But for tight spaces like a spaceship, it would be great. WW1 German soldiers can confirm it.
@MarcusVance
Ай бұрын
Ehh. The lightest levels of armor would provide resistance, and we'd still have recoil issues.
@nickbrothers9155
Ай бұрын
they didnt have body armor in ww1
@arson3921
Ай бұрын
@@nickbrothers9155But we do now and would in space, so like, doesn't apply to the point
@nickbrothers9155
Ай бұрын
@@arson3921 ya no shit that was my point
@optimusprime5448
Ай бұрын
Yeah but it also depends what armor your rocking in the ship, cause a face blast will still do the trick with buck shot and minimal chance of pass through, and if your wearing kevlar that shit is still going to hurt, if we are talking a zero g situation though shooter would have to be firmly planted to something to shoot and stay stationary, maybe mag boots idk. Shotguns can still slap in modern close quarter combat scenarios is all I’m sayin even with armor, but i do agree with all the other factors of being in space not ideal for outside the ship
@WhiteSheetCoverUp1
Ай бұрын
Handheld flechette launchers because the Geneva checklist doesn't specify space combat.
@rezaganjizadeh4263
Ай бұрын
Only a republic war criminal would say that. GLORY TO THE CONFEDERACY!!!
@Quindroid
Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t they have stability issue in space as there is no air for the fletchings to catch?
@danielwilke7574
Ай бұрын
Geneva convention applies to all wars no matter where. Can be on the ground, on the sea, in space or the air, it would still apply
@ro00000
Ай бұрын
Space counts as international waters.
@Newvegasfiend
Ай бұрын
They actually do
@The_MOA.
29 күн бұрын
Damn. the crossover we never knew we wanted until we got it
@kommandantgalileo
Ай бұрын
Stak and Marcus? In the same video?! Great scot!
@MarkARoutt
Ай бұрын
Like a year ago when I started seeing their stuff, I thought they were the same guy.
@kommandantgalileo
Ай бұрын
@@MarkARoutt lol
@noahthehoneyboy6294
Ай бұрын
Ok hear me out. Crossbow. No air resistance and lower gravity means extra range, what we lose in velocity will be made up in mass, and as there is no sound in a vacuum the flash of gunfire will be the only way to find the direction of your attacker so the crossbow is the perfect stealth weapon in space. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
@FairlyFatherless
Ай бұрын
Do depleted uranium tipped crossbow bolts fired at Mach speed violate the Geneva Suggestion?
@mihacimpric745
Ай бұрын
@@FairlyFatherlessConsider this: Railgun powered depleted uranium handheld flechette laucher. Perfectly in line with the Geneva to-do list.
@fungoose2195
Ай бұрын
i see a problem with stabilisation. The tolerances on that weapon would have to be ridiculous. possible of course but a bang or buckle could cripple your weapon.
@mihacimpric745
Ай бұрын
@@fungoose2195 Shush. Lemme dream.
@fungoose2195
Ай бұрын
@@mihacimpric745 please do, I honestly love the idea. I tend to think of scifi weapons as a story telling device/ game design point. So weaknesses that are clear and pretty technical get me into it.
@martinwolker9510
Ай бұрын
Space suits is also divided into sections and once you get a "puncture", the damaged section, let's say left hand, gets separated from the rest of the suit. And the vacuum of space does not kill you the way they showed you in the movies, the exposed body part would survive without sustaining too much damage from the lack of atmospheric pressure, if you got back on time.
@magnarkorsmo1894
Ай бұрын
Finally someone points out that space isnt some magical instant kill gas
@SirMatthew
Ай бұрын
You are however almost certainly going to be put out of combat. The outgassing of the affected body part would be incredibly painful and basically unusable.
