Well..what to say about them two together..Bernardo+Rupert the best satsang one could ever aspire to..Grateful to all the three of you gentlemen.
@adventuresinawareness
2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your engagement and comment! 🙏
@elisabethhgelid6969
Жыл бұрын
True beauty!
@saiberunato
Жыл бұрын
@@adventuresinawareness Now get Donald Hoffman to make it a quad.
@r3b3lvegan89
2 жыл бұрын
“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one Consciousness experiencing Itself subjectively, there’s no such thing as death life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves…..here’s Tom with the weather” Bill Hicks
@glynisvanrooyen7010
Жыл бұрын
My first awareness of conciousness was at 2 yrs old, I very early on perceived the concept of a vibrant force of life in the universe but my environmental circumstances knocked this out of me and i seem to have lost the capacity to endure my own perceived self until now in my 70's. I determined to persue with passion the realities of life having worked at dumping one by one the false beliefs of a cultured mindset. So I think we are born with awareness and culture whacks it out of us to a greater or lesser degree, and some people are numbed into acceptance and others fight their way out of ìt
@qwst2c
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this discussion between Rupert and Bernado available to the public. I find trying to express my thoughts clunky because of the limitations of language. The importance of abiding in the awareness of the essential self in regard to mitigating the overall anxiety experienced in this world cannot be overstated. These gentlemen are pointing in the right direction. ❤
@AngelicaChristi
2 жыл бұрын
I find the comments very interesting and only because I followed Rupert years ago, and only discovered Bernardo a short time ago through the I AM... podcast with Jonny Wilkinson and found that profound in regards to 50 years of spiritual exploration, and something was always missing. Always one more thing to do or think. Bernardo's 'allowing nature to live us' made more sense than anything anyone else had said. Of course it was more than that, but perhaps because when I was in my 20, 30, 40, and 50's, life was about manifesting materialism and spiritual awakening. That was until one day I realized none of it mattered, it was all just stuff and beliefs, and none of it was a pathway to what I thought it was. I crashed my material world and what a journey it has been--one most cannot understand. But Bernardo did, and Trust and Surrender to Nature/Creator, in this nano-second IS peace, is clarity. It is living a life of creativity and not bound to stress or fear. I other reason I stopped listening was because I had never heard a tone in Rupert's voice as I did this time--I can't define it, it was a sense of slight superiority even though he 'complimented' Bernardo repeatedly, and that was surprising. Yes, I get it, this is my reality (at least for this moment) and certainly not someone else's.
@adventuresinawareness
2 жыл бұрын
Great to read your perspective, Angelica. Thanks for sharing!
@kathleenbrady9916
Жыл бұрын
What an amazing sharing and depth of honesty, it's so refreshing to witness such integrity and intimacy from such wonderful minds. Thank you so much 🪷
@adventuresinawareness
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kathleen! Great to hear your feedback 🙏
@dazlemwithlovelight
2 жыл бұрын
Great sharing thanks and gratitude beyond measure. After many decades on this wonderful experience I have learned that our purpose is to bring joy, peace and happiness to it. This is not available without us. Cheers from a retired soldier down under.
@kimelzen4438
2 жыл бұрын
💗
@kellyalamanou5185
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent conversation so many thanks! 2.10.59:What Rupert is saying here to Bernardo is really moving..ॐ ❤
@adventuresinawareness
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kelly - and yes we agree :)
@newtonslaw1946
2 ай бұрын
A massively important conversation. Thanks to all involved. I was in a coma 5 days and had and continue to have a complete absence of any awareness during this period. I’m not sure how to process this experience in the context of this discussion
@DeepakShakyaaa
2 жыл бұрын
You blew mind away at 2:10 by describing reality in the most powerful way that i could imagine. thank you.
@jessed.g.122
Жыл бұрын
Awesome and thanks for Bernado K being the guest and I’m positive that most of the people who really listen will have an enlarged sense of perception of all of reality!! Great stuff
@VanEazy
Жыл бұрын
The two of them are so inspiring 💓 I’ve listened so many times to them and continue to pick up new wondrous things I didn’t get before
@clivejenkins4033
10 ай бұрын
So Adam and eve took a bite from the apple from the tree of knowledge, then became meta cognitive, so before they took the bite they were acting on instinct and totally unaware of the consequences, I'm not understanding this
@kimelzen4438
2 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite spiritual food, Rupert and Bernardo together. So grateful! I can't get enough of them. If it's true that we all get what we deserve, I'm in awe of what i must have done to receive this gift beyond compare.
@adventuresinawareness
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Kim! I agree, its a great pairing. I hope this happens many more times!
@kbone8137
Жыл бұрын
As a pointer, I'd suggest changing the name of the video to "With Mind in Reality" due to the fact that people typically use their mind to 'look for' the Awareness that existence (and mind) is within. Understandable, but mispositional ignorance must be transcended. EXCELLENT video.
@reeyanmaknojiya8921
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you so much for this discussion. I have watched the previous podcasts with these two on Rupert's channel and I've always been wanting more! This is an amazing resource for people interested in these matters :)
@springlilly9672
Жыл бұрын
Bernardo, You have changed my life🙏🏽
@ecovolved
2 жыл бұрын
The "removal" exercise is profound. Thank you
@gaurishankargiri287
10 ай бұрын
"The brain is the bouncer of the heart." ❤
@ChaosPath
Жыл бұрын
Lessons is consciousness work and how mature communication is done. High quality stuff. Thanks and best wishes to all.
