I have a pellet, drum, and offset smoker. In the end of the day it all depends on how much time I have to spend maintaining the temp. From no time at all on the pellet smoker to Im going to sit all day in front of the fire on the offset
@jimbo-bbqpitmaster1313
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the continued videos Joe. Been cooking on reverse flows (Lang’s and JR Enterprise cookers) for 16 years. Still have them. But the Primitive Pits 1,000 I got last year is amazingly better than any of my other cookers. Better finished product, more evenly temps, etc..
@davidboggs3057
8 ай бұрын
I like having the Electric smoker around for warming and finishing off things in foil pans if needed. It's essentially an electric oven.
@knoxavebbq
8 ай бұрын
yea, i hear a lot of people doing that. unfortunately i don't have one, and don't plan on getting one. haha.
@joeborovina4769
3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding ! Made 3 pastramis on my BGE , now your brisket speaks to me now . thank you Joe .
@4_the_health_of_it
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 18.5 WSM, and it has done me well thus far. Now if I could get you and Jeremy to convince my wife that I need an offset, that would be awesome. 😁
@knoxavebbq
2 жыл бұрын
That’s between you and the wife. Lol
@ezmendez81
3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome Video. I just purchased a Lone Star Grillz offset smoker. Wont be arriving until June but I'm excited. I will be doing a brisket when I get it.
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
nice! should be good times.
@jeans3490
3 жыл бұрын
LSG’s are second to none! 🔥🇺🇸👍🏼
@ezmendez81
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeans3490 that is great to hear. I ordered it in January. Eager for it to arrive.
@adrianBOSS69
3 жыл бұрын
I’m going all in with a workhorse pit
@imprezivr61
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with this
@outnumberedbbq
3 жыл бұрын
Love my 1975t
@MrPanthers23
3 жыл бұрын
One day, I hope to convince my wife that I need an offset smoker.
@barbersque
3 жыл бұрын
Love me 1975
@narbekalantarians6269
Жыл бұрын
I've done some really good bbq on my WSM 22, but definitely better on the custom built reverse flow at my bud's bbq place. WSM is a really good starter smoker for sure and I agree that ribs are its strong point.
@knoxavebbq
Жыл бұрын
Definitely. That bottom is great for ribs
@michaelduncan2759
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one MJY. I have a pellet, a vertical wood & gas fired, and a Weber Kettle with an SNS. Saving for one of JD’s masterpieces.
@bud1971
Жыл бұрын
I have a Primo ceramic cooker and I don't regret buying it at all. The ceramic cookers are truly versatile, and you are right, I am very happy with the pork ribs I cook. The one downside is brisket. I can consistently cook a tender brisket with pretty good flavor. But it will never approach top level brisket. The ceramic grills want to run hot. It is easy to peg my 700 degree thermometer with the air dampers open. It is amazing how efficient they are when you close the air dampers. They will maintain 250 degrees for many hours with very little charcoal consumpion. But that limits the clean smoke you are producing and negatively affects the bark. I am really kicking around getting a cheap offset just for brisket. BTW, doesn't one of the Lockhart 3 cook fast over open coals? I might be able to pull that off on the Primo.
@knoxavebbq
Жыл бұрын
Yea. Brisket seems to be the only one that requires a bit more attention, but I’m sure it just takes time getting use to cooking it like that. I would like to get one to try it out, but I’m running out of space in my backyard. Hha
@justplanefred
2 жыл бұрын
I agree whatever your cooking on you need to know what the temperature is at the same plane as what your cooking is very important. I've seen grate level temps on my thin offset 80 degrees higher than what I was seeing at grate level compared to the thermometer in the lid. Sometimes the difference in temperature changes throughout the cook as well and you wouldn't know that if your not paying attention to the temperature where your cooking otherwise.
@knoxavebbq
2 жыл бұрын
💯
@Railroad_Bbq
2 жыл бұрын
Insulated vertical cabinet smokers like Lone Star grillz or Backwoods using charcoal and wood are great
@michaelduncan2759
3 жыл бұрын
MJY, you are exactly correct, I use my pellet smoker for flavor testing. I love JD’s pits and I want one of his offsets. However, I also want a Myron Mixon G-20, and a Kamado Komodo 32. Then the backyard will be complete.
@chuckarock2001
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Can't say I agree with everything but thanks for sharing. Regards from Australia 🤓🇦🇺🇺🇸
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
I love and appreciate different opinions. Like I love to say, “it’s all about preferences.” Thanks for watching!
@MrPanthers23
3 жыл бұрын
If I could do it all over again, I shouldve bought a weber 26" with a SNS
@bigdawgsbbq2737
3 жыл бұрын
I have a Weber 26... love it! I also have a 22" WSM, 24" Kamado Joe and a Rec Tec Pellet cooker, love all of them... But none of them put out the quality BBQ that my LSG 24"X48" offset does! Just something about the stick burner that takes the food to another level in IMHO.
@Jc-ef1yu
3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Where's your go to spot for quality meat?
