Should be noted: For SoD, the rotation is~ Martyr/CS---Auto---judge---Right/Twist---(Swap seals, fill with cs/judge after that)
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
Thank you, in the vid I just wanted to show the basics of twisting, not the rotation (should've noted that), I will make another video with the full rotation, also including builds with divine storm/exorcism.
@br4vetrave1er
10 ай бұрын
for noob like me, that would be gold! ty@@KainRaRPG
@ruggie.74
9 ай бұрын
Why Righteousness and not Command?
@KainRaRPG
9 ай бұрын
@@ruggie.74 you can’t twist command sadly, doesn’t work. This setup is good for leveling but once you get divine storm and command it’s kinda obsolete. Martyr with some twisting is still nice though if you are in a mana intensive fight.
@ruggie.74
9 ай бұрын
@@KainRaRPGOkay so once you get Divine Storm, you're just using Seal of Command solely? That's too bad.
@TurimoO
10 ай бұрын
I've been training seal twisting its so fun !!
@snakebebop
10 ай бұрын
Assuming blizzard didn't change anything, Seal of Command would be the seal you use to twist into Righteousness for example.
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
yes exactly, this was just twisting for leveling so far, and it's great to get seal of Martyrdom early.
@LouisCheung713
10 ай бұрын
seems we cannot seal between martyrdom to Command
@toughguyharrison
10 ай бұрын
@lululuhin yeah, it didn't work when the streamers ran bfd at blizcon
@LouisCheung713
10 ай бұрын
@@toughguyharrison so what are we using now, as we will use divine storm
@toughguyharrison
10 ай бұрын
@@LouisCheung713 idk, currently twisting righteousness and martyrdom. Haven't got divine storm yet
@grobe_richtung
10 ай бұрын
Hi, i am also very new to this playstyle and would like learn more - i tested it mayself this morning and it worked so far - but is there a way to combine both seals in a one button macro solution or what do you recommend?
@twoinch
9 ай бұрын
look up castsequence macro
@delboytrotter5447
10 ай бұрын
i guess for balance they have removed the ability to twist command to martyr like in tbc. just hit 20 so been trying to twist with command now. You can only twist martyr to righteousness, command to righteousness (vice versa) . Abit dissapointed but i guess lets wait to see in further phases if they update it to twist like it used to in tbc.
@waayneinteressierts9704
10 ай бұрын
So you can not twist from command to Martyr, or is only Martyr to Command not working?
@delboytrotter5447
10 ай бұрын
@@waayneinteressierts9704 those seals just arent twistable at all. i think its obviously deliberate. im thinking its probably better to judge martyr on cd and have command up for the on hit proc chance as its 70%. but then again its proabbly just better to take divine storm instead of martyr for the 110% weapon damage.
@omarlozano9374
10 ай бұрын
@@delboytrotter5447 maybe for leveling. But seal of righteousness doesn’t scale at max level, as you get better gear. So there’s no way that DS will be better than SoM in the long run, since the latter has a mana regen component to it.
@delboytrotter5447
10 ай бұрын
@@omarlozano9374was talking about p1 specifically, but yeah still enjoying the class. Let’s see how it pans out!
@98benz
10 ай бұрын
nice 👍
@HuMaOne69
10 ай бұрын
twisting with no autoattack bar, you will end up wasting mana and losing dps
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
I did have an autoattack bar here it was just very minimalist because I didn’t setup my addons for season of discovery yet, I’ll do a level 25 guide with the whole rotation and a proper weak aura swing timer. This was just an introduction.
@denisblack9897
10 ай бұрын
Look better, he has a pretty cool swing timer bar, not very practical, but looks great
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
@@denisblack9897 nah he's kinda right mine is very limited, wago.io/Sw_l1YeZg is much better with weakauras and shown in future videos.
@brunonascimento6446
10 ай бұрын
you don't judgment in between ?
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
I do, I just wanted this to be a simple guide on timing the twists, you should judge in beteeen if you can sustain the mana.
@LichKArthus
10 ай бұрын
Crusader strike is better than judgement in the gap.
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
@@LichKArthus that is correct!
@brod3h
10 ай бұрын
I've just hit 20, I can confirm that twisting with Seal of Command DOES NOT WORK.
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
sadly yeah :( I've been trying but I think it doesn't twist either way right? Means we almost for sure want Divine Storm insted of Martyr.
@aleksadmitrovic940
9 ай бұрын
This is so sad, I wanted more tbc pala,then wotlk...
@АлександрКузнецов-о5е2и
9 ай бұрын
@@aleksadmitrovic940Thats so sad tbf i started paladin in sod when i read about runes u get like crusader strike, divine storm, that fear dispell aura, hoping wud be able to seal twist with soc. But as its classic and u dont even have dispell resistance to ur seals not talking about talents for imp crusader strike or wings etc (at least yet) not giving seal twist with soc is so sad compared to what other classes get (excluding warriors). Think ill reroll shammy) those get their gaps closed a bit more efficiently))
@aleksadmitrovic940
9 ай бұрын
@@АлександрКузнецов-о5е2и Divine storm is rly good,but seal twisting is so fun,and rebuke is so helpful,they will balance stuff later on I hope
@denisblack9897
10 ай бұрын
WotLK rotation + seal twisting What a time to be alive
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
Paladins are back baby!
@Bennyboy087
10 ай бұрын
If it works like the other seals you can twist from command to Martyrdom but not from Martyr to Command. It wont be viable when pushing raids to twist with Righteous as it doesnt scale with AP, command and Martyr will so you would twist from command to martyr, do your judgement then get back into command and twist to martyr, then get back into command again. Do your filler and twist to martyr, do a judge of martyr and get back into command etc. rinse repeat. Martyr judge hits for 70% weap dmg so thats what you're going to judge with and both r1 SoC and SoM are super low mana cost so it should be maintainable
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
very good explanation, thank you :) I will be updating the guide for max level soon, this was just an introduction to time your twists and speed up leveling, you should definitely forgo Righetousness later as it doesn't scale with weapon damage and weave in Crusade Strike and judgement whenever you can (CS prio).
