7mm bullets are my favorite for whitetail. My Tikka 7mm-08 was sub moa straight out of the box.
@dpbierman2586
5 ай бұрын
Ron Love the channel and content! I was never a believer in copper bullets until I hunted a few different species of animals here in Africa with Barnes TSX and TTSX in my Tikka 308. What stood out to me right away is the penetration and good blood trails on almost all of the shots. So for most of my hunting ons larger game I will choose Barnes... and something softer and cheaper for Varminting ect. Regards Dave
@lorenzotelleria1858
2 жыл бұрын
What about a full episode on bullets!!! I learn so much from you Mr Spomer, I really respect your knowledge and honesty!
@saltcreekammo
2 жыл бұрын
As far as Barnes Bullets and monolithic bullets go, the bigger the meplat, the faster expansion you'll get. Tip construction on those bullets is very important...
@Platypusklr
9 ай бұрын
Federal Terminal Accent in 155 should definitely enter the conversation. Excellent bullet choose for 7 REM Mag out here on the plains.
@HazardousRob
3 ай бұрын
Love TA. Great bullet from Federal
@barrydismukes7601
4 ай бұрын
The nosler accubound has done real well in my 3006! I hunt everything with it and hand load mine for my tight groups
@kweeks10045
Жыл бұрын
Barnes TTSX, Sierra Gameking BTSP, Nosler Accubond and an honorable mention to Norma ORYX. A lot of people look at the Sierra as being something grandpa used but not applicable today. While they may not be as aerodynamic as many newer bullets, they still hold their own. Not to mention they are known for their great accuracy and consistency. My 7mag has taken elk out to 500 yards with a 160gr Sierra. And the ORYX performs like a Nosler Partition but with the accuracy of the Sierra.
@stephenembrey883
Жыл бұрын
I haven't figured this out but I've been paying attention to your writings and sports afield magazines and all that long before Internet and you're still going, you're not much older than me at all but man everything you say is spot on. I do not proclaim to be an expert politician because I have no paperwork to prove it. But I can quote virtually Every caliber with every powder, with every bullet weight and the drop of each one of every range, and you have been in the forefront of all my studies though I have taken them to a far deeper level. I love watching your videos because your videos are probably the only ones on the Internet that are as close to 100% accurate as can possibly be done. I speak this from over a half a century of continuing studies. It is obvious that you and I are of the same mindset but I am more focused on shooting and not talking about it as I am very thankful that there is someone like you to talk about it. Hats off to you my friend you are totally correct about 80% of the time.
@Mav8887.
Жыл бұрын
Sierra, Barnes, Speer & Nosler 🔥
@nathancovington544
2 жыл бұрын
You’re behind Ron. Our first archery season is already closed here in ca. Waiting on rifle opener on the second Saturday of this month. Will be using the 156g Hammer hunters again this year.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
That's right. I forgot you guys like to hunt in the heat! I've taken a couple of CA blacktails and feral hogs and sweated every time. Hope you get one!
@nathancovington544
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t say we like it but we don’t have much choice. Share the blacktail hunts with us sometime. Thanks Ron. Oh and don’t for get to share the results of your hammers on game. And take lots of pics. We like visuals.
@m444ss
5 ай бұрын
I just bought some Hornady CX (Outfitter & Superformance) and Barnes LRX (VOR-TX) ammo. Gonna clean my X-Bolt barrel and see if it likes one better than the others.
@glorybound7599
5 ай бұрын
243, 270, 30.06. Cost, availability, variety of grain weights and manufactures, history.
@billhatcher2984
2 жыл бұрын
Rite now the accubond is my favorite I have recovered two both under the skin on the off side shoulder and both of them were over 250 yards I have 7 1 shot kills with them 1 deer I had to use a finishing shot all with a 25 WSSM I LOVE IT
@merkel2750
Жыл бұрын
Another tip for hunting in bear country (especially grizzly) keep your wits about you, grizzlies can learn gunshots=carcass and they can be incredibly quiet for their size, it’s the last thing you want to find standing behind you when your rifle isn’t in your hands.
@garyh1449
2 жыл бұрын
I've been partial to Nosler partition bullets for most of my hunting. They have been good performers so I see no reason to change.
@glockparaastra
2 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@MarktheSharkC
2 жыл бұрын
No BC!
@22vampyre
2 жыл бұрын
@@MarktheSharkC BC means nothing withing ethical distances.
@MarktheSharkC
2 жыл бұрын
@@22vampyre my ethical distance must be way further than you! Learn to shoot!
@seanwhite304
2 жыл бұрын
My dad and uncle told me 25 years ago Nosler Partition is all you'll ever need . When the Accubond came out they said the only bullets you'll ever need is Nosler Partition and Accubond lol.. Federal Premium TLR Edge works extremely well at longer ranges . IMO the TLR EDGE performs better than the ELDX , or Accubond Long Range .. I'm really not a fan of the ELDX in general except for 6mm ARC. I've had extremely good results with 103g ELDX on hoggs and whitetail.
