing next to the Beano logo could be anyone, from a snotty-nosed little rascal with catapult, a snooty snob, girly lollipop, cake-eating fatty, etc. You get the picture, exaggerated characters, *no exceptions,* all of which were beautifully drawn with humour and affection. But lo, when it was a little black boy eating a melon with a happy smile on his face, this person lost their sh*t, saying it was racist. I asked them, had he ever seen white boy/girl who looked as exaggerated as that, and why aren't they getting 'offended' by the almost grotesque white characters in the Beano, such as The Bash Street Kids, especially the Plug character? Surprise, surprise, they didn't have an answer. It is imperative that we are able to separate the two otherwise we lose the right of free speech. Bandying the word 'racism/racist'' about also lessens its true meaning where real racism is being inflicted around the world.
@bcanimacoes6280
2 жыл бұрын
Depicting black people in blackface is racist unless it's contextually appropriated like in always sunny in philadelphia, where it's depicting trashy people on blackface
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the Minstrel makeup as I accept it for what it was meant to do like any stage makeup, allowing the audience to immerse themselves into the illusion of the theatrical, a celebration of song, dance and entertainment from black culture. Where I would have a problem is if they started to ridicule black people in a scornful or contemptuous manner or pretending to be primitives or something.
@bcanimacoes6280
2 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta im pretty sure that depicting black people as FULLY black while also painting your lips to make them look "thicker" is just stereotypical and offensive, which does classify as a racist depiction. Contextually it doesn't even make sense. It's not like blackface was ENTIRELY required and if it was, then it was certainly racist lol. It's actually astounding how many blackface apologists are in here or in the comment section of Birth of a nation. Like, can't you just say you like it DESPITE it being racist? It would be at least more ballsy if you just straight up admitted to it lmao It's not like Always Sunny, where Mac is an idiot who really thinks blackface is appropriate and everyone calls him out on it. It's not like South Park where it's animated and eric cartman is a dick who thinks he can cover up his criminal tracks by using blackface instead of a mask. They could have just gotten black people instead... These are musical numbers with only white folk, with a good portion of those actually being covered in stereotypical blackface. Of course it garnered a following at that time. Still retarded.
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
@@bcanimacoes6280 I suppose it's all down to the eye of the beholder and if you _choose_ to be offended by it. As I said, it makes sense to me because of the theatrical immersion. To me, it's not a case of "I like it despite it being allegedly 'racist'" but rather an aesthetic look to complete the illusion of the celebration. Personally, it's not so much that I like it, having been brought up on pop music in the early 1980s, I'm not keen on it, as it's not my type of music. As for, 'They could have just gotten black people instead..' contextually, the talent pool of black performers in the UK was miniscule during the 1950s (when this troupe formed). Many immigrants coming over on the boats such as the Windrush Empire generation in the mid-50s and 1960s would not have been able to walk straight into a television production whilst TV was in a boom, especially in an already competitive environment. I do feel empathy for those immigrants who's first passion was as an entertainer, having to take lowly jobs to pay the rent and put food on the table in their new country, and if they were lucky enough, getting gigs in working men's clubs, bottom rung, having to work their way up like everyone else in the industry at the time. Joining the back of the already long cue of indigenous talent trying to get themselves into the TV boom was far off for them by many years in a population of 98% white British people. We must also remember that the majority of entertainers, performers and actors, whatever the colour of their skin, are out of work most of the time. It's lovely to think in an ideal world that they could have easily walked into a television centre and got their own series but this is reality. It wasn't until the early-60s that the talent pool of black performers was growing, with the likes of Kenny Lynch and Shirley Bassey coming onto the scene and opening it up for others but by then, this established troupe of Minstrels were already on a high wave of popularity bringing in millions of viewers a week, including the viewership of the Windrush generation, proving very popular with them as it was _their_ type of music, song and dance. Out of context it may seem 'retarded' to you but the situation wasn't as black and white as that (forgive the pun) as the consideration of the various grey areas have to be factored into it, such as population ratio, miniscule talent pool, competitive market, timescale, etc.
@darrenbradleytwin
2 жыл бұрын
Great post, Adam. What I find bizarre is that the people complaining about this are perfectly okay with shows like Drag Race where essentially they're the same thing as the Minstrels, 'appropriating' something that you're not. Instead of performers pretending to be people of colour with the use of stage makeup, it's 'performers' pretending to be women in a stereotypical, exaggerated, almost grotesque and a mocking nature. Both shows follow the same theme yet are tonally different, one in a celebratory and positive light with no malice intent, the other in a competitive and quite often scornful manner, materialistic, shallow, back-stabbing, mocking, albeit, for the theatrics. It's still essentially the same as 'black face', ie. stage makeup, song, dance, theatre, etc.