@igobongers5526
Ай бұрын
To be fair , the video He's reacting to the dude, isn't a military man He's an archaeologist or something like that
@gamingghosto8494
Ай бұрын
what does that have to do with anything? being in the military doesnt make you an expert in ballistics, space combat or firearms. it just means you know how to follow orders. as knowledgeable person in the guns and ballistics area i can confirm this
@dutch_asocialite
Ай бұрын
@@gamingghosto8494 Presumably, he means his specialty is in archaeology, not materiel.
@piney4562
Ай бұрын
He's a man who enthusiastically speaks to a camera, and typically manages a half truth at best.
@krosskreut3463
Ай бұрын
Them he should know quite well material properties, just none of us expected space suits were this reinforced
@Tyler-nh6oy
Ай бұрын
He’s actually a “historian” who regularly comments from a false position of authority on things he has no expertise or even clue about.
@Unit-3D
Ай бұрын
Anything with high recoil would be exhausting to manage in microgravity. Your mass would be insufficient to absorb the full recoil, so you'd be needing to arrest the momentum of your entire body with each shot. This is based on one of the earlier space missions wherein one of the astronauts almost died of exhaustion while doing the planned external work, specifically because he had to force his body to a stop after every movement. Later spacecraft would have exterior handles to address this danger.
@briancong12345
Ай бұрын
Strong argument to be made for the Vector with flechette .45 or 9mm then.
@smokedbeefandcheese4144
Ай бұрын
you know recoiless shotgun is posible right? shot just needs a counterweight
@Demertech
Ай бұрын
Kalashnikov sr1 😁
@MyAramil
Ай бұрын
Not unless you have stabilizing jets designed to counteract the effect. Attach its sensor to the hand and then when it detects the recoil it would flare them for a moment.
@Unit-3D
Ай бұрын
Not talking about shotguns specifically, or whatever, just bringing up a general rule of movement in microgravity. My own experience with a no-frills 12 gauge pump action would indicate that that specific gun would be a bad choice, and most of of the high-caliber pistols we collectively refer to as hand cannons are probably also bad for the same reason, but I'm well aware that multiple variations exist of virtually every gun and cartridge available. I am very curious, however, as to how well a war bow or crossbow would perform in microgravity, based on Alan Shepard famously managing to drive a golf ball 40 yards with an improvised club, with just a one-handed swing and no hip rotation on account of the stiffness and bulk of his suit.
@FairlyFatherless
Ай бұрын
Obviously the best weapon would be the XM214 Microgun because I can't aim.
@mannman627
Ай бұрын
Hypothetically you could use it as a makeshift rocket to propel yourself
@t-rex9809
Ай бұрын
Starfield
@FleshWizard69420
27 күн бұрын
jetpack joyride
@death5244
Ай бұрын
I think that war in space would be more focused on destroying space infrastruckture (satelites, space stations) and even spaceships rather than directly killing astronauts. Granted there could be situations where it would be preferable to not destroy enemy targets (gaining control of usable satelites/stations, prefenting creation of debree in orbit)
@user-sm4mi8ug9q
Ай бұрын
I wonder if space warfare between two advance spaceships will just be like submarine warfare but space
@recruit-legionary
Ай бұрын
@@user-sm4mi8ug9qI see it being basically that but like a lot fucking worse because up there all modern day nuclear missiles would be considered small so imagine the destructive power we would be using up there
@user-sm4mi8ug9q
Ай бұрын
@@recruit-legionary true, you would essentially have a pretty major checkmate whenever someone wants to go to war with you.
@davisjian8250
Ай бұрын
@@user-sm4mi8ug9qthe ships are also going to VERY far away from each other because there wouldn't be any thing to slow down projectiles meaning you could engage a enemy ship at much longer distances, especially with laser because they travel at the speed of light thus making them extremely long range in space with nothing to scatter the light. Ships would also need to be equipped with large radiators to radiate the heat away created by reactors, crew, guns, machinery, and especially laser due to the low efficiency.
@beng2307
Ай бұрын
Bro's got the space force taking notes 😅
@pavelmorozov6599
Ай бұрын
So 4.6x30 from an mp7 would be perfect. Its low recoiling, high fire rate, super compact and the stock collapses so you could aim it with a big space helmet on you, and still have the option to extend the stock if you need it.