@christopherpearson3511
2 жыл бұрын
I've also deer hunted for 50 years. And, back in the 80s, Federal made a 165 grain high shock bullet in 30-06. They always exited, and caused tremendous hydrostatic shock. Most deer didn't take another step. Then, bullets started to get more specialized...and, more expensive..so, after trying several brands, I found that the Nosler Accubond and Partition NEVER failed me. They go down right there. I make my decision on which one to use, depending on the distance I'll be shooting. For shotguns, the Barnes copper solid is hard to beat. Now, and correct me if I'm wrong, when using a monolithic copper bullet, you need to drop down in bullet weight so as to help with expansion. It's hard to change to a Barnes TTSX, though, when what your already using is dropping them in their tracks. 1 shot...night night. I detest watching an animal suffer because a hunter is irresponsible. And, have gotten quite angry at others who just throw lead, and wound an animal. Now, those Noslers seem to help when shooters don't make that great of a shot. Anyway, that's my two cents...lol. Hunting seasons around the corner...good luck to everyone...be responsible...clean quick kills.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty good analysis, Chris, but dropping down in weight with TTSX, etc. bullets isn't necessary to improve expansion. Such bullets have been filmed emerging from apples and even cherry tomatoes fully expanded. It's the liquid entering the hollow cavity in the nose on impact that drives expansion. Hydraulics. Of course, cavity volume must be balanced with copper thickness and impact velocity, so there is a velocity level at which expansion is minimal (generally around 1,800 fps, though some bullets are engineered to open properly at speeds as slow as 1,400 fps, if I remember correctly. What I've found is that stepping down in weight a category or two (from traditional cup/core lead bullets) results in more MV and equal or better penetration because the coppers retain 90 to 100% weight.
@wickertwm
2 жыл бұрын
The last time I took my Steyr SSG 04 I shot 6 shots into the same hole. Totally amazed for a .308 Win.
@JamesJones-cx5pk
Жыл бұрын
The Hornady SST is the deerslayer in 308.
@ronspomer4366
Жыл бұрын
I had great success with 162-gr. SSTs in a 7mm Rem. Mag. on kudu at 330 yards, blesbok at about 200, bushbuck & springbuck inside of 200, a gray duiker -- but then a 150-yard shot to the boiler room of a little impala resulted in a long run and search. Finally had to hire the jack russell terrier to track the ram down. It was still on its feet! Bullet impacted right behind the shoulder. Should have been deadly. The "shock kills" school would have insisted a 7mm Rem. Mag. would have absolutely flattened that little ram. The "breaking up" bullet school would have voted for rapid bleed out. Yet that ram defied both to prove, once again, that there is no perfect bullet, no consistent performance that "works everytime." Hunters must be ready to track, shoot again, expect the unexpected and keep an open mind.
@ChrisBlackwood857
2 жыл бұрын
Lead free is a must an non fragmenting bullets as well. But on the high end it‘s Norma Eco Strike and RWS HIT and not cheap bullets like Barnes
@bobgordon1754
2 жыл бұрын
Animals don't know how much you paid for the bullets.
@aaronhysong405
4 ай бұрын
Barnes vor-tx lrx bt 175 all the way 30-06 ,the only one that seems like i like better handloaded burger bt, i dont like the 6.5 Creedmoor at all had a few i got a 6.5 prc great rifle sold the Creedmoors to much talk not as great as everyone says at all thanks ron
@MrProfchaos71
2 жыл бұрын
Anything I’ve ever shot with an SST has dropped in its tracks. I shot a very small buck with those Barnes bullets in the front shoulder. Ran off . Actually came back. Shot it again and small hole in ….slightly bigger hole out. Hit in middle of the middle using a 308 at 120 yards. Ran off again and found it 40 yards away still alive. You can keep that garbage.
@howardmcadams3852
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir for Sharing this Information
@REDNECKROOTS
Жыл бұрын
IDK the federal terminal accent is pretty close to the perfect bullet. I've seen them fully expand up to 500
@mickjenner6697
Жыл бұрын
Best 3 ,,, the 3 you have , seen the price , I switched to wooden arrows
@ChristopherEDenton
Жыл бұрын
What about Nosler Partition bullets
@TheRealTimKennedy
Жыл бұрын
i love copper bullets, not alot of high grain available for my 7 mag but i still use them alot.
@anthonybanks4633
2 жыл бұрын
I shoot a 142 Grain accubond long range out of my 6.5 cm
@bustabass9025
2 жыл бұрын
AccuBond LR and Partition
@Mj-CWO4
2 жыл бұрын
What’s the best reload manual?