@barbaraeade6075
6 жыл бұрын
“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.” ― Oscar Wilde
@internetomatic
5 жыл бұрын
congrats, you're a moron
@frankzappaspussy7362
5 жыл бұрын
and your point is ??? please can you try to - in some coherent way - explain yourself ??
@Robert_Manners
4 жыл бұрын
@@frankzappaspussy7362 Do you mean explaining why Barbara Eade is a moron or what Oscar Wilde was conveying with his famous saying? Work is the curse of the drinking classes, is my personal favourite!
@frankzappaspussy7362
4 жыл бұрын
@@Robert_Manners i was confused/unsure about how the quote was pertinent to this video.. i prefer "If You Want To Tell People the Truth, You’d Better Make Them Laugh or They’ll Kill You" .. but i have just found out that he probably did not coin that phrase..
@Hollyrocks1975
4 жыл бұрын
Your comment might make sense if the reason for blackening up their faces was a form of flattery. It was not. It was in response to their refusing to hire black artists, who led the Jazz, big band, and other musical novelties. It was not ok to actually have black skin at that time, but it was ok to pretend you did? That’s not flattery. It’s a weird sort of double mindedness infused with guilt and mockery.
@petemullen842
2 жыл бұрын
Some great songs and great performances but they could’ve done it just as well without blacking their faces.
@jonharnew
2 жыл бұрын
They tried that and it didn’t work.
@arianrhodhyde7482
Жыл бұрын
Why didn't it work then, if it was just about the lovely songs and glamorous costumes? Great mysteries of our time....
@joegroup1
7 ай бұрын
I remember it being on TV in the 1960's and 70's and I thought it was old hat, I much preferred TOTP. For the past 25 years or so, to see white people blacked up in the minstrel style turns my stomach. People and society change over time.
@jessewest8525
6 жыл бұрын
i was 7ys old it was purgatory fo me hahahaha
@interdec
5 жыл бұрын
jesse west I didn’t watch the video, so I really can’t comment!
@stephenreeds3672
3 жыл бұрын
I was about the same age and I agree. Dreadful.
@tiathompson6674
6 жыл бұрын
Two or three of the black boys and girls.
@aethulwulfvonstopphen8013
Жыл бұрын
His body his choice
@GULFRAZMAJEEDseye8eyes
3 жыл бұрын
The Abraham Lincoln 1943 D copper penny is also a brunette and nobody complained about the browned penny all darkened of American Cent or as certain people call it a pretty penny well I am lodging a complaint that all pennies and coins should be cleaned and cleansed with out any greasepaint or darkened material on any of the coins in America or in Britain cleansing your body and cleansing coins is a good thing next to heavenly heaven don't forget when you get buried you take a bath someone has to clean all your sincerely sins committed cleansing nurse is next to godliness
@valritz3100
Жыл бұрын
Entertainment play a guitar or a banjo climb a mountain.
@brianmorecombe2726
3 жыл бұрын
When i was a nipper growing up in the 70s when i had my chips and burghers i`d have a slice of bread and butter for afters and open my Robertsons strawberry Jam and see the Golliwog on the side of it.Then i`d sit down and watch telly and see them on tv as the black and white minstrel show and i`d flick over on to ITV and watch Love They Neighbour.A few years later itv also showed Roots.More prejudism on tv was Mind Your Language.
@nimbledick9869
8 ай бұрын
They should bring this show back but instead make it Anti-Racist. They would do this by getting Lenny Henry and a load of other black actors/actresses to sing 45 minute songs in white face-paint about the lack of rhythm of white people, white privilege, reparations for slavery and how countless figures from British history such as Queen Charlotte and William Shakespeare were actually black.
@raymondmcmillan9241
3 жыл бұрын
Just think? People were offended when the Wayon's brothers did white chicks?
@michaelturner4457
Жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid in the 70s, there was a local man who would do blackface and mime to Al Jolson songs. :D
@TheOriginalLordMike
7 жыл бұрын
01.57... Tony Blair´s dad!
@John-ro1iv
4 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 Spitting image. Apart from the mouth being a bit odd and that splodge on the forehead, he's a ringer (though he's probably younger than Blair).
@jimboy419
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the men were all black and the women were all white.
@kamandi1362
5 жыл бұрын
Bi like a modern BBC show, only now they use real blacks.
@ABC_DEF
4 жыл бұрын
The women had a lot more bare flesh on display, and blacking them up would have been a much bigger job.
