Jason was firing from the ready, but his competitor had somehow not managed to fire from ready and was firing from on target. Not at all the same or equal. Jason is a keeper . Welcome Jason
@kevinbreese5739
9 ай бұрын
Yeah it was very obvious that Jason was faster at ripping those rounds off.
@bigshrimpn
Жыл бұрын
I welcome the addition of Jason. He seems like a pretty cool guy.
@YoutubeLovesCowards
Жыл бұрын
Love my A300. Sure I'd like to have a 1301 but for the money, the A300 can't be beat
@AnnoyoTribe
Жыл бұрын
From your shooting experience with the A300, without trying to compare the two strictly about the A300, what flaws or short comings would you say the shotgun has?
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
Funny how you have to spend even more money on the 1301 just to get it to do what the A300 offers out of the box. Beveled loading port, actual 7 round capacity, MLOK hanguard.... the A300 is plenty fast you won't outrun it the BLINK system isn't necessary.
@jaex26
10 ай бұрын
Lol I was the same but got the 1301 instead of the M4
@nicholasemricson1427
2 ай бұрын
Having shot both $ to performance goes to the A300 no hesitation.
@Gnome-A-Tron
Жыл бұрын
Lol 13:44 “I was outrunning the trigger” naw, definitely not my man
@bretgeidel613
Жыл бұрын
1301 tactical is a very nice shotgun. I added a nordic +2 mag tube extension and a nordic follower. I have shot over 500 rounds of slugs with flawless function.
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
Funny how you have to spend even more money on the 1301 just to get it to do what the A300 offers out of the box. Beveled loading port, actual 7 round capacity, MLOK hanguard....
@bretgeidel613
9 ай бұрын
@@Kinetic.44 And you don't get a cold hammer forged barrel with the A300.
@calebdixon784
2 ай бұрын
Needs lock tite and more torque for front bolts
@chriscox3911
Жыл бұрын
I think $700 is a lot of money for 0.02 sec splits. That much money will buy A LOT of practice ammo! Welcome Jason!
@jacksman7
Жыл бұрын
The 1301 will take 7 rounds in the tube if you just remove the plastic mag spring retainer out. Functionally it effects the gun in no way. Also that 2 3/4" difference in the shells. Yeah it can be confusing but shotgun ammo companies measure the overall length of cartridges before they are crimped at the end of the shell. Hence the difference in overall length after the shell is made. Great video guys... Now Beretta please make the A300 forend compatible with my 1301. ETA: the plastic retainer I am referring to is in the Gen 3 1301s with a full length magazine tube.
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the engineers put that there for a reason, but whatever screw it.... A300 has like half a inch longer mag tube. 1301 has a 18.5" barrel A300 has a 19.1". The mag tubes are flush on both. That's why.
@brendondickerson9563
12 күн бұрын
I just saw last night that they have the updated 1301 friends on the Beretta website.
@zabronzkee731
Жыл бұрын
Just bought myself a A300 ultima patrol and i couldn't be happier. it's perfect, feels great and looks great. unless money isn't an option, the A300 is all you need, it's plenty fast and shoots just as well
@cremonster
10 ай бұрын
Right. It's not like you could shoot someone in the chest with 5 shells and they say "Ha, you should've chose the 1301...that's why you'll lose"
@zabronzkee731
10 ай бұрын
@@cremonster exactly lol unless you're a professional shooter, you are not gonna out pace the A300
@ErichDeSchepper-cx1ju
5 ай бұрын
Yup..me too and totally agree.
@GS-jk4cs
Жыл бұрын
Yeah... I bought two A300 Patrols... No regrets. For me, shooting "faster" or "softer" matters less on a shotgun than reloading faster. In that regard, the A300 is the leader of the two. Then add the "pro lifter" upgrade, it is worth every penny and should be the stock part.
@ShaneMoody-y2s
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a comparison of the Beretta A300 Patrol and the Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical.
@GS-jk4cs
Жыл бұрын
I have a 930 with the OR3GUN parts Mossberg copied for the 940... I prefer my A300 and recommend it over the Mossberg.