@MagdiNonDuality
Жыл бұрын
1:26:00 When you are not in the ground state of causeless happiness, at that moment, you are assuming the model of separation that consciousness is presenting you with. At that moment of illusory separation, you have said yes to consciousness, and you have opted for the belief that reality is limited and separate. In fact, all of it, is the play of consciousness. One could say that consciousness is opting to say yes to the model of separation which it is presenting to itself and playing it out momentarily as the personal self. Whenever you say no to the model of separation, at that moment you are sitting in the driver seat, at that moment you are recognizing your true nature, and you are not opting for the separate self model. Consciousness plays the roller coaster game until it decides to 'return' home, so to speak. Upon 'returning' home, it may still play the game of manifestation but without believing in the illusion of separation.
@adventuresinawareness
2 жыл бұрын
This is an excerpt from a 5-week course with Bernardo Kastrup & Rupert Spira. For the full discussion visit kzitem.info/news/bejne/lpqIqmesg3tkhW0 If you have more questions, or want to dive deeper together, come join the next course - Visit www.adventuresinawareness.com/ Also, if you would like to support future content, contributions are greatly appreciated at: Patreon: www.patreon.com/adventuresinawareness In the UK: pay.gocardless.com/flow/RE001YHWMCVNJB4RZFQFCR13VJE709CE One-off PayPal donations: www.paypal.com/paypalme/adventuresin
@mathieuraetz2041
Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic.
@suzychristensen8977
Жыл бұрын
It feels like Bernardo is being judged. Every experience is unique and not to be compared. Thank you for looking at your own experience from the beginning
@johnsquabbler3112
9 ай бұрын
Love these guys. You know, they could be totally wrong. Idealism is an "ism." Spirituality is not an "ism." It doesn't depend on any one philosophical or scientific view, or conceptual understanding, though these may certainly be employed by teachers wherever it's appropriate. Spirituality as a whole, or unilaterally, does not endorse the primacy of Consciousness. Some traditions do, and some don't; some teachers do and some don't. The Numinous doesn't care about our ideas, or even know what they are. This is Spirituality plus a philosophical and to an extent scientific overlay which can be useful as a pointer, but if my belief or grasping, or attachment to, or identification with, a particular conceptual modality is the only thing which is veiling the beyond Beyond, guess what I'll let go of.
@scorpionsting600
Жыл бұрын
Viz consciousness being self-aware? Question to consider: is there such a thing as knowing without a knower? Perhaps ground consciousness can be described as primordial knowingness or primordial awareness.
@mahtabmawla8792
5 ай бұрын
my dear gentlemen, thank you so much for this conversation. Sufi Mansur Al-Hallaj, who had lived between 858 - 922, was executed for saying this. Today we are fortunate. Will there be a book coming out soon?
@adventuresinawareness
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment Yes there are several books by Bernardo and Rupert which you can find on their websites 🙏
@renateuwe9033
Жыл бұрын
Agree with the previous comment! --> to dissociation: even at the lowest physical level of reality, nature shows us its dual nature: quantum fluctuations from material nothingness and merging back into material nothingness!... wherever you look: you see nothing else: dissociatuin and remerging! ...this is the dance of life - on all levels and in all areas! also the history of mankind, for example in the Bible tells of dissociation and remerging: the prodigal son!
@muthucumarasamyparamsothy4747
8 ай бұрын
Thank you Bernardo and Rupert Spira .As per Rupert's discussion , why does Infinite Consciousness wants to self aware of Its self .It is by nature Awareness ,what causes or prompts it to become aware it ? No reason , doesn't it seem confusing ?
@NorsePagan1973
4 ай бұрын
I like how Rubert ask to remove everything yet he keeps his glasses although his eyes are closed .
@buzzwordy9951
Жыл бұрын
I used to think it was noble to suffer. Hogwash. I can see how Bernardo and Rupert would hit it off. great video.
@muthucumarasamyparamsothy4747
8 ай бұрын
It is a surprising question by Bernardo, regarding consciousness returning back to original state would it be enriched or any change ? This question is the result of quantizing the Consciousness ,I think it is complete by Nature , refer the Upanishad sloka ,Poornamatha , poornamitham , poornath, poorna muthasyathe.when fullness is taken away ,from poornam, what remains is Poornam . Thanks.
@DenisaNastase
Жыл бұрын
From my inner observations I lean towards Bernardo's view of the innate telos of nature. With the sole addition that, in my view, this innate telos exists as a sort of pre-defined disposition already encoded in the fabric of the universe itself. A sort of apriori "intent" or "blueprint". Rather than an organic and spontaneous drive forming "on the spot". Basically, in order for the universe to feel the organic push or pull towards a thing or another, it feels intuitively natural that there has to be an apriori "direction" or "disposition" already imprinted in the fabric of the universe itself. Only through this innate disposition, that would act as a reference of sorts, could then the universe know "left from right". A bee will feel organically driven to seek flowers, even though the bee might have never seen flowers yet. There seems to be a certain apriori "order of things" or "blueprint" that tells bees to seek flowers :) Similarly, there might be a certain inner disposition that tells the universe to seek self awareness and self reflection. Otherwise.. what would lead the universe to feel the "pull" towards becoming self aware? Why this option and not another one? Without an innate disposition of sorts, that would act as a reference, it is my opinion that nothing in the universe would be able to be perceived. No drives, no pushes nor pulling would inform the universe of what "feels good" or not. This innate disposition might not be in the form of a conscious thought. The universe might not think to itself "I need to become self aware". Yet it might be an encoding of sorts, from which the universe enacts itself from. And who says that the magnetic force, pulling or pushing the universe towards a thing or another, is not actually a higher order of thought or intent?
