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@MrClassicor
9 ай бұрын
One thing I find *amazing* ib these Old World battle reports that have started to show up: The players seem to never stop smiling! 😁 So good to have the game back
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Nostalgia at its finest kicking in 😆
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Honestly still smiling since the report haha
@deepfriedjonny90
9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you said this. I have no nostalgia for the old world as I've only been in the hobby for a few years.... But the fact everyone seems to be genuinely having great fun is making me feel like I need to play this 😂
@MrClassicor
9 ай бұрын
@@deepfriedjonny90 It's part nostalgia, part seeing a game on its 9th iteration. Hard to tell without having played it yet myself, but it does look like a fun game to play with or without nostalgia goggles 😁
@robnoel9306
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, because they aren't oaying for new armies at today's prices. I'd be Happy too.
@daitrigger179
9 ай бұрын
Brings tears to my eyes seeing WFB back no matter what time frame
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
So nice to see isn’t it
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Totally agree, it’s childhood nostalgia but reborn! I’m in my element
@ВладимирБурба-ш2щ
9 ай бұрын
I happy to see my favorite game again.I'm fifty. And now I'm blowing up the dust from my four FB armies after ten years of calm and looking at shops for some new bottles of paint - the old ones dried alredy)))
@deviljon
9 ай бұрын
@@ВладимирБурба-ш2щ try army painter speed paints. They're absolutely fantastic.
@EyebrowsGaming
9 ай бұрын
MY BOYS Diehard Beastmen fan here, Ive been looking everywhere for a Battle report in the Old World featuring my favourite goats! Keep up the great content!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Glad you hear buddybeastman
@zlobzor
9 ай бұрын
Nice report, and good to see something other than Bretts vs TK! Couple of things, you weren't counting Close Order bonus for combat res (though most of the time it didn't matter), push back from 2 units is diagonal, but your angle stays the same, and no need to roll for "pursuing" into Fall Back in Good Order. It's much easier to remember stuff when you are watching than playing!
@khristienpennanen1810
9 ай бұрын
Magic in the front arc as well!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yer it’s a totally different experience playing with a camera in your hand as you have to produce entertaining content, talk all the time, think what’s coming next etc While also making sure the shots are good and you interact with your opponent so the viewer feels like they’re getting the same experience! Love doing it though haha
@anderslundtoft2315
9 ай бұрын
May we take ward save after armor save? or is it only the highest of the 2? @@sn_dc
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
@@anderslundtoft2315 you can take both! 🙂
@Seven_Other_Mysteries
8 ай бұрын
I'm confused about the "...no need to roll for 'pursuing' into Fall Back in Good Order." Why wouldn't you roll for that? I'm aware you don't need to roll for the Give Ground situation. page 156 says that we need to pursue and tells you how to roll the pursuit for Fall Back in Good Order.
@whiteslann9154
9 ай бұрын
So many years of waiting and it’s finally here, good luck guys
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
You legend! Luv ya
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Hope your enjoy bro!! We’ve got it back!
@whiteslann9154
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc It was awesome, although I was crying when you said Phoenix guard still have fear and you forgot!
@IronDuke_xX
9 ай бұрын
This was a really excellent battle report, love you giving quick simple rules explanations on the fly and not beinf afraid to replay certain moves and explain your mistakes. Brilliant. Also thoroughly enjoyed seeing elves show up with all their best units and get absolutely rocked by the cruel twists of fate and dodgy dice haha
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@jacekay6031
9 ай бұрын
Your battle report pacing, vibes, editing etc are all excellent. It's understandable that you get a few things wrong with a new game, don't beat yourself up; that will come with time. The important stuff is already here.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Thanks boss
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! ❤And yer was conscious of making sure the rules were correct, but knowing it’ll be hard not to miss something!
@ZombieBrainsDev
9 ай бұрын
I'm super excited to play Beastmen now. I'm sad they didn't get Marks besides divided but they got enough awesome flavorful rules to make up for it.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yer I agree and sadly no god-aligned Bestigors anymore but still plenty of flavour as you say 😊
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Yeah sad they missed that
@johnbailey8567
9 ай бұрын
My assumption would be in the Arcane Journal that will be an option!
@MadSpaceWolfDiary
9 ай бұрын
@johnbailey8567 would suspect so. Afterall so.e of those models still exist i guess. We didnt wait so long to get official tzanngors just to never use em lol
@cjanquart
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc Agreed; my Pestigor used to march alongside Morghur (but not too close) and cause all sorts of mayhem.
