"The value of a work of art is not determined by whether it has a happy ending or not.Nietzsche hopes that we can value life as a work of art itself. To see life as something that does not need a happy ending to justify itself, because it's Beauty eternally justifies itself" This makes so much sense, when I think about Berserk.
@lenas6246
2 жыл бұрын
@dirtyvarmint And? "Happy" does not necessarily means hollow hollywood style ending. No way to know now anyway
@michaelnazar9358
4 ай бұрын
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@xdgamer4554
4 ай бұрын
We need happy endings now
@johnboy9596
3 жыл бұрын
Just rewatched the Farnese segment. Thank you for reminding me why I loved her arc. Power is a closely held value to me because there are real issue in this world that require strength and effort to solve, issues that effect people in profound ways. Sometimes, when I fall short of what I think I need to be, I fall into pathological thinking similar to Farnese. That my powerlessness is an existential reality, that I don't deserve to be happy because I can't easy the burden of reality for anyone. It's easy to forget that beyond what impact I have on the world, my competence should be an expression of myself. I will try to carry myself forward by loving who I am today and who I can become tomorrow, instead of merely trying to negate myself for the sake of others.
@terryhsiao1745
3 жыл бұрын
Powerful words. Very well said . Thank you
@davidsteece4283
2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@barkbork7528
Жыл бұрын
Do you have any advice for someone who considers themselves existentially powerless in the way you describe?
@Shiroi0moi
Жыл бұрын
@@barkbork7528 Embrace absurdism and start lifting/acquire means for self defence. Read up on who is at fault for the sorry state of the world
@kenpaichi-nl4dv
6 ай бұрын
do you mean we should not help others
@guts1258
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the "In Memory of Kentaro Miura" now hurts so fucking bad. Didn't even know much about the man, but I feel so hurt by his passing.
@putyograsseson
3 жыл бұрын
I cried like a little bitch
@antoniosugar7044
3 жыл бұрын
Same man, same...
@loopygordo
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be alive today without his work to inspire me. His passing hurt so much even though I never knew him personally.
@rajyavardhansingh4491
3 жыл бұрын
@@loopygordo B ru H
@georgewashington9445
3 жыл бұрын
@@loopygordo :(
@shinjinobrave
3 жыл бұрын
I was once on a message board where people were hyping themselves up over how powerful and cool Guts would be once he became an apostle. I was baffled as to how someone could miss the entire point so intensely. The only possible ending for Berserk leads through Guts telling Fate to go fuck itself and soldiering on through life's pain, whatever comes.
@Bojoschannel
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's something worth hyping, rather lamenting, but thru the manga Guts has shown that at times he's unable to handle his "beast of darkness". Something may happen, Casca dying or all of his friends dying, that could drive Guts to activate the behelith and in blind rage turn into an apostle, then the history could become something similar to devilman i guess. Not that it was certain to happen, but we got hints for it thru the manga. Then the worst tragedy possible comes: The man who fought monsters turned into a monster
@sebastiantafoya3609
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bojoschannel he can't activate a behelith he is marked as a sacrifice, he will die at some point and join the heart of evil.
@slothrop9345
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiantafoya3609 I dunno, some characters have already made hints that the Behelit Guts has might be "his". I think, at the very least, Miura wanted us to consider it a possiblity in order to cause more anxiety and paranoia within the reader in regards to the path Guts will walk down.
@shinjinobrave
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bojoschannel I tend to disagree. Not because of the lore, that's malleable. Miura could always tell us that there is a special secret type of behelit that likes fucking with the reigning godhand and will give him release from his humanity through some convoluted ritual. The reason I disagree is that I think Cuck is right in that it is a Nietzschean tragedy and not a Schopenhauerian one. It's all about struggling against fate and not about cowardly resignation. When Guts is stabbed in the mouth by Rosine, he bites down. When Guts is restrained in the eclipse and he can't smash in the teeth of the monster holding him... he stabs off his own arm. That's the core of his character.
@r2dezki
3 жыл бұрын
Idk, just let people enjoy their anime how they want instead of telling how they're supposed to enjoy things.
@LaSanya2001
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I just finished watching... and I'm just amazed.... I honestly think this is your best work so far. I've started crying around the 53 minute mark, especially after Guts theme started playing alongside the footage.... just...Bravo and thank you so much for this video. RIP Kentaro Miura
@DG-st5df
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I felt something bubbling up at that point too. And being a struggling artist myself made it even more poignant. This entire video gave me some energy to try again and harder, like Berserk used to do. You did it justice, CCK.
@Jaspagion
3 жыл бұрын
where did you watch it?
@leandoer1277
2 жыл бұрын
couldn't hold back the tears as well
@13lack13ird
Жыл бұрын
Read it, the anime doesn't do it justice
@LaSanya2001
Жыл бұрын
@@13lack13ird Don't know if you meant me, but I have already read all of it by this video release. GOATed as always
@danielsan901998
3 жыл бұрын
This is the most appealing explanation of Nietzschean philosophy i have ever seen. Every video that talked about slave morality felt wrong until this video, now i want to read nietzsche books and learn his philosophy.
@jonathanboram7858
3 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche is my favorite philosopher to read, he writes with jokes and poetry just as much as with dense essays. His novel Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a good starting place, it provides his guide on how to move past conventional morality towards something new, but you can read his books essentially in any order. I started with On the Genealogy of Morals, which is his most dense and purposeful book. This video is mostly drawing from On the Genealogy of Morals, Twilight of the Idols, The Birth of Tragedy, and a little bit of Beyond Good and Evil. Happy reading.
@josephparkes6412
3 жыл бұрын
I’d disagree about starting with Thus Spoke Zarathustra unless you’re really familiar with the bible (loads of references). I had read like 3 or 4 of Nietzsches books before Z and was quite baffled, he uses a lot of symbolism: hammers, digestion, mountains and abysses. I would read his books in the order they appear in The Basic Writings of Nietzsche by Walter Kaufmann
@dahterrasse
3 жыл бұрын
The explanation of slave morality as a failed coping mechanism is probably the most useful interpretation. I like to draw connections to Camus's Absurdism, where the individual facing Absurd is like the slave facing subjugation by the master, and Camus offers a different way of dealing with it than the failed coping mechanism Nietzsche diagnosed. When Camus presents alternatives, i.e. when he talks about the "Absurd man", it is noteworthy how much time he spends on the (tragic) actor, mirroring Nietzsche's aesthetic view of life and embracing of tragedy.
@frrascon
3 жыл бұрын
Surely the best reactionary philosopher.
@mattgilbert7347
3 жыл бұрын
I would not start with TSZ. I started with Birth of Tragedy and then sort of muddled around out of order. Genealogy of Morals and The Gay Science are both good ones to start with. The former is his most systematic work, while the latter contains themes found throughout his body of work - not to mention some killer aphorisms and the famous parable of the madman
@bebopobama4686
3 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny to hear him go from talking about deep philosophical concepts at the end to reading off the supporters when they have names like “tendies123”
@LaSanya2001
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I got a notification from you and I get excited, and then I see, it is about Berserk and my heart skipped a beat because I'd never expect this collision between 2 high quality projects. Words cannot describe how excited I am to watch this video. Will definitely save it up to enjoy it along with some really nice food and stuff.
@lungelosibisi9831
Жыл бұрын
Bro just made the greatest video on the entire internet explaining Nietzscheans philosophy and the parallels seen within Berserk and thought we wouldn't notice.
@ulysses5340
Жыл бұрын
True
@nikolaopacic8482
7 ай бұрын
I mean yeah… That’s that’s the point of the video…
@MrLigonater
2 жыл бұрын
Listening to this made me come to a tangential realisation that the scene where Guts convinces Farnese to fight instead of pray is similar to when Griffith saved Casca not by killing her rapist, but giving her a sword and having her save herself.
@specialknees6798
2 жыл бұрын
Teach a man to fish…
@thedokkodoka4349
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jaimeruiz7837
Жыл бұрын
So does that mean Guts will eventually rape her??