@DanDannyDanielleBob
11 ай бұрын
Updoot...this is what the peeples need
@atomicsmith
8 ай бұрын
@@GS-jk4csprefer for what reasons? Reliability? Shootability? Ergonomics?
@dontbugme7362
7 ай бұрын
I've been looking at both. I've settled on the Mossberg Pro. I like the larger loading port, the adjustable buttstock ( I need a shorter LOP) and the safety behind the trigger. VERY similar guns. IF I had the extra money I'd probably go 1301 BUT I can outfit a 940 for the same outlay as a 1301 just out of the box.
@Robyne_u61
6 ай бұрын
@@dontbugme7362hey man same reason I wanted the 1301 but the price and the mossberg has a real low dot which I like and got with it. Will be making a yt short soon within a week
@gabbyhayes1568
Жыл бұрын
When Jason shoots the 1301 it looks like a full auto lol.
@NashvillePastaman
Жыл бұрын
Welcome Jayson !!!! Made in Tennessee!!!! Wow - that was sick - 1.54
@ianray8823
Жыл бұрын
Jason brings the vibe and also has a full auto finger
@boldie24
Жыл бұрын
Both are excellent choices. I have the 1301T and absolutely love it, had about two years. Will be getting the A300 Patrol as well.
@ru2yaz33
Жыл бұрын
Compare Benelli M4, Beretta 1301 tactical, Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol, and Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical with no upgrades stock setup.
@BugsyNY
Жыл бұрын
1301 is faster but the A300 is right up there. Probably comes down to price to make a choice for some. I choose 1301 👍 Welcome Jason you make a great addition to the Classic crew!
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
The A300 is so fast it makes no difference. You're not going to outrun it.
@terrarecon
10 ай бұрын
@@Kinetic.44 facts, not even a full second of difference. Negligible.
@cremonster
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, and if you're in a situation where you'd need the hundreds of a second faster, you're already fucked lol@@Kinetic.44
@dante69d
7 күн бұрын
Soo True @@cremonster
@matthollins3806
Жыл бұрын
Jason got that trigger finger man sheesh lmao. Had the 1301 even trying to catch up😂
@AllAboutSurvival
Жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see a comparison between two Beretta shotguns
@daltonflanagan9130
Жыл бұрын
Truthfully I think either would be a great addition to the collection! And welcome Jason to the Classic family
@MrSwitch1934
Жыл бұрын
Might have something to do with the stock. I got rid of the Mesa tactical and went with a Magpul because i dont like pistol grips on my shotguns. Welcome to the fam Jason. Looking forward to great things from you as we do the rest of the channel members. God bless. Rangers Lead The Way!
@9999plato
Жыл бұрын
I have the 1301, a fantastic shotgun. I always wanted a Beretta and I finally bought one 6 months ago.
@ryanrollins2368
Жыл бұрын
My 1301 is one of my top 3 guns I'd never sell or trade. A go to shtf beast
@ericreichert1382
Жыл бұрын
We need Jason's background. Definitely a trigger puller. Great video guys.
@williammoore6953
11 ай бұрын
Mechanical speed vs applicable speed. How many people can actually outrun the A300 while making hits on multiple targets? The recoil impulse differences in reviewers is interesting. Some say very little difference and some say a big difference. I am leaning A300 no slugs and a Buck Kicker choke. Mag capacity- 18.5" on 1301 and 19" on A300 on the barrels. That would give the A300 a slight increase on mag tube for shell variation.
@TedJ71
4 ай бұрын
Just bought a buck kicker choke for mine. Haven’t tried it yet, but I’m sure will make a big difference with run of the mill 00 buck loads.
@calebdixon784
2 ай бұрын
Great beretta marketing 😂
@devrinmg
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel Jason and great shooting!
@RickChilds-kq1ti
Жыл бұрын
It’s good seeing an AA on here. Love it and we’re 2A advocates also
@Pinggolfer71
5 ай бұрын
Jason has a good sense of humor. I really like his addition to the channel.