@sturgeonkiller1
11 ай бұрын
Barnes are terrible. And the consistency is horrific. Barrel fouling is an issue. As a guide/ outfitter for 23 years, i have seen plenty of bullet performance. For short to medium range, there is no beating a partition in magnum calibers. The accubond is also extremely effective!. In standard calibers, most general factory stuff works well. I'm not a huge fan of Remington ammo, but the old greenbox corlokt kills well. For long, to super long range, eldx#1 berger vld#2. When velocity slows down, Barnes simply do not expand reliability!! I
@ronws2007
2 жыл бұрын
Most whitetail deer hunting is less than 1,000 yards. Actually around 300 yards or less and so many people have done well with the .30-30. So, yeah, the .308 Win is perfect for deer hunting. I say that even though I have seen a guy bring down a moose with a 6.5 Creedmoor. So, I am so tired of hearing how the .308 is lackluster and so many other rounds are so much better. So, yeah, the Marines used .308 in the M40 (based on the Remington 700) for years because why? Because it will knock a 200 pound target down at 600 yards. And it is a manageable recoil. And yes, I am preferential to the .308. I have 4 rifles in that caliber. The only long guns I have that are not that caliber are my WW Dissipator M4A3 in 5.56 NATO and my 590A1 SPX in 12 ga.
@jk-kr8jt
2 жыл бұрын
Ron, I can't believe they almost hung you up on thar 6.5 Greedy v 308 Winny question. Everybody knows that in 1955 the 308 did everything 10X better than the 30-06 and by 2009 the 6.5 Greedy was killing every buck within a 3/4 mile radius, without firing a shot. So the answer to 308 v 6.5 is simple. Use a 30-06, 270, 257 or 243. 😀
@davidanderson1951
Жыл бұрын
I have both 308 and 6.5 creed shot deer with both .308 outperforms the creed larger bullet front and carry due to heavier weight creed has too much bullcrap had a friend mailed by black bear using the creed if I had not been there he be dead creed knocked him down 3 times but did not stop him he had heart lungs shots on all 3 I hit him with .308 and he went like he had been by a truck be careful what shoot with creed
@jonfisher9960
Жыл бұрын
Barnes Nosler yes Hammer no way don’t like the break away pedals
@BuckIt00
2 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Can you mix your powder. Have a faster burn at the primer say just for numbers 25% then the rest go to a slower burn. Im not much on hand loads so just kicking it around
@lenzadlberger
2 жыл бұрын
If you want to blow your Face off than Mix some Powders ... you cant predict what the Pressure is doing with the Mix First Lesson for every Reloader should be only one sort of Powder is on the Bench at one Time.
@jonfisher9960
2 жыл бұрын
Noooo
@straponpigeon8566
2 жыл бұрын
This pigeon always had a strap on.
@jasonbroom7147
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the Accubond bullets in a couple different calibers and they do exactly what a bullet should do. They are Accurate, Penetrate, Expand and Exit. APEE
@bobgordon1754
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite bullet in the .300 weatherby is the 200 grain accubond.
@terryogden3339
5 ай бұрын
My favorite bullet for White tail and mule deer is the Remington core lock. I've had more DRTs with core locks than any other bullet. Never had anything go more than 30yrd. Very fond of Nosler Accubonds and partitions. Barnes TSX when Elk sized game is involved. But Core locks of appropriate weight have never left me disappointed.
@davemiller9314
11 ай бұрын
You should go into politics, 😂 You tip toe around trying not to upset anyone. 🤷♂😂 Always enjoy your videos..👍
@charlesadams7862
2 жыл бұрын
Hornady's Interlock seems to do fine for me in my 30-06. And the 170 corlokt in my 30 wcf.
@danielrobey1759
Жыл бұрын
For a lead core bullet I really like the Speer hot core. Very tough bullet and easy to get good accuracy with in my experience. I also like the Barnes ttsx in the truly high velocity rounds, it strikes like lightning in the 25/06AI… Honestly how fast you push it and where you place it is more important than the name on the box it came in. I could hunt the rest of my life with the hotcore bullets on anything in North America and be perfectly content.
@WildBushGrit
2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree on the Barnes, its all I've been using the past 5 years... they kill really fast.
@AlhanJ
2 жыл бұрын
I use 150g 308 Win and I got anything as light as fallow deer and heavier deer like Sambar and elks and oh boy let me tell you that they dropped on spots. If you know where to put your shot on than you don’t need any bigger caliber.
@_cal_techie
2 жыл бұрын
The .308 is such a workhorse with allow such a wide variety of loads, bullets, and powders that it is my choice.
@clintonlayne9253
2 жыл бұрын
Ron Now this is one of the best presentation that I have seen in a while .for me it's the 308. When I first entered the world of Muzzleloader hunting I bought a CVA Apollo in line next thing it was a Traditional Muzzleloader by Traditions 1 & 66 twist patched Round balls. I have more sense of accomplishment when I harvest a Deer.