@Bennyboy087
10 ай бұрын
@@KainRaRPG Im 2 levels away from SoC. Ill test it tomorrow and let you know for sure. No seal twisting weak aura that tracks what seal you're in currently works for Seal of Martyrdom. I had to manually remove the old Seal of the Martyr and replace it with the new spell ID but it didnt work out 100%. Still looking for a new weakaura which hopefully should be out as rets are hitting 20 now
@vladimir4526
10 ай бұрын
doesnt work
@Bennyboy087
9 ай бұрын
@@vladimir4526Yup found that out when I hit 20. TBH I dont think that twisting with SoR will be that viable. It scales with SP so you'll be splitting your stat prio between STR(AP) and SP for your two seals. Its unfortunate that you can't twist between SoC and SoM. Save your mana for divine storm, it hits way harder than SoR will be for twisiting
@NoFutureForG0uda
9 ай бұрын
man im so sad, i had the litteral best time ever in BC. I rolled a paladin strictly to sealtwist martyr and command :(((@@Bennyboy087
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
Hey folks, I put out this vid out to introduce you to seal twisting which is extremely rewarding so far in season of discovery, will update on it once I get max level. Also, you should be weaving in Crusade Strike and Judgment in between your seals, in this video I just wanted to show you the basics on how to time them. I also recommend this Weapon Swing Timer: wago.io/Sw_l1YeZg, the one in the vid is crap :D (I was too lazy to update my addons while leveling, sorry ^^). A bit about me, I've been playing Ret since the original vanilla so it's very nostalgic and fun to come back, loving the season so far and have been having a blast making videos. Let me know what more you want to see on the channel and come visit me on my twitch if you wanna hang out and ask questions!
@GymWorkoutsF1
10 ай бұрын
Completely new to WoW/SoD, so sorry if this is a dumb question… is this a better rotation than using judgement and do we not want to use judgement?
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
@@GymWorkoutsF1 not dumb at all! You want to use judgement during "downtime" so in between twists. Same goes for Crusader Strike. CS is your priority after twisting cause it deals weapon damage. Judgement is "filler". Another cool thing about Seal of Righteousness is that you can go back and forth between Martyr and Righteousness while leveling cause it procs of both, while you can't twist Command I heard. I know it can get a bit confusing but it's very rewarding when you get the hang of it :D)
@GymWorkoutsF1
10 ай бұрын
@@KainRaRPG thanks! That was helpful
@redrh1
10 ай бұрын
Hope to see another video when you get seal of command. Would like to hear more about skill priority usage. Also is there any particular WeakAura for weapon swing timer you think is best? Thanks for the vid!
@HowIPartedTheRedSea
10 ай бұрын
@@KainRaRPGso you can twist martyr into command in SoD unlike twisting command into martyr in tbc?
@BrunoMiguelSilva5
10 ай бұрын
Is seal twist mandatory?
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
no but it is fun especially early on and a handy trick to learn. Sadly, on level 25 twisting is kinda sub-par because it is confirmed it doesn't work with Seal of Command. So you should probably just stick to using the Divine Storm rotation (I just made a video on that)
@tizunk
9 ай бұрын
If you're super lazy like me you can use /castsequence Seal of Righteousness(Rank 3), Judgement /cast Crusader Strike /cleartarget [dead][help] /startattack Switch Righteousness with any seal you want. I don't know if adding divine storm works or not. Only level 22 right now.
@YatesiebadRNG
10 ай бұрын
Hey man, thanks for explaining this to a twisting noob. Whats your addon for swing timer?
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
Here my addons weren't fully set up yet so it was the basic weapon swing timer, but I'm setting up my own in WeakAuras (great addon highly recommend)
@fireraassassin3911
10 ай бұрын
There is really good weapon swing timer weak aura that shows you when you should actually seal twist, the one used in the video is really bad looking 😅
@fireraassassin3911
10 ай бұрын
The name of weak aura is Baranor‘s seal twist swing timer
@robbieweld7928
10 ай бұрын
imo the best is tbc version of WeaponSwingTimer-SixxFix. It's an addon rather than a weak aura and you need to install it manually rather than through curseforge
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
@@fireraassassin3911I fully agree it’s crap :D I was grinding too hard yesterday and didn’t set up weak auras, in future videos things will look much clearer I just wanted to see if people are interested in videos like this to help my Paladin homies out.
@_Snarky
10 ай бұрын
Also get 5 points in benediction talent as without it you get oom very fast.
@queenmarsia
10 ай бұрын
can u seal twist the AP increase from Seal of the crusader?
@acslater8460
10 ай бұрын
Using a cast sequence macro can help make twisting a tiny bit easier! Saves button space as well!
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
true! This was a quickly put guide for early in the season I’ll try to go into more details later :)
@TDoc89
10 ай бұрын
how locks your macro?
@Reippa
10 ай бұрын
Can you share your cast sequence macro?
@acslater8460
10 ай бұрын
@@Reippa #showtooltip /castsequence seal of righteousness, seal of martyrdom
@TDoc89
10 ай бұрын
@@acslater8460 and which macro do I use for the fight. I start with which seal, twist it, and then fight with with seal?
@Piotr.R
10 ай бұрын
in case of high hp enemies (e.g. dungeon bosses), do you ever judgement the seal of the crusader for higher holy dmg?
@KainRaRPG
10 ай бұрын
yes, on tougher enemies you should crusader before your standard rotation.
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