@vegeta420z6
Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, shotgun shells are measured before they're filled (before the wad, powder and shot are loaded in) its then crimped to keep all that from falling out. With a European style crimp it usually reduces the capacity by 1, with an American crimp you'll get the full 7 in the tube. The reason the A300 takes all 7 is likely that the follower is different (thinner) so it allows that last rd even with the Euro crimp. I've had my 1301 for a couple years now and it runs everything I feed it, it'll hold 9 (1 in the chamber, plus a ghost loaded shell) if you use federal, Winchester, Remington, or other US made shells. I just really wish berreta had a metal barrel clamp, and mlok on the factory handguard for the 1301, other then that I love my Berreta
@BXRMWLL
11 ай бұрын
fun fact, i have the A300 UP and it also will run 9 with a ghost loaded shell.
@jameswalter3136
10 ай бұрын
Perhaps the tube is bigger, after all the barrel is bigger.
@Fridley20
8 ай бұрын
At the end of the tube on the 1301, take apart and take out the plastic retainer piece inside and but spring and end cap back on.. that will allow you fit that extra shell inside.
@akforge
6 ай бұрын
The 1301 y’all were evaluating had an aftermarket stock on it. The question begs to be asked would the OEM stock made a difference in felt/perceived recoil? 🤔
@dperk001
9 ай бұрын
I think I've watched this video 3 times in full, Both guns are great! I do have the 1301, but love the A300 Ultima Patrol feel also, I have only dry-fired the Patrol. Great side by side comparision, Classic Firearms makes the best side-by-side comparison videos!
@gullynades4592
Ай бұрын
@ClassicFirearms A300 has a 19.1 inch barrel and 1301 has a 18.7 inch barrel. Mag tubes are flush with barrel so the A300 tube is slightly larger
@brazzy1467
Жыл бұрын
I have the 1301 and will never get rid of it. It eats everything I feed through it. My gunsmith said the plunger in the 1301 is slightly longer that's why you can only get 6 in the tube.
@nissanguy16
Жыл бұрын
GG&G has a shorter one it seems
@nolagunguy
Жыл бұрын
so..can get .03 faster for 800 more (been seeing a300 for 870-900 and 1301 for 1600+). Think I'll get 2 a300s
@wcoonradt264
Жыл бұрын
Both of these Beretta shotguns are amazing. Both can perform better than I can so I ended up buying the A300, but the 1301 is a little more robust with 2 action bars as opposed to the single with the A300. Anyway, either way, you'll be well served..
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
Same thing is said about mossbergs, yet look at the millions of 870s out there. Maintain your guns and replace high wear parts before they break, or better yet, have two of the same gun, one for beating up in training and one than only gets function checked and kept pristine and used for defense.. Funny how you have to spend even more money on the 1301 just to get it to do what the A300 offers out of the box. Beveled loading port, actual 7 round capacity, MLOK hanguard.... the A300 is plenty fast you won't outrun it the BLINK system isn't necessary.
@Steelcity77
Жыл бұрын
The barrel is a bit longer on the A300, maybe the mag tube is too? That might be why it holds 1 more shell.
@MicahSlicer
Жыл бұрын
You can see the A300’s barrel clamp slowly “walk” to the end of the barrel. GG&G has some upgraded options for the clamp and the mag tube if that interests you.
@GS-jk4cs
Жыл бұрын
I took my clamp off immediately and have had zero issues. There's a spring loaded plunger that acts as a anti rotation feature for the tube. I think people believe they need a clamp so there it is.
@sheldonjplanktonn
Жыл бұрын
You should never have to immediately upgrade / swap out something that basic on a completely new product. Completely unacceptable
@Vladpryde
Жыл бұрын
@@sheldonjplanktonn And especially if you're paying $1,000 or more for it.
@MoparOrNoCar-vm5ul
Жыл бұрын
I did a full cleaning on mine out of the box and snugged the clamp screws when I reassembled it. 500 + rounds later no movement.