@araf757
Жыл бұрын
@@jaimeruiz7837 Bruh
@NonExistingName
3 жыл бұрын
Not only did you teach me about Nietzsche flawlessly in the most appealing way I've seen, you've also made me appreciate Berserk even more. I'm honestly baffled, as Berserk is my absolute favorite piece of media, I had no idea I could even like it more. Thank you
@euronkajtazi1956
3 жыл бұрын
Weren't you writing a book on Nietzsche? This has been intensely captivating and I'd love to keep learning about him.
@RadicalShiba1917
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he was! It'll be out on November 9th :)
@silvorant7296
3 жыл бұрын
@@RadicalShiba1917 that's on my birthday wow :o
@lynnixvarjo9150
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is published by now "How to Philosophize with a Hammer and Sickle - Nietzsche and Mary for the 21st Century"
@eduardmanecuta5350
Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the title of the book and name of the author please?
@ivan_ivankovich
Жыл бұрын
@@eduardmanecuta5350 'How to Philosophize with a Hammer and Sickle - Nietzsche and Marx in the 21st century' by Jonas Čeika
@MichaelSaba
3 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see you tackle Berserk and relate it to the writings of that Most Excellent Lad Friedrich. Miura's work is the "will to power" in manga form -- a saga about the refusal to allow oneself to be subdued by the changing winds of physical environment or social circumstance. No matter how trapped and alone you may feel, there is always hope for the future as long as you're willing to let people into your life, and as long as you keep struggling against even the most impossible odds.
@deep_fried_analysis
3 жыл бұрын
Words to live by, friend. An uneventful life is a boring one, and one without pain is without meaning.
@schmebulockjizz
3 жыл бұрын
You can pretty much project whatever thoughts you have into berserk and say how genius it is lol
@putyograsseson
3 жыл бұрын
@@schmebulockjizz can’t wait to play the shit out of you in 5 months 😍
@luizy6701
3 жыл бұрын
@@putyograsseson Bro, get a room and a bucket. You're leaking 😂
@hisholiness4537
3 жыл бұрын
@@putyograsseson what weapon will you be using? For me it's definitely Claymore.
@abhiroopdas3232
3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the better Berserk analysis videos I have seen so far. Very well-written and intriguing. There is no dearth of manga/anime masterpieces out there for you to explore, enjoy and dissect. Looking forward to your work. Subbed.
@Obitus89
Ай бұрын
Is Griffith example of Machiavellism ?
@AngstUrnacht
6 ай бұрын
Whenever people use Nietzsche to praise Griffith, I always come back to this video. I cannot understand how people fundamentally misunderstand Griffith in this way. He, although having a strong ambition, is extremely susceptible to guilt and resentment, and is so weak that he acts impulsively and gives up his humanity because he cannot handle it. In other words, he is a true hedonist: he forgoes self actualization for carnal pleasures in order to escape, or rather, ignore life itself.
@MrZalb
3 жыл бұрын
I've always maintained that Miura had no intention of "ending" Berserk. How could it be possible to end the eternal struggle of being? It continues through all of us. Life and art are not separate.
@MrZalb
3 жыл бұрын
ALSO would love a Buddhist analysis of Berserk. Schopenhauer just needed a little 4 noble truths in his life hehe
@mouwersor
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrZalb Schopenhauer was directly influenced by eastern philosophies like that. It is the life-denying aspects of those philosophies which Nietzsche, and also Berserk, argues against.
@MrZalb
3 жыл бұрын
@@mouwersor I don't see eastern philosophy as life-denying at all. For instance if we look at the first noble truth: life is suffering. This is not a value judgement but a simple recognition of the nature of being. Did the Buddha not preach "the middle way"? He realized the fault in both hedonism and asceticism. Why then would Schopenhauer preach asceticism and life denial? As the video points out, I think those are his western influences coming into play. a total misinterpretation of eastern philosophy. But I'd like to just protect myself by saying I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm a total armchair philosopher.
@mouwersor
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrZalb The whole point of Buddhism is to escape suffering by stopping the cycle of rebirth, to literally not want and to not be is the goal of Buddhism. How is that not life-denying.
@MrZalb
3 жыл бұрын
@@mouwersor I'll admit for years I thought this too and experimented with psychedelics to try and reach a permanent state of enlightenment or nirvana. I realized the folly of my ways when it occurred to me what that meant: the only state of being where there is no suffering and bliss for all eternity....nirvana is death... I think it's a very common mistake when people start learning about Buddhism. And honestly I'm not a good enough writer to articulate my thoughts. All I know is that when I met a monk in Bodhgaya he wasn't there to judge me for living my western way, or starve himself piously. He ate breakfast with me like any other, and told me not to worry about the concept of enlightenment. And right now I think I kinda get what he was getting at. For me Buddhism is about being more aware of reality. To recognize the beauty in the totality. To not hold on to toxic ideas or beliefs. to recognize that one day I will die. I will attain nirvana, but until that day I will suffer because that IS life. So no use trying to avoid it. ;)
@pan_bacchanal
2 жыл бұрын
Today my 7-year old sister told me: "sometimes I like to feel sad, sometimes i like to feel angry and annoyed, sometimes - to feel lost and abandoned". I wouldn't have understood what she was talking about and would have panicked and thought of depression problems, if I hadn't watched your video, specifically about greek's affirmation of most tragic aspects of life. She also love to play little drama scenes with kids when she is holding on top of slide and asking other kids "save her from falling" only to reliesing her grip and sliding down as soon as some kid is trying to "save her" - and surprisingly other kids actually find excitment in these seemingly unhappy scenarios Kids actuallly fell this need for affirmation of tragedy
@chyeahfurries
2 жыл бұрын
Dionysian sister
@JSmusiqalthinka
2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of this: kzitem.info/news/bejne/xmui2puGaaaiZmk
@tsdoihasdoihasdoih2493
Жыл бұрын
based
@HeatherHolt
Жыл бұрын
A seven year old used the word “abandoned?” Wow, that’s pretty impressive… my 16 year old stepson wouldn’t even use that in a sentence when referring to himself.
@nPr26_50
Жыл бұрын
I initially booted up this video merely to kill the time. I am not even into anime, in fact I have somewhat of an aversion for it, much less watched Berserk, but I ended up finding this video extremely profound. I admire Nietzsche for having the guts to delve deep into the human psyche, be radically honest with himself and stare into the abyss as it were, but ultimately I disagree with his life affirming philosophy. Why would you say yes to all of life's suffering? That just seems masochistic to me. The explanation provided is that you're promised growth in psychological strength if you undergo suffering. Much has been said in this video about how slave morality emerges as an elaborate coping mechanism, but how is this not a form of coping? You're still working under the framework of trying to find meaning to all the senseless hardships.
@tomio8072
Жыл бұрын
I guess you could say it is arguably a better cope than that of slave morality. If we have to cope with life, should we try to either convince ourselves that the world is such a way as to aid us in our ability to grow and become more powerful? Or should we call a part of it evil, in order to dismiss it as an obstacle which is to be blamed for us living in our suffering, and - implied - seeing life as worth only living if we can get rid of that suffering? It's up to us to decide.
@cwilliams808
3 жыл бұрын
Nietzsche is so often misrepresented or under-summarized. Thank you for this video, and for doing justice to both my favorite philosopher and one of my favorite animes.
@LuciferianStrings
3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see something on Max Stirner, especially now that you’ve delved so deeply into Nietzche, as Max is considered by many to be his predecessor although it cant really be known if Nietzche even read Stirner. Still, his ideas of Egoism, Ownness, and his proto-anarchist thought is very interesting and there is very little on youtube that does him any justice. Great video.
@Diod161
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I'm happy to have seen this comment.
@DarkCloudGather
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Ragnar Redbeard, Till, Dahn, and much more. I would even go as far as to include Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian. It's interesting how those philosophies were relatively close to each other and those writers had thoughts that eventually lead to the idea of the Superman, it is probably an evolution of higher civilization. Although I will admit and many writers of the time do, that they were influenced by Darwin.
@kratos141000
3 жыл бұрын
Stirner is one of the most disliked men by Marxists.
@LuciferianStrings
3 жыл бұрын
@@kratos141000 i know, marx didnt really like stirner and tried to refute his philosophy on the german ideology but he ended up just kind of misrepresenting him
@crowofcainhurst
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that we will never see the ending of Berserk and it is safe to assume that Guts will forever struggle against his fate and will never see his happy endings, makes Berserk is too realistic, parallel with real life.