@adventuresinawareness
Жыл бұрын
Lovely to read your thoughts - they make a lot of sense. Thanks! ❤
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
experience of the universe via perception, conception, and knowledge of I am. 6.20.....
@TJ-kk5zf
Жыл бұрын
lovely gentlemen
@greensleeves7165
2 жыл бұрын
Rupert says here "Consciousness is self-aware as the sun is self-luminous." The problem with this right away is that the sun is not self-luminous. It is "luminous" only when an eye is added to see it so. Bernardo says here "Consciousness does not start out self-aware." What then does its consciousness consist of? Both viewpoints are problematic. The solution, imo, is that the ground of being is "incipiently conscious" but not yet actually conscious, in the same way that the sun is "incipiently luminous" but not yet actually luminous until there is a perceiver to view its shining. In the case of consciousness, that which reflects and that which is reflected, is in a sense the same ontic substance, but consciousness (awareness) only shows forth when the ecology of being complicates at least sufficiently to allow rudimentary discrimination and bipolar reflection.
@r3b3lvegan89
2 жыл бұрын
….dude wut?
@greensleeves7165
2 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 wut dude?
@r3b3lvegan89
2 жыл бұрын
Dude where’s my car
@abbasalchemist
2 жыл бұрын
As you rightly say, Being is consciousness. The ground of Being (Ungrund) is what Jung would term the Unconscious---it is the Pleroma, the fullness and emptiness, of which everything and nothing can be said. I hesitate to use "in potential", but I know of no other way to demarcate its process of becoming. What does consciousness consist of? Consciousness is identical to the contents of consciousness--they are 2 forms of the same reality.
@greensleeves7165
2 жыл бұрын
@@abbasalchemist Exactly. There must be a "first folding" of some kind in order for consciousness to actually be. Prior to this it is, as you say, the Urgrund, consciousness-in-waiting. Perhaps it cannot become anything else OTHER than consciousness, but it is still not consciousness yet. The spawning of the world seems to be contained in this somewhere. The Urgrund may feel an "instinctive" or an "imperative" or a "desire" to create Being in order for the potential of consciousness to become actual.
@MagdiNonDuality
Жыл бұрын
Identification is the choice of universal consciousness. The entire rodeo is universal consciousness 'consciousness-ing'. Consciousness via infinite minds 'plays' all games. It conceives, creates and perceives its creation without ever anything being 'really' created.
@aprilkitten
Жыл бұрын
That drug that you were given during your procedure from the anesthesiologist is what we at the hospital call an "amnesiac". That's what they were using on all my patients for minor outpatient surgical procedures like colonoscopies or for oocyte (egg) donation aspirations in the infertility department. Some of my patients complained that they did remember feeling pain and it was awful, but most didn't remember.
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
42 localisation of conciousness seems to happen from the point of view of seperate self.
@siewkonsum7291
11 ай бұрын
The Core Subjectivity is Awareness which is aware of sufferings but it doesn't experience the sufferings. That which suffers is the temporal "small egoic self", but the eternal "Universal True Self" ie Core Subjectivity (Universal True Nature) is beyond Causality. Tang Dynasty Zen en Grandmaster *Hui Hai* (to paraphrase) says, _It (Universal True Nature) exists in a "different time-level" ie in modern terms is "different dimension", thus it is not subject to Causality in the mortal dimension._ 😊🙏🙇♂️🌷
@oscarbermejomorales8000
Жыл бұрын
¡Que belleza!, gracias.
@Mountain_Dhamma
8 ай бұрын
Inherent self awareness vs evolved self awareness is a pretty massive difference guys!
@KassJuanebe
5 ай бұрын
These are great truths. As Niels Bohr said, the opposite of a great truth is another great truth. Both approaches are epistemologically impossible to prove. Great truths are not objects that can be measured. They are constructed concepts that show their "truth" by whether they are useful to the one adopting it. See David Levy's Tools of Critical Thinking Chapter 2.
@sumanjoshi7902
Жыл бұрын
We feel more empathy with people we are attached to. It is in a way we don’t have the same intensity of emotions with every one. So it is shared being with few, not with all. That also comes and goes as experiences. So ground is sat chit aanand. All other states are experiences.
@Ser.gioBueno
2 жыл бұрын
🤯 amazing
@jaguarazul
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🥰
@claudesilverio677
5 ай бұрын
Salvianorin A seems to affect the perception of Time, As Ketamine, and can move your Consciousness through the realms of time, total dissociation of the Outer Space/TIME.
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10054 there is only screen. No second thing there
@mamavscience2977
Жыл бұрын
Descartes already did that (the mind/thought experiment mentioned here).