@Jleot
9 ай бұрын
First time to the channel, yall were the first group I saw to play my favs the high elves. Well done lads and I very much enjoy the narrated intro. It was a very nice touch!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! More High Elf reports coming in the future for sure - I have a bigger High Elf force just need to get it finished and off the pile of shame 😅
@Durgil2000
9 ай бұрын
Nice battle report with painted armies! One thing though, the Phoenix Guards cause Fear themselves, so they would have been immune to the Minotaur Fear, and would not have needed to test to make the charge.
@borgCube100
9 ай бұрын
The Phoenix Guard were mascaraed. Not by the Minotaurs, by GW themselves lol.
@AuthorSurrogate
9 ай бұрын
@@borgCube100 As a High Elf player, they were probably a little much. At least this way I don’t have to be self policing about playing them.
@borgCube100
9 ай бұрын
@@AuthorSurrogate 4+ ward? MAYBE too much - armour saves were crap in 8th edition, and they are still only toughness 3. They were one of the best units, but SOMEONE had to have them. I agree tho, nerf away. But a 6+ ward against non-magical attacks seems a little too nerfy, given their mediocre offensive capabilities (again, puny Elves lol) and T3 - they just seem too over priced to be used when you have I7, WS9 S6 magical attacking Killing Blow Swordmasters or White-Lions that just melt armour and both are cheaper. I'm just venting - their fear mixed with random stuff could make them good so we just have to wait and see.
@gemmell761
9 ай бұрын
@@borgCube100 come play Wood Elves with light/zero armour
@borgCube100
9 ай бұрын
@@gemmell761 Aye but that faction is DESIGNED around that. The HE's have fighty troops, meant to be stuck in and - perhaps - the "greatest martial force" in the world. Plus y'all have Treekin and Treemen as anvils.
@johnchiotis4323
9 ай бұрын
How exciting to see Beastmen!!! Instead of Bretonnians vs Tomb Kings! Amazing Battle report and I haven't even started it :p
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@johnchiotis4323
9 ай бұрын
It was great
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
More to come John!
@battle_dave
9 ай бұрын
That's the main reason I came here!
@andrewbakescakes9684
9 ай бұрын
Old World Hype! Waiting for Orcs, or possibly Dwarfs, to get their release.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Got both of those lined up for reports! 😊
@andrewbakescakes9684
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc - Nice! Looking forward to it!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Great choices
@thezeevy
9 ай бұрын
WAAAAAAGH!!!!!!
@Weary_Wizard
9 ай бұрын
god! not only has old worlds returned, but an edition where the meta wasnt 2 MASSIVE units and 1 tiny unit of core
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Good times
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
I know it‘s nice to have armies back on the table and not 1-2 big bricks of units haha
@Weary_Wizard
9 ай бұрын
i've no idea what happened to change the meta, but god damn im glad armies are armies again @@sn_dc
@iestyn11
9 ай бұрын
I hope DC, you have the big names to show in future for the High Elves. Tyrion, Imrik, Teclis, Alarielle, Alith Anar or Eltharion would be super cool to see as I play them a lot in Total War
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Ah well on the book they aren’t there! I assume named characters will arrive in the High Elf Arcane Journal 😊
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
♥️
@robnixon8832
9 ай бұрын
Due to the timeline I wouldn’t think those characters (bar alith) would be getting rules. Tyrion and Teclis were still children in their father’s villa, Allarielles mother was still everqueen.
@swh1964
9 ай бұрын
@@robnixon8832 We would finally get the Phoenix King. Yep, this is pre Finuvial Plain, so no powerful Tyrion and Teclis and just 120 year old kids, as you write.
@borgCube100
9 ай бұрын
@@robnixon8832 They are still good warriors by that point (Tyrion and Teclis). It isn't until the Finnuvial Plain that they get their special gear. They are more "up and coming" than "species saving champions". Eltharion might be older - elves and their ages, same with Imrick. Allariel for sure wouldn't be the Everqueen unless with have a change to lore.
@Ephesians-6-12.
9 ай бұрын
Practically immortal, centuries trained soldiers failing 90% of their dice rolls. That takes me back...