@MicahSlicer
Жыл бұрын
@@sheldonjplanktonn agreed, you shouldn’t replace anything till testing. I had issues with my barrel clamp with it walking off, I contacted Beretta and didn’t receive a reply. So after that I purchased the aftermarket clamp.
@mtbsack590
Жыл бұрын
Jason great job! Lighting in a bottle
@gavanlee
Жыл бұрын
I think your bias is preventing you from pulling the trigger faster. 🙄
@kenmusingi4478
Жыл бұрын
I think the pistol grip is doing that too, this isn't a stock to stock comparison imo. They should both have standard grips not the pistol grip option
@ADDAmerican
Жыл бұрын
Lmao if youve seen grandthumbs video yk they are
@rudals1281
Жыл бұрын
Watching this while holding my Benelli M4 on my toilet. ❤❤❤
@arturobalderas6106
Жыл бұрын
1301 def smoked the A300 patrol. But both seem like effective weapons.
@chimeraelite
Жыл бұрын
Reliably putting rounds down range 🤙
@ramuelii8845
10 ай бұрын
“These both have the same gas systems” wrong “The a300 has the B-Link system” wrong
@urquiz008
11 ай бұрын
Great to see you on the channel Jason!
@xxNickxx23xx
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the squad Jason!
@dnahdog
11 ай бұрын
I would like to see a comparison between the A300 and the mossberg 940 pro tactical they are around the same price point
@ericalger2072
21 күн бұрын
Different gas systems and different bolts, stocks, and lifters. I run a 1301 pro-comp and I appreciate every feature the 1301 brings to the table. A300s are great too. Personally I don't like pistol grips on auto loaders because it can interfere with double and quad loads.
@billcarter2589
11 ай бұрын
how about a Comparision between the Beretta a300/ 1301 and the Mossberg 940jm pro tactical?
@ErichDeSchepper-cx1ju
5 ай бұрын
The Mossberg Pro Tactical is no comparison to either Beretta. Hands down Beretta.
@Golden_Patriot
11 ай бұрын
welcome Jason i am excited to see how fit into the classic crew
@WStar4Life
11 ай бұрын
I got the 1301 on sale with my military discount on top for $1200 😊. The A300 vs 940 Pro Tactical would be a better comparison video
@DavidA20200
10 ай бұрын
Can you do this again but get a LTT 1301 also? Love to see how all 3 compare. I really want an LTT 1301.
@johncurtis5367
8 ай бұрын
1301 7+1 shell fix: remove tube and then remove spring retention device. Reinstall tube then any 2 3/4 inch shells work yes any and no loss in reliability
@skelley6136
5 ай бұрын
That barrel clamp on the a300 is walkin way forward! Time to upgrade to a gg&g metal one!
@GerryHicks-ki5uf
9 күн бұрын
As a military Navy Vet in comparison to the Remington 870 either is hands down!
@JayRitzy
Жыл бұрын
I love my 1301 tac, to be honest I love it slightly more than my Benelli M4. The bolt release is far better than the M4 and the ergonomics fits me better...imo
@SNIPER_NO_SNIPING
7 ай бұрын
They making that a300 run slower let’s be real.
@benjaminsievers9744
Ай бұрын
Just purchased the a300 The 1301 seem to cycle a little bit faster does the speed matter ? Yes but to what point . Both shot guns seem to get the job done. Excited with my decision and savings. I’m not running a shotgun enough to even know the difference. I need something to go bang when I’m depending on it. 😊
@TheLoneRanger745
11 ай бұрын
Must have something to do with the follower and spring system. Jason has a full auto registered finger ! For sure ! Maybe the pistol grip aids in the mechanics of the hand and ability to trigger faster.
@thelastminuteman7513
Жыл бұрын
Roll crimped shells tend to be shorter in my experience. Managed to get 9+1 out of a 20" 590 with certain brands. Also Jason is fun I hope he sticks around.