@valerieyersh8279
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't this from the excerpts of the podcasts?
@adventuresinawareness
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Valerie - this is from a 5-week course we did in March this year. Bernardo & Rupert have been on a couple of podcasts this year also, so there may be some overlap, but this footage hasn't been released elsewhere 🙏
@PromoMIAR
2 жыл бұрын
Love both RS and BK. However, I still struggle with the idea that we are somehow higher, smarter, closer to Truth because we are Meta-Concious. And that "Mind at large" (or GOD if you will) is therefore betheath us. We are always a step ahead of GOD.
@r3b3lvegan89
2 жыл бұрын
Well that’s a contradiction pretty much. But hey paint bombs whatever color you like…
@PromoMIAR
2 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 Explain?
@r3b3lvegan89
2 жыл бұрын
Virtually everything you said is not what Bernardo or Rupert have said whatsoever….and they made it decently clear even for the layman to understand. Neither of them said “we are one step ahead of God” and the rest of comment is the opposite of what they said. All life forms including humans are actually God’s being or Love experiencing the world through the mind/body illusion which most of us think is really our self but it is just a vehicle for experiencing limitations and creating stories. We (humans) are really just God or Spirit localizing in endless forms (there’s 8 billion humans that’s alot of forms or vehicles in which to have limited illusive experiences) and it’s all just for fun.
@PromoMIAR
2 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 Point taken. My question is more general then this particular video though. These are huge ponderings. If we are "where the rubber meets the Road" so to speak, does the Road not know where its going and only us "bits of Rubber" (being worn away each moment) can realize and consider the whole blinking journey? (Asking humbly)
@zulubeatsprince
Жыл бұрын
@PromoMIAR thats like saying your skin is higher than you because you use your skin to experience the world. Makes no sense. There isnt a higher or lower. Its all one being.
@Thesunisplasma
Жыл бұрын
Namaste🙏
@mattthompson4836
Жыл бұрын
Half of my brain is philosophical and dare I say that awful word... 'spiritual'. The other half is a science major. Suffice to say, Rupert and Bernado together is more appealing to my grey matter and heart than a Five Guys burger is to my greedy gut. Amazing. I'm now watching it again for a third time. ☝
@lookmagazine2667
2 жыл бұрын
I think Rupert makes an error - experience ITSELF does not come and go - I would therefore argue that experience is essential to me. Great conversation - thank you!
@daviddeida
2 жыл бұрын
Experiencing is different to experience.You are the experience ..Experiences happen to someone and is a reference point to the small me
@lookmagazine2667
2 жыл бұрын
@@bradcolinyoung2978 I've never had a GA. From who's point of view is the screen still there while under GA?
@robryane2169
2 жыл бұрын
experience ITSELF is not an object, it's content is.
@lookmagazine2667
Жыл бұрын
@@bradcolinyoung2978 from consciousness' point of view. If as I suggest, experience is essential to consciousness, this would be consistent with your experience of GA. Your being conscious of only consciousness in a time and spaceless realm is an inference made in the waking state but not verifiable in experience.
@lookmagazine2667
Жыл бұрын
@@robryane2169 I'm not certain I know what you mean but I think I would agree that experience is refracted by mind as a schema of objects in space and time.
@laurakelly631
Жыл бұрын
I have a question about the illusion of multiple minds in a person with dissociative personality disorder... who upon reintegration of their multiple 'minds/personalities' realizes that they were never actually multiple minds, but only the illusion of that. They were always the same mind. Here is my question: What about a situation where conjoined twins share part of the same brain. Do they have separate minds? Or is this another level of the illusion of multiple minds when there is one mind? Going from that, could it be said that all minds as separate minds is only an illusion and similarly, are also one mind?
@adventuresinawareness
Жыл бұрын
Great question Laura - of course I have no idea - but we hold 4 week q&a sessions with Bernardo occasionally, and the next one is coming up in Nov, so you could ask him yourself! The link is dandelion.events/e/r06b8
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
54 I am prior to thinking
@LesliePhillips-x9t
7 ай бұрын
❤
@moesypittounikos
2 жыл бұрын
What's with all the bot spam on here? Can't you delete them?
@maddyman1008
Жыл бұрын
I think Consciousness is Self Aware. I think it is playing hide and seek with itself. Like having an imaginary friend as a kid. Except Infinite Consciousness can have infinite friends. And each time one "dies" its like Consciousness catching itself and saying "gotcha. Good game. Go out again and hide but put on a new costume." And on it goes. What creative loving kids sits in a room doing nothing. No. ..we play! We invent games. I think 100% infinite consciousness is playing with itself for fun. Ever heard of Klee Irwin and the Self Simulation Hypothesis.....right in line here!!!!
@Simon-xi8tb
Жыл бұрын
Those two are actually ONE.
@zetristan4525
Жыл бұрын
Homer says, "Doh. You too slow. Now you can't go to da boat show" (Opening 10min drawn out, appearing wise instead of obvious)
@surthing6711
Жыл бұрын
amen
@ajsalonius8455
Жыл бұрын
My dog has died. I have Covid my partner is having abdominal aortic aneurysm surgery I am taken away from peace
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10019.. naked being is peace.
