If the quarterback is everything, why did Matthew Stafford never win in Detroit but won in Los Angeles finally? It takes more than a QB despite it being such a phenomenally vital and pivotal position to almost every team.
@Pablo-sk3os
8 ай бұрын
At 18:00 this guy talking about how CJ Stroud would be better at Chicago with DJ Moore.. Chicago wouldn’t have DJ Moore if they took CJ Stroud 😂
@MykeyGHarris
8 ай бұрын
Don't think there was a misevaluation of CJ Stroud, Think there was a misevaluation of how good the team and coaching staff really was.
@Darkmagecurt
8 ай бұрын
That team would be ass without stroud. They was worse than us last year.
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
@@Darkmagecurt they have a better coaching staff in Houston
@DoubleMM70
8 ай бұрын
bingo
@user-xo1sf7xg8w
8 ай бұрын
Yup its allllll coaching. Nothing to do with the skill of QB😂😂😂. Frickin cult.
@MykeyGHarris
8 ай бұрын
@@user-xo1sf7xg8w I wouldn’t call the majority of NFL players and fans who support Justin a cult, I lean on the narrative’s that some in the media puts forth are cult like.
@silver33
8 ай бұрын
People keeps saying that the Bears missed on CJ, but if they picked CJ, he would suck here. There would be no OL or WR that he would be playing with. In HU they have a good OL.
@chrislaughlin6598
8 ай бұрын
Pure Justin Fields hate! Cj never wanted to come to the bear he even said in his combine interview it Justin team! SHUT UP ABOUT MISSING OUT ON CJ .
@aross073
8 ай бұрын
Any QB would have failed. I’m 50 and I’ve paid attention to every team bears consisted of. Pure delusion.
@kimchicouple3424
8 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t even make sense to do that. Let’s draft a QB in the first round every year, just in case. C’mon now.
@shake6321
8 ай бұрын
who cares if he wanted to come here.
@chrislaughlin6598
8 ай бұрын
@@shake6321 me personally! Would rather have a guy that want to be a bear, not has to be.
@MasterZhao
8 ай бұрын
Every time someone says something negative about Fields it's "hate". You'd think he was the second coming of Vick/Marino. If he was all that, we wouldn't be still talking about it here in year 3 going into 4. The comparison is apt. They come from the same school, with the same coach, from the same system. One threw for 4000+ yds, took his team to the playoffs and won a playoff game in his first year. The other... And before you say anything, Houston was the worst team in the league last year, and on paper are still not better than the Bears....except at QB 🤣🤣🤣
@mr.t4271
8 ай бұрын
Shut tf up about CJ Stroud. Nobody was talking about CJ last year. Ppl were talking about Bryce Young and Caleb Williams coming out this year. Now you want to use hindsight to criticize. I personally would have chosen CJ out of any qb last year but that wasn’t what the media was talking about
@bodybagbilly
8 ай бұрын
CJ Stroud is doing amazing in part because his team was able to build around him with all of those draft picks. If they drafted him last year, and you had Mooney as his #1 and who knows what stiff as his RT, you would be wondering if he was a bust right now.
@movingtochicagosuburbs
8 ай бұрын
i agree with you... DJ and Wright would not be here. Trade package was a much better deal...
@Trick.Ricky.Sternn
7 ай бұрын
We can’t keep doing this to our selves Justin fields hasnt got the same help as all these other franchises QB just build around him 1 time for 1 year I know if the bears just build the right way for Justin the bears will be the top team for years to come.
@spaceghost8995
7 ай бұрын
Yeah but moron Bears homers claimed Mooney WAS a #1 a year ago! 😂😂😂
@mr.t4271
8 ай бұрын
Bears got a Haul last year can get either a QB or another haul this year. Realistically should have been 10-7 in their record if the defense doesn’t collapse in 3 separate games. The Bears are more than fine after trading the number 1 pick last year.
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
Nah it's all Fields' fault... right
@onlineadvertisingnet
8 ай бұрын
@@MCfact18270 - 6 vs the Packers. How do we win the North if Fields can only pass for 306 yards in two games with 1 TD and 1 interception vs the Packers while Love passes for 545 with 5 TD's and 0 interceptions in comparison. It's a quarterback driven league ... And our quarterback is ranked 23rd in the league. Fields had 8 touchdowns in two games and then 8 touchdowns in 11 other games. Yes he rushed for 4 TD's but he had 4 fumbles that resulted in 2 TD's.