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
No matter how immortal, the dice gods decide our fate 😂
@sinthorasalb5467
9 ай бұрын
Damn I feel like I'm 18 again. Great job on the battle report, I really like your style of presenting - you managed to get the pacing just right. And I really like how you filmed the movement, with blocks moving around the camera angle from the side works great to show whats going on. Guess I need to dig some boxes out of the basement
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear
@MrClassicor
9 ай бұрын
Rules question (don't have the book yet) about maximizing in close combat: In the first High elf charge (the one that ended up not happening because of fear), first the chariot was moved, then the infantry. Both were then later shoved around to the side so that the maximum number of infantry models were in contact, to the point were the chariot wasn't even maximized anymore. I have seen similar things done in older editions, but I don't think that was ever actually in the rules. You had to maximize the potential numbers of models *during your charge move*, using your pivot but otherwise move the most direct route. You could also touch a corner and pivot into the enemy. If you ended up having another unit in the way (like the chariot) or just didn't have the charge range or the wrong angle and had some models hanging over the sides unable to fight, that was something you had to live with. Why does that matter? Because a) that way both the order in which you do your charges and your precise unit placement are important and b) when you push around units to where they are not supposed to go, you can push them out of command and other ranges they should be in. EDIT: Don't all models in the front ranks get to fight anyway in Old World? That would make shoving them around superfluous, but still screw with things like command range etc So my question is: Do the rules in Old World say that you have to use your actual charge move (plus pivot) to try and get as many models into combat as you can, or do they say you just have to touch the enemy unit and then get to push them up? I'd be fine either way, I'm just curious what the "official" rule for that is. And it does make a difference in game.
@Ethnarches
9 ай бұрын
I think they did it wrong, especially since in the Old World the full front rank gets to attack, if some are not in base to base they get to do max 1 supporting attack, but anyway due to that there’s less need to wrangle the units like that. You move one charging unit at a time, maximize it, then move the next and maximize on what's left. I don't have the rules, but based on other battle reports and rules reviews I think it works like it used to in 6th at least, I'm not familiar with 8th. I might be wrong, maybe you maximize all the units after moving charges, but I doubt it.
@MrClassicor
9 ай бұрын
@@Ethnarches That's how I would expect that to work. But who knows, it might have found its way into the rules? Well, not much longer and we can look that up ourselves 😁
@Green_Phos
9 ай бұрын
@@MrClassicor The Old World battle report on Tabletop Tactics clearly state that the rules say you must get as many models into contact. From what I could gather there's no pile in/consolidation movement like in 40k. If you charge you must get as many models into base contact as possible.
@MrClassicor
9 ай бұрын
@@Green_Phos Yes, with your charge move, not after the fact, right? As many models as you can move in with your movement range. Pushing them in after would be a kind of pile in move, which doesn't exist; I had not considered that. Thank you 🙂
@Green_Phos
9 ай бұрын
@@MrClassicor As they played it, yes, part of the charge move.
@aaronsomerville2124
9 ай бұрын
Excellent report! I am starting High Elves so it was great to see them in action.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Keep us up to date with the army progress 😊
@GZTakosh
9 ай бұрын
Where did you guys get these awesome movement trays with base expanders? I checked elementgames but couldn't find them ? Great battle report!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Check el gante elegante
@fredrikstolt5510
9 ай бұрын
Wonderfull to see High Elves! I really appreciate you guys explaining in good order whats going on. Was really helpfull with the release of 40k 10th edition, and now looking forward to more of these battle reports.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Garsty
9 ай бұрын
I really do miss my Dark Elves 😢
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Yeah such a cool Army!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Get them back Garsty! Very cool army
@MrGunnar177
9 ай бұрын
You can still play them! You don’t even have to buy the army book!
@adamsboringvids
9 ай бұрын
Don’t just play them.
@idiotproofdalek
9 ай бұрын
Bet your opponents don’t!
@Perkustin
9 ай бұрын
Good Battle, the Beastmen are absolutely exquisite and your High Elves are very nice DC, though i think like me you are hoping we get access to some of the nicer old kits to bolster the ranks of some of your smaller units. I thought you were in real trouble DC (well, you were) but you managed to do pretty well in the end, Dragons/Monstrous Mounts look absolutely devastating, Chaos Lords will be a force to be reckoned with, However big blocks of Resilient Infantry still look pretty dominant.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! ❤ And I totally agree with what you said, fingers crossed we get some of the older kits! My High Elves need a boost! Haha
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Champ
@The_Captain40k
9 ай бұрын
Spearmen and archers would be top of my wish list. No more ham handed elves please!
@dawidkoziorowski7103
9 ай бұрын
Great report ! Thanks ! I have few questions though. Dragon Princes charge - why horses didnt attack? why no outnumber bonus for DP? Wouldnt it be better not to pursue the chariot with DP after 2nd round of combat, so you can charge in your turn just to get +2 S lance bonus?
@davidcormode2700
9 ай бұрын
Great battle report! I am wondering how you view magic - are you thinking about using more magicians in future to give more dispell coverage?