@bbwnpat
3 жыл бұрын
I have a little known fact for you. All the white ladies in the show were actually black women wearing white make up.
@yell50
4 жыл бұрын
I alway thought as a black kid growing up why not use real black men, because it was obvious even to a 7 year child like me they were not black men. but here is the irony my late mum genuinely liked the show only because black people were rarely shown on tv during those times so any black face even fakes ones were better than nothing. It my appear i am saying this with humour ( it is funny) but this is absolutely true. I feel maybe, just maybe if real black men were allowed to be minstrels the black and white minstrels would be still on TV today but with current up to date songs however, the people who run the show failed to grab this opportunity so the show would not survive. and rightly so too.
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
Because the talent pool of black performers in the UK was next to zero during the 1950s-1970s. Those of whom just stepped off the boat from the Caribbean would have had to have joined the already long queue of white people also trying to get a their foot in the door into television showbusiness. It was their offspring born in the UK that eventually made it into television as the country began to get more and more diverse. Lenny Henry being a prime example. It must have been hard for those talented black performers having to take alternative jobs in order to make a living knowing where their heart lay but at least those children that followed in their parent's footsteps had the chance to make the break. I suppose it's all about historical context which dictates the facts.
@yell50
4 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta You are talking a load of crap there were plenty of black talented entertainers from the 50's and even more so from the 70's they were just never given the chance because of the racist atmosphere from that period, for instance the very first interracial kiss on UK TV mid 60's had floods of complaints from viewers this is still unmatched even today. The big change happened in the 80's prior to that there was next to no black people in adverts. So for you to say there was zero talent from black people stepping of the boat (as you call it ) is blinking laughable. As a small boy in the mid 60's I remember my mum would shout to my dad look there a black man on TV my dad would get his face out the news papers and marvel at it it was probably a small acting part in danger man series or something. it was literally like this in most black people homes during that period things have improved drastically.
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
@@yell50 Give me the names of a dozen black singing and dancing entertainers who were made British citizens that broke into television during the 1950s that could make up this troupe to prove me wrong? There's no denying that there was _some_ racist atmosphere during the time of the mass immigration but there was also a welcoming atmosphere too. TV programmes will always have a flood of complaints and people will always complain about silly things. They would even complain about a white man and a white woman kissing on TV if it was deemed too smoochy. People will even complain if they don't like a certain character kissing a certain character. Emergency Ward 10 was no exception to any of these. I've already noted that the change started to really happen prior to the 1980s so I don't know why you're telling me something I already know? I never said there was zero talent, I said next to zero which means, very little and yes, it was a boat, why, what would you call those large vessels that float in the water? What is laughable is your inability to read properly. Nice to know your parents treating them as a some spectacle as though they were in some kind of freak show or something but yea, just goes to show how tiny the talent pool in the UK was, that it was a rarity. Hope you're not struggling with those dozen names you're scraping for by the way. How's that coming along?
@yell50
4 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta A typical response from a white person when i say white person that is not to infer your a racist by any means only you dont understand as you have never lived it. calling someone racist just because they have a different opinion is not me, hell even i have been called a racist by my own family members because i support trump me and you have a different interpretation of issues in the past, i will apologize for saying you talk crap i should have been more diplomatic, however lets agree to disagree thanks for shearing your thoughts.
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
@@yell50 No it isn't a 'typical response from a white person' (now look who's showing their prejudice!), it is the response of someone who has read into it historically and balanced it with context and statistics. I don't have to be black to understand, the only trait I need is empathy as a human being, the colour of skin doesn't come into it, feelings do and I empathise as a fellow human. At the end of the day, this troupe formed before the influx, they brought pleasure to those whom enjoyed the music and songs and was even popular with newly settled black people within these shores because it was *their* music. The talent pool of black people who could match the talent of this troupe was miniscule as back then in the early 1950s, the white population was 98%. Television was at a boom and the queue to enter the medium was already a long one with its indigenous people, never mind foreigners just stepping off the boat! Yea, we had the likes of Kenny Lynch and Shirley Bassey just coming onto the scene but there was nowhere near a sustainable amount of black entertainers within the UK to do a complete swap for this Minstrel troupe. Britain was moving at an organic and natural state of immigration, things always do when there's an introduction of political changes, such as the Windrush Empire scheme of inviting Caribbean people over to find work in a post-war Britain. It's all about weighing up the timescale, the population, the influx, the work available, statistics and all manner of things to put it all into historical context. It wasn't, if you pardon the pun, just black and white, there were all the vast grey areas in between. Your apology is accepted for the 'talk crap', thank you... but what about an apology for your racist remark of a 'typical white person'?