@mylefthook3724
8 ай бұрын
-2 win from Tyson.. justin couldn't win over 5 gms a yr.
@Trick.Ricky.Sternn
7 ай бұрын
@@onlineadvertisingnetokay what has the bears done to help Justin seriously take away DJ Moore n Darnell wright. Take them away what has the bears truly done. Listen man Justin fields didn’t come into the league as running QB he only started running to save his life. The bears failed Justin so far never gave him the oline to learn the speed of the passing game in the nfl that’s the problem Justin doesn’t have a oline to learn passing techniques I’m willing to bet my fucking house on Justin fields if the bears do the right thing to help this kid. Like I said I’m willing to bet my whole fucking house on Justin fields throwing for 4,000 yards next year.
@timothyweatherspoon823
7 ай бұрын
@@onlineadvertisingnethow can we win if the oline can’t hold up or if the receivers can’t get separation on a consistent basis. If you watched the Cowboys game you would see what Justin was going through. Dak looked just like Justin waiting on his receivers to get separation.
@paulhester489
8 ай бұрын
Why can't we just congratulate Houston Texans and new HC Demeco Ryan's ability to get the best out of his team. Offense, defense, special teams are all clicking..
@travis899
8 ай бұрын
Nobody said any of this last year about CJ everyone sits back and have everything to say now. Nobody had a problem even when Young was picked first
@kody6921
8 ай бұрын
Yeah no shit thats how evaluation works. Bears had the first pick and left the draft with a right tackle. Yikes
@juliusblackwell342
8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's funny how they sit here and keep talking like they had CJ Strauss as the lock favorite quarterback coming out of the draft last year when they know they wasn't talking about nothing but that Bryce Young fella
@jasonhaase5172
8 ай бұрын
Nobody was talking about stroud… it was all about baby mahomes as they were labeling young
@saintdominicsrosary
7 ай бұрын
It’s CJ Stroud stupid hater not CJ Strauss
@ExcitedFishWaffle-ud6kd
8 ай бұрын
The fans know what we're talking about. CJ would have been killed under this offensive line. Just like justin was beat up very bad And as far as unconcerned, Justin is just as a good quarterback. As c j with the right offensive game plan.😊
@danielreed2207
8 ай бұрын
If you drafted CJ you wouldn't have DJ
@imo1933
8 ай бұрын
@danielreed2207: *And? Who is DJ Moore compared to CJ Stroud, are you two years old?*
@visual_sanctum
8 ай бұрын
But you would have CJ Stroud...
@danielreed2207
8 ай бұрын
The statement was to their saying if they had drafted CJ you would still have DJ,Mooney and Kmet to throw to, I just pointed out that DJ wouldn't be there.
@danielreed2207
8 ай бұрын
As a Bears fan for the last 60 years your "two years old " remark is almost laughable
@levargreen8858
8 ай бұрын
Jim Caldwell hands down. Look what he did with Detroit. He took over at OC for the Ravens and won the Super Bowl. We 2 years behind because he didn’t hire him. He has the resume. 2 rings that’s what it’s all about. I think he’ll be good for Justin if we decide to keep him.
@bigfootlochness
8 ай бұрын
Personal can be ruined by bad play calling. It doesn’t matter the players of your scheme sucks and play calling is bad.
@johnperry8193
8 ай бұрын
lol this is getting sad. CJ is good yes but he got good coaches to use the talents they have to their best. The Bears had the waterboy for Rodgers for an OC. Scheme and playcalling matters.
@toniahsomers0748
8 ай бұрын
I would trade back and get mhj with him any qb can ball out
@Irving-gp9oc
7 ай бұрын
Great show! I have listened to almost all of your podcasts the entire year! Thanks for the entertaining and informative podcast! I'm a 55+ year Bears fan and great to get your perspectives!
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
@1:58... Davis never said anything about "evading". He just wants a better all around financial situation, in a warmer state.