@mountainmanmilitia3806
2 жыл бұрын
180gr interlock out of a 30-06. Cheap, accurate, will kill anything in North America.
@duckwacker8720
2 жыл бұрын
No reason for slow 180gr in 06
@russellkeeling4387
2 жыл бұрын
@@duckwacker8720 2800 fps with a 180 grain bullet is not slow. It comes in the sweet spot of 2700 to 2900 fps. It will also maintain its energy much further than a baby bullet. The 180 grain 308 caliber has a sectional density of .271 placing it in the elk hunting catagory.
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
2 жыл бұрын
Guessing from the thumbnail, Hammer Hunter, Barnes TTSX, Nosler Accubond/LR.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
You're good, Elliot!
@DaveL9170
2 жыл бұрын
The Accubond is the ultimate hunting projectile. Darned thing puts animals down QUICKLY!!!!
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveL9170 I don’t know about ultimate. We have a plethora of excellent bullets nowadays. The accubond is definitely a great bullet though.
@davidbrock1565
2 жыл бұрын
You guessed well!!
@RonSpomerOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Accubond is just that, not the Long Range version. Those all have gray tips.
@trdscfjc
2 жыл бұрын
Ron, I would really like to hear your thoughts on the 338 calibers as it relates to big N.A. game, the pros and cons of 338 lapua, 338 win mag and 338 rum. I think there's enough to talk about to spend a few minutes to discuss.
@10-4CodyWade
Жыл бұрын
I'd also like to hear his take on the 338s. Ron is generally a 400 yard or less kind of guy, so I'd say he would be partial to the 338 Win Mag. It has fairly ideal impact velocities from 0-450 yards with 225 grain bullets. The RUM, Lapua, Edge, and 338-378 each have their pros and cons but offer better performance with 250-300 grain bullets, and would be better choices for hunting beyond 500 yards. The 338 Lapua Improved is probably the best overall performer for long range stuff if you don't mind the extra leg work of shooting a non-commercial cartridge. The 338-06 is actually a very good hunting round for 300 yards or less, but never gained much popularity with the 35 Whelen being readily available and having similar performance.
@mikecampell
4 ай бұрын
Stick with Nosler or Hornaday traditional bullets, I am forced to use Nonlead in Calif. and hate them. When I go out of state, I'm able to use good bullets
@dimebag6982
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this will be an unpopular opinion. But the the sierra gameking has been an absolutely amazing bullet in my hunting career. You just have to make sure you shoot the right weight of bullet for the game you are shooting. Sometimes the bullet exits the animal, other times the jacket and core separate, and other times the jacket and core hold together. But everytime I have pulled the trigger with a gameking down the pipe, I have found my animal. What more can an ethical hunter ask for?
@gsnicholas8522
2 жыл бұрын
Gamekings and prohunters are great hunting bullets. They’re not fancy. They just work.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
Know your bullet and where to put it.
@russellkeeling4387
2 жыл бұрын
Sierra has been making high quality bullets for many years. The .358 cal. Sierra Gameking in my .35 Whelen is the best looking bullet I have ever loaded and it sure does the job. 225 grains at a muzzle of 2816 fps produces just under 4000 pound feet of energy and the elk have trouble digesting it. That big bore creates a nice wound channel and the sweet spot velocity keeps capillary damage low if I can avoid hitting big bones.
@eugenegress5896
Жыл бұрын
REMINGTON CORE LOKT: They use to be Available for Reloaders, Not anymore, Not for along Time. Apparently, they are the Toughest cup and Core Bullet. Since Remington doesn't have a Patent on them, and Refuse to make Available, How about a Major Bullet Mfg, Make an Exact spec Bullet; Match it exact.
@lonewolf286
Жыл бұрын
You talk a lot about rifle cartridges. How about slugs for a 12 gauge? How do you feel about hunting with 12 gauge slugs?
@doghousedon1
2 жыл бұрын
The Partition was always my go to bullet. But I've not been able to find enough of them of late to sneeze at and have started working with the copper bullets. I got hooked. If you really want a fun hunt with a muzzleloader, get a double barrel shotgun and go pheasant hunting. That is the muzzleloader hunt most guys look for but don't know exists. Your dog will have fun too. Thanks for the vid.
@b01tact10n
Жыл бұрын
I been loading Nosler Partition 180s for my 30'06. I got a good moose load! I take headshots from 25 to 50 yards to save the Rib meat. Rib meat is very priceless!
@ronaldjohnson1474
Жыл бұрын
I guess I don't understand the new "Creedmore" vs the old "Swedish" 6.5mm. They both perform well. Has the thought of a beautiful blonde lost it's attraction?
@jussi6905
2 жыл бұрын
Here in north europe i hunt with copper bullets, Lapua Naturalis and Sako Blade. No led to food. All the calibers 6,5-9,3 that i use they work as they are planned to work
@daveh2886
8 ай бұрын
Meat Eater did a good comparison of cup and core, bonded and monolithic bullets. The monolithic failed to expand at 300 yards and beyond. Look at the Norma Bondstrike ammo. It outperforms all of the major brands from a velocity, energy, drop and wind drift.
@bobparvin9773
2 жыл бұрын
What about the Federal Fusions?
@RonSpomerOutdoors
2 жыл бұрын
An effective bonded bullet. Soft, pure lead core, as I understand it, but since it's molecularly bonded to the jacket, the two parts stay together. However, since the core is so soft, you can and often do lose significant mass to erosion against hair, hide, meat, and bone. This can reduce penetration. I rank Fusion and similar bonded bullets with gilding metal jackets as one step above cup/cores, one step below partitioned or thicker jacketed bondeds.
@patrioticguy1791
2 жыл бұрын
The best bullet I've used when hand loading is the nosler ballistic tip hunting bullet. Great penetration and humane harvests. The best factory bullet I've used in my 270 win is Winchester double x pointed soft point. I've recovered a couple bullets from deer that were quartered towards me and away from me and the weight retention was around 80% with a beautiful mushroom. Regardless of the bullet or caliber, the key is a well-placed shot.
@stormiewutzke4190
2 жыл бұрын
The 7mm-08 is just perfect for deer. I don't know why I hate the .308 and love the little 7 but it's just better. For deer ranges it does have the best numbers.
@338federalshooter8
2 жыл бұрын
I love my 308s but there is something special about that 7. Everyone else must think so too because they are fairly hard to find now in a better rifle.
@LRRPFco52
2 жыл бұрын
7mm-08 is a superior cartridge to .308 Win., though not dramatically different. Biggest disadvantage to 7mm-08 is that nobody makes a factory target load for it, which is really where the 7mm can shine.
@russellkeeling4387
2 жыл бұрын
Even though the .308 is a wonderful caliber I also don't really care for it. I used to have one and loaded a lot of ammo for it. A .308 has a perfect combination of elements that make it a very accurate cartridge. The 7mm-08 is very nice. That .284 bullet really shines. I do not have a 7mm-08 but I do have a 7mm mauser and a .275 Rigby which are almost identical in ballistics to the 7mm-08. Even though I have taken elk with other caliber firearms I took the two largest ever with the 7mm mauser and 140 grain bullets. To really get the best from almost any rifle it's good to handload.
@LRRPFco52
2 жыл бұрын
@@russellkeeling4387 7mm-08 is what the T65/7.62x51 should have been. 139gr service rifle load, 154-162gr Sniper/DM/LMG load. Throat life is very similar to 7.62 NATO, as 7mm-08 isn't overbore. Great little cartridge.
@hedgeapplehomestead2816
2 жыл бұрын
Try a small chest freezer with a small generator instead of coolers
@hrdrockfarm8948
2 жыл бұрын
Hearing Ron say the 308 might be good for something almost makes me giddy. I almost thought I heard him say hunt moose with a 223 but I'm sure that was just my awful hearing at my advanced age.
@johncox2865
2 жыл бұрын
I used to know a guy with perfect eyesight who was a game warden on a military base in Texas. All he hunted whitetail with was the .223. Guy was a real hawk eye and only took spine shots in the neck. Not much penetration required there on a moose, either. The shock is what kills. The spinal cord is a vulnerable ‘organ’, almost like the brain . But, he had to pass up a few shots too. Now, I killed my first deer, with a 30-30, the same way, but he was too close, 15 yards, and my placement was high. I saw him a long time before he got there, and he never saw me at all. Still hit him, but missed the spine a little. Killed him as dead as a door nail anyway.
@hrdrockfarm8948
2 жыл бұрын
@@johncox2865 I know a guy who is special forces airborne did tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's a real bad a** guy. He wounded a doe last year with a 30-30 and lost her in thick cover. Dog couldn't find her either. He lost a deer the year before with his wife's 270 and he's a certified sniper. So, anything can happen(even to guys who jump out of planes.)
@DaveL9170
2 жыл бұрын
@@hrdrockfarm8948 several years ago I was less than 40 yards from a doe. Shot her directly in the breast plate facing at me with a .270 WSM loaded with 130 grain soft points. The shot was perfect. Never found the deer 🦌 and to the day I don’t know how that deer wasn’t dead.
@hrdrockfarm8948
2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveL9170 she probably was. You just didn't find her. My point is in the best of circumstances, bad things happen. There's no reason to start out undergunned.
@The_Judge300
2 жыл бұрын
Barnes TTSX bullets are by far my favourites. For all kinds of cartridges and animals.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
2 жыл бұрын
yes. turns .223 into an absolute hammer for hogs here in Florida.
@The_Judge300
2 жыл бұрын
@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 It is just amazing how the ttsx bullet has transformed the tiny 223 into a proper hunting cartridge. Before the 223 was to stretch it to use it on deer as well, but with the ttsx bullet, the 223 is perfectly fine to use on deer.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Judge300 agree 100%.
@roperbrad93
2 жыл бұрын
Love the content please do a video dedicated to the 264 win mag
@kennethbriody8396
2 жыл бұрын
Please
@kennethbriody8396
2 жыл бұрын
Its been my go to hunting cal.for 35 yrs out of 22 elk only had to do one follow up shot and it wasn't the bullets fault ,as I pull the trigger my body stepped up on the bumper of the truck I was using for a rest,the bullet tapped a pine tree at about 150 yds the elk was around 250yds and the bullet key holed into the elk that was the only follow up shot
@The_Judge300
2 жыл бұрын
Or the 6.5-06 🙂
@rogerramjet7567
Жыл бұрын
I am toying with the idea of trying the hammer.30 and .338. I would like to see accuracy and chronograph numbers.
@adamelam6385
2 жыл бұрын
I may try Barnes this year for the first time in rifles. My Tikka 7mm-08 is getting .75 with the TTSX in 120 grain. But I love ballistic tips.
@MrProngytung
7 ай бұрын
I'm fast becoming a fan of the 120 gr TTSX in the 7mm-08 myself.
@adamelam6385
7 ай бұрын
@@MrProngytung my first season with them was a success. Shot 3 deer and two only made it 15 feet.
@robertmajors1737
2 жыл бұрын
I've also switched exclusively to copper bullets for hunting. There's really no disadvantage as long as you're pushing them at high velocity. I've discovered at least for deer that grain weight and sectional density don't matter. My pet deer combos are 6.5creed/127 lrx, 7mm-08 120 ttsx, 308win/130 ttsx, 7mm rm/120 ttsx, and 300wm/150ttsx. I kind of want to try the 130 ttsx in my 300wm as well. I like shoulder shots as they will always go through and break both shoulders in my experience. I feel like this is the best way to use coppers, although they work fine behind the shoulder as well, just not as quick a kill as lead in that scenario. When I shot lead bullets, I shot Nosler exclusively. Never had a failure with any of them. I had one jacket separation on a 140 ballistic tip from a 7mm mag at 3100 fps, but tge animal fell dead where it stood. Not sure what happened, but I shot a 300 plus pound boar through both shoulders with the same load and it exited and anchored that beast. I know they work, it just changed my thinking when I saw all the x-rays of ground game meat with lead fragments all throughout them. Like you wouldn't drink water you knew had lead in it right?
@scbane
2 жыл бұрын
You like shoulder shots? So, rather than waste a bit of rib meat, you prefer bloodshot/wasted meat on the order of 15-20% of the total meat weight.
@robertmajors1737
2 жыл бұрын
@@scbane If you shoot low in the shoulder maybe. I shoot the point of the blade (high shoulder), and there's really not much meat there. It also usually breaks the spine and gives bang flop deaths. Occasionally I do lose a little meat, but I feel the instant death and lack of tracking are worth it as I hunt a pretty small piece of property. Also, the bullets I use don't come apart like a lead one does and the meat damage isn't usually as bad as you'd expect.
@bobgordon1754
2 жыл бұрын
I've used the 130 grain TTSX in a .30/06 at top end and the results are impressive.
@robertmajors1737
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobgordon1754 I'm going to try it eventually in my 300wm. I've seen a video on here of a guy firing it from a 30-378 weatherby into 3 or 4 feet of wet newspaper with 2x4's on each end and it didn't come apart from that abuse, so I'm pretty sure it'll be okay. I have a bunch of other new loads to try out this season, so it may get pushed to next year, but I'm going to try it.
@bobgordon1754
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertmajors1737 I've tested it in water and on game. In water it expands to more than double the caliber. I shot a very large whitetail doe through the ribs. I was afraid even with a rib shot I might ruin some meat but only damaged the ribs. It sucked most of the lungs out the exit hole which was about the size of a silver dollar. I would not be afraid to use that bullet on anything.
@scottearnst8152
2 жыл бұрын
Hammer! So thankful for there availability Barnes! Thank you Barnes for the innovation and technology research, opened so many doors. ???nosler??? Just don’t know that last projectile Ron, but looking forward to learning! Thanks for another great video!
The Nosler partition is the gold standard. The bullet all others are compared to. The Barnes alloy TTSX, LRX are the new kids on the block. For a cheap, yet effective, hunting bullet, the Hornady interlocks are what a lot of us consider the "poor man's partition". There are many excellent bullets out there right now, but that is where I put my hard earned money.. What some guys don't understand, is you don't need a "controlled expansion" premium bullet, to kill a deer or elk. Most times the Hornady interlock will suffice.. and for the money, they are damn hard to beat.