@jettyongchua7656
3 жыл бұрын
Hi I love this series! Could you comment on how steep is the learning curve is from a WSM/Lang 48'/backyard offset smoker to a 500gal/1000gal smoker! Look forward to your BBQ Talk on this :D
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not that steep of learning curve. You should be fine.
@NathanPier
3 жыл бұрын
to be completely transparent, fire management on a well-built 500 or 1,000 gallon pit is going to be considerably easier than on most small backyard offsets. The additional difficulty comes in with the increased meat volume because you have far more to keep track of.
@guilhermanacas
3 жыл бұрын
I started with a PBC, got a great deal from the UK at the very beginning of the pandemic. Now i'm thinking about buying an Octo from Fatstack but just customs alone is gonna be crazy expensive, let's see!
@jefferykesler3933
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on Yoder Cheyenne. Just smoking for family but want really authentic and good Barbecue.
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
If I had known any better, I probably would go with some of the other guys I had mentioned, but I’m sure it’s a fine pit for backyard usage. Cooking space might get a little tight if you trying to do a cook that’s a little bit more. Thanks for watching!
@felipemata2960
3 жыл бұрын
I have an old country wrangler offset. I like the smoke you get from an offset over a pellet smoker. To me, pellet smokers are to expensive and you sacrifice a lot of smoke flavor unless you have one of those smoke tubes
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@nesheimvisuals
3 жыл бұрын
Best commercial smoker - primitive pits, of course.
@davidchavarria2992
3 жыл бұрын
How would you compare the food quality between a WSM and an offset? Thanks!
@michaelduncan2759
3 жыл бұрын
So what would be a good offset for a beginner to that style of Q?
@jeans3490
3 жыл бұрын
Free Weber on Craigslist is the BEST place to start! 🔥🇺🇸👍🏼
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
Free is always good
@jaskeda
Жыл бұрын
I got a free cheap offset smoker on craigslist. I cooked ribs and chicken so far is really good. I will try a brisket after I modify the chimney
@johnshultz9557
3 жыл бұрын
What kind of smoker do you have at home looks like a old country
@zmcknight319
3 жыл бұрын
Alright, far as in commercial smokers, I will say this. Think of it in the business sense, not just the cooking sense. Most 500 to 1000 gal commercial smokers start between 10k-18k and thats both on a trailer or skids. This price range incompass most centex style smoker builders. The best smoker you can get is probably the one you build or have a local metal fabricator to build. This is cost effective and on top of that you have a pit thats exactly how you like it. Usually that should fall in the 5k to 8k range. So that means you save 3k to 10k dollars that couod be used as working capital. You can also get a reverse flow design such as a lang or a sling n steel custom pit. These also could cook the same volume or more depending on size and design and these are cosr effective. Its not about if you have the most trendy builder. Its about how business savy you are. If you can get a cost effective smoker, then you can invest into better quality ingridients or, you can have the money set aside for insurance or business expenses. Im not knocking any builder here, or anyone. However I am saying, that you better be business savy because that will either make you, or break you. Start small, save money, be frugal, and always weigh your options and do research.
@joeborovina4769
3 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a wise man ...That advice is good for other things as well.
@NathanPier
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. If you think that you want to turn your hobby into a pop-up, weekend catering gig or an eventual restaurant, you will spend a lot of money scaling up if you only go one size up at a time. And when considering size, you should absolutely pay attention to the cost of meat you load and and the projected profits you can get out of a pit and how it is configured.
@zmcknight319
3 жыл бұрын
@@NathanPier im business, always start small. Id rather do this than to try to bite off more than i can chew
@zmcknight319
3 жыл бұрын
@@murpbrad i think yall both missed the principle of the matter. But to each there own
@zmcknight319
3 жыл бұрын
@@murpbrad sir. Ive been in the bbq business for over 10 years. Trust me when i say start small. I may not have the background of nathan and thats fine. Nothing ive said had to do with webers. I was saying start small. Most food establishments fail within the first 2 years. I started small and it worked. Now im upgrading. Its easier to upgrade than it is to downgrade. Be frugal with your money. Theres more to bbq than instagram and popular smokers. You need a customer base. Its a labor of love paired with common sense. Im not here to impress anyone or to be impressed my anyone. However i will tell others to make common sense financial decisions. Hence my original comments. Having too many units can lead you to being too commercialized and running on a thin margin. Being too small will strangle you too. Do whats best for your situation and the market youre in. And finally. Be original. Find your flavor and style. Also, theres multiple establishments who have less than 2 pits and have served for over 80 years. Especially in the chicago, kansas city, milwaukee area. They may not be in the news or all over the social media. But i do know they have been in business long before all of us were born and are still going strong during covid. So they are doing something right. Alot of these places have 1 pit but they feed nearly 500-1000 people a day. No gas. Just wood. So like I said. Im not knocking anyone or putting anyone down. Just wise and smart to what is going on. Dont fall for the trendy stuff. Go the path less travelled.