@JDc108
8 ай бұрын
Seattle had much better receivers than the Bears, yet the Seattle offense wasn’t very good. You can make numbers look better than they really are.
@anthonyvanburen3998
8 ай бұрын
The playoffs clearly showed that quality QB play, a stout O line, and good WRs are a must. The Bears better step up. Stroud and Love are really good.
@Andy-ht1jv
8 ай бұрын
None of y'all said anything about CJ
@toniahsomers0748
8 ай бұрын
Texas didn’t know about cj either
@Ruggerschr
8 ай бұрын
Okay Chicagoland, Here is why you don't move on from JF1. Baker Mayfield and Jalen Hurts. Let me explain. Mayfield comes out of college with all the grit and tools of a star but languishes in Cleveland and Carolina looking like a bust for years until he meets McVay and looks good and then gets a shot on a team that was built to help Tom Brady win. Now he has his team in the second round of the playoffs. On the flipside, Hurts is given accolades as a potential MVP candidate and looks like a world beater on an Eagles team with a great O-line, Receivers like Brown, Smith and Goedert and a stellar Offensive Coordinator in Shane Steichen who leaves to take a head coaching job and hurts looks like, well he looks worse than JF1 this year. Fields has the tools and athleticism and most importantly he has the drive and temperament to be our star QB. We have a chance to build around him over the next two years with incredible draft capital and a GM that is showing he can find talent. The Bears future with JF1 is so bright it is blinding as long as they can bring in a talented and creative OC who can call plays, which Getsy was not. And idiots in Chicago talking about trading JF1 for a pittance to take a chance on a prima donna like Williams? And you all want to drop him because Love got to stand in a pristine pocket and throw to wide open receivers for the past two games. We don't deserve nice things! Any argument that CJ Stroud is a reason to take a QB, realize that 90% of the teams in the NFL who tried to do that last year would have ended up with Young.
@genesisrodrigo8583
8 ай бұрын
Shapiro forgets if we drafted CJ Stroud that we would not have DJ Moore.
@carolesuydam585
8 ай бұрын
KD is so right about throwing over the middle. Do that or fail.
@user-ui2pc1mm4e
8 ай бұрын
Saying you would take just CJ Stroud over Stevenson, Wright and Moore, you sir, have not done your homework
@Guccifinesse
7 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the number 1 overall pick this year which should turn into 3 more picks and mhj and a second round pick next year these are Caleb nut huggers 😂 and they always pre empt it by saying I love Justin field 😂
@heartmatters701
8 ай бұрын
Don’t be surprised if Miami comes calling for Justin Fields. Imagine what McDaniels can do with his pure athleticism? Justin needs an offensive genius like McDaniels.
@christiansolid1702
8 ай бұрын
Imagine The guy in Chicago telling people Florida is the crazy town 🤣🤣🤣.
@kimchicouple3424
8 ай бұрын
Bears drafting CJ is such a ridiculous take. What, Bears are gonna draft every QB each year because they think he might be better? Get real.
@dj2prince
8 ай бұрын
Hey Alex…Houston has the superior O line
@caseyl9906
8 ай бұрын
Will be interesting to see how Hendon Hooker picks up stuff from Goff and how his game will translate to NFL once and hopefully he recovers from the injury and we can see him on the field.
@speedybigd33
8 ай бұрын
CJ stroud wouldn’t have had DJ Moore if the bears drafted him…so don’t really understand that reasoning on why stroud would perform well in chicago
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
@4:48 I've read where Waldron throws a lotta screens
@Gray_Bush
8 ай бұрын
I think it's doubtful Bevel leaves Miami. He's expected to take over for Frank Smith if he leaves. Remember, he also declined OC interviews last year to stay in Miami as QB Coach/Pass Game Coordinator.
@sni6941
8 ай бұрын
Green Bay and Lions are going to the next round and Bears played them tough except first game. So Bears is not far behind, we just need 3 impact players to be in playoffs next season : center, #2 WR, Safety , It would be better is we add a DTackle, and a guard. We can do that with 2 top 10 picks and sign 2 top free agents.
@saintdominicsrosary
7 ай бұрын
😂😂 that’s some bullshit pretzel logic you just used if my aunt was a man she’d be my uncle STFU 🤡 the Bears aren’t close to anything but the bottom of the NFC north
@johnperry8193
8 ай бұрын
We would not have drafted CJ. If you remember who was the consensus #1 was? Get real with this line of talk.