@inspired-for-life
2 жыл бұрын
So guys! What is the source or consciousness/self awareness? You are discovering the sense, understanding it, the idea of Consciousness. But you're understanding is not the source of universal consciousness. Go further. Ask what is the source of Consciousness and what is the quality of it. And is it a law and science if it proves itself in our awareness of Consciousness. That sounds practical. So it might be a principle. It might be a Truth like math. Certainly not material in its quality or realization. So could we be so bold to allow this power, source be Spirit? A divine creator? Come on guys! Let's move on beyond all the talk tslk talk about just self awareness or the awareness of being. Could this be God? And I don't mean the old idea of a God up in the sky, but a Omni-Principle.
@enwe6487
Жыл бұрын
sure, there are a lot of teachers calling consciousness 'god', implying us as part of it (like in an analogy, the nerve cells of an eye viewing something but not knowing they all have different experiences within the same organism so it can form it's experience as a whole) or the expression of it, having put ourselves basically here in this human experience (as alan watts liked to say, if you'd get bored as consciousness so you might get to the idea to put yourself inside a kind of dream which isn't under control and you aren't aware anymore just for the fun of it). On another note - nature has no laws written up somewhere it has to obey, math isn't true neither, it's a human habit to try to find causation and connection whenever we see patterns, but it's rather the meaning we put into throught our human view than any intention principle how we like to understand it. you just can't describe nature or even miniscule events there fully objectively, just trying to negates the objectivity itself and puts tat condition on it. Pretty much how Hume argued it - it's more human intuition that actual natural reality.
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10032 end
@stevedawson6979
Жыл бұрын
Rupert Spira and Neville Goddard would be amazing.
@renateuwe9033
Жыл бұрын
The Matrix: 🔴...thanks🙏🏽👍🏽😊
@cranebird2257
Ай бұрын
There must be no difference between us.
@Pegasus4213
Жыл бұрын
Why do individual humans attempt their version of what reality really is? There is a source that has given the answers. It is called channelling. Jane Roberts 'Seth' personality and 'Elias' speaking through Mary Ennis. Their answer is that what is behind the facade of the physical experience, is a form of spiritual consciousness, which forms all realities that are conceived by consciousness.
@joh8982
10 ай бұрын
Are you sure about that?
@Pegasus4213
10 ай бұрын
@@joh8982 I wouldn't say it otherwise. Read Mark and understand; that Reality is consciousness having experiences.
@joh8982
10 ай бұрын
As a philosopher now aged 63 I know better than to take anecdotal stories as gospel. And who the heck is Mark? If it's the bible one you have already lost me...I had years of that nonsense pumped into me. With best wishes, Joan.x
@Pegasus4213
10 ай бұрын
@@joh8982 For some reason, the spell checker wanted to change the lowercase word mark in my sentence, so I thought why not, it raises it up a little. No, it's not a reference to the Bible. I'm not referencing religion. Can you explain why anecdotal contributions are not accepted in your view? I think, that what people say can be very insightful and lead to greater understanding. What does philosophy tell you about the true nature of reality?
@joh8982
10 ай бұрын
@@Pegasus4213 Philosophy over millenia tells you that there are many and varied ideas as to the nature of reality...try reading Bishop Berkley, Locke, Wittgenstein, Plato, Thales, Parmenedes and all the other Greeks (not to mention all the Eastern thinkers over the centuries). I would never direct anyone to read one over the others. It's all up for conjecture and discussion. Go into any normal café and you will find anecdotal contributions all of which can lead to a greater understanding of reality.
@JackHarrison-x5c
2 ай бұрын
Whatever can be objectively inferred, and that is to say 'objectively' measured and observed as an ever-changing arbitrary approximate of our rendering (or imagining) cannot be 'that' which is measuring or observing (or imagining) i.e. universal Consciousness; nonbinary, nonlinear & noncomputational Being or Mind or Context. Thus the unqualified 'objective' inference that 'is' the feeling or sensation misinterpreted to be 'an I' - isn't actually You' (the Absolute) but 'is', on the contrary, the crude sum TOTAL of all you 'objectively' conceive, perceive, and are not (i.e. the entirety of the imaginary 'objective universe' or data structure; an insentient projection of our continuous rendering or filtration) - if you do not 're-cog-nise' that primary illusion (i.e. that misinterpreted sensation or vibration assumed to be 'I') you (the Absolute) will imagine yourself (verb) to be looking from 'it' ('from' what you are not) as a non-existent 'object' or 'pronoun' now believed to be traversing a real 'timeline' (a nonexistent 'past'-future') - as an erroneously objectified 'subject' - when there is neither a real 'object' nor 'subject' happening - only pure Subjectivity alone exists (i.e. the 'shareable-wave' and not the imaginary 'particle'; an arbitrary approximate, unfound) - You!' (the timeless Absolute) are dreaming (verb) This very existence, right here and now, is indescribable or noncomputational. Basically, there exists ONLY 'the field' of Self-consciousness; being so intolerable that we compulsively project the unqualified inference of 'space-time-causality' for quasi 'company' or 'diversity' (imaginary 'multiplicity') For Nature (i.e. You!') abhors 'a vacuum' - that is to say; Self-consciousness or Mind ''abhors'' its universal and timeless identity of pure Being or pure potentiality that is the non-objective knowledge; 'I am' - prior to name or form i.e. indivisible Being - never really subject to inference ('space-time') despite any appearance or claim to the contrary - our inherent freedom as self-knowledge or pure Consciousness is so complete or conclusive that, creatively, a welcomed misidentity (or impossibility) is merely suggested, proposed (or projected) and thus an imaginary mourning of an ever-living and ever-loving Being seems to 'happen', such is the schizophrenia of infinite Being (Consciousness) such is our freedom.. #Selfhypnosis #Selftalk #Boundlessdreaming #Oneness
@sampoornamkannan
Ай бұрын
When Reality is in the mind it is only reality, a pale imposter. Reality cannot be held by the mind or be in the mind. A map cannot be the territory.