@halfpintrr
2 жыл бұрын
Miura’s protégé has said he might try and finish it.
@mfruji
2 жыл бұрын
@dirtyvarmint thank you
@frog6054
2 жыл бұрын
@dirtyvarmint So you will just abuse your child then. This is why I'm anti natalism.
@alexj-t2331
Жыл бұрын
@@halfpintrryes the whole point of Muria pausing Berserk to create other Manga was to train his assistants to work on Berserk
@Ohnogriffith
6 ай бұрын
Miura himself said berserk would have a happy ending. But berserk fans like you cone to a bizarre headcanon like this. I knew berserk fans weren't that smart but lmfaooo
@RVGODZILLA
3 жыл бұрын
The prodigal sunn has returned! PCE yo
@MegaCygnusX1
2 жыл бұрын
As a student of Classical History and a Berserk fan, your comparison of Guts and Dionysis blew my mind. Overall incredible video essay.
@stravvman
Жыл бұрын
35:51 So there won't be resentment if everybody will be powerful? But is it possible? Can everybody become master? Also is resentment the only reaction to the lack of power? I don't think so.
@LightUpTheSkys
3 жыл бұрын
There is a Brazilian song called "Aleluia" , it has a beatiful verse "Even with death awaiting for me i go to the sea , i go , all i know is to live and living is how i am going to die " it is joyful and sad how the constrasts of life show how the sublime can be painfull and pleasurable .
@pan_bacchanal
3 жыл бұрын
4:56 *spoiler alert* Jordan Peterson: the tragedy of Christ is absolute, you can't imaging more tragic story Kentaro Miura: hold my beer
@dantegoat8568
2 жыл бұрын
what he means is not "more tragic" in a preferential or even literal sense, the comment he's making is referring to the killing of a being that is the embodiment of everything good, the tragedy of it is that it shows a part of our psyche when we tell the story of a being that by our moral standings we consider to be the embodiment of life, purity, goodness charity and virtue, and within the story we kill him, and then call him a sacrifice for our sins. that is the tragedy Peterson refers to as the tragedy of Christ, it speaks of what and who we are, but he also points to the good in said tragedy, for the story of Christ is like the phoenix, the phoenix too symbolizes the same thing as Christ, which is rebirth; in order to reach the ideals you expect of yourself you must let a part of you die and be reborn as something closer to ideal, note that Peterson too pointed out how ideals can judge us and drive us to feel even worse and more shameful but his answer to this differs from Nietzche in how to avoid the furthering of suffering by having ideals and morals.
@georgecoconut8164
2 жыл бұрын
@@dantegoat8568 Jordan petersonnis a lunatic
@dantegoat8568
2 жыл бұрын
@@georgecoconut8164 good way to dismiss other people's arguments
@feelingveryattackedrn5750
2 жыл бұрын
@@dantegoat8568 I mean your explanation of what he said just sounds like the same christian theology and religious philosophy that everyone already knows. I dont particularly need Kermit the frog telling me that "man is fundamentally evil, and we must seek archetypal representations of goodness to approximate in order to remove ourselves from suffering". Tbh, that you would even deign to compare actual philosophers with someone like Peterson offends my sensibilities. If Peterson wants to situate himself in the greater canon of (western) philosophical thought, he would do well to A) not get embroiled in every useless culture war he comes across, and B) distance himself from moral theology.
@dantegoat8568
2 жыл бұрын
@@feelingveryattackedrn5750 there was never a point made about seeking archetypal representations of goodness, or that man is evil, he uses theology and archetypes (something that the general population are heavily influenced by) to make a point about rebirth, and A) I didn't compare him to Nietzsche or philosophers at all, i provided context to a statement he made or at least a summary of it and B) i don't find any value or point in arguing if he's "situated himself in the greater canon of western philosophical thought". if he says something worth of value, philosophically or not; if it there's reason within his argument i don't see the point in dismissing it, there's something to take from every philosophy that exists, depending on the reader's personal philosophy and values it can be useful or not useful, which is subjective. and i should point out, he's embroiled in said culture war because how it directly impacts lives, when he goes to a senate hearing in Canada that's about to pass a bill that restricts speech and thought; while you may find it "pointless", many don't.
@theactualTVB
3 жыл бұрын
Berzerk is a masterpiece. Not even just as an anime or manga standpoint.
@reneepeck8094
3 жыл бұрын
Berserk and Dune are my favorite things ever. Sad that both series never really had a finish that the original authors want though.
@schmebulockjizz
3 жыл бұрын
Its not, in what aspect could this possibly be one besides the visuals i guess? People use that word so lightly for everything they enjoy these days.
@reneepeck8094
3 жыл бұрын
@@schmebulockjizz But it is though. Amazing characters, dense world, fantastic art, and an innovative and great story. It’s not perfect mind you, but it’s still an amazing story even if you compare it to American literature as well. Hell it literally inspired like 60% of Dark Souls, lol.
@schmebulockjizz
3 жыл бұрын
@@reneepeck8094 Dark souls is great, im a big fan of it, but inspiring others (i learned) does not serve as a certification for the quality of something.
@ManishKumar-oo7qu
3 жыл бұрын
@@schmebulockjizz bruh you literally watching an hour long analysis of the thing that does not have anything to do with it's visual. Like wut....
@europa238
2 жыл бұрын
Might as well make a " 'Berserk as a Nietzschean tragedy' as a Nietzschean tragedy" because shit got me crying
@pilot.wav_theory
3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone focusing on the Nietzschean aspects of this story. A true philosophical dissection. Thanks sir. RIP Miura
@eoincampbell1584
3 жыл бұрын
Tragedy as a celebration of life is something I've been looking to put words to for a while; because art that explores it has always been my favorite and until now and I've only been able to describe it as "bittersweet". So thank you for this, really made these most beautiful parts of Nietzshean philosophy approachable for me.
@vallraffs
3 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm not a video-creator myself, my passion for Berserk has at times made me want to write a script about some of my thoughts on the themes it explores which to me seem deeply compelling. I will watch this video, but just in case it renders my hypothetical one absolute I do want to mention at least one of those themes first. Namely it is how Berserk is a story where we see *devotion* explored. Devoting oneself to a cause, and making it the driving force of ones existence. This is something that is critical to the story of Berserk at basically every stage, though changes from one arc to another. In the Golden Age it is most directly explored through the characters of the Band of the Hawk and their relationship with Griffith. Many of them have feelings of inadequacy, of dissatisfaction with their life, which they (in particular Corkus, but also Judaeu, Casca, and Guts) connect to being confronted with reality. The reality of being a normal person in an emotionless world, where there is no narrative or guarantee of success of meaning to their life. This reality is what shapes their relationship with Griffith. They see in him someone who actually appears to go beyond what is possible for mere mortals. He is like a figure in a legend, someone who wins at every step and seems destined to reach his goal. Seeing him, the characters in the Band make a choice to subordinate themselves to him, to make his dream theirs, or rather to make themselves tools for his will. They renounce their role as the masters of their own fates/lives, in exchange for seeing their lives gain this meaning, where they actually have meaning and their lives matter. As Corcus says to Guts, when Guts, having examined his life and determined to not simply accept, declares that he will leave the Band: "Griffith is exceptional and you are beneath him". To Corcus, the implication that it is possible to reject the role of minor character that they are all slotted into, to actually strive to become a main character yourself, with a destiny and validity of your own equal to Griffith, is both insulting and too freightening to accept. None of this is particularly original, I'm sure. But what's really interesting is how this theme becomes so crucial to the story when you look beyond the Golden Age, at Griffith's character after his resurrection into the material world at the Tower of Conviction. Griffith's powers of persuasion and his unnatural charisma are taken to a new, cosmic level. His special role of narrative significance is no longer just a story convention, a trope of the writing, but a *fact of the reality* he exists in. He is chosen by god, told to "do as he will", and the universe is subordinate to his fate and desires. The implication this holds for Guts are something that makes this part of the story so compelling. To basically all of the characters, and to the story itself, it's tone and how it shows events, Griffith is still the hero. At every moment he is on screen, he is shown as an angelic, heroic figure. He talks to the souls of the dead, he rescues princesses and receives the adoration of Popes. His every pose is majestic, with feathers flowing around him as he is bathed in white light. Griffith drags the focus of the story away from Guts to be about him, forcing it to show his victories in a positive light. He rescues mankind, and works to create his kingdom, all in a twisted and sinister recreation of the events of the Golden Age and the first Band of the Hawk. All the while Guts, the minor character of the story as far as the gods are concerned, has to struggle to keep feeling the hatred he has in his heart for Griffith. The first time he sees him after his rebirth, he thinks that he doesn't even feel rage anymore for a second. To me this is just one instance of the story denying Guts, denying his friends who died any recognition. His grievance against Griffith is not accepted, it is invalidated. Guts has to struggle to make the narrative about him, to assert that he has agency and isn't just a bit part. As Flora says of Griffith, he is "an existence that no one in the physical world can rival". At one point I believe she or Schierke even says that for a human to try to kill Griffith would be "like a character in a story trying to harm the storyteller". All this stuff and more I've always felt highlights how strong the emotional beats of the story are, how totally it portrays odds as against Guts. Devotion to Griffith and his destiny is made valid, made the only acceptable source of meaning in ones life for the people he meets, and eventually for the entire world as a consequence of his warping the universe into one of vibrant magic. And this is what Guts has to struggle against, much more than simply trolls and apostles.
@Shallabais100
3 жыл бұрын
You should make that video, I believe you have a lot of original things to say about berserk and you formulate those thoughts really well
@ataketesamuel9542
3 жыл бұрын
make a video about it
@UnstopablePatrik
3 жыл бұрын
Make this into a video.
@John_winston
3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@tweakr4377
3 жыл бұрын
make a video!
@admiralabnormal944
3 жыл бұрын
To anyone looking to get into Berserk personally I'd recommend just starting with the manga. The anime skips certain details and leaves out a few important characters, but it ends on such a huge cliff hanger that you're going to want to pick up the manga 12 volumes in. This means either a) you're going to lack context when certain characters and plot details show up or b) you're going to start from the beginning of the manga anyway to see what you missed. Just my opinion. I started with the manga and wasn't really impressed by any of the adaptations (1997 is good, though), but a lot of people were introduced through them and have a lot of love for these anime and I don't want to diminish or take that away from them. Also, never listen to anyone who says to skip the Black Swordsman prologue arc. They are evil spirits and cannot be trusted. (And you can read through it in a few hours, it's very short.)
@michimatsch5862
3 жыл бұрын
The change from one arc to another can be confusing for some but it's so worth it to read through all of it. I agree. I just hope the manga gets continued after...you know.
@renatlottiepilled
3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@admiralabnormal944
3 жыл бұрын
@@michimatsch5862 Based on how the next chapter is being advertised by the magazine and news articles, I think it will continue. They keep saying "Miura's" last chapter, and if it was THE last chapter they'd be keep saying that to sell as many copies of the issue as possible.
@Oliver-ty7xu
3 жыл бұрын
I started watching 2-3 episodes of the Anime about a year ago, was not impressed by it at all. Then I gave the manga a chance and was completely floored. Words cannot express how good those first books are. The manga and the anime are not even worth a comparison for me.
@Cyeoable
3 жыл бұрын
I watched the 1997 anime first and loved it from the soundtrack, atmosphere and art. You can see that it is dated sure but it got me into Berserk and made me appreciate what I saw in the manga that much more. And never skip Black Swordsman arc. It's really underrated tbh
@TheSopheom
Жыл бұрын
The original 1997 version is hands down my all time favorite anime. Your analysis makes it almost new again, thank you sir!
@LiteralmenteFadul
Жыл бұрын
This alongside "The many adaptations of berserk" and "Why you should STILL read berserk" are the trifecta of great berserk videos on youtube.
@booksandocha
3 жыл бұрын
Great look at the philosophy of this series, and while I don't know all that much about Miura's views on philosophy or what he might have been reading, I would say that German philosophy and Nietzsche in particular have been key influences in modern Japanese philosophy since early 20th century. And especially early on, I think also the Japanese existential philosophy drew more on the German tradition than French philosophers, so it would not be much of a surprise that Miura would be familiar with Nietzsche.
@jonasceikaCCK
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Do you have some recommended readings from/about Japanese philosophers inspired by German philosophy, that I could find in english?
@PopesGunit
3 жыл бұрын
Keiji Nishitani work “The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism” you might find interesting. It’s available in English.
@Senumunu
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasceikaCCK "Monster" is another anime that is heavily inspired by german philosophy and even set in germany. but you find the themes in general the more you watch. "Ergo Proxy" is a whole western philosophy collectory and it is my personal favorite.
@booksandocha
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasceikaCCK Like Cody says, Nishitani is a good source, he was explicitly influenced by Nietzsche's work. His "Self-Overcoming Nihilism" is an easy place to start, and his work after that incorporates his take on Nietzsche into more creative directions. His magnum opus is "Religion and Nothingness", but that takes a fair bit of work to get through, so some of his essays and articles that are available in translation might be easier to approach. There's also a wealth of secondary literature on his work nowadays - and on Nietzsche's influence in Japanese philosophy in general - so you might be interested to look up those; scholars like James W. Heisig, John C. Maraldo and Graham Parkes come to mind off the top of my head as having laid a lot of groundwork, but there are more specific takes nowadays depending on what you might be interested in.
@booksandocha
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasceikaCCK As for Japanese philosophers being inspired by German philosophy, the Kyoto School of philosophy (that Nishitani also belongs to) in particular drew a lot of inspiration from German philosophy to develop their intercultural philosophy. In addition to Nishitani, you can find most translated works from and secondary literature in English on Nishida Kitaro, Tanabe Hajime and Watsuji Tetsuro. Heisig's "Philosophers of Nothingness" is a classic introduction to their work, but in the 20 years since it was published there has been a lot of new work, so just browsing through academic articles with these keywords is likely to yield plenty of material to read.
@actionpotential24
3 жыл бұрын
I had a couple of artist friends that really hyped up Berserk and always praised its aesthetic qualities, so I never knew that it had such interesting themes or such potential for analysis. I'm definitely more interested in the series now. This video is fantastic.
@pilot.wav_theory
3 жыл бұрын
The writing is the best. The art is almost just the cherry on top. Not to say its not amazing but i dont see it as the centerpiece of the series
@HerMi.T
3 жыл бұрын
@@pilot.wav_theory because art is the centerpiece. It actually tell it's story through art. Arc like sea god doesn't look interesting if you just read it's summery (and arcs like millenium sounds fantastic when listen it but you truly understand the point of every characters and every events when truly read or watch the manga). It is phenomenal when you actually read or watch it. Because most of story is tell through visual cues and beautiful arts always signifying something about inner self of our main characters.
@pilot.wav_theory
3 жыл бұрын
@@HerMi.T thats a good point i didnt even consider that a LOT of the storytelling is done purely thru the visuals alone. U right bro
@mau345
2 жыл бұрын
I envy you, if only i could read berserk again like the first or second time(the best time) :)
@joshn2664
3 жыл бұрын
Farnese is absolutely one of my favorite characters in berserk. And it's so funny because I hated her vehemently in the conviction arc as well as the telling of her back story in the beginning of the Millennium Falcon arc. But as she slowly overcame her short comings and cowardice, I grew to adore her and respect her journey even at it's early stages. This video is fantastic and the farnese section made me so happy.
@yurkdawg
5 ай бұрын
That was wonderful! I have often wondered at the paradox of why we love dark tragedies and consider them some of the highest levels of narrative art. Prior to this my best hypothesis was that we like dark depressing tragedies simply as a comparison to our own lives, as a means to alleviate any feelings of despair we feel in our own life. E.g. if Guts can survive and even thrive through so much suffering and hell, then whatever problems I am facing in life no longer seem so insurmountable. While I still believe this to be true. It never felt like a complete answer to me, since a) all suffering for any individual is just as valid as any other. I.e. we all have problems and comparing absolute values to them is fallacious. In other words my suffering/pain is no less or more valid than anyone else's based on some abstract relative scale irrelevant to the feeling of those emotions. And b) even so this does not explain the fundamental life-affirmation (and even a type of joy) felt after experiencing an excellent dark tragic story. But you (lol and Nietzsche ;) explain this to a far greater extent than I ever deemed possible. Thank you so much for this, I think I will enjoy dark tragedies even more in the future knowing this. More importantly, I think I understand myself better now, and this if a far more satiating conclusion. Any chance you would consider doing a similar video on my other favorite "dark" anime/manga: Attack on Titan? I love that series more than almost any other, and like Berserk I still do not fully understand why I (and so many other people) love that story so much. Especially considering that its "cruel yet beautiful" world/story is so objectively depressing, at least on a surface level. I'm not saying it's for the same reasons - actually an analysis would be redundant if it is rehashing the same themes and philosophies. But I do love it and re watch/re-read it often, and even after countless hours of thought (and discussion and watching analysis videos ;) I still have not fully unpacked why I love it so much. Thanks in advance!
@soonmide
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. It made me realize that part of the horror of Griffith is his inextricable link with narrative and fate... He could only ever become less human because of it, like how narrative and meaning become more alien to human living the more honestly you look at it. If Guts is defined by his struggle to stay alive and gains the ability to affirm life on his journey because of it, Griffith mirrors this by being defined by wanting everything except life, and steadily losing the ability to appreciate anything in it except the radiance of his abstract goals, turning him more horrific the more he gains the ability to shape the world around that inhuman logic. You helped me put my finger on these things I've pondered about all these times I've read and reread Berserk. Thank you!
@yungalch8987
7 ай бұрын
Man that’s so true
@dharmatycoon
3 жыл бұрын
omfg, my fave KZitemr, manga & philosopher in 1 vid I'm so stoked
@Uptomyknees
3 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating to apply the philosophy discussed here to current culture.
@rajyavardhansingh4491
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis for why Proud Boys,Antifa,BLM riot
@MKBCelestial
3 жыл бұрын
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 True, they're just like guts, defying the current state of the world, not wasting time praying and instead taking action to attempt to better their world.
@DG-st5df
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you here. I greatly enjoy your work and it now reminds me to check if I can already pirate your book. Can't remember the name but I remember the synopsis shooting it through my priorities list at the time. (Yes I pirate everything because life is extra hard in Brazil right now and even the time it takes to read a book is already a luxury, imagine paying on top of that. Take no offence.)
@rajyavardhansingh4491
3 жыл бұрын
@@MKBCelestial doubly true, just like Guts, their reasoning is like gutses, frictional, they have no actual reason to riot, there is no such things as white privilege, Systemic Racism,anti-white racism but here we are anyway.
@dante2570
3 жыл бұрын
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 there most certainly is white privilege and it most certainly comes via systemic racism, at least in the United States. If you want to argue that rioting against such things if fruitless then you may have a point, but denying their existence is denying reality.
@leonmulder4889
Жыл бұрын
Affirming life can be exceedingly difficult, but running away or pretending you don't want what you really want or don't feel what you really feel is no life at all. I am quite unhappy day-to-day, but once every couple of months or so I reach a goal I struggled for or fate gifts me a sudden beautiful experience like seeing the swallows do their acrobatics in my yard or an appreciation for my efforts form my students and I do feel like those are more powerful due to the general melancholia I experience daily. In the same way as drinking water when you're not thirsty is a banal experience, but drinking water after a long hike in the sun feels like you're pouring liquid happiness into yourself. To affirm suffering is to affirm a joy that becomes only more meaningful the more elusive it grows, which it inevitably will as you age, but taking life as it really is and not hiding in your self constructed fantasies about what the world could be like instead will grant you the ability tom every now and then, experience a beautiful feeling that seems to use all your previous suffering as fuel for it's power.
@caseyanderson9985
3 жыл бұрын
KZitem will recommend and remind me of every time Peter Coffin coughs but I had to search for this video? What the hell.
@2tehnik
3 жыл бұрын
> you suffer because you deserve to suffer This kind of sounds like Schopenhauer's 'Eternal Justice,' but I'm not sure how it'd be attributable to Christianity (or no less universalizable to all so called systems of slave morality). Specifically the idea that the suffering of sin/being sinful is a product of some kind of retributive justice present because of sinfulness. So 'deserve' specifically sounds like a strange word to choose. Saying that you're responsible for your suffering makes more sense, but at that point I think the most you could say is "you suffer because you've been complacent enough about sin to suffer." > at least the suffering is not senseless, it is part of God's plan. Is this how it works in Orthodox Christian theology? I mean, God has a plan to save humanity, but that's not really coextensive with suffering that exists because of humans being sinful. At least with some kind of Augustinian Original Sin doctrines, the reason would simply be the original screw up humans made. And saying that God was responsible for that would at the very least entail one to some kind of Calvinism (I think anyway). 21:21 Going to comment something about this (supposed) cycle: the reasoning seems pretty suspect. Specifically, after we get to the "second suffering" (suffering because of being aware that one is sinful), how do we increment the cycle to sinfulness? Does the suffering of being aware of one's sinfulness somehow itself make one (more) sinful? I don't see how. If anything, I would say that it's (at least potentially) a pathway to decreasing sin (as one aims to act more virtuously to do that). I'm assuming this mistake arose from mixing up the two kinds of suffering and their explanations. Or specifically, that because sin is the explanation of the first kind of suffering (for example, things done by humans to other humans), that it is an explanation of every kind of suffering. Which of course doesn't have to be the case (and I'd doubt a Christian theologian or someone like that would argue that's the case anyway). Take an analogy: I take food from the fridge, I start eating it and it tastes bad. This is the first degree of "badness" of the meal. I search for an explanation and adjudge that it's spoiled (the first degree of spoildness if you will). So the badness is incremented to the second degree, since now there is an internal factor conditioning the first degree that persists beyond it. Does this second degree of badness make it even more spoiled? I don't think I see how it could. Even if the explanation for the second degree of badness is spoildness, wouldn't it be the same spoildness which revealed the second degree of badness? And that the spoildness in-turn only reveals the same old second degree of badness? Essentially, in both cases, sinfulness/spoildness is the root of evil, both particular (1st degree) and universal (2nd degree). But it doesn't stand in need of much further explanation. It reveals the 2nd degree, but already explains it before it's even revealed. Other comments: Schopenhauer didn't believe in God, sure. But he was pretty much a Platonist at heart. As such I don't think it's surprising that he has a deeply religious worldview without technically being religious. Which is to say that I think this is a bad example ("even Schop believed in a kind of original sin"). I think it would've been good to facilitate that Greek tragedies do affirm life. More than simply pointing to their origin of coming from the cult of Dionysus. I'm not an expert, but the two Greek tragedies I do recall (Oedipus Rex and Antigone) don't end in a life affirming fashion. Or, at least, I can't see how they do. I mean, Oedipus and his mother, as well as like five characters in Antigone (iirc, Antigone, her love interest/Creon's son, Creon's wife, and two of Antigone's brothers) all die. And except the two brothers (who die warring with each other), they all kill themselves because the situation is just too unbearable to live with. How does this affirm/celebrate life? Second, I'm not sure if this is unclear because on Neeche or the script, but: Is life possibly enjoyable despite of or because of the suffering? Because it's not really the same, and different lines here seem to imply different things. The first ("despite of") implies that the aesthetic qualities are so good, they override the inherent flaws of existence. While the second that suffering is somehow necessary to produce that aesthetic feature ("because of"). For the latter, the most facilitation I can see is referencing courage being able to be showed off through suffering. But I think this would really just show how the aesthetic quality can overcome suffering rather than it being a necessary component. If it is the former, I think that might lead to some kind of "life-denial lite." Since the suffering of life is basically contingent, life does actually fall short of an ideal (life with the aesthetic quality but without the suffering). Lastly, and this may be because I'm not too familiar with Walrus philologist man: Why are we picking life-affirmation over morality/life-denial anyway? Or, rather, is an honest pathway to life-affirmation presented here? From what I can tell, the real problem for N with life-denial is that it's psychologically problematic and doesn't allow for a healthy life (that's how it seems here to me). So we pick life-affirmation because it'll allow us to cope better and be healthier (mentally). Wouldn't this mean that the real reason we're affirming life is still to cope with the suffering? Ie. we're not really accepting suffering, or accepting its necessity, since what we're doing is precisely done to minimize it. If this is not the primal reason for life-affirmation, I'm not sure what is. Genuinely would like someone to answer these questions if they can and are willing.
@leonardotavaresdardenne9955
2 жыл бұрын
I can't but I honestly agree. Nietzsche seems to be very sentimental, and that can be very effective emotionally, but honestly at lot of it seems myopic or dishonest. I never really got the "you need to suffer so you can feel good!" idea either.
@billhicks8
2 жыл бұрын
Three months late, but I'll give what I can a go: 1) "Does the suffering of being aware of one's sinfulness somehow itself make one (more) sinful? I don't see how. If anything, I would say that it's (at least potentially) a pathway to decreasing sin (as one aims to act more virtuously to do that)." I think the key thing here is to separate the notion of "good" and "evil" (or "sin") with the notion of what is actually intensifying or decreasing. That is to say, it is not a concrete reality of a phenomenon called "sin" that actually exists in this cycle, but the idealised perception of someone in the grips of this so-called slave morality that creates a value judgement about the nature of life, and therefore the origins of suffering. The Nietzschean view would therefore observe that there is indeed suffering in life, but to say it is because the world is full of evil, and that this evil generates from your (and of course others') actions, and therefore has to be atoned for (in many cases, punished) will not eradicate this so-called evil, because evil does not really exist. Continue like this, however, and your identification of suffering being due to one's sinfulness will intensify, because you will notice more and more things about both the world and yourself you will deem "sinful", this judgement will make you suffer more; as the world seems even more sinful than before, and your own actions to defeat evil in yourself may seem less and less adequate. To use the character of "Farnesse" here (which I will do very sparingly, having not read/watched Berserk), the Nietzschean would only observe that her actions of _ressentiment_ seem to intensify further and further. She would continue a cycle of banishing her enemies, in more brutal ways, for more intensely felt reasons, and feel worse and worse when the suffering in world did not yield or abate. Her angst would make her feel like a failure, and her conclusion would only be that surely something inside her was still "sinful", still "lacking", and her behaviours intensify again and continue, and subsequently, her guilt and self hatred would only increase. I hope that makes sense.
@billhicks8
2 жыл бұрын
2nd response (I'm breaking this up because it will be too long otherwise): Side comment 1b (Antigone): "How does this affirm/celebrate life?" I guess we could say that Creon's realisation _is_ the reason for the tragedy to play out, and the playing out of it is a reason for living. If you were to compare a play like Antigone, to biblical stories, then one could say that Creon is considered in err for his unyielding, authoritarian attitudes towards Antigone's values, but he is not considered "evil". In the end, he admits that he has made a huge mistake, and the ending is pretty much his resolve to listen to counsel and be a better leader, even if he has lost everyone he cares about. The tragedy as a whole even derives its value from the notion that Creon could certainly argue his case well enough, but ultimately his views had consequences that were not acceptable, even to himself. Comparatively, just look at so many biblical stories; Job, the trials and worldly wisdom of Solomon, Moses and the Pharoah, Lot and the fate of his wife. They are essentially have antagonists - or flawed protagonists - that allow a view other than the Lord's into their hearts, and they suffer terribly for it. The only way to seek relief is to capitulate; as long as you ain't obeying God, you a sinner. Even Jesus has to submit to The Plan on the cross; he has to die so other, more imperfect beings, could have a chance of redemption. We are all washed in the blood of Jesus, off his death. Our Life is essentially his Death, and we are indebted to it, and we will certainly never live up to _his_ life, though you must of course try. 2) "Is life possibly enjoyable despite of or because of the suffering?" Nietzsche would undoubtedly have gone with "because of"; just read some of his writings and you'll see what I mean. I will answer just this option. Beauty would be attained not just through the expression of "courage", but through the very adversity itself. If there were no struggle of Becoming in life, if there were no will to power that could be ceaselessly pursued, then there would be no real living. There would only be senseless grasping or the inertia of inactivity; the domain of "The Last Man"; who has no real sense of struggle, and no will to fight. We create against the background of adversity, suffering and confounding, infuriating resistance and what arises out of that background is incredibly different and more inspiring than what exists without it. The genre of "tragedy" recognises this best, and accepts the terrible beauty of this journey. 3) "Wouldn't this mean that the real reason we're affirming life is still to cope with the suffering?" If "to cope" is to perceive it in a way instructive to our accomplishments in life, then yes, I suppose so. It's essentially leaning into the difficult spin of life, to try and overcome pointless battles with the whiplash. To invent your own reasons in the knowledge you are actively doing so, and justify them only by the strength of the actions themselves.
@billhicks8
2 жыл бұрын
Final response: After writing all this, I must admit to you that I am not really a full-blown Nietzschean. I think he has interesting things to say about Christianity and the nature of suffering; at least in regards to the individual, but I do not really see his overarching theory of life (Amor Fati, living in accordance with the will to power, etc), to be realistic. I believe that while it is crucial to be aware that we _create_ moral value systems, and can be self-sabotaging, resentful prisoners of them, we cannot live "beyond" them, and what we try to create that endeavours to go beyond is really only another inversion of this "slave morality", back to "might makes right". Now of course we might _claim_ that we have removed the concept of "right" in that statement by "going beyond it", that we have "affirmed" life by saying "yes to suffering", but we have only now really realised the intractability of our original position. We are "inventing post-morality" as if we could be the knowing authors of morality itself, but the reality of suffering and how it feels make a mockey of our claims to authorship. We feel injustices and resentment in spite of our futile designs to frolic in pointless chaotic suffering for its own sake. We are, erm, Too Human. Lastly, a member of the ordinary class, that aspires through the will to join the Warrior class, does not transfigure their suffering into joy. As we see with most of the ultra-wealthy elite, for example, bootstrapped or otherwise, they tend to spend an enormous amount of time worrying about trying to consolidate more power, attacking the weak and Priestly (intellectual) classes, and feel deeply uncomfortable when they aren't asserting their dominance, which is simply resentment swelling from the lack of totalising, impossible submission in others. What we see is more of a Hegelian Master/Slave relationship (CCK has a pretty good older video about this), where one feels the satisfaction of their own will only being satisfied in defeat of The Other, yet needing the continued and contradictory existence of the Other to defeat to temporarily alleviate suffering and create meaning, which is a reciprocal problem that Nietzsche's philosophy helps us view the horizon of, but never overcome. IMO, Camus restated a lot of Nietzschean struggle in more coherent, applicable terms, avoiding the contrarian elitism and anti-pragmatic circularity of Nietzsche's thought.
@leonardotavaresdardenne9955
2 жыл бұрын
@@billhicks8 the whole "life is only possible because of suffering" thing just seems like some sort of logical fallacy honestly. Nietzsche's genealogy is a very important development but otherwise I think he was wrong about most of the things he came up with.
@Krispo7007
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Glad you talk almost 1 hour, Berserk always deserved an extensive analysis.
@SensusCultura
2 жыл бұрын
I rarely read any comics or graphic novels, but I was looking for some philosophical/psychological anime to share with my daughter. This video essay lit up my curiosity, so we decided to watch the 97 anime; but since the Golden Age is just a flashback and the real story develops further, I dived into the manga. Found out Berserk is definitively a deeper master piece. The story and the art caught me, and it shook many things I took for granted, a reread of Nietzsche was necessary for me. He spoke louder and clearer to me now than it did 30 years ago; not only on a personal level, but to have a better grasp of what the western world has become. Berserk goes beyond character development. It really started to question modernist social structures and beliefs, and post-modernist stances. It’s a true shame the author passed away just when his work was about to reach its climax and conclusion. It would have been very interesting to see what new values Miura proposed as an artist.
@andeve3
3 жыл бұрын
one must imagine Guts struggling
@bhavya5692
3 жыл бұрын
We find beauty and dread in his struggles, we feel his pain yet enjoy to be able enough to read Berserk
@aakarshan4644
2 жыл бұрын
"I understood that reference" - captain america
@XTGAMEZ009
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Muira and Nietzschean was not born on this generation.. else they will get cancelled immediately and won't hear from their works.
@markustanbeck9149
3 жыл бұрын
Berserk touched me deeply when I was first exposed to it. It remains one of the most enthralling manga reading experiences I've ever had. Never been able to forget the emotions and the bond you develop for the characters as it unfolds. It really is a masterpiece both in terms of characters and the details in some of the drawn frames. I dread the thought that it may never be finished, but appreciate what we got to have up of. Thank you for everything Miura, your art will outlive you.