@JDc108
8 ай бұрын
The Bears had better offensive numbers than the Seahawks. Why would we even consider Waldron.
@captain1jones354
7 ай бұрын
Amazing how these experts can revise history and get absolutely no pushback from the hosts. No wonder they like going on certain shows.
@bg147
8 ай бұрын
There was no way they were going to draft a QB last year. The fans and media would have run them out of town.
@Irving-gp9oc
7 ай бұрын
And what's with Eastern Illinois University football? Mike Shanahan, Sean Payton, Tony Romo, Jimmy G, John (Jurko) Jurkovich....alot of football smarts notably on the Offensive side of the ball!
@Kwyzdapo3t
8 ай бұрын
Yall got hindsight syndrome if the bears took cj stroud and his so called elite processing who was he gon throw to? How bout the defense lol
@spaceghost8995
7 ай бұрын
WE WERE TOLD that Getsy was going to install a 49Rs type blocking and running scheme. We never saw any of that. FB Blasingame wasn't even used much at all.
@kenzelross627
7 ай бұрын
If you take Cj stroud you don’t have a Dj Moore all you have is Moon and Eq maybe Tyler Scott and you also don’t get Darnell wright who hoisted up are line all season I think poles made the best decisions
@micahwillis7655
8 ай бұрын
I guess they forgot what CJ Stroud said in the interview leading up to the draft 🙄
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
"Fields' team"....he said
@RonScibilia
8 ай бұрын
If a scout can't evaluate accuracy, processing, and talent pool what is he/she evaluating?
@paulsantiago9630
8 ай бұрын
Eagles played like the Bears tonight 😂
@Andy-ht1jv
8 ай бұрын
If you would trade all we got for cj, i think your clowns. Glad you're not making the calls for my bears.
@dreflo949
8 ай бұрын
I get CJ Stroud is good 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽but look at what they put around him stop thinking if we would’ve drafted him that could’ve been us 🤦🏽♂️ no please stop thinking that we don’t have a system in Chicago for a QB to succeed
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
They should briin Pep Hamilton, who's had QB development experience ( Luck & Herbert)and play calling experience. Others include Bienemy, Byron Leftwich and Frank Reich. If they're gonna bring in someone like Coen who's never called plays, they should look at Jerrod Johnson, Stroud's QB coach and former NFL Qb
@elliotworix6851
8 ай бұрын
We need in game play caller
@Trick.Ricky.Sternn
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning that Justin wasn’t intentionally a running QB only reason why Justin fields started running was to save his life yes he has problems holding onto the ball but we never really gave Justin the needs to learn to get the ball out quick that requires skilled players.
@donpearson2076
8 ай бұрын
Yes Nico Collins and Dell are better then Claypool and both are about on par with a healthy/ happy Mooney.
@Trick.Ricky.Sternn
7 ай бұрын
The bears need to focus on being the best nfc north team if we can win 4/6 games in the division every year that’s really good because you can get 6 wins strictly just from division games. So if the bears can focus on just winning 3 or more division games we will be just fine.
@Agentlowe
8 ай бұрын
All these QBs in the discussion are capable and talented. Mahomes would not be Mahomes in Chicago, just like CJ wouldnt have had the same impact in Chicago this year. Mahomes and CJ both had ALL-PRO lineman, and Pro Bowlers mixed in. Mahomes literally had arguably two of the best weapons ever in Kelce and Tyrek, and CJ had 6'4 Nico Collins who had just as good of a year as DJ Moore with 1300 yds and 8tds, and Tank Dell was on his way to 1000+ and prob 12-14TD considering he went down at 700yds 7tds in a 11 games. At the end of the day, the bears were a couple of bad calls away from being a playoff team this year. The defense showed up after the Sweat trade. At one point they gave up 20+ points in 15 consecutive games.
@1979bturner
7 ай бұрын
Come to Orlando you will love it!!!