@HuSmokin
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe thank you for the videos! I recently started reading more about folks saying easier to make good bbq on commercial sized pits vs smaller pits in our backyards. Do you find that to be generally true in your opinion too?
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
No I don’t think so. I think 1000 gallons are pretty difficult unless you’re filling it up end to end. Obviously you don’t want a tiny space to cook, but something that’s like half the size of a 250 I think is great. I think I get better food out of my backyard pit, even thought the fire can be a little more challenging to manage because the firebox is smaller.
@HuSmokin
3 жыл бұрын
@@knoxavebbq thank you for taking the time to respond! 👍🏼
@Andresssp
3 жыл бұрын
If really on a budget. I'd buy an oil drum. And cut a hole on the bottom and open the top. Put a grill on it and get a 18 inch grill top.
@omcorc
3 жыл бұрын
Boom! You got it, brother. I run a Humphrey’s Battle Box as my main smoker (I’m in New England and I’m able to BBQ all year round without risking, ya know, dying of frost bite and hypothermia managing a fire all day. But it still allows me to cook with lump charcoal and wood). But to your point, I’m planning on building a drum cooler from scratch in a couple months when it warms up. After doing the research, I was super surprised at how simple it looks. I want to construct something that’s more like a direct heat cooker, and rig it so I can raise the fire basket up for more of a searing experience.
@Andresssp
3 жыл бұрын
@@omcorc old school
@ChrisMinchella
3 жыл бұрын
Do you consider direct cooking over wood coals barbeque? Is there anything you'd do this way other than chicken and maybe steak?
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t ever wanna fit the term in a box. I just think cooking with wood, fire and smoke is where I sit with what it means.
@joeborovina4769
3 жыл бұрын
Joe ,Do you ever use a ir thermometer the point and shoot kind? I have a Fluke a commericial one that i use to see if any electric connections are too hot. I use it to see what are my hot spots on my egg.
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t, but I’m sure it works fine.
@joeborovina4769
3 жыл бұрын
@@knoxavebbq I look & feel very technical ,watching my egg with a poker to make .001 adjustment in my bottom air ,a cigar and that gun in the other hand ... its a skill !!!
@glennevitt5250
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 I Remember this smoker
@knoxavebbq
Жыл бұрын
which one are you talking about?
@roderickminor6165
3 жыл бұрын
Tell what do you think about insulated vault smokers like lonestargrillz IVS?
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
I personally haven’t cooked on one, so I’m sure, but I’ve heard good things from other ppl. I’m just going by what I know. If you’re willing to spend money, I would check out chudsbbq, primitive, workhorse, mil scale, and moberg.
@leefink4305
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Thank you for information what you do very helpful .i am from Chicago too. and i wanna know Please if you can. from where you get/buy your logs?
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
A1 firewood
@leefink4305
3 жыл бұрын
@@knoxavebbq i really Appreciate man Thank you! keep doing what are you doing you are awesome!
@omcorc
3 жыл бұрын
Cabinet smokers aren’t all electric or propane. Back Woods, Lonestar, and Humphrey’s all make solid charcoal fed cabinet smokers.
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
yup. i know. im specifically talking about the electric and gas.
@omcorc
3 жыл бұрын
@@knoxavebbq Gotcha.
@omcorc
3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely turn out some decent eats in an electric or gas powered smoker, but I didn’t realize what I was missing out on until I started smoking with real fire.
@knoxavebbq
3 жыл бұрын
@@omcorc for sure, but it's definitely not the same. lol.
@brianhorst5860
2 жыл бұрын
What do you cook on?
@knoxavebbq
2 жыл бұрын
Yoder kingman and a 1000 gallon primitive
@victorbenner539
Жыл бұрын
This was hard to watch. I'm subscribed to your channel and your normally have some interesting ideas. But this video you would state your opinion then admit you don't have much or any experience with something you just said you didn't like. I believe you should have put a little fore thought into this video before turning on the camera or fixing things in post. For the beginner just say use what you have access to. The best way to determine what kind of cookers you want to get is cook as often as possible and decide what you like and don't like with that equipment and move forward. Always remember we are all different and in the end we need to discover what it is that "we" want as a individual. Don't concern yourself with what others like. After all it's your money your spending. After years of doing outdoors cooking I like many different types of cookers. They all have pros and cons. As to value as in bang for the buck I think vertical smokers are a great place to start. That said when I want a really nice "smoky" brisket and I have time to babysit the smoker I'm going straight to my offset. Have a great day 🌤 😀 🔥👍🍻
@knoxavebbq
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@victorbenner539
Жыл бұрын
@@knoxavebbq I sure hope you didn't miss understand me on my comment earlier. I like your work. It was just this one could have been better. It's hard to give advice to some folks who are begging thier bbq journey. It's a journey of learning and experience. They need to discover their path and that takes time. They are always looking "for the one" The perfect cooker. The perfect meat. The perfect rub. Etc etc etc. So it's a truly difficult thing to try to deal with. 😅 I'm 64 I'm I'm still looking for new things to discover. Enjoy the journey. 😀👍🔥🙏😋🍻
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