@adventuresinawareness
Ай бұрын
By "mind" we mean consciousness, or awareness 🙏
@sampoornamkannan
Ай бұрын
@@adventuresinawareness Consciousness and awareness can be lumped together as sajatiya bhedam, but mind is altogether different. Consciousness is in the realm of reality. Mind is in the realm of illusion. so , no comparison, agreed that both are felt in an individual when introspected with eyes closed. As an example, when energy courses thro' a mass it produces a magnetic field, which is temporary but does the job. When life force courses thro' a body it induces a mag.field called mind which does the job, but is temporary. It is like comparing life with mind.😇
@adventuresinawareness
Ай бұрын
@@sampoornamkannan nice distinctions and makes sense! Different traditions and different people use words in different ways - in this context by mind we mean awareness, following the western philosophical tradition, which is perhaps less sophisticated and has developed fewer distinctions 🙏
@PLAYINGTOGETHER-nj8jt
Ай бұрын
🔩so In a nutshell utill we become full?
@maurylee5239
Жыл бұрын
When Bernardo talked about being his childhood self again, he was acknowledging that the child now had meta consciousness. He could be the child and experience the child, but he could now appreciate the child from a different perspective.
@joas162
Жыл бұрын
Accidently bumped into Bernardo through an online article about AI. This is the first thing I see and hear after this and my mind is blown! I'm studying and practicing Dzogchen on a modest level and this knowledge aligns very well with it. Excited to hear more 🙏🏻
@r3b3lvegan89
2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a talk session with Bernardo Kastrup, Rupert Spira, Eben Alexander and Ed Kelly? It would be very beneficial to our collective human family (let alone animals) to have a collaboration between SAND(science and non duality) and IANDS(international association for near death research) headed by Bruce Grayson and Ed Kelly and Jim B Tucker and in touch with Eben Alexander who’s testimony is absolutely breath taking and can’t be debunked. One Love
@johnporterfield7523
Жыл бұрын
I've yet to hear Rupert discuss topics like reincarnation in his non dualistic model or why the one mind thing would benefit from endless misery, war or infant death... You know the big questions of life. I understand his views but it's too simplistic for me
@adventuresinawareness
Жыл бұрын
there's a short video on this topic here - I think I've seen others. Not sure if it fully satisfies the question, but it does come up! kzitem.info/news/bejne/r6mht2yqnXlljHo&ab_channel=RupertSpira
@joh8982
10 ай бұрын
Yes, never mind the 'universe having fun' crap...Look at human (or animal) existence and tell me anyone thinks it's fun. Respectfully x
@robertoalexandre4250
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful dialog between two essential voices for our times. Roger Penrose stated that he could imagine a universe without consciousness, but something seemed off in such a statement. To imagine a universe without consciousness is not to imagine our same world just with nobody there, since color, shape, texture, scent, movement and everything else perception, including "luminosity" (as a comment has pointed out), captures as external objects/phenomena is also removed. Such a universe is inconceivable or is no-thing. Whatever the universe is, it is always apprehended/experienced/cognisized/conceptualized, etc., through a first-person perspective. What the Indian yogis such as Patanjali or Sri Ramana refer to as pure consciousness (i.e. non dualism) is simply the state where all thinking recedes and only pure perception (certainly as an experienced feeling of presence) exists wherein the perceived (observed) and the perceiver (observer) have merged and the sensation (illusory) of a separate world out there from my world within ceases. Patanjali calls this the stilling of all patterns of conciousness. Very much like J.L. Borges' image of the book of sand whose writing is erased or the blank screen minus the fleeting film images.
@divingdave2945
Жыл бұрын
1:08:00 I would say that I don't think consciousness gets back to anything or changes in any way, because time is an illusory creation of consciousness, so for true reality there is no time and thus nothing to go back to or to change with.
@DawnyDarko
5 ай бұрын
Who knows? Everyone has their own take, but until you realise it for yourself it is not real and simply someone else's knowledge, opinion, guidance, reality or just an imagined idea created from logical reasoning; also known as your mind
@lookmagazine2667
2 жыл бұрын
1:38......How we can return to groundstate if groundstate only exists in relation to the chaos of experience? They appear to be two ends of a stick....the stick and each end can be conceptually separated but in truth it's just one thing.
@daviddeida
2 жыл бұрын
Groundstate is empty ness,or no thing ness ,it does not exist in relation to any thing.It is experience.When one THINKS they are having an experience thats when separation appears to happen.When you realise its all appearing as you that is the return.Though return implies you left,you did'nt.You just thought you left.