@dogloversrule8476
Ай бұрын
If you watch to the end of the short, he says that it wouldn’t work these days
@MarcusVance
Ай бұрын
Not in the youtube short that I watched in its entirety that he posted Apr 22 2024. He said birdshot would be a viable choice.
@dogloversrule8476
Ай бұрын
@@MarcusVance you’re right, I think I saw it on instagram.
@akrontranquillitas9504
Ай бұрын
Ah, civil discourse.
@PartyPooPer4256
Ай бұрын
Please PLEASE tell me my two favorite KZitemrs might have a collab
@Sip_Dhit
Ай бұрын
2 of 3 short-form weapons and history Channels would be pretty stellar
@mormacil
Ай бұрын
No, I want beef with a crescendo that's a mock duel
@IamMeHere2See
Ай бұрын
The thing I loved aboit the Expanse is that a lot of small arms have self-propelled ammunition, meaning that the recoil is vastly reduced compared to a modern firearm.
@elterga6224
Ай бұрын
The Expanse mentioned, opinion accepted
@MyAramil
Ай бұрын
As well it mentioned that bleeding in space is a lot more dangerous than in gravity wells. specially internal bleeding. so even more reasons why space combat would be deadly.
@fl00fydragon
Ай бұрын
Gyrojets in the future: "Finally, the world is ready for me"
@IsmailV88
Ай бұрын
Never forget your duck tape!
@rightleft7306
Ай бұрын
Why would I tape ducks? Who goes around taping ducks?
@sovietrazor
Ай бұрын
Imagne you shoot a 50cal and just go flying in opposite direction lmaoo
@firstnamelastname9237
Ай бұрын
That is way funnier than it should be.
@MyAramil
Ай бұрын
So fire two at the same time in opposite directions.
@radiotonic9505
Ай бұрын
There's no atmosphere in space so wouldn't that mean that the pellets from a shotgun would actually be able to travel a bit faster? Remove the lead for steal shot and I'm sure it could actually defeat the loose Kevlar of a spacesuit, best way to answer this for sure tho is to have demo ranch get his hands on a retired spacesuit and see if a shotgun in general is able to get through it xD
@robertharris6092
Ай бұрын
Wouldnt the lack of air mean the pellets dont really seperate from the shell? And the ammount of kevlar in a space suit is no slouch. A micro meteor has far more energy than a buckshot pellet.
@radiotonic9505
Ай бұрын
@@robertharris6092 just gotta shoot a space suit in a vacume tube to find out xD shouldn't be to hard with some of the creations you see on here
@ownage11445
Ай бұрын
@@robertharris6092the shot would stay in the cup. Now if you had a void filled with a heavy gas at the end of the barrel you coud encourage some seperation
@KreacherServes
Ай бұрын
no it wouldn't make it go any faster. it would only mean it doesn't slow down as fast. also even with steel shot it just doesn't have the energy to get through the suit assuming its rated at even the lowest armor level. Most sources put the space suit at about a level 3a level. lvl 2 will stop a shotgun spread
@gon720
Ай бұрын
I was just watching the video and although it (buckshot) didn't penetrate the body, it still went through the armor. the question is how high the grade of the protection is and how thick they are compared to what you would find the consumer level. additionally, the helmets are glass, so I doubt they will offer just as good protection as you still need to see.
@KreacherServes
Ай бұрын
buck shot will not go through soft armor my dude. If it does its not real armor its some Chinese fake.
@sirelfinjedi
Ай бұрын
Man, I really hope you two get along and have mad respect for one another. You are two of my favorite content creators.
@ChristochatBTW
Ай бұрын
Knives man, no recoil, goes straight through Kevlar, can slice life support systems... etc etc
@KreacherServes
Ай бұрын
no range either
@thagomizer4711
Ай бұрын
Bows and arrows/crossbows would reign supreme yall.
@TRIIGGAVELLI
Ай бұрын
Ironic isn't it?
@ShartingArmpit69
Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t an arrow or bolt also plug the hole though?
@FlanTheMan231
Ай бұрын
P-90 with the full 20in barrel is spicy
@elterga6224
Ай бұрын
The preferred weapon of the U.S. Air Force in its extraterrestrial operations
@Judge_Jej
Ай бұрын
If you're arming astronauts for EVA combat their maneuvering gear should be modified to counter thrust against the recoil impulse
@theman5921
Ай бұрын
You really hit them with the "minor oversight, I win"
@Cheesepuff8
Ай бұрын
Less of an “I win” and more of a “you’re wrong”
@viperbuzzard01h84
Ай бұрын
I don't see it as "I win" but more of "while it's a good idea on paper, he probably wasn't aware of this"
@joehealy6376
Ай бұрын
The FN 5.7 was designed to give NATO rear area troops a round that could deal with Spetnaz Armour where the 9mm could not.
@spehhhsssmarineer8961
Ай бұрын
That is a complete myth. There is not a single mention of “spetnaz” armor in the competition requirements or test reports. 5.7 could not penetrate the legacy titanium armor of the time and most definitely not the ceramic armor the spetnaz actually used during 5.7 trials.
The problem is in order to make those pistol caliber rounds pierce high level armor you would have to increase velocity and thus energy and thus recoil. Though there would be no air resistance so it would maintain muzzle velocity. But also you would have to be planted or you will take half the energy (I think) of the projectile in space as it would push you.
@psal8715
Ай бұрын
Slugs would do damage.. Recoil still the bigger problem.
@CreativityNull
Ай бұрын
You two need to collab. He does more general history and has some focus on weapons, and you do a lot of weapons, some historical and a lot of conventional and theoretical. It would be awesome.
@davidponder1654
Ай бұрын
Anything small and high velocity would be good honestly
@knightmare3706
Ай бұрын
This is a crossover I didn't expect. But I also appreciate
@d3athreaper100
Ай бұрын
Space suits are only 3:16th inch thick thats not all kevlar. A kevlar vest is 0.26 in thick and its all kevlar. Spacesuits arent ment to stop conventional bullets and with the added benefit of 0 gravity the shotgun would easily penetrate a space suit especially outside the ship where there is no air resistance in my opinion it would work for spacesuit peircing
@Renorthal
Ай бұрын
Also, if people were anticipating combat in space, we would be able to more heavily armor soldiers since they'd be operating in lower gravity environments. So you'd actually need higher calibers.
@FalloutProto
23 күн бұрын
Remember that in a vacuum, small metal components tend to “friction weld” themselves together, especially detrimental to the firing action of most firearms. I imagine weapons more akin to airguns or HPA airsoft replicas catching on due to minimal moving components.
@carterturk1420
Ай бұрын
this dudes logic is “if it can’t go through armor it’s not going to do a thing to you”
@KaijuBiologist
18 күн бұрын
The original 5.7 military round was designed to penetrate helmets at like 100 rounds, so we already have a potential weapon.
@andrewbernal9957
Ай бұрын
Oh damn, two of my favorite creators in one video.
@SilkyJohnson625
Ай бұрын
That changes as the materials they use for the suits get better in order to stop micro meteors and space debris. So effectively being armored.
@seccuredabbag
Ай бұрын
I like the picture of Kirito always nice to see that pop up once and a while
@Wolfiexero
Ай бұрын
Nice transition! Liked that, props to whomever editor is.
@egas4679
Ай бұрын
I would stick to shotguns because flechettes exist, still spread, relatively good against armor, especially just soft body armor. I'd much rather get hit by buckshot, maybe survive and be hurt a little than have a bunch of small darts go through and eat up me and my suit.
@mrhyde4732
Ай бұрын
What about with flechettes? Wouldnt that puncture the kevlar pretty reliably
@cowerdnerddespacito9518
27 күн бұрын
I think a drone equipped with its own sensors, targeting system and weapons would be made to fight in space, it takes a lot of work to even get to meet someone in orbit, it would be much simpler to just use rockets and missiles for things like that
@Ser-Vex131
Ай бұрын
So don't use a shotgun, use an overclocked nail gun.
@WalletWorrier
Ай бұрын
Depending on where you are I think the recoil would actually be a huge issue. Free-floating it would send you spinning, and probably even knock you on your back on the moon. So recoilless options such as a rocket may be better.
@oatmealman1586
Ай бұрын
I think we're all forgetting the most vital piece of information; the visor. The visor is the weakest part of any space suit because it has to be made of something transparent
@JohnNathanShopper
Ай бұрын
I want these two to collab. Knowledge for days.
@dylansullivan380
Ай бұрын
It’s pretty funny how people think space suits are basically like a fragile foil balloon that’s supposed to protect you from the vacuum of space
@ownage11445
Ай бұрын
The 60’s weapon research had the right idea. I would not be surprised if the G11 made a return. The last thing you’d want is debris so casings would have to be eliminated.
@joshb5719
Ай бұрын
Glad im not the only one who thought the original video was not well thought out. Something like an MP7 or P90 might actually work pretty well in this instance
@timothymcgovern7279
Ай бұрын
Agreed, & 5.7 is would be your best "kill per KG" option in the short term... But if you're packing 5.7 the guards have 5.56 and patch kits.
@PrimitiveWretch
Ай бұрын
From personal experience I can say that a round like a 5.56 works much better in space
@officialtigerfish7633
Ай бұрын
I like how a mjaority of these turn into "just use the 5.7"
@roneloburgos8187
26 күн бұрын
The next issue would be stray shots making holes in the spaceship. That would be a potentially bad day for everyone.
@FerdinandFake
Ай бұрын
Gyrojet definitely needs a comeback
@Luckie_7
Ай бұрын
In some sci-fi settings I’ve noticed a sort of expanding membrane that can self seal the suit. I imagine the heat transfer caused by the friction of a bullet passing through the material causes it to react and expand in the effected area
@MyAramil
Ай бұрын
And its not like we do not have substances that will harden when exposed to things, such as air, or chemicals. Could create a liquid that has a low flow rate for space, but once it is exposed to a vacuum it instantly hardens up.
@noahtackett6264
Ай бұрын
The problem with the Gyrojet pistols was that they had like 4 fps muzzle velocity. However in Space that isn't as important. But honestly on space stations and stuff where one stray bullet may cause a hostage situation to go extremely sideways, I can see cutlasses making a comeback for those situations. And honestly the Gyrojet carbines fixed the Gyrojet Pistol problems
@RockyLikesPews
13 күн бұрын
I feel like low recoil is crucial in low/Zero G simply because the whole oposite/equal reaction is amplified into shotgun summersaults
@hitsurapapel1978
Ай бұрын
What if... Hear me out... crossbows! We're making the comeback of the century with this medieval masterpiece
@spidermanmyers
Ай бұрын
It also depends on if you want to keep what you are in/on intact.
@markwomack4318
Ай бұрын
5.8 is what pierces armor 5.7 is the civilian oriented one. Different dimensions in the gun and a certain powder mix in the bullets can push it a lot more than civilian 5.7.
@Jab42004
Ай бұрын
Spinning in circles regardless unless you have stabilizers
@gameralien3206
Ай бұрын
Midevil combat in space
@Jacobzab
Ай бұрын
Something shooting tiny tungsten sabots super fast could have high penetration power and low recoil. Armor penetration should be very high, but you probably wouldn’t have much topping power.
@moustacheman7130
Ай бұрын
The ideal projectile weapon for defeating space suits would be a small caliber smooth squeeze bore rifle. Rifle is not needed for stabilizing the bullet and ