Ive been off and on Valium for years. Last time I decided to taper I was at 20mg daily. I got all the way down to 1.25mg of valium before I jumped. During a stressful time in my life last year I started taking Valium again. Never more than 10mg daily. That was last may. Once the "honeymoon" phase of being back on benzos was over, and I needed 10mg just to back at baseline, I realized I needed to taper but did not have the will power until recently. I have been decreasing 1.25 mg every 7 days and just recently made it to 5mg. Thank you for your videos! So happy that there is someone KZitem willing to share this information.
@jbwetzstein
Жыл бұрын
I was on less than 1 mg K daily for 1.5 months and 0.25 to 0.5 mg K or less PRN for 1.5 months before I started having withdrawal symptoms. At the time, I was 39. After doing a bit of searching on the internet, I realized what had happened to me and decided I had to start tapering. I could not go any faster than about 6% every two weeks without having intolerable symptoms, and eventually that went down to about 5% for a number of months. I have now been tapering for close to a year and a half and am down below .075 mg K and getting close to the end. I've been able to speed up to 10% every two weeks, but my symptoms are miserable and hellacious, and I deal with them every day. Thankfully, they do tend to let up shortly before bedtime. So I'm an example of someone who should have been very "low risk" and yet could not come off easily. There are no hard and fast rules for how benzodiazepines will affect a person. These are good rules of thumb for tapering, but just because you are young and on a "low" dose for a short amount of time, does not mean you are "low risk."
@gracegrace1896
Жыл бұрын
I’m 58 and can’t get off at all. Been trying since 2017. It is nearly impossible at my age, my life stressors, and having been drugged by doctors since 1997. I’m losing hope.
@xy-qy2yg
Жыл бұрын
I am 25 and got extremely dependent after 5 days. In hellish long taper ever since.
@Anxiety_warrier
2 ай бұрын
@@xy-qy2yg you must be joking i couldnt stop laughing coz i couldnt start laughing ... 5 days and dependant ... you must have got the definition wrong
@xy-qy2yg
2 ай бұрын
@@Anxiety_warrier NO I HATE THAT EVEN IN THIS FUCKING COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY SHOULD UNDERSTAND SO MANY ASSHOLES REACT THIS WAY. IT HAPPENED TO ME OKAY. I AM A HORRIBLE CASE. I WENT TO FUCKING TINNITUS CBT THERAPY AND THEY PUSHED ME THE CLONAZEPAM WHILE I WAS SUGGESTIBLE FROM THE CORTISONE WITHDRAWAL AND I TOOK IT AND IT DESTROYED MY BRAIN INSTANTLY. 2 YEARS LATER AND I STILL CANNOT EAT OR WALK OR TALK. I HAVE ZERO LEFT IN MY FUCKING BRAIN. IT IS COMPLETELY BLANK. I HAVE ALL THE SYMPTOMS WTF.
@cindynappa1417
Жыл бұрын
I am currently doing a daily microdose dry cut taper from .75 Clon. and am at .50, tapering since October 2022. I definitely know that I will need to slow down from my current 5% every 2 weeks as I’m starting to feel the effects so your advice is right on!
@gracegrace1896
Жыл бұрын
I am 58. Was on Xanax from 1997-2013. They then switched me to Klonopin, 4mg in 2013. I’ve been able to get down to 3mg but I think I’m in tolerance. Suffering. I’ve tried tapering 5% every 6-8 weeks and can only get to 2.8 mg. Around there- became terribly suicidal which I’ve never been in my life. I’ve gone up to 3 mg. I’m miserable. I am feeling hopeless as if I’ll never get off. I cannot handle any stress or work or live life. It’s as if these drugs have destroyed me. I’m empty. Nothing left of me. No support. I feel stuck. Many symptoms. How do people get off? No one understands this suffering and look at me as if I’m not even trying. I wish I could find a doctor who can help me. I’ve read the Ashton Manual. Nothing helps.
@pjprevite3021
8 ай бұрын
How are you doing now
@gracegrace1896
8 ай бұрын
@@pjprevite3021 not well at all. The same. Especially since mom has been put into memory care and blames me. And my son started drinking. I’m in the same stuck spot. But I’m still slowly going down because I want a chance at life. I’m getting old.
@Joylynnfrancis
2 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Dr. Josep ever reply to some of these such desperate comments???
@TerriEdwards-cn9sz
Жыл бұрын
How long should a taper off of .25 Xanax for 4 months of use generally take?
@Adaisy45
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. I’m a 58 year old female, non smoker in good health otherwise. I’ve been on .5 mg Klonopin for 20 years unfortunately. I’m planning on starting a slow taper over a period of maybe 2 years. I want to take it slow. I always take 1/2 my pill in the morning and the other 1\2 at night. Would you anticipate interdose withdrawal at all? I’d like to continue on 2x a day if possible rather than 3. I am also on Pamelor but not planning on going off this. This antidepressant was my savior actually. Dr. Actually said we could bump this up a little. Time to get off the evil Klonopin but I must say I’ve never had any issues with it.. Feeling anxious about going off but hopeful.
@stacisrainbownursery7825
3 ай бұрын
Hi did you ever start your taper ?
@apocalypta3620
2 ай бұрын
I did the exponential cut at first and then slowed it down. Now at .084 clonazepam once at night. This worked well for me, was starting to experience serious neurological damage to phrenic and vagus nervous system, tinnitus. Belly is better, breathing is better. Tinnitus is not as loud. Was going to stop sooner but had a terrible shock these past weeks and decided to stick to the .084 at night. Even so, sleep is once again interrupted with one completely sleepless night. Reinstating is not an option for me. I only see worse consequences to that. Praying neural injuries are healing. I don't use melatonin more than five times a month because I don't want it to lose it's effectiveness. But I used that and got one hour sleep out of it on the sleepless night and I find it's very calming all the next day.
@Joylynnfrancis
3 ай бұрын
Hello Dr Josef, I have been taking 8mg of Xanax for the past 6 months, prior to that it was 6mg for the previous year and 4 mg for several years, Going back to 2004. I am using your information to share with my doctor as she is new and my other doctor retired. Can you help me with a taper schedule for her? I am 61 and have a GAD. Thank you. 🙏🏼
@Itslorena_618
8 ай бұрын
Wanna taper off Xanax... Been taking 0.5 for 3 yrs .. am i consiederd low risk? Would the water taper be good?
@zubiajamil7497
Ай бұрын
Is brain fogging also a symptom of benzos withdrawal?
@taperclinic
Ай бұрын
yes
@Justfor2day10
5 ай бұрын
I dropped back from 1mg to .5mg with no issues once when I was running everyday. Then some years later my doctor took me off on a slow taper and I had a meltdown that lasted for 3 or 4 years. I’m back on 1mg a day.
@rocknrollfrenchfries
5 ай бұрын
Please help. I am on 15mg temazepam. How do you recommend tapering.
@shirleypeterson-rp3tq
4 ай бұрын
I’m doing a liquid tapering from Ativan why I’m not sleeping and having more anxiety.
@Saracollins1985
Жыл бұрын
If you could please add in that lower risk people have a partner and they have all their bills paid and they have no worries about where to live and what to eat and how they’re going to function and they have tons of support and then a higher risk person would be someone who has to work and function and pay bills. No one ever seems to Factor in the Socio economic situation of the person. I’ve seen people who have tons of support and live in a healthy environment and they can taper in a lot easier fashion versus someone who is in an unhealthy and toxic situation either environmentally physically etc. Also I think you need to factor in the medication. Because Klonopin is not the same exact drug is Xanax. They attach differently in the brain and what I have seen over the years is that people who have been on Xanax seem to do so much better than people on long-term Klonopin for example. And of course cold turkey or doing too fast of a taper is bad for either situation
@toddbridges7430
Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly!!!! I’m high risk, older, craptastic soci economic situation and my dumber than a rock specialist makes light of it Living in a motorhome in the backyard junkyard an old friend.job loss, him and his wife hate each other and my doc is all cheeery with” well at least ya don’t have to decorate a motorhome” It’s as if most of these docs are oblivious or willfully so out of self preservation. Many are unequipped for such a task and didn’t know the JOB would be this tough. Big pharma set the whole society at risk
@gracegrace1896
Жыл бұрын
This is so sad, Todd. I’m older long term use. If I didn’t have my husband i would be homeless. He has to work 14 hours hard labor, 6 days a week at age 62 in pain. He doesn’t understand my suffering and i don’t know why he stays with me. I am a caregiver to my 28-year-old son who psychiatry has messed up worse than me. He has suffered so much and has had no chance at adult life. I’m also caring for my 87-year-old mother but it is becoming increasingly difficult. I do not have the stamina and stress anxiety depression is through the roof. No support from family and they just don’t get it that I can barely function. I don’t know what to do.
@gracegrace1896
Жыл бұрын
Benzodiazepines destroy lives. They should have never been given to us long term. They drug companies should be sued for all damages.