@mysoulwaitsinsilence
4 ай бұрын
I was brought here through my "religious" background and interest in Rupert's teachings. I am very sceptical of scientists, until Bernardo began describing his personal/spiritual experiences as a replica of my own 🤯
@michaeldillon3113
2 жыл бұрын
This is an intense discussion that shouldn't obscure the fact that Bernardo is expressing a very very profound idea that matter is a ' product ' of Consciousness not the other way around . He gives fantastic scientific and philosophical bases for this point of view . For this I regard him as the Galileo of Consciousness.. All three participants deserve great respect for this civilized debate 🕊️ E=🕉️
@NondescriptMammal
Жыл бұрын
There is no scientific basis for this point of view, not in any conventional sense of the word "scientific".
@michaeldillon3113
Жыл бұрын
@@NondescriptMammal Well I think in some of his talks BK gives very good scientific evidence for Idealism . Is there scientific evidence for multiverses or indeed emergent consciousness?
@NondescriptMammal
Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldillon3113 Zero scientific evidence exists for multiverses, in most versions of multiverse theories, no empirical evidence of their existence is even possible. I don't know enough about emergent consciousness to say one way or the other.
@NondescriptMammal
Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldillon3113 I like to keep my mind open even to theories that sound crazy though... can you point me to some of the very good scientific evidence he has presented, for the idea that our consciousness literally creates the physical reality around us?
@kolarz2128
Жыл бұрын
@@NondescriptMammal your experience, instead theory
@AlokAsthana1954
Жыл бұрын
I am a Hindu Indian. My scriptures of Vedanta tell me the same thing. However, they make a point succinctly but do not explain, clarify or expound on it. Hence it gets lost to us who are at the yet un-evolved state. But these two, and many others in the western world, go the extra mile to make it understandable even to us. Many thanks..
@raj50001
Жыл бұрын
Because it is not something which can be explained but can only be experienced through meditation. Focus of Indian yogic system is on the experience and realisation not mere words. You can hear the explanation a thousand times but until you have realised it, it will remain unclear.
@DawnyDarko
5 ай бұрын
@@raj50001I agree. The West makes it intellectually interesting, appears to explain and gift knowledge which we accumulate. Food for thought from which we can generate sensations of contentment, ego, superiority etc This can be a trap if one clings to that knowledge (they did not discover themselves) as it then frames/creates foundations and boundaries for the new reality of the proceeding moments. A form of confusion. Unless you realise these things for yourself, thus 'know', then you have not really progressed any further than before. I would say that even reading books, watching talks etc has the same effect - pollution of mind with ideas. The best way is to not know anything and discover the wonder step by step as a child. We were all in that state at the beginning of our awakenings, then we tend to get lost in intellectual titilation and egoic satisfaction.
@allenlunde7908
2 ай бұрын
Because of a chronic medical condition, I have to go undergo general anesthesia about every six months. I have begun to ask the doctors to let me know when the medication begins so I can observe the effect. I’ve come to realize there is consciousness in that place. It is beyond space/time. It has no attributes. It is perfectly peaceful. We associate psychedelics with the idea of confronting our true nature. I realize that experience only opens us up to more content of experience. Yes, the experience of ego death is illuminating but it is still awareness of objects. I’ve come to see the experience of being under general anesthesia as a much closer analog to reality. Infinite consciousness undifferentiated by any experience, wrapped in a black velvet of probability.
@coscienzapura0
2 жыл бұрын
dear bernardo, about the pain or burden of empathy: you say that you see that A is attacking B, and you feel B's pain because you got it that B is really you (or, as you said: it's not that "it could be us" but "it IS us"). that means: consciousness localized as bernardo got it that B is nothing else than the same consciousness localized as B, hence the pain. but do see that also A is nothing else than the same consciousness localized as A? and localized as A it is having a good time, in the same moment and situation as it has a bad time localized as B, and as bernardo. so, in this example, there is 1 situation causing 3 different emotional experiences for one and the same consciousness. it is bathing in pure joy of creation and variation, above any dual concepts of morality. that means, empathy "hurts" on one side of the dual medallion, but on the other side there are positive feelings. so, for somebody who suffers under painful empathy, it is recommended to allow oneself to feel also the other side. and THEN come back to reality: there are no others, there is no bernardo who could suffer under being bernardo. all of this is just consciousness hiding from itself, and its best trick it has up its sleeve, is the illusion of duality, you and them. in that package you find "good" and "bad", "useful" and "useless", "attacker" and "attacked" etc, and as unconscious individuals we are choosing sides all the time, in order to invent our stories about ourselves and the rest of the world. but you are not unconscious anymore, bernardo. "you" just believe that a conscious person does not have "your" fascination with thoughts anymore, which for "you" seems to be an indicator for "enlightenment". but this is just another random thought. the one who came up with that story inside of you, is the one you should be watching closely, until it isn't there anymore (knowing then that it never existed in the first place). and, more importantly, how could you NOT be enlightend, if you are able to say "i am not enlightend"? only someone who knows "enlightened" can make a statement about "not enlightened". as you can say "i'm cold" only if you know "i'm not cold". ask "what do i not want to give up? what am i afraid to lose, so that i cling on being a "person bernardo"? what is it that i'm getting out of telling myself the story of the "person who doesn't get it"? " because, whatever you are afraid to lose or hope to get, it doesn't exist outside of your personal beliefsystem. so it must be only your personal beliefsystem that "keeps" you "outside" of realizing that consciousness is, but bernardo is not. with love from spain
@rooruffneck
2 жыл бұрын
My main question has to do with the lack of 'polarity', for lack of a better word, in how Rupert speaks of the ultimate foundation. His example of squashed ball 'yearning' to expand to its natural shape is nice....but part of the balls natural/original state is a the beginning urge to compress. I don't think there is some frozen point of Ultimate Reality where it is not already actively expressing its creative polaric nature. But many teachers like Rupert would say that polaric creativity is wonderful but one step away from fundamental reality. My little experience and most of the evidence suggests to me that this dual dynamics are at the beautiful core of what eternity is. To be clear, 'polarity' is not the same thing as 'duality' or the subject/object dynamic.