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
That’s a great point David I think 2 might become the norm? I’m not 100% convinced on this style of magic just yet - more games to play before I make my mind up haha and thanks for the support! ❤
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Donation
@bat33.12
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc I have to agree with that DC, magic feels very flat it's just a game of 2D6, no real tactics to it like the older versions, trying to balance risk/reward by adding extra dice made it a gambe and gave the feel that magic was a powerful tool but fickle and more than capable of turning your level 1 caster inside out for his cheek at trying to cast on 4D6
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
@@bat33.12 yer 100% there was a lot of fun with casting in WHFB but also as you say a lot of risk! I’ll give it some more time and games under my belt and maybe try more than one wiz!
@alfadasfire
8 ай бұрын
High elves are pretty cool, and the super bright blue fits really well! Beastmen looking great too, love the bestigors.
@SNBattleReports
8 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Obscureminator
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing! Can I ask where you got those slotted movement trays?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
El Gante elegante buddy
@PointyPaints
9 ай бұрын
happy days, first battle report and my high elves are on show, sweet!!!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy!! Here for any Q’s 😊
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Enjoy my friend
@AsaWagner
9 ай бұрын
Glad to see a batrep without Tomb Kings or Brets, subscribing for more!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yer we have a bunch of armies so more to come
@Magicka24
8 ай бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm, I love seeing this Old World content, I pray this game lasts a good long while.
@SNBattleReports
8 ай бұрын
Enjoy my friend
@warpmaster1597
9 ай бұрын
I could be wrong ,but i think the bolt thrower shot doesnt stop with a failed penetration in the new rules .
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
You’re correct! At least that’s how me and Chris played it recently in a new report - I was playing the old way 😅 not that it did anything! Stupid bolt thrower 😂
@warpmaster1597
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc they were such dog shit in the old edition. Much improved now imo.
@TheMrSlize
9 ай бұрын
When you declare charges and responses, you do it for all units and then roll dice. So that you cant change reaction based on charge roll for other units etc.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
This is true, if we did it otherwise probably just not thinking while recording etc
@gekalskip
9 ай бұрын
the forced breaking when losing your leadership test in combat against an enemy more than double your unit strength is amazing, such a good rule to decrease the power of chaff. Such a pity they decided to still give the beastmen chariot 3 different attack profiles (gor, ungor and tuskgor) to resolve ... so unneccesary and a waste of time.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
I love the new losing combat changes, it creates more flavour than the simple - you lose and get run down!
@lilintern
9 ай бұрын
Question: oh your high elf mage how did you chose your spells did you take 2 signatures? which would replace 2 randomly chosen ones from another available lore?
@DarkKnightCuron
9 ай бұрын
Absolutely loving the Old World :D Please keep doing more of these!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
More to come!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
More will come for sure!! ❤
@sdasda5175
9 ай бұрын
GG! Where did you get those movement trays?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
elganteelegante
@MachineTeen
9 ай бұрын
Are you allowed to measure distance before a charge now? PS LOVE the Battle Report. Love to see Wood Elves next. =)
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Hey yes you can! It’s like 8th edition in that way. And wood Elves we hope to have on soon!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Correct!
@MachineTeen
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc I didn't get to play that much 8th edition. Only a few games here and there.
@wpeaston
9 ай бұрын
Loving this enthusiasm for the old world, getting me so hyped, brilliant batrep. I have mentally planned: Rebasing/repainting Empire Army, Rebasing/repainting Chaos Warriors/ new goblin army 3D printed / new vampire army with AOS models. I also have absolutely 0 hobby time to do it 😂
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
😂 glad you enjoyed the game! I’m sure that if you plan it well all can be achieved
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’m drowning in the amount of time I need to get more armies ready for reports etc I need another me to paint more! 😅
@malekiththeeternityking5433
9 ай бұрын
Time to pull out my old Bretonnians and Dark Elves
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yessss do it!! What you got?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Awesome! Enjoy the nostalgia
@malekiththeeternityking5433
9 ай бұрын
I have about 4000 points if Bretonnians and about 6000 points of Dark Elves, led by mommy dearest and her grumpy son.
@malekith13
9 ай бұрын
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 too bad your dark elves won't receives any support from GW beside the game release free rules ^^
@acidnine3692
8 ай бұрын
Love to see a dragon do something. My dragon in KoW did nothing most of the time, so it's fun seeing what they could do!