@CamcorderSteve
4 жыл бұрын
When I was told that the Black and white minstrel show was being banned because it was racist, I couldn't believe it. I watched it from a young boy right up to my late teens and saw nothing wrong with it at all. It was simply light entertainment at its best with a bit of a gimmick in that all of the male singers were blacked up. They were not taking the mick, or saying that black people were bad people, in some ways they were paying tribute to them, but rather than taking it as such, a lot of them chose to take offense which was really a shame in my opinion. One of the comments below said that "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", and I wholeheartedly agree. Next thing we will not be able to use 'blackboards' in school, they will have to be called 'chalk boards', maybe I am being a bit over the top there, but it might just happen, you never know!!
@lisah8438
4 жыл бұрын
Most black people don't appreciate minstrel shows. Why hire white actors to play black people. When you can hire black people to play black people? And why are only white people defending it then? I have never heard a black person try to defend a minstrel show.
@crackerscheese33
2 жыл бұрын
@@wayzzmaster0941 No it isn't, in fact it was the gateway for black people to enter the stage, as historically, women and people of colour were not allowed to perform. The Minstrels bridged the gap until gradually the Minstrels brought on actual black people into the fold, the audiences not so aghast with the thought. In entertainment terms, it did black people a favour.
@FRANKTHRING1
6 жыл бұрын
I used to watch it from its inception and at the time as a child and later a teenager did not notice any racial-slur overtones whatsoever - it was good ole songs sung well and very easy on the eye. Watching the clips on this programme I must say looking back it does seem a bit creepy to look at, but I still fail to see the fuss. Its awards at international TV festivals show that at the time other countries also did not see it as racist.
@teishahickman2108
Жыл бұрын
Geez...Insane.
@rogersweet3608
3 жыл бұрын
The English have called Welsh people Taffys..etc... we should all grow up ...smell the coffee and recognise true talent as B/W minstrels etc
@hecateswolf6007
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I'm often called a sheep shagger by my English mates, I just reply well we shag em you eat them. People can't take a joke anymore, there's far more worrying things in the world to attend to than hurty words and PC crap.
@domoreilly5147
3 жыл бұрын
I wondered why the women never 'blacked up'. I remember it on television and never understood why the singers 'blacked up' when they could have got black singers or just had the white singers without make up. A strange concept indeed.
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
The women didn't have dark makeup on because the show wanted to be streets ahead of what we now see in most television commercials ;-) We have to remember in context that the talent pool of foreign actors and actresses in the UK was extremely tiny when this troupe formed in the 1950s.
@johnhamiltonathome
7 жыл бұрын
Its only 3 years ago i thought that thy was black. But thy meant no harm.
@antoniod
7 жыл бұрын
If MINSTREL SHOW had been shown on American TV in the same years, the station would have been burnt down!
@davidlee4619
7 жыл бұрын
So just because some people do not like a television programme they would resort to violence and arson. I'm sorry but that statement is nothing to be proud of.
@antoniod
7 жыл бұрын
I'M NOT ADVOCATING BURNING A TV CHANNEL DOWN! I'M SAYING THAT B/W MINSTREL SHOW COULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ON US TV IN THE 60s OR 70s! IT'S A STATEMENT OF FACT THAT THE REACTION COULD HAVE BEEN VIOLENT, NOT A RECOMMENDATION!
@vaslav030547
7 жыл бұрын
Wow your loud! Are you American?
@antoniod
7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't criticizing the Black and White Minstrel as a person, or Golly as a thing, I was just sayin' it. I'm not advocating burning a TV station down, I'm just pointing out the difference in attitudes between Britain and the US!
@MichaelLantz
6 жыл бұрын
You are correct sir.Look at Amos and Andy (The Tv Show),it got banned from the airwaves by The NAACP in 1966.The different between the "Black and White Minstrels Shows",is that Amos and Andy used Black Actors and The guys who wrote the shows were Black as well.
@GreatWolfBalistic
4 жыл бұрын
Love the old woman being angry and defensive that black man would offended by this creepy show that reflected nothing of what black could relate to at the time with the themes of the song😂😂😂
@lisapet160
4 жыл бұрын
What's about men dressed as women?
@Teddyk5555
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the minstrels identify as black
@Stiffd1
4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I like that...but most women : Don’t!
@crackerscheese33
2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me that Drag Race will be seen as inappropriate in 25 years time with men appropriating women. Maybe even sooner the way men are 'identifying' as 'women' to invade women's spaces and sports. Also, no-one can change their sex, that's impossible.