@darrinperkins1270
5 күн бұрын
Have you used browning BXS (copper) 139 grain I got some on a crazy good deal, but not familiar with them
@johngoodman9380
Жыл бұрын
The last 5 deer I shot with a .308 shouted out "Pizzas" as they collapsed. No disrespect to Ron, but I'll take the deer's word for it!
@vodekz1534
2 жыл бұрын
for my 308 win 180 gr Accubond at 2570 fps with 45 gr of Varget, 20 inch barrel rifle
@duckwacker8720
2 жыл бұрын
No reason for 180gr. Go to 165gr.
@vodekz1534
2 жыл бұрын
@@duckwacker8720 180 gr AB from Nosler shoots better than 165gr AB. Another good shooing bullet is 168 gr Classic Hunter from Berger. 2680 PFS and shoots in less than 1/2 inch at 100 yards.
@MrTacklebury
2 жыл бұрын
Nosler Accubond LR & Hornady ELD-X and Sub-X for subsonics.
@chrisb9478
Ай бұрын
I’ve had good luck with Hornady SST & Nosler BT. And if I need a tougher bullet, Barnes TTSX & Hornady Cx/gmx.
@grampsoutdooradventuresdal7104
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ron, again, for an excellent presentation. I’m a whitetail hunter exclusively and have been stuck on the 308 since I upgraded from the 300 Savage years ago, I hunt in woods not much in meadows. You’re probably already zeroing in on my age so at 69 I find that I share your romance with traditional all the way from recurves & longbows to traditional style muzzle loaders. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing.
@338federalshooter8
2 жыл бұрын
Ron, I want to hunt black bear here in Georgia. I'm thinking a few hunts in the southern swamps and maybe one in the north Georgia mountains. Can you give me some tips because it will be my first time hunting bears? We can only hunt bears in the fall.
@dalemyers9045
2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I grew up in coastal Georgia and only ever saw one or two bears. Never hunted them although some of my cousins did. I never tried the meat. What's it like?
@338federalshooter8
2 жыл бұрын
@@dalemyers9045 I’ve only had it once and it was awesome. It was a Virginia bear though and I have read what they eat can make a difference in taste
@briansteele1378
2 жыл бұрын
Terminal Ascent by Federal is my go too
@m444ss
5 ай бұрын
Two common complaints about all-copper bullets seem to be based on bad info: 1- Not accurate. As both Ron Spomer & Jim Harmer have both verified ==> generally, this results from firing copper bullets in a barrel fouled with lead and gilding metal from cup & core bullets; just need to clean the bore, and most likely accuracy will be just fine. 2- (Too) Light for caliber. Heavier cup & core bullets might start out heavier, but almost instantly shed lead (i.e., shed mass & energy). Monolithic bullets retain much more weight that continues to push through bone & tissue.
@dbeardsley0
2 жыл бұрын
CVA HMR Paramount is the best muzzleoader I've ever owned. It's capable of killing a whitetail consistently at 400 yards and shoots sub MOA on 3 shot groups at 100
@tripplebeards3427
10 ай бұрын
Remington core loct, Nosler partition, and Nosler ballistic tips are my 3 favorites. Cast bullets I’m sure won’t be in the line up but cast 200 grain hollow points in my 35 rem drop deer better than any commercial jacketed bullet on the market. All Copper are junk. No energy transfer and horrible accuracy. Couldn’t het minute of barn at 100 yards. The same rifles shoot .3 or better at 200 yards. The all copper are like shooting animals with FMJs info bone is hit. Accubonds are just as horrible for accuracy and same FMJ like performance on thin skinned game. You picked the worst bullets on the market.lol. I won’t fight you for them along with most hunters on the planet.
@tlloyd9325
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the Barnes! As a side bar, I also like the Sierra Game Kings. A wired plus is in my rifles so far they both shoot to the same point of impact with the same hand loads. I’ve only “lost” one animal and that was with a Hornady.
@dargie12317
7 ай бұрын
I have really good luck with Hammer bullets, I like Accubond, not good luck with Berger.
@COREYDEER
3 ай бұрын
If I could get federal trophy bonded tipped for reloading I’d put them in everything but good luck in Canada.
@mikesteffensen700
Ай бұрын
Nosler partition thats all you need 150 grain.never had a deer run with them . One and dun!!!
@isellcatlitter
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't recommend brining a gun into Canada. Especially today.
@anthonysullivan4202
Жыл бұрын
i agree! ive shot over 1500 red deer with 7mm08 and 120gr ttsx and thats jjust the 7m08....
@davesnodgrass2074
25 күн бұрын
The nosler accubond reloader and I've tried basically every bullet on the market
@eddiek4978
Жыл бұрын
25-06 ttsx 100 gr bullet is like the finger of God! On most deer sized game animals
@Amblos-jk7uo
2 жыл бұрын
Norma Oryx for me.