@SNBattleReports
8 ай бұрын
They are very strong
@TheBlightspawn
9 ай бұрын
Beastmen! That takes me back.. 🎉
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yer it was so much fun!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
So so cool
@yesiamarussianbot3076
9 ай бұрын
Can't wait to launch the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhh again in the old world.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Waaaaaghhh
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
I know we have an Orcs & Goblins game coming up! 😊
@yesiamarussianbot3076
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc Amazing I hope you can get Ghaz back on the channel and also do some 40K orks again
@titiustatius7926
9 ай бұрын
what a blast, you guys! Great game, great rolling by DC (hilarious right?), great seeing chris stirring chaos. thank you. #NoRetreatOldWorld
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Thanks as always bro! And yer that bolt thrower 😂😂 cursed
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Jcoburn134
9 ай бұрын
I still have nightmares about a regular player who would run the banner of the world dragon in every list.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Haha so good
@timo-d4672
9 ай бұрын
Great to see both (Chris! ❤) playing Old World, looking forward to more beastmen deaths in the future! 😉 Oh and theres a reason why its traditional to always take two rbts 😂
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Glad your enjoyed Timo! And yer it was playing recording with Chris ❤
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Haha 😂
@Seven_Other_Mysteries
8 ай бұрын
Another thing I noticed. The Bestigors should not have received the rank bonus during their first few fights. Due to having more depth than width, they were in marching order and not in Close Order. The same happened for the Gors for their first rounds. The Ungors were also set up that way but lost enough models to not be penalized for it in combat.
@SNBattleReports
8 ай бұрын
Yeah we missed a few things on our first game thanks for pointing them out
@dearberlin
9 ай бұрын
Sorry for asking, but where do you get the rules for all of this? On the warhammer site I can only see pre-orders and "not available".
@TheHunch8ack
9 ай бұрын
Nice report, thanks. Quite nostalgic! What’s the battlemat? Looks nice.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the Mat is from pworks
@TheHunch8ack
9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, I thought it might be. I've got a few of them. Nice, aren't they? Good luck with any further dives into TOW. I may have to dust off my 90's High Elves and Orcs!@@SNBattleReports
@Ariastes707
9 ай бұрын
Hey! Great battle report! but a few questions! I've heard people talking about the countercharge rule as a charge option could the minotaurs and chariot turn 2 not countercharge?
@airjamy
9 ай бұрын
I love that in the game review, you didnt mention the Dragon basically solo winning the game XD? Dragons seem really strong with their counter, cannons, being gone.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
😂
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Well! I’d say it was also those unbreakable spearmen unit helped hold the centre and those Bestigors from eating most of my other units (and getting him points) but I agree the Dragon was super strong! I didn’t know how strong though haha 😅
@airjamy
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc i mean they helped for sure, but the dragon swinging the lost flank and killing the Cygor was what ended the game. he killed.like 500 points I think? I mean holding the center is nice but it doesn't directly score you points.
@Stonehorn
9 ай бұрын
for panic, it has to be MORE than 25%. Also, you move an extra d3 with Swift Stride, not D6.
@Na_bro_leon
9 ай бұрын
Not true! Swiftstride increases your max charge range by 3" and you MAY add a d6 to charge/flee.
@Stonehorn
9 ай бұрын
@@Na_bro_leon may add a D3 from what MWG explained.
@Na_bro_leon
9 ай бұрын
@@Stonehorn I've seen the page from other youtubers. It's d6!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
@@Na_bro_leoncorrect! It’s 3” increase and D6
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Hey buddy, it’s not like this it’s 3” and an extra d6. Hope you enjoyed the game
@cax3337
9 ай бұрын
Bit of an offside question from the new/old hotness but: Where is that terrain from?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
The Rock formations are custom made and the ruins are an old Spanish company that used to do them. Sadly can’t get them anymore
@cax3337
9 ай бұрын
@@SNBattleReports Thanks anyway! They look great
@warpaintjj
9 ай бұрын
Great to see Fantasy back on the menu. It’s going to be interesting to see where unit sizes settle down to over time 🤔
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Agreed! I think that we’re going to see maybe more than one caster in a lot of lists perhaps? And I don’t think huge bricks of units as the rank bonus are capped! Unless they cause fear then bigger units will help
@JohnStoneArt
9 ай бұрын
Those trays you are using to bring the miniatures into the new dimensions, where can I get those? Was there a mention of them?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Those are printed but you can get them from elgantelegante
@JohnStoneArt
9 ай бұрын
@@SNBattleReports Legendary, thanks so much!
@the-batcave6793
9 ай бұрын
This was excellent. One thing to point out is that you declare all charges then opponent can react.