@crackerscheese33
2 жыл бұрын
@@wayzzmaster0941 What has that got to do with anything I said? Do you have any grasp of what you're talking about?
@denrikislam676
5 жыл бұрын
As a small boy in England in the 70s I could not quite work it out. I thought perhaps the men were really black guys. But they looked strange...and the whole thing bemused me. That bemusement is now a kind of horror....
@BleakVision
3 жыл бұрын
You‘re not really horrified though, just virtue signaling.
@bjornbuckley
3 жыл бұрын
Was trying to enjoy the show but the narrators kept interrupting :(
@yell50
3 жыл бұрын
Easy solution to the controversy just use green face or another colour, then no one can be offended. So why did they not do something like this? is a mystery to me.
@Stibly
2 жыл бұрын
You'll offend the aliens!
@Katie-gr9mt
2 жыл бұрын
Why have face paint at all?
@yell50
2 жыл бұрын
@@Katie-gr9mt That is like saying why do clowns need to wear make-up it's the entertainment factor that's why. Which could have been solved by using green face which could not offend anyone this would have encouraged more people to go out and get the new colour televisions sets during the early days of them being sold who knows maybe the green and white minstrels show would be still very popular today.
@flachi32
5 жыл бұрын
Our household was one of the 25 million or so that thought it was utter crap.
@jonharnew
2 жыл бұрын
Great wholesome entertainment from a time when people didn’t blame all their troubles and inadequacy on something that happened 200 years ago.
@tristanbruns5968
2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the documentary? Black people were NOT OKAY with this! The audience you are talking about is white.
@Hollyrocks1975
4 жыл бұрын
...and so, the BBC never actually admits it was not good form to have an entire program run for 20 years on the basis of blackface? I love how they ended this documentary with good natured befuddlement about how they had no idea it might have hurt black people or made them feel humiliated and objectified. Aside from the apologetic nonsense at the end, this was decently well-rounded and educational program. Dear BBC: no, perhaps your intention was not to hurt or humiliate minorities, but it was a clear result. That old saying, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” is an adage for a reason, you know.
@onthemarketblog6444
6 жыл бұрын
BBC Commentator : Britain was becoming a different Society .... ? [ Society is made up of all races and religions ] the show was harmless..... glamorous fun ... ? having lived through this decade tell you it was horrifying to cal it this was glamorous and harmless
@Jack-russell103
2 жыл бұрын
Had to suffer through this ghastly show whilst at my grandparents. I was a kid
@darrenbradleytwin
2 жыл бұрын
Growing up with pop music and Top of the Pops, I think it's fair to say, most kids of the 70s felt the same. Music hall theatre had become so old fashioned by then but at least they were still catering to those oldies who probably grew up on it, even before rock n' roll became a thing.
@Jack-russell103
2 жыл бұрын
@@darrenbradleytwin right
@tiathompson6674
6 жыл бұрын
"This could have offended them"
@shanemckenna9416
5 жыл бұрын
They should bring it back.
@ChristopherSobieniak
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind if it was on equal footing and any dancer was allowed to be in it, black or white.
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
The blacks whiting-up and the whites blacking-up, keeping in spirit of the show and just to completely mess with the heads of the 'offended' crowd and show them all that it's all a fuss over absolutely _nothing._ I'd watch it, especially if it involved the blacks Morris Dancing!
@ChristopherSobieniak
4 жыл бұрын
@@mekonta That would be amusing.
@lisah8438
4 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherSobieniak I am thinking only white people like minstrel shows.
@alankenney
4 ай бұрын
Wow, they had tablets @ 2.52? lol
@valritz3100
Жыл бұрын
Love black people. Now they're putting black face on to get reparations. They love beautiful black skin and love the beautiful black women.
@clydebarrow4439
4 жыл бұрын
Blacks weren't really on TV very much in this time. So I guess this was a way to diversify television back then.
@SuperFerdie1965
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't realise Bill Cotton was such a snowflake. His dad would have been disgusted by what he said.
@mervynwells6577
3 жыл бұрын
If you look at things with an offensive eye, you will see offence. That said, if they had 'blued' or 'greened' up, would that have been offensive? Or dressed as robots? The whole point of the programme was to sing songs and have an entertaining show. It was not the black face why people watched the show, but the entertainment of the singing and dancing and the colourful spectacular. Something that is missing today. Musicals often have the great production number, so a show with songs from the musicals, with good production values, and no blackface would be one answer to this while still providing good entertainment.
@Katie-gr9mt
2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember blue or green people or robots being treated like scum, enslaved, lynched, murdered,segregated and oppressed for hundreds of years
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, but do you remember the previous 5,000 years of slavery across every corner of the globe BEFORE the Atlantic Slave Trade, or even the African Slave Trade trading slaves amongst their own rival tribes before Europeans even set foot on the continent? How about the North African Slave Traders that would set sail for Portugal and Southern England, kidnapping white people 'treating them like scum, lynched, murdered, segregated and oppressing them thousands of miles away from their families and green grass of England, never to be seen again, and all AFTER the British abolished slavery in 1833?
@anythingbootneck
5 жыл бұрын
Good clean family entertainment, nobody thought it racist until the media suggested it.
@lisah8438
4 жыл бұрын
No until black people suggested it. Listen to black people.
@Katie-gr9mt
2 жыл бұрын
They might not have thought it but it was still racist
@seabell475
5 жыл бұрын
I was dragged to a minstrel show on holiday and try frightened the life out of me I had nightmares!
@ohmeowzer1
4 жыл бұрын
This was before my time, glad I missed it....the songs are fun but they could of done it without that blackface..i like the song in the good old summertime.....this was very interesting thank-you for educating us on this subject...those songs didn't need black face to be enjoyed...the blackface was unneeded..omg that song about missippi is horrible omg.......omg
@stantheman5657
4 жыл бұрын
The song about Mississippi was deliberately horrible to point out how horrible it was for black folk in the southern states of America with police brutality at marches and murders bombings by the kkk
@DD-rp2qr
3 жыл бұрын
That Mississippi song is the essence of what protest music is. It startles the people who consider themselves “innocent”. Their response to the protest song tells us whether they will consider another point of view.
@63DAVEMAC
3 жыл бұрын
They did do this show without the black face. It was a flop. I am glad to have been born in a time before all this pc stuff. No one was forced to watch any shows on TV.
@edwardszzz
7 жыл бұрын
I remember watching it with my parents. I thought it was creepy.
@samholden4171
3 жыл бұрын
So did i
@samholden4171
3 жыл бұрын
I watched this as a child no wonder i was on tablets later on in life😣
@mekonta
3 жыл бұрын
LOL Most kids were scarred for life from watching Daleks, Zygons and Cybermen but for you it was men singing and dancing.
@freemanv4056
4 жыл бұрын
Bring it back. Black racists should never be appeased.
@Katie-gr9mt
2 жыл бұрын
Get help
@Katie-gr9mt
2 жыл бұрын
Why would you think this is okay?
@AndrewWilliams-zc1hf
6 жыл бұрын
The PC brigade thought they were giving the Jamaicans black looks & might be offended.
@jangray395
5 жыл бұрын
Uh huh, durh.... yeah right. Are you from Eton or is it Cambridge? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@John-ro1iv
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the fuss is about. These days, in places like Africa, there are theatres all over the continent full of guys with black faces singing and dancing. Things haven't changed that much.
@ABC_DEF
4 жыл бұрын
Such wonderful music and dancing. It's a shame the PC brigade got to it in the end, taking offence where none was intended.
@kevinoldham8421
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting documentary. I remember the show. Really boring with or without the make-up. 😖
@greenpedal370
5 жыл бұрын
As the chap said, it was a pantomime for adults. Nothing more or less. The chip on the shoulder blacks took it literally, more fool them.
@GULFRAZMAJEEDseye8eyes
3 жыл бұрын
Nobody complained about the coal miners and the hard working people in the streets full of muck on their faces and the people chimney sweepers full of dust and muck plus the fact the old English pennies they were full of dark greasepaint and nobody complained when it came in their hand and even the silver sixpence was sometime full of Greece and the shilling
@darrenbradleytwin
2 жыл бұрын
nobody seems to complain about Drag Race either which is essentially the same thing as the Minstrels, 'appropriating' something that you're not. Instead of performers pretending to be people of colour with the use of stage makeup, it's 'performers' pretending to be women in a stereotypical, exaggerated, almost grotesque and a mocking nature. Both shows follow the same theme yet are tonally different, one in a celebratory and positive light with no malice intent, the other in a competitive and quite often scornful manner, materialistic, shallow, back-stabbing, mocking, albeit, for the theatrics. It's still essentially the same as 'black face', ie. stage makeup, song, dance, theatre, etc. One is allowed because it is deemed 'progressive' yet the other is a no-no in their eyes. Their whole view is skewed and topsy-turvy.
@darrenbradleytwin
2 жыл бұрын
@@Katie-gr9mt Yes I did, honey and it's something you're going to have to cope with. Aesthetically, there's nothing messed up about it as they are within the same theatrical category of entertainment, pretending to be something they're not. I know exactly where you're coming from when you say, 'murdered because of their race', because when you say 'race', you're naively and only referring to black people, aren't you? You need to be more specific, just come out and say what you really mean. Which slave trade are you referring to, Ancient Egypt, Babylonia, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Contubernium, Ancillae, Byzantine, Empire Kholop, Serfs, Emancipation, Thrall, The Contract of manumission, Ottoman, The Barbary Coast, Concubinage, Ottoman Imperial Harem, Jarya/Cariye, Odalisque, Qiyan, Bristol, Brazil, Dutch, Middle Passage, Nantes, New France, Panyarring, Spanish Empire, Slave Coast, Thirteen colonies or did you just mean The Atlantic Slave Trade? Again, you need to be more specific in order to form a proper debate. Drag is indeed comparable for precisely the reasons I outlined.
@mekonta
2 жыл бұрын
@@wayzzmaster0941 How is it possible to change a XX chromosomes into XY chromosomes? I don't think you've quite thought anything through properly. It is IMPOSSIBLE to change sex. But let's play devil's advocate here, what if it were possible within medical science to change one's colour of skin, to change skin colour, in the same way that a man can cosmetically appear as though they're a woman? You're saying it shouldn't be allowed... then why? You just seem to be outraged without actually critically *thinking* anything through properly. Your words are just like those who tow the party line, sanctimoniously empty, because they follow a certain narrative in order to make yourself appear good and stroke your own ego.
@darrenbradleytwin
2 жыл бұрын
*@Katie* Aesthetically, there's nothing messed up about it as they are within the same theatrical category of entertainment, pretending to be something they're not. I know exactly where you're coming from when you say, 'murdered because of their race', because when you say 'race', you're naively and only referring to black people, aren't you?
@darrenbradleytwin
2 жыл бұрын
*@Katie* You need to be more specific, just come out and say what you really mean. Which slave trade are you referring to? *Ancient Egypt, Babylonia, Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, Contubernium, Ancillae, Byzantine, Empire Kholop, Serfs, Emancipation, Thrall, The Contract of manumission, Ottoman, The Barbary Coast, Concubinage, Ottoman Imperial Harem, Jarya/Cariye, Odalisque, Qiyan, Bristol, Brazil, Dutch, Middle Passage, Nantes, New France, Panyarring, Spanish Empire, Slave Coast, Thirteen Colonies* or did you just mean _The Atlantic Slave Trade?_ Again, you need to be more specific in order to form a proper debate. Drag is indeed comparable for precisely the reasons I outlined.
@scientifico
7 жыл бұрын
I grew up in england and I have no recollection of this show. Thanks mum and dad for protecting me from this filth.
@miklo6907
5 жыл бұрын
Cause they watched it in private it was their favorite show
@cutelittledoll
4 жыл бұрын
Miklo pmsl.
@syourke3
5 жыл бұрын
I guess the Brits never went through a black civil rights movement like we did in the US. Otherwise, there’s no way this would have survived on BBC until 1978. It’s cringeworthy but there was a lot of talent there, too. Stephen Foster was a songwriter of genius.
@mitchaok
5 жыл бұрын
it was us brits that began the ending of slavery in the US.
@syourke3
5 жыл бұрын
Paul Mitchell How do you figure? The Brits supported the Confederacy during the Civil War.
@crackerscheese33
2 жыл бұрын
The historic facts of the Abolition Act 1833 figures so.
@syourke3
2 жыл бұрын
@@crackerscheese33 What does that Act have to do with ending slavery in the USA?
@crackerscheese33
2 жыл бұрын
It was in addition to Paul's comment that began the gradual process of progression.
@christalscott3164
2 жыл бұрын
Like the Lawrence Welk show with racism.
@assistefamiliakk8869
2 жыл бұрын
motivos pra odiar brancos
@supermariosunshine64
Жыл бұрын
If the intent was completely respectful and non-racist, why not bring in actual black performers into the fold?
@ConcernedCitizen5514
4 жыл бұрын
It is kind of funny, but they don't sound like black people at all - it's so strange.
@vaslav030547
7 жыл бұрын
Looking at it logically I feel it promoted acceptability through its sheer brilliance. Sadly the world is now too narrow minded.One might as well say any drag act undermines transsexuals, or 'Are you being served' undermines gay people! Its a bloody nonsense. Bring back entertainment.