@bigtrev761
Жыл бұрын
🇦🇺😎👍
@lorenzotelleria1858
2 жыл бұрын
Where in Africa and with whom would you go for that first Safari /Hunt (not dangerous species)?
@johac7637
Жыл бұрын
I started handloading in the late 80s, early 90s got my favorites chosen out, so I stocked up as the case lots were cheap after hunting season closed, so I've not changed much, Barnes, Nosler, Sierra for my 270 Win depending on target, all the way from Yotes, to Moose. again it was what my target was.
@dimebag6982
2 жыл бұрын
As well, reloader 26 with the 270 win will get you 3100 fps with 150gr bullet. Ask Randy Selby, he will agree with this statement. New powders do give reloaders higher velocity with lower pressures. Just have to do your research.
@gsnicholas8522
2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting over 3k with reloader 26 and 150’s in my 270.
@ronlowney4700
2 жыл бұрын
🤠 Yep! 👍
@ronlowney4700
2 жыл бұрын
I also know a guy name Jess that said he got 0.3" MOA groups with Reloader 26 at 3,300 ft/s with a 130 grain bullet out of his 270 Winchester, with a 24" barrel! 🔥
@ronlowney4700
2 жыл бұрын
I believe that Randy's guns all come with 26" barrels though? 🤷♂️
@russellkeeling4387
2 жыл бұрын
Velocity isn't the solution to everything. New powders are not necessary to reach high velocity. IMR 4350 will push a 150 bullet from a 30-06 at 3000 fps but it's not necessarily what I want in a hunting rifle.
@andrewbabin3341
2 ай бұрын
1. CUTTING EDGE 2. NORTHFORK 3. HAMMER
@toddparsons2980
2 жыл бұрын
The SSTs have been so explosive on hogs. Have tried many but they drop them harder and faster.
@russty3159
2 жыл бұрын
My 270 superformance in 140 SST have been lights out at anything I have pointed it at deer bear moose all fell over .
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
2 жыл бұрын
the Barnes Triple Shocks are also amazing. They really make .223 punch above its weight. Hogs fall in their footprints.
@russellkeeling4387
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I want explosive bullets when I'm hunting something I want to eat.
@toddparsons2980
2 жыл бұрын
@@russellkeeling4387 lol
@JohnHavern-xx2jm
6 ай бұрын
Ron, I've been hunting 62 years and like you love using different calibers. I don't reload and my wallet and I benefit greatly from information in your podcast. I'm hunting with a patriot 7m 08 and typically in Pennsylvania don't get shots past 100 to 150 yards. What copper bullet do you suggest and what powder, if I can find a knowledgeable reloader.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
6 ай бұрын
Barnes or Hammer bullets have worked well for me.
@JoeZelensky
2 жыл бұрын
308 vs 6.5C for deer. Depends on the distance. If under 300 yards either works. If cost is a factor then 308. If you can spend a little more for ammo 6.5C.
@JourneyJackson1
Жыл бұрын
All-copper bullets are no good past 400 yards as they often fail to expand. In fact, a good friend of mine shot a cow elk at 359 yards with a .338 Win (210gr TTSX) and the exit wound was nearly identical to the entry wound with very little blood and tissue damage. The cow was still alive after 10 minutes and I had to go back to the truck and retrieve a rifle to finish her off. I thought it was a fluke until I had the same experience hunting elk with my .300 WBY (150TTSX). I shot an elk through the lungs at ~325 yards and she ran about 300 yards and laid down! The exit wound was about the size of a nickel with very little blood loss. Were it not for open country I would have likely lost the animal. Totally unacceptable! All-copper bullets may be safer, but they are not as accurate and do not kill well at long range. Accubond's are good bullets, but they are often expensive and I don't buy bullets in packs of 50 ;)
@spf-92.5
Жыл бұрын
Sheesh that doesn't make me feel any better about ttsx. I bought 150 gn hoping for guaranteed expansion on mid range shots with my 300 win. I figured these would expand no matter what unless too long of a shot. 3300 fps you would think is enough. The 300 wby must blast these at about 3400 ~.
@lancemiller9110
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Ron. Your advice and knowledge is incredible. As an inline muzzleloader Hunter in September, a bow Hunter in November, and a rifle Hunter in December, your videos have educated me for my next grand plan. 7mm-08 it is for my son’s first (and maybe only) whitetail deer rifle . I’m a 30-06 guy myself, but that’s what I grew up with, and I have a special relationship with this rifle. I’ll be watching you for more 7mm-08 videos. Appreciate all your information!
@HotRod7mm
2 жыл бұрын
I’m tempted to try the Hammers in my 7RM.
@scbane
2 жыл бұрын
$1.60/projectile, last I checked.
@HondaRiderX17
2 жыл бұрын
@@scbane yeah that's hard to swallow but when you can't find accubons or partitions what do you do.
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