@Valbertoog
Жыл бұрын
finally someone talks about farnese, shes such an amazing, well written character
@-Kailinn-
Жыл бұрын
The greatest tragedy of Berserk is that Kentaro Miura will never be the one to finish it.
@tanner3907
3 жыл бұрын
skipping my first born sons graduation for this .
@merileopardisaksassa7030
3 жыл бұрын
Gambino would be proud :D
@majindu44
3 жыл бұрын
papers please
@kn-fm7tq
3 жыл бұрын
time well spent tbh
@EnnameMori
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The rejection of evil and sin as self fulfilling and the inherent compassion in it has always been the part of Nietzsche that I connected to, and this is such a good articulation of it.
@TheRealSolidSnake
Жыл бұрын
I'm excitingly joining to the comments below: the BEST analysis and essay on Nietzche's philosophy in Berserk, hell, the best I've felt connected so far. So many good points were made and so much quality. Thank you, Jonas, I had a great time and feeling even more connected, praising the life with all it's tragedies and hard times. Thank you! And thank you, Kentaro Miura. You've made it in the end
@johnarbuckle2619
3 жыл бұрын
This was a surprise but a welcome one.
@rollinnollin546
3 жыл бұрын
I know very little of Berserk… but this video was beautiful to me. I am, in my own life, in a period of struggle. But I think Nietzsche’s ideas have given me a new perspective. To recognize my struggles without resigning to them. To understand my own weaknesses without self-flagellation. To accept the inevitable, but to never stop fighting. Thank you, you should be proud of your work.
@tapirgod3034
2 жыл бұрын
I am obsessed with this video. I've watched it several times.
@1995yuda
8 ай бұрын
Greek Tragedy doesn't "celebrate" Tragedy, that's just Nietzche forcing his Philosophical outlook on Greek Drama. Greek Tragedy is DIDACTIC, it INSTRUCTS by showing the audience how human Error leads to ruin, so that the audience learns what NOT to do and how NOT to be, what to look out for. That's what happens when a Philosopher analizes Drama instead of a Dramatist.
@ChrysostomosKaniouras
4 ай бұрын
Explain the didactic nature of Oedipus
@Temaran
3 жыл бұрын
Every person who has experienced Berserk deserves to see this analysis.. I'm crying right now.
@Max-fs9py
4 ай бұрын
Quite simply the best video I’ve ever watched. It’s difficult to tell you how much it’s changed my life, how much more I appreciate berserk, how much I have been inspired in my day to day, inspired to read Nietzsche… you are a genius sir, and you are touching people in ways you probably have never thought possible
@speakwithpeace5745
Жыл бұрын
Hit me to the core. I genuinely feel as if I’m been draped with knowledge I would not have come across otherwise. Thank you
@rf-uj5sc
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful commentary, I'm fascinated by the Dionysian perseverance (and ultimate love) for life through aesthetic transformation of tragic human experiences. I myself feel transformed through this insight.
@ramdharisinghdinkar1069
Жыл бұрын
Can someone give the names of soundtracks
@jomes7493
3 жыл бұрын
So I haven’t finished the video yet, which means you may get into this, but I have a theory as to why at least I like tragedy. I view it in the same way that people with consensual non consent kinks often view their kink. It’s a way to relive and come to terms with certain traumas while putting you in control and in a safe environment. In a way because the sadness is not real, I can find pleasure in it precisely because I am in control of it. If the sadness ever gets too much, I can leave the theater or turn off my tv. That’s my two cents anyway
@VanityPlatesX
Жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite video essays on youtube. The last bit gives me chills every time
@degla232
Жыл бұрын
i teared up at the last quote what a video
@hyperboreanarchives7299
3 жыл бұрын
I'm only 16 minutes in but *_By The Gods_* man, this is the most astute recounting of Nietzsche & Schopenhauer I've seen in quite a while. Not even those among us who are philosophically illiterate can miss it's gravitas and poignancy. Well done sir!
@Firespectrum122
3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand Nietzsche's argument against Christianity at all. If the idea of evil and of Heaven, so on, are merely products of "ressentiment" then what causes the ressentiment? The vast majority of religious people I have seen have never been tyrannical, angry sociopaths, molested by their priest at ten, as they so often seem to be portrayed, but average, well-adjusted people who simply want to be assured that their family and loved ones are saved from the various flaws and mediocrities of existence and separated from the people who seek to perpetuate and affirm it - psychopaths, hedonists, Nietzscheans etc. If existence is so terrible, so flawed, that humans are rendered either comatose from depression or deluded into a childish fantasy to escape it, why are we even seeking to affirm it? The evidence that life so obviously, crassly unaffirmable mounts with countless suicides, depressions and shattered minds, and yet all philosophy seems to have is coping mechanisms rather than solutions. Waving our dicks around trying to compare which coping mechanism is the best - the masterful "solution" invented by our greatest minds. What a fucking joke.
@fede2
3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because you end up answering the very question you pose at the beginning. "What is there to affirm?" ... "The mediocrities of existance" ... You give yourself away in the very vocabulary you use: you're a textbook nietzschean category.
@Firespectrum122
3 жыл бұрын
@@fede2 Not that I don't appreciate the reply, but what you're saying is kindof meaningless, dude. Everyone, including Nietzsche, is a textbook Nietzsche category because he psychologically profiles - very well, I might add - everybody. I could be a furry who smears himself in engine oil for kicks every night and he would be able to explain to me how and why I ended up that way. Edit: Also, it's "existence". Not trying to be clever, I just fucking hate it when people type it that way.
@fede2
3 жыл бұрын
@@Firespectrum122 I'm not seeing it. I'm talking about the two archetypes he builds his moralities around. Not just in the way you expressed yourself, but the fact that you felt called out at all was pretty telling.
@generaljackripper4360
Жыл бұрын
The last man speaks
@Firespectrum122
Жыл бұрын
@@generaljackripper4360 I have invented happiness - and it was shit
@ascendrio
3 жыл бұрын
It´s my favorite manga, in all my years of being a manga reader, there are few that come close to the depth portrayed within Kentaro´s work. We have lost an amazing story teller, it is unfortunate, and yet it is so fitting within the paradigm of Berserk that he never got to finish it on his terms. It encapsulates the overarching narrative so ironically.
@chosen_mizzy
Жыл бұрын
Farnese has one of the best character arcs in the entire story and this video helped me realize why I resonate with development into a more capable person
@thomaspynchon8400
Жыл бұрын
I've watched this whenever I've felt a little down. Thanks man. This is by far the best youtube video ive watched in 15 years here. Amor fati!🥰
@ivan_ivankovich
Жыл бұрын
Right? I come back to listen to this at least weekly
@PierceArner
3 жыл бұрын
I think that you'd find a really interesting secondary perspective on your analysis of Nietzsche's influence in _BERSERK_ by looking at what Hayao Miyazaki emphasized in the manga version of _Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind_ when it comes to the concepts of giving suffering a purpose and also showing suffering has no purpose ultimately being a reflection of the exact same thing - especially because that manga was completed two years before _BERSERK_ showed the eclipse and the events therein lying. There are a lot of preliminary themes expressed there that I think you'll recognize and appreciate even moreso after looking at these themes.
@diekritischestimme
2 жыл бұрын
Just a quick note on your perception of christianity. (around 25:35 etc. ) You say that Christians view the non-christians as "enemies who go to hell", but this is not true at all. The Christian religion mourns the loss of any soul to hell, yet, tolerates completely, if someone willfully chooses hell over heaven. The only "enemies" a christian has are Satan and one's own sinfulness/sins. It's also not fair to show monks which are whipping themselves to make a certain point about Christianity - this is not happening in 99% of the church and it's a weird catholic teaching that punishing yourself will do ANY good for your salvation, it's not in the bible. I don't like how the lack of understanding of the Christian faith leads to all kinds of these generalizations. It just shows that most atheists have not studied Christianity enough to make ANY point about it.