@combustable6522
9 ай бұрын
I'm still suprised the Beastmen made it into supported armies for ToW rather than Skaven or Vampire Counts
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Yeah same as we think it’s a weird one
@zargonfuture4046
9 ай бұрын
@@SNBattleReportsperhaps it's all about what is in production miniatures wise? They have quiet a bit available for Beastmen.
@benjaminlalka8595
9 ай бұрын
First time viewer. Great battle report! There is definitely grace for the minor rule mistakes. Will definitely be watching more old world from you guys. Thanks for the vid.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@6St6Jimmy6
9 ай бұрын
Btw you declare first all your charges and then the enemy declares all their reactions. Not one at a time. Likely doesn't matter in this game but just clarifying for the future, so declare order doesn't matter like in 8th edition.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yer it’s likely we forgot and just rolled with it as we filmed - it’s a totally different ball game with a camera in your hand 😅
@jjp4674
9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure when you fall back or give ground, you move directly backward, not at an angle. When the chariot gave ground (in turn 3?) from the dragon princes, if it had gone straight back instead of at an angle like the beastman player moved it, it would have moved off the edge of the map and been destroyed.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Hey! Which bit of the game was that? And if you give ground you can’t be within 1” of an enemy unit so you have to go at an angle in some cases (like being flanked) but could be wrong though let me know what page number in the book you saw it in and I’ll check! 😊
@jjp4674
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc 56:00 mark. Page 155 of the new rulebook (looking on another channel's preview), it uses the words "2" directly away from the enemy unit(s)", and "it must move as directly as possible from all of the enemy units engaging it", and "directly away from a single enemy unit". It then indicates how and when you are to move at an angle (if you have enemies on a front and a flank as an example), but that seems to be the only way you're allowed to change any sort of direction on a fall back, give ground or flee. It means it's real important to be careful with your facing if you're anywhere near a board edge in this new Fantasy since you could be pushed back off the board. I'm kinda loving the variable severity of losing a combat instead of always break and flee 2d6" since it means there's a bit of a flow back and forth to a fight and a bit more time to maneuver in some reinforcements, but yeah, we're all going to have to remember that losing a couple rounds of combat could still get someone pushed off the board if they're close to the edge. Adds in some calculated risks aspect of "do I angle so I can charge deep into their line from the side, or do I play it safe in case I get charged but I'll have less in my front arc to charge?". :)
@00Kuja00
9 ай бұрын
Remember an adventure (offical) in Warhammer RPG 3edition when our party found a Chaos Star made with poop by beastmen.^^*
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Haha I’d love to record some Warhammer RPG for Old World
@tom1984verschoor
9 ай бұрын
In minute 41 when the dragon princes attacked and he forgot to attack with his horses, which should have been before the bestigors great weapon 😅 @SNBattleReports
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Who’s Pado?
@tom1984verschoor
9 ай бұрын
Must be a typo 😂 fixed it
@innsmouthresident6802
9 ай бұрын
Sooo good to see beastmen again! my chaos dwarves fought them for years .
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Man live me some Chaos Dwarfs
@alpharius2098
9 ай бұрын
This made me so happy I cracked out my elves and started doing touch ups and finishing paint jobs I left undone I'm so ready to play
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yesss!! I did the same thing basically 😅 now I have too many armies to complete
@alpharius2098
9 ай бұрын
I feel this is the best problem to have haha
@cjanquart
9 ай бұрын
Great seeing classic Beastmen again, especially the Bestigor (old Khornegors) and the great touch of different severed heads on the chariots. Not sure of the 'new' lore but are named Beastmen characters (mutator guy, one-eye guy and chariot guy...so can't remember the names) a thing?
@underworldcreep47
9 ай бұрын
none atm but a potential for morghur (the mutatimg one) as hes been alive for centuries, the others werent alive yet
@cjanquart
9 ай бұрын
@@underworldcreep47 The one eye would make a good warlord/general model and the charioteer would make a good bray shaman because of the cloak. I've got a ton of the plastics, several bray shamans/champions and two of those old metal boxed armies so I'm good (for now).
@Nneru
9 ай бұрын
I looove the Beastmen Army !
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
♥️
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! ❤
@grimshwiz
9 ай бұрын
Where did you get the bases with the lines to show the individual bases? All I have seen is ones that adapt 20mm to 25mm, but don't show where the individual bases start and end.