@user-ij7xv5xi4n
8 ай бұрын
The diff. Is between slowik and getsy
@user-dn8by2wk6o
7 ай бұрын
CJ has worse personnel around him??? I think his O-line is like top 3 in the league. He Hasan amazing OC, and his receivers get separation so he can throw those amazing passes. Remember Bagent tried to throw anticipatory in this offense as well and it waspick city
@christiansolid1702
8 ай бұрын
The quarterback touches the ball on EVERY PLAY … NOT MHJ. NOT DJ MOORE, NOT ANY RUNNING BACK.. thats why getting the QB right is important
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
17:35 ya stick with Fields. Ya don't waste a 1st round pick on a QB and start over. You surround Fields and the defense with what they need.
@jzbricks7152
8 ай бұрын
Tank Dell and Nico Collins are miles better than EQ Brown and Daunte Pettis. Stroud would not have had Moore if they never traded the pick. Do your homework!
@franzdoreza5230
7 ай бұрын
The Bears gave up 17 points and scored nine against the Packers in Green Bay… That means the Bears are a better team than the Cowboys as far as I’m concerned, they are a team on the rise, give them more experience, let Justin have his four years, give him more weapons, better protection, better playcalling, and there’s no reason why the Bears can’t be just as good as the Packers or lions… Their defense is already up there because 17 points is pretty good, they just had problems blocking the Packers and Justin didn’t have time to throw the ball, you give him a couple more receivers, better protection and the Bears are right there with the lions and the Packers.so you don’t start over again… That is just stupid
@keithevans0407
7 ай бұрын
What about Darrell Bevel?🤔
@donpearson2076
8 ай бұрын
Stroud was the best QB coming out last year; what were people missing. Has he had a great year , yes but that’s why is it a huge surprise.
@mylefthook3724
8 ай бұрын
Bc Justin looks so bad after coming out of the same school.
@dilloncurrier
8 ай бұрын
The best city in Florida with things to do and a nice downtown and beach is St Pete by far.
@cliffcornelius6067
7 ай бұрын
Illinois doesn’t tax retirement income
@dwaynesockwell2896
8 ай бұрын
What success would he had with no wrs bad o-line bad defense
@jasonhaase5172
8 ай бұрын
Uhm shrock we wouldn’t have dj Moore if we took cj stroud…
@qintel1505
7 ай бұрын
The difference between c.j. and fields is the coaching staff. Fields lost 4 games in college with same coach's as c.j.. bears OC didn't know how to adjust. Screen,,screen, screen.
@chrismalone337
8 ай бұрын
Gary Kubiak senior advisor Klint OC win win
@JDc108
8 ай бұрын
Fortunately you guys don’t make decisions. All Chicago writers just babble on and on
@tobinfrost4400
8 ай бұрын
I use to like this group but now they starting to be very irritating!!!
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
3:17... He took over on November 20
@movingtochicagosuburbs
8 ай бұрын
Misevaluation of CJ wasnt a mistake. Poles just took a better deal...I take DJ Moore, Darnel Wright, Stevenson and potential to draft Caleb Williams over CJ Stoud anytime. @AlexShapiro If they drafted CJ Stroud they would not have DJ Moore to throw to or Darnell Wright to block for him. would be another wasted 1st round pick under Getsy's coaching
@Spice_Titan
8 ай бұрын
Texans have a better o line... stud LT stud play caller
@juliusblackwell342
8 ай бұрын
And ignore the facts that say one out of every four quarterbacks in the first round becomes a superstar in the nfl
@bigdaddy2706
8 ай бұрын
Whats crazy about Florida? Did I miss something?
@samuelcotton3864
8 ай бұрын
No u are wrong Stroud did not make everyone better. Coaching made most put him in position to make the plays and he did
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
@12:00... Right I don't see Roman. I don't want to see Fields used as "wishbone QB", taking hits.
@psygolf7120
8 ай бұрын
The problem is Getsy & Flus…Getsy was coaching the sidelines when Tank Dell lit up the Senior Bowl. So, either he has no eye for talent, or Flus needs to stop hogging the draft picks to save his *ss. Coaching has ruined Fields up to this point, throwing mechanics, feel from the pocket. His metrics equal/better than Stroud’s against ranked opponents…Stroud had no rushing component as an added value. Bears do not deserve good things.