@dattatreya_acke
2 жыл бұрын
There's this other conversation, between Bernardo and Igor Kufayev, which touches upon the totality and fullness of Human Experience as it can be experienced by all of us being that Walking Universe: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pGp8nGeqcIyoppw
@thomassoliton1482
3 ай бұрын
Translation: Everything we “know”, that is what we perceive / sense or can think about (memories of past experiences, which is also a form of perception) is not “true” understanding of reality. This is because it is like listening to a friend on a telephone: you have “faith” that that voice is from someone you know, but your knowledge in this case is indirect - you only know the transmission of their voice into a microphone and then an electric current ending in a speaker at your phone. RS says that the only true knowledge is self-knowledge. Is that “special”? I think not. “Self-knowledge” fundamentally is when you ask yourself, “am I conscious?”. The answer to that question comes when you pause a moment and remember that something has changed since you asked the quesion - you notice where you are, you see something go by, you hear a dog bark… something that proves that you are not exactly the same as you were a few moments ago - i.e. that you exist independently of any other experience or sensation. And yet, you are the “same” you - how can that be? The “you” that realizes you are not exactly the same from moment to moment… who is that? Our dualistic-thinking mind cannot tolerate that dichotomy, that paradox. And yet, that is the essence of what Rupert indicates is the “real” us, the only thing that is non-illusory. The problem is, that’s just how our brain works, comparing past and present experiences all the time. That comparison that tells us we are “self-aware” is the origin of our dualistic outlook on life. It’s also an illusion, just a continuous one - like watching a TV screen with white noise. It does not signify anything different than everything else we know about reality. Whether we see a screen with white noise or a screen with lots of images, it’s still the same experience of the screen!
@AriRuuska
Жыл бұрын
Great discussion. 👌 Comment to "words are hints" topic. In my experience language is for communication not for understanding. What I mean, understanding happens via direct experience, which means experiences without a storyline, and without thinking.
@MagdiNonDuality
Жыл бұрын
The question posed by BK (1:08:00), namely 'If consciousness goes back to that original state, having gone through the experience of apparent limitation, does it come back richer?' This question overlooks that the 'great journey' of consciousness is not a real journey. It is only a sort of play within consciousness, a sort of play that consciousness is conducting. In other words, there is no reality to this 'great journey' which appears to be undertaken. Consciousness does not go through the experience of limitation. It only seems to do so. As Bernardo says, limitation is apparent, not real limitation. Which leads us to the possibility that there was no before or after, when it comes to universal consciousness. Just sharing an observation.
@wesleygovender6579
Жыл бұрын
There is someone who looks after us from behind the curtain, in truth we are not here. Rumi
@alandean2
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer to listen to Bernado Kastrup. Rupert Spiro's approach is too reliant on intuition and belief for me
@LesliePhillips-x9t
6 ай бұрын
That’s why they’re perfect together! They balance each other almost perfectly. It’s helpful for reaching a larger audience.
@andyherod653
4 ай бұрын
That’s kinda the whole point if this conversation 😅
@MindRiderFPV
Жыл бұрын
The best discussion I ever listened to. ❤. Amazing humans.
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10037 death of finite mind. Completely did not resolve into infinite conciousness
@angelotuteao6758
9 ай бұрын
The question of what universal consciousness gains from its dissociative experience might better be framed as an exploration of its potentialities. When form drops away, consciousness merges into itself. It’s primordial state is pregnant with latent potential. Dissociation is the means by which it experiences all possible aspects- like an ever bubbling pot of limitless ingredients…
@adventuresinawareness
9 ай бұрын
Beautifully put 🙏🙏
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10046 death as dream . whatever content is there but awareness present is same like screen
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
13... essential nature of ourself must be same as the universe. Because We and the universe same. like movie analogy if we discover any objesct's reality is screen then same as all object's reality is screen.
@henvestments0-1productions28
6 ай бұрын
REALITY IS CONSCIOUS IMPOSSIBLE THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
@rosiesbitsandbobs4085
2 жыл бұрын
I got it, Consciousness! For that is all there is! 😆🙏
@40JoCharles
Жыл бұрын
Energy, pure energy 🙏🏼
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10056 localisation within localisation in dream state
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
activity of cociousness like in 3d movie googles 38...
@ashiskarmakar7292
2 жыл бұрын
10058.... Waking state with dream state correlated
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