@davidcormode2700
9 ай бұрын
Check out Customeeple or Elgante
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
elganteelegante
@nicolasperel8026
9 ай бұрын
Awesome report guys ! The odds of that 6*6*6*6*6 were almost 1/8000 ^^
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Hahah crazy
@mage189
9 ай бұрын
You missed a lot of rules that were pretty important to the high elves. It's a battle report of a system that's not out yet though so that's just fine. Thanks for the video!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
What were all the Rules buddy. Seems we missed a lot by the comment. Would be great to know thanks 😊
@mage189
9 ай бұрын
@@SNBattleReports I've been really looking hard at High Elves so I've been staring at blurry pictures of stat lines since Saturday. You went back corrected most stuff every one of them like the Fear on the Phoenix Guard, but for example the Phoenix Guard are also Veterans so they get to re-roll failed leadership tests as well so they had a reroll for that test if they hadn't even had to make it in the first place. Elven Reflexes looks like it was forgotten a few times. Minor rule but affected at least one combat I saw. There's a few others I can think of. Some are the usual just playing with my friend nitpicks about the order of things that no on actually cares about. Formations have some special rules for combat resolution. Most of the high elf units you had are in Close Order, as are some of the Beastman herds, which while in 'Combat Order' (wider than deep or square formation) they get +1 to combat resolution. Gor herds and Ungor herds are listed as being in Open Order so that'd have been some swing in some of the combats. Light and Heavy chariots appear to have rules just for being what they are. Heavy Chariots have scything wheels which give them -2 AP on their impact hits which isn't good for Swordmasters at all. Dragon Princes have Swiftstride which applies to Pursuit rolls. So something that moved 3" away can't really can't fail to be caught. Plus on a pursuit move you do count as charging. Not on a follow up, but on a pursuit you do so those lances would have been good again.
@Ozmakkacbr
8 ай бұрын
I noticed the Headsmen axe data card - does anyone know where to get them?
@Noxeas
9 ай бұрын
Where are the values for the units from? I can't find anything....
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Books still not out buddy
@robertlamborn7518
9 ай бұрын
Thank you that was good very good battle report. Did the Dragon use its firey breathe weapon to shoot with?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
I think DC missed it
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
No it never got the chance to do it, as it was out of range then was in combat and just crushed the enemy without needing it haha next time!
@blastvader
9 ай бұрын
Looking through GMG Army walkthrough i thought Gors and Ungors still skirmished? Certainly has 'Skirmisher' in their profile when I pause the video. Are they just on trays for convenience?
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
They have Skirmish and Open Order so can pick which formation you want, depending on how you want to play them!
@blastvader
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc ah. Thanks for the clarification. 👍
@blastvader
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc the Bestigor are deeper than they are wide (they're 5x6) - does this not mean they spent the entire game in march column (meaning they can't charge and count as disordered)? I know that was something mentioned in a WarCom article but I've yet to see anyone use it so far.
@Tideriongaming
9 ай бұрын
Were you playing on a game mat? If so, where did you get it from?
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Pworks! Tell them we sent you
@tsarovich2394
9 ай бұрын
Great channel, first time walking your content. I really like the way you show the movement phase. It's a lot easier to follow without cuts from different angles like other BatRep channels do it sometimes. Man, I am excited for TOW!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words! We’ll have plenty more content to come 😊
@Carcharoth0
9 ай бұрын
I reckon those Bestigors could have snatched the win, dragon be damned.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure
@tizianomerello6530
9 ай бұрын
Are there specific rules for terrein?:)
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yes there are in the new rule book for certain types
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Seen DC has already replied
@Kristofer__B
9 ай бұрын
doesn't having Fear make you ignore Fear from the opponent? Like The Phoenix Guard
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Yer we catch that - I totally overlooked it! 😂
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Yes Sir! It’s catched a bit after
@Kristofer__B
9 ай бұрын
really? the Phoenix Guard should have made their first charge
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
@@Kristofer__Byer they would have, we notice later but it was too late for that - so I said I just didn’t charge because I’m an idiot 😅 sorted
@Kristofer__B
9 ай бұрын
ok,@@sn_dc
@Chrisbo123
8 ай бұрын
Great Batrep! Bonus points for playing against Miles Teller Lookalike ;-)
@SNBattleReports
8 ай бұрын
Haha I’ve searched and he does have something
@shinypuppy1014
9 ай бұрын
Great intro and enjoyable game thanx guys
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! More to come
@lukehartman3637
9 ай бұрын
49k views, Old World Bat Reps are blowing up. Y'all gotta crank out more ASAP!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Haha more coming
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Orcs vs Dwarfs next!