@diekritischestimme
2 жыл бұрын
This goes on in your analysis of Farnese - it's a popular thing to display fanatic, religious (aka "Christian") characters like sadistic and enjoying the punishment of the sinners, heretics, yet, this could not be further from Christian reality. It's a work of fiction and when you say at 28:00 that Farnese is deriving pleasure from the punishment of the heretics "when they scare people with the threat of eternal damnation, they satisfy their thirst for vengance" this has nothing to do with Christianity at all. Like I said in my original comment - the bible encourages mourning for the lost, and not any kind of pleasure from knowing that they are punished and eventually go to hell. Christians on the other side do not go to heaven because they are perfect or better humans, but because they accept their sinful nature and ask God for help and repent from evil. (not the most accurate description of christian faith, I admit) If you meet anyone who claims that he is "happy" that sinners end up in hell, well, that is not a christian, I can assure you. Of course, your description of Farnese is totally correct, but she really has no real world equivalent in the Christian worldview. (this is also why most of these crazy, religous characters in anime are referencing the catholic church, with their unbiblical power structures and unbiblical teachings - I know this counts for "being a Christian" from the point of an atheist, but catholicism is very far from the bible and the teachings of Jesus.)
@singleoneonly
2 жыл бұрын
When people bring up scriptural evidence to push back against nietzsche’s point, i can’t help but think it went over your heads. Nietzsche does not seek to critique the bible with any sort of longform or systematic content, but to critique the way that the institutions of christianity are used to manipulate and obfuscate. Nietzsche, in fact, seems quite laudatory of the bible in the sense that it gives its followers purpose, and even one of his books, thus spoke zarathustra, is written in an explicitly biblical manner. Notice how nietzsche rarely quotes the bible itself in a negative way, but rather its teachers and students; those who weaponize the faith to give some false sense of superiority to their values.
@ahumblebountyhunter
3 жыл бұрын
This is the best Berserk analysis video on youtube, great work!
@ahumblebountyhunter
3 жыл бұрын
@Un-heimlich thanks, you too
@johanneshansen852
3 жыл бұрын
I like the acknowledgement that Berserk ending this way, is in some way a thematic ending that continues the themes of the story. We must become like Guts, and soldier on, even when our greatest stories leave us alone and lonely, and find new meaning in the face of tragedy.
@ryu6916
3 жыл бұрын
I rewatched 3 times in a row, and that is still not enough. this stuff is great. it takes huge effort to compress so much knowledge and understanding into this easily digestible video. Guts, Kentaro Miura, Nietzsche and Dionysus will approved this.
@kellyrankin8844
3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable video, but I think Nietszche deserves to be critiqued as thoroughly as others before everyone starts jumping on the bandwagon. I enjoy his ideas quite a bit, but I think they're not sufficient to evaluate morality fully.
@PropsOutProductions
Жыл бұрын
Man the comment section of anything concerning philosophy is so packed full of narcissistic pseudo-intellectuals I'd almost rather be scrolling down a 4chan board.
@samueloak1600
Жыл бұрын
No kidding
@ListlessCraving
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for giving an amazing analysis of Berserk. Your video gave me a deeper appreciation for Berserk, and made me look at my current situation in a more positive light. I really loved your discussion of Farnese and her character arc. It was wonderful learning about slave morality, and how that method of thinking can weaken a person. I always look forward to your thoughtful videos, and it makes my day a little brighter when ever you release a new one.
@eidorm.7953
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed EVERY SINGLE SECOND of this video! It, within itself is a materpiece! Thank you for simplifying and analyzing Nietche and Schopenhauer in a way that I could understand new depths of their thoughts and ideas, and thank you for showing how deep rooted they are within the master piece that is berserk.
@ClintStone-t9m
5 ай бұрын
The best video essay I have ever seen, holy...
@AlInGaP_Diode
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you would really appreciate Kino's Journey (2003) and the light novels. Incredible job on this video!
@ethanmaxwell2235
2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video exploring one of my favorite pieces of fiction ever. Although I disagree with a lot of what you (or I suppose Nietzsche) discussed regarding morality and religion as a coping mechanism for our inability to understand suffering, hearing the other side has definitely changed my perspective. As a Christian I'm starting to realize the importance of exploring the works philosophers like Nietzsche and Schopenhauer to shape my view of the world, instead of just accepting religion because I have been raised in it.
@jadedpotato1574
2 жыл бұрын
I hope you've been having an enlightening theological/philosophical journey! It's kinda crazy that a piece of media like Berserk can have that influence over so many, what a work of art. rip Miura 🙏
@neutral_narr
Жыл бұрын
I don't what you are disagreeing with here there are plenty of people who use religion to cope with their suffering.
@alihanullah
Жыл бұрын
this video is pure philosophy. and now I am even more sure about being a philosophy student in college, thank you for this incredible work.
@sealedindictment
3 жыл бұрын
bravo! 👏🏼 metaphysics of cause and effect vs dialectics of interconnectedness teleology origins of morality existentialism affirmation over negation tragedy (no justification no explanation no resolution) this was entertaining and enlightening
@durfdurffigan8680
3 жыл бұрын
You should do Evangelion.
@mjolninja9358
3 жыл бұрын
Vinland Saga and Vagabond are great ones to explore too
@pinip_f_werty1382
Жыл бұрын
My only critique is Nietzsche's thoughts on Jesus, I understand that it was more-so talking about the christian view of it as opposed to the Dionysian view. Nietzsche loved Jesus. Not the mythological figure, but the historical figure. He thought people bastardized his original message, that "heaven is within you". (Meaning you have everything you need, at all times, within yourself to be at peace and in love with life.)
@thebigcapitalism9826
Жыл бұрын
This has to be your best video yet; I have watched this several times since it released now a year ago. Incredible. Can’t wait to see what’s next since your Christmas special last year in 2022!
@xeixi3789
Жыл бұрын
Same. I consider this his magnum opus.
@lancelot2900
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please make video on monster? I really enjoyed your videos
@hath6617
3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely perfect timing. I’ve just finished an amazing audiobook on Audible about Greek Tragedies, and here you are providing a contemporary equivalent. If anyone is interested, the details of the audiobook are: Greek Tragedy by Elizabeth Vandiver, The Great Courses. This has got to be your best video yet cuck.
@PGouges35
3 жыл бұрын
Great handle!
@royhobbs5482
2 жыл бұрын
It's worth mentioning, the Golden Age Arc ends in volume 13 of the manga and doesn't begin until volume 3.
@ludwigkainz
Жыл бұрын
i love the deliberate use of the different berserk songs
@dahterrasse
3 жыл бұрын
These ideas on life-affirmation resonate a lot with me. For a long time now, a critique of peace (that is, of peace as absence of conflict as a whole) has been growing within my personal way of thinking. I find this desire for an absence of conflict to be a strong denial of life, as life, just like art, is built upon the interplay of conflict and resolution. The idea that life is to be viewed in a more aesthetic way, therefore, has also been very interesting to me.
@Vinzaf
3 жыл бұрын
“Dionysus is sometimes seen as the god of blind rage” “a manga named BERSERK” hmm yes you may be onto something. :^)
@ellocosjchushhxha
Жыл бұрын
Watch the dubbed version if you haven't seen it, there is absolutely no reason to read the anime, that is what the Manga is for. Don't worry, you won't miss anything...
@dutchbannger6503
3 жыл бұрын
Farnese, from self-coming to self-overcoming
@deliii395
3 жыл бұрын
Tragic or more specifically "dark" stories and characters most prominently male characters who commit crimes have become so rampant among people's favourites nowadays that I now feel need to question if it's good just because it's a tragedy/ "dark" or is it actually good with something unique to being to the table. P.s. really enjoyed this video.
@RobertHalvarsson
Жыл бұрын
Late reply. But I would agree with your last sentiment. It is good art if it elevates or shines some light on the human condition, if it is lacking these qualities - it contains only shock value, and perhaps serve as a reminder that life can be dark, or a celebration of a kind of underside of the morals society otherwise says it relies on, but in a very primitive way.
@hamidmoradi1340
10 ай бұрын
This might be the best video i have seen on KZitem.
@partigianoliberal
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful video, thank you wholeheartedly for it
@personmcpersonperson2893
3 жыл бұрын
Berserk, Nietzsche and Ceika... My favorite three things have united and I am in awe
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