@estevongonzalez5530
7 ай бұрын
Alex we wouldn’t have DJ Moore if we drafted CJ Stroud. Nico Collins and Tank Dell are better than Mooney and Claypool… that’s what we had and it’s not good
@tastyfishsauce4410
7 ай бұрын
With the candidates that the Bears are interviewing/interviewed, they will end up with who ever does not get an offer. Bargain basement baby! If one of the requirements is working with JF, the candidate would surely know that it is an interim job and will be looking for a new one next year. Keeping Flus limited the candidate pool, forcing a QB will limit it more and who's willing to take the job, hence bargain basement. Someone said that, "if you fire your HC, how many teams are going to compete in hiring him"? Those analist that think JF is the one, prove it by convincing a QB needy team to trade for him with a 1st round pick. We will see what happens in Arpil.
@Twan435
8 ай бұрын
Da bears defense has. An off gm vs gb every game
@anthonymccullum2849
8 ай бұрын
The internet got any and everybody having an expert opinion
@Guccifinesse
7 ай бұрын
Dude is supposed to be a bears reporter but says CJ would of had Moore 😅 uhh is he just pushing a narrative so we can trade H1M and draft her 💅
@DannyPella-n4z
7 ай бұрын
But the bears hammered the Lions twice.
@lmacthephoenix
7 ай бұрын
The Misevaluation of CJ is the most hindsight B.S. I have heard this off-season. No one was talking about this kid being this good Last year this time and it was almost a consensus that Young was better. The jury is still out. CJ could regress next year and how do we know the Texans evaluated Stroud. I am willing to bet they looked at measurables and got lucky. This doesn't mean the Bears will get it right but still, this is garbage logic. 🤬 Lazy take.
@Jonnyquest1971
8 ай бұрын
That is a ridiculous argument, just cuz a Qb has success, bears fans always say we should have drafted him. Complete b.s. if the Bears would have drafted Mahomes he would have been a bust in Chicago and that goes 4 stroud as well. U have to have goo coaching and a good environment to succeed, the Bears have not had one. We've had poor offensive lineman and poor coaching for years. Whether u like cutler or not he had no weapons and a bad offensive line. That is the Bears mo.
@CRubey23
8 ай бұрын
GL beating the chiefs. They have the most talented QB ever, who is already a top 3-4QB ever, and they have a great defense. If the pass catchers decide to catch the ball consistently instead of dropping it they’re going back-to-back.
@jeromiemunoz2920
8 ай бұрын
They wouldn't have Moore for Stroud. Mooney would've been the number one and scrubs for the rest of the WRS. You need a good team before adding a QB like this year not last year.
@donaldmckendree1855
8 ай бұрын
Am I hearing a lack of altruism?
@mylefthook3724
8 ай бұрын
Who gonna want to work for Flus and who will be QB 🤷♂️🤦♂️they will end up with a rookie coach like always
@bradleynabors4059
7 ай бұрын
Wow. Middle of the season Tua's an MVPslinger. Now he needs to be replaced by Cousins. Flip, floppy flippers are the media.
@Dr.Jekyll
7 ай бұрын
If you leave a D state and move to an R state, you better leave your politics behind.
@dnice33
7 ай бұрын
Fields fans are ridiculous
@vipsignlive
7 ай бұрын
Chicago's Media is toxic and obsessed with early success. With al due respect to the Texans, is not the same being a QB for the Texans than being the QB for the bears. Now why we always compare to others teams, why!!!!!. If we have drafted Stroud that would not mean having the same results like the Texans. Please, open your eyes....
@drdoerder
7 ай бұрын
I have a hard time listening to these guys. They are such fair-weather fans...
@user-dh3dy9yi7b
7 ай бұрын
Fire fields draft McCarthy first round pic
@imo1933
8 ай бұрын
*All the Justin Fields fans just need to know that Caleb Williams was a better college QB than C J Stroud as far as talent and QB metric skills go, they're not even close, passing on Williams would be passing on a more talented player and a project potentially better Pro in Williams.*
@MCfact1827
8 ай бұрын
At this point Fields is better than anyone in college. The OC was proven to be the problem
@TheLordNugget
8 ай бұрын
Uh, IL has no room to talk. Chicago's nickname should be Arkham Asylum.
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