@scotiansaint5679
9 ай бұрын
Does having those movement tray change things as it looks like it makes the unit bigger? Not sure if it affects movement or who can fight.
@sailingsinbad7899
9 ай бұрын
Movement trays have no impact on rules. Their only purpose is to help move units faster, they are ignored for any interaction with other models
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
These trays are also helping us with the new bases sizes to have the proper sizes
@deviljon
9 ай бұрын
@SNBattleReports oh I never thought of the base sizes changing. I will have some 3d printer work for my brother now lol.
@newtpondskipper
9 ай бұрын
That beastmen army was great to see, esp how they'd been ignored in 8th edition. That being said burn those dice.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Love beastmen and they seem pretty fun to play now!
@Angeloflight444
8 ай бұрын
Great game guys! 👍🏻 Loved seeing your happiness and enthusiasm! 🙂🙂
@SNBattleReports
8 ай бұрын
Thanks boss
@Angeloflight444
8 ай бұрын
@@SNBattleReports ❤️❤️🙌🏻
@hasuob1523
8 ай бұрын
Do Phoenix Guard not have Immune to Psychology anymore?
@miloszruczynski1230
9 ай бұрын
Warbows are higher strenght than Peacebows and Longbows have more range than Widebows. Obviously...
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Did not know that! Very cool, thanks 😊
@Zenfoxgames
9 ай бұрын
I think those Dragon Princes have 2 attacks each, which would have helped out against that chariot.
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Was I not doing 2 attacks?
@Zenfoxgames
9 ай бұрын
@@sn_dc nope, You were! I was wrong, and I forgot models not in Base to base only get 1 attack.
@goatman9998
9 ай бұрын
Excellent battle report. Please make more 😅
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
More is coming!! I’m a fantasy fanatic so getting all my armies ready for content 😊
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Will do buddy
@Anyustis1
9 ай бұрын
I haven't finish to watching the report, but in turn 2, dragon princes' horses haven't attacked to the tuskgor chariot. The chages between las 3 fantasy editions and old word are quiet interesting
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Hello! Love the changes to the charges they’ve made myself. And yer missed the horses I got too excited with the riders fighting
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
It’s a very cool edition for sure
@SidneyGutteridge
9 ай бұрын
Is there no step forwards? That's fantastic!
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
There is indeed ‘stepping forward’ so it’s back to 6th edition style combat in some ways but the whole front rank can fight now (with supporting attacks if not base to base)
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Seen DC has already explained. Thanks for the comment
@InfernapeGames1
9 ай бұрын
where are the movement trays from
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
They’re 3D printed! 😊
@InfernapeGames1
9 ай бұрын
kick ass!@@sn_dc
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Try elganteelegante
@charlesthomashanley
9 ай бұрын
A few mistakes made in this battle lads: 1. Phoenix Guard cause Fear and so didn't need to test for their charge on the Minotaurs. 2. Maximum rank bonus for the Gors versus Chariot was +2, +3 is only possible with flank or rear charges. 3. Dragon Prince horses should attack before the Chariot due to +3 I from the charge (and then you forgot them completely).
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Did you enjoy the game? 😉
@craigchandler5153
9 ай бұрын
So the cygor throwing a giant rock is only strength 4 😂 Great battle report 🎉
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Haha strength 4 if not under the main hole in the template, which is strength 8!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
S8 really in the centre if the template
@thomasc6684
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting the game up! Great to see. Hope we get more Old World soon!
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome
@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073
9 ай бұрын
That was very enjoyable. Great quality content as always. I will love to see more :)
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
More to come!
@peteorfanos
9 ай бұрын
IRL war bows were jus heavier poundage but not long of stave
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
Ahhhh that’s super interesting! Thanks for that
@stefanthomas4868
9 ай бұрын
This makes me happy.
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Awww 🥰
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
I’m happy you’re happy! Also love the bag icon 🦇 very Vampire Counts
@MightyWolve
9 ай бұрын
Did you ever do your flame attack from the dragon?
@sn_dc
9 ай бұрын
No but I was considering it! I didn’t get a chance in this game due to holding the dragon back for a counter punch after Chris made his charges etc
@bobmylan9434
9 ай бұрын
Wonderful minis, wonderful battle report! ❤
@Tartersauce101
9 ай бұрын
That Beastmen army is beautiful 😢
@SNBattleReports
9 ай бұрын
Thanks champ
@JakeHill-g2p
9 ай бұрын
Hey guys, love the battle report! I think the elves would have done better against the tuskgor chariots if you'd included the +1 combat res from close order and outnumber.
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