@PlugNuster
2 ай бұрын
You can't outrun either one. And the recoil is negligible. Both are fantastic shotguns no doubt, but I prefer the A300 Ultima Patrol, that's just me.
@MrScary67
Жыл бұрын
Welcome Jason....from a fellow Jason. I have the A300 Patrol...love it!!!
@alexmillar7302
Жыл бұрын
I did notice that jason started with finger on the trigger guard where as kaya started with finger on trigger… maybe a slight time difference due to
@Ketchupbelongsonsteak
Жыл бұрын
6+1+1 or 7+1+1 ghost load my friends. Briley makes a sweet handguard for the 1301 that covers the barrel also so over the shoulder quad load you don't get burned if barrel is hot.
@toddk1377
Жыл бұрын
I think if you need a real hardcore tactical shotgun, the 1301 is damn hard to beat, especially with the gas system, it's chf barrel, chromed bolt and chamber, ect. The A300 is good, but it will definitely have more wear and possible failures in the long run in comparison.
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
Same thing is said about mossbergs, yet look at the millions of 870s out there. Maintain your guns and replace high wear parts before they break, or better yet, have two of the same gun, one for beating up in training and one than only gets function checked and kept pristine and used for defense.. Funny how you have to spend even more money on the 1301 just to get it to do what the A300 offers out of the box. Beveled loading port, actual 7 round capacity, MLOK hanguard.... the A300 is plenty fast you won't outrun it the BLINK system isn't necessary.
@geoffreygrant6833
Жыл бұрын
You missed one of the bigger things to me for the a300 the loading gate is much rather to use
@Sergeantgrunt
Жыл бұрын
Kaya started with his finger on the trigger and was already in the firing position. Jason started with his finger on the receiver and was at the lowish ready. I conclude even with that hiccup Jason is the winner. I predict that Jason would have had a 1.45 or1.46 with all things being equal.
@davidcurtiswatts2378
2 ай бұрын
Good for you JASON.
@cesarthebomb
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@atumre4705
Жыл бұрын
Happy with my A300 Ultima Patrol.
@RogerMitchem-rl5mo
Жыл бұрын
I love Beretta they’re my personal favorite manufacturer, I’d love to have the 1301 or the A300 UP in my collection. 😍
@c.f.leffen2929
Жыл бұрын
Jason was much faster than Kaya. The 1301 seemed much faster, but again, Jason shot both faster. Great Demo, guys. Thanks!
@JimBurwellsPetiquetteHouston
7 ай бұрын
I love those two guns BUT I'm a lefty. Do you think I would have any issues with ejections across the face?
@adaniodebaz7305
11 ай бұрын
I’m happy with my A300 !! Thanks for sharing guys
@jtaylorb88
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure if they come with the extended magazine tube they come from Tennessee and not Italy since they cannot import them in that configuration. If you want one from the motherland you have to add a Nordic extension on the 1301.
@ErichDeSchepper-cx1ju
5 ай бұрын
I Definitely prefer the straight stock over the pistol grip on a shotgun myself.
@paulwortham1825
11 ай бұрын
I know bass pro now has the 1301 tactical for just over 1600 for the standard grip, pistol grip is like $40-50 higher and the A300 Ultima Patrol going like 900-1k
@hectormidence2629
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!
@benfarago8616
8 ай бұрын
It's the spring placement you talked about in the opening
@mthyssen1702
Жыл бұрын
Theres a small plastic cap at the end of the magazine spring in the 1301. If you remove that, you can fit 7.
@CntBckt
4 ай бұрын
For some reason, I've found myself rewatching this and now I'm wondering- How much closer would the times be with the same grip/ stock?
@MeMadeIt
Жыл бұрын
Jason won! 👍 .3 sec difference. But ... is it enough of a difference to make a difference? -PH Jason grabs hot barrel - meh, it's alright. 😳
@rico300zx
2 ай бұрын
Great video guys I went with the A330 because of the loading port cut out was larger
@3526900
5 ай бұрын
How can you judge recoil when you changed the stocks? Wouldn't you want everything too be the same to be fair?