@Eleventhearlofmars
6 жыл бұрын
Lisabeth Hanscom some black people in the 70s did look like golliwogs. Michael Jackson with his Afro comes to mind.
@jerrykitich3318
7 жыл бұрын
You could do the whole show without the black face and lose nothing, except the racism.
@cxcmb
7 жыл бұрын
it was tried after protests. in 1969, there was a "white face" spinoff called music music music with the same singers not in makeup... it failed horribly (only lasted 10 episodes), so they brought back the minstrel show.
@kidlitfanful
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's nothing about the acts that is actually mimicking black tropes. It's just a bunch of bland white guys singing. Some of the songs are from the American South pre-Civil War, but there's nothing about the performances that's any different from British music hall.
@jangray395
5 жыл бұрын
@@cxcmb after protests. You mean, people saw it as racist back then.. Well would you believe it! I wonder what the majority of apologists here make of that. Ooh, they don't like facts? Shame.
@constantlyenthused336
Жыл бұрын
It isn’t racist. There wasn’t an ounce of malice in it. If anything it was affectionate and respectful towards black music, history. It all seems terribly misguided now but to ignore this and the historical context and just scream “racist” is really missing the point
@snowball1988
Жыл бұрын
If it was "affectionate" and "respectful" of black music then why not hire and pay actual black performers to perform their supposed own music?
@LETMino85
Жыл бұрын
At best it's rude & incredibly naive. Which perhaps, yes, was the time. Worst it's racist & sexist as well btw.
@lesandrosemaryroberts8481
6 жыл бұрын
I f only we had shows like that now! It's the old story of the enjoyment of millions being ruined by a handful of bigots
@NETSY296
7 жыл бұрын
In the early 1960s I was forced to sit still and silent in my 'Sunday Best' to watch this despicable programme and listen to my ghastly grandfather laughing. I was disgusted and a bit non-plussed then, as a child. I am also now appalled.
@andrewjamesgranger3101
7 жыл бұрын
NETSY296 same. as a kid, i thought there was something sinister in it, despite the bright music. i never liked it.
@TheStephenheath
6 жыл бұрын
bull shit
@icemachine79
6 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way when I watched Lawrence Welk with my grandmother. But they didn't use blackface so I can't blame racism for hating the music and everything else about that mind-numbingly boring show.
@ailish3012
6 жыл бұрын
NETSY296 you were before your time 👌🏼👌🏼
@Eleventhearlofmars
6 жыл бұрын
Go and put a claim in for criminal injury, you may have a case ffs
@Gary80264
5 жыл бұрын
National institution? Pure crap.
@garyhunt8067
4 жыл бұрын
Why did the BBC put this show on with music which is from 1880 to 1910? Trashy show now. I hope it rots in the BBC archive. If they put it on again, I will switch it off.
@ihno45
4 жыл бұрын
The BBC deleted the original tapes of the old doctor who episodes but they kept this. :D
@garyhunt8067
2 жыл бұрын
@@ihno45 true. Shame these weren't wiped
@harold5337
Жыл бұрын
@@garyhunt8067 Many episodes were wiped, sadly not enough of them. All should have been junked except one, to keep as a warning to future generations. Sad how we lost so many Hancock, Steptoe, Not Only but Also, Dads Army and Doctor Who episodes, but 80 episodes of this drivel survive.
@manfredwilliams9762
6 жыл бұрын
God, how I hated this programme, I used to have to sit through it as a kid. I didn't know anything about racism at that age, I just knew it was FUCKING SHIT.
@michaeljordan9879
5 жыл бұрын
It's just so stupid. If it was all just innocent music and pretty costumes why did they need blackface?
@michaeljordan9879
5 жыл бұрын
@Emil Jansson because it doesnt make any sense to just "be black" for no reason other than mimicry as if simply being black makes your dancing and swinging more entertaining. If you're going use the "why not" fallacy why not put in false buck teeth squint your eyes and do Asian?
@mekonta
4 жыл бұрын
Because it was part of the art form in the same way that a clown would put on an Auguste before they sang, danced and entertained.
@DisconnectedRoamer
4 жыл бұрын
Men shouldn't pretend to be women after opressing them for so long with this logic. Why can't people pretend to be other races? ever seen white chicks?
@bdwilliewillie6152
5 жыл бұрын
So the women stayed white and the white guys blackened their faces 😳... wanna be us much?🤷♂️
@bdwilliewillie6152
5 жыл бұрын
@pffft63 proof is out there. You're welcome to join us.
@jefsiv
4 жыл бұрын
The best variety show of the 70's wasn't this crap, it was the Dean Martin Variety Hour. No racism.
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