@ryancormack6117
2 ай бұрын
Well said, you made some very good points there. I've come on and off benzos more times than I can remember. Only ever been prescribed them as a detox, always just liked them and the feeling they gave me. Social factors play a big role, financial situations, having to keep a job and appearances because we all know how people be... Neighbours see you looking strung out and your neighbour Suzie is talking about it by 11am with her neighbour over tea and fucking biscuits. I'm away to start a taper to get off of using benzos again so wish me luck! I'm gonna need it in spadefulls haha
@ryancormack6117
2 ай бұрын
@@toddbridges7430Damn dude, high five for not slapping the doctor for saying that! It isn't there fault though, I know that, big Pharma have a big, fat fucking stick right up our arses and we are going over the fire. Legalise weed ffs, this isn't funny anymore
@user-yv1hu8rs1d
4 ай бұрын
Why should the goal be to stop ? Why can’t the goal be to lower extremely slowly. Lower every month by shaving very litttlr off until let’s say someone is on 1.5 mg they shave every month until they get to 0.5 after years. Then later in life they can deal with microdosing from 0.5 as if they started with 0.5 and then lower slowly again until one is no longer taking it. I feel if the goal is to lower extremely slowly and not to stop it tricks the brain and one after several years will find they are no longer on it
@SM-zf6ye
20 күн бұрын
What if I’m taking 2mg of Klon at bedtime for insomnia, anxiety and myoclonus. How would I taper? I never take it during the daytime
@marksmallwood4938
2 ай бұрын
I’ve been on diazepam for 18 years. Started off on 5mg but got tolerance and addicted. I eventually had a crisis last week and a nervous breakdown. I confessed all to my family and GP. They have started me on the Ashton withdrawal method. I was on 40mg and I’ve done a week on 38mg. I feel absolutely fine at the moment but feel it’s very early and I’m worried how it will go. The GP was very understanding and isn’t going to rush me. Has anyone else been just on diazepam and how did they get on?
@brandonsmith5673
Ай бұрын
I broke my neck in August of 2011. I’m a c6/7 level quadriplegic. I have a lot of spasms. I’ve been on 120mg of baclofen a day pretty much the whole time. I don’t sleep worth a crap ever. I’m tired all the time. I weened myself off gabapentin years ago. I had a positive reaction when getting off it. I take 12 baclofen a day 10mg each. I’ve tried going to 11 a day for awhile then 10. My spasms get a lot worse. I end up taking the full dose again. I need to get off this crap.
@tomgreve8014
16 күн бұрын
I was taken down by fourty percent after 15 years of zanax at 6 mg per day and almost killed myself on day 5... My sister, thankfully walked me back from the ledge and told me to get back on the original dosage which still took five days for me to stop shaking... I'm 69 years old and it seems the risks don't outweigh the rewards. My physician says this is how he tapers and now he won't prescribe at all!!! Help... I'd rather live my golden years in peace...
@Ndags23
Жыл бұрын
I have liquid valium. I’ve tapered down from 15 mg to 6mg. I am having horrible withdrawals. I can barely function. How should I taper these last 6ml? I was on benzos for two years. I’m having interdose withdrawals with valium.
@mebpoli01
5 ай бұрын
Take it very, veerryy slow, and if possible, microscopically slow. And always consult a professional rather than random people like me on social media. Even though the advice you see is mostly true.
@yvettegonzales3522
3 ай бұрын
I have been on Ativan for 17 days now for alcohol withdrawal and started at 4 mg at the hospital and have now tapered down to 1.5 mg the last 3 days my doctor wants me to do another taper now to 1 mg a day I am feeling some anxiety do you think this paper is too fast she said because I have not been on it for that long she just don't want me to get more dependent on it and would like to taper me off quickly I am 48 years old
@xy-qy2yg
2 ай бұрын
Personal opinion if it is just anxiety. Get the hell off this drug ASAP
@springfieldfats4386
4 ай бұрын
How do we do it in Australia
@Joylynnfrancis
2 ай бұрын
I feel so awful for you all. 🙏🏼🌻
@Je-cj2vu
Ай бұрын
I need help me
@Keto4MentalHealth
Жыл бұрын
Benzos saved me. I’m being very wary how I use them as my anxiety and sleep issues are fixed by therapy and lifestyle changes.
@Justfor2day10
5 ай бұрын
57 years old, 1mg daily for tens years, I’m screwed!!
@devinramos6317
4 ай бұрын
No you’re not screwed. I’ve been on it for 10 years and I’m doing a slow taper. You can too.❤
@Justfor2day10
4 ай бұрын
@@devinramos6317 Ty! How do you feel and how much did you taper off of and how long before you started your next taper?
@Spoznaeb
Ай бұрын
I eat the cotton candy from my walls
@Mrxleif
Жыл бұрын
I am current tapper from long term clonopin 6mg been gone to valium 60 mg and go from there i do wait 2-3 weeks feel how it feels but yeah long tapper is best i think some ppl say u dont want to make it to long but idk
@Sears111
Жыл бұрын
As a long term Xanax user I urge you to take as long as you need. Do not rush your process and don’t listen to other people. Everyone has a different journey when tapering this horrible medication we were prescribed.
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