@Kinetic.44
10 ай бұрын
A300 has like half a inch longer mag tube. 1301 has a 18.5" barrel A300 has a 19.1". The mag tubes are flush on both. That's why.
@stephenurban9880
Жыл бұрын
2 3/4" is in relation to the length of a "fired" shell. So they are all 2 3/4" shells, they just use different crimping.
@brookecorvelli1097
Жыл бұрын
Very happy owner of a 1301 after trying out m4 too (yep I said it!) and picked the beretta. Also I highly recommend the Mossberg 930 JM Pro 12ga tac series. A little longer of a barrel but fast AF and a bit cheaper than A300 and less recoil than either berettas
@josephjuarez589
Жыл бұрын
Why did you feel to go with the 1301 instead of the benelli m4 bro?
@ChaseActual
11 ай бұрын
I also had an M4. I sold it to get the 1301. The M4 was extremely heavy. Granted, it was a tank.
@josephjuarez589
11 ай бұрын
@ChaseActual would you sat that thr 1301 is more than adequate for home defense? I was thinking of the m4 for home defense...but maybe I don't need it and the 1301 is just right for that situation
@ChaseActual
11 ай бұрын
@@josephjuarez589 Like anything, it depends on the application. For home defense, either is adequate. If you plan on having to carry the thing around for any amount of time, like me, weight was a serious consideration.
@DLW23940
4 ай бұрын
Did the 1301 tactical with the pistol grip ever twist out of alignment?
@miroslavm2553
2 ай бұрын
I am not from Beretta, but I will answer to your question regarding magazine capacity difference. Take a plastic cap off from the magazine tube that hold spring captivated and they both will take 7 rounds.
@Bushy_P
27 күн бұрын
Take apart the two mag tubes and you’ll figure out why one takes 7 and one takes 6.
@JoeyOutlaw
11 ай бұрын
With the proper Push+Pull Technique you can get the recoil of the 1301 down to your standard 7.62x39 recoil. It’s actually crazy once you get it down to a science, your Dot in my case will barely leave your aiming point and you will never loose sight picture of your target
@novafox7091
2 ай бұрын
The A300 Ultima Patrol was no brainer for me.
@Gibson45er
Ай бұрын
Agreed...... I'm 65 and just need a potent home defense weapon.......I am not tacticool and don't want to be......I have the A300...... flawless.....
@hellstrike5366
3 ай бұрын
I've run a left-handed safety on my 870 for a decade. Is there an option or after-market part to reverse the safety on Beretta's?
@stevebrinley2986
Жыл бұрын
You guys almost lost the barrel clamp on the A300 by the end of this video. It shifted all the way to the end of that barrel. Enjoyed the comparison between the two, Thanks!
@goatman3828
11 ай бұрын
On the shell length...are 2 of them longer than 2 3/4, or are 2 shorter than 2 3/4? I might not have the same 4 brands, so it makes a difference. My Mossy 590A1 has always fit full capacity regardless of brand.
@jeffkanatzar
Жыл бұрын
What I would like to know is are they chamber in 2 3/4 or do they also take the 3" shell. Another thing is do they make a rifled slug bore?
@invaderjoshua6280
11 ай бұрын
It's funny how much the M4 tactical has come down in price since these came out.
@HotRods1
10 ай бұрын
Would you buy this or the mossberg 940 ? Thanks !
@kccustodes2618
11 ай бұрын
It helped me decide. Thank you.
@kirkthorpe5392
11 ай бұрын
Y’all need to add in some corrections, multiple times he refers to the 1301 as the A300, which makes it confusing to track which features are on which gun as he goes back and forth so much.
@CesarChavez-bn6iv
2 ай бұрын
The A300 on my list to get
@scottperkins7652
Жыл бұрын
In the video you're finger was on the trigger & his was off to the side so he had to take more time to put his finger on the trigger.. But they are fast.. I got a Beretta A-400 Extreme Plus it's pretty fast too... love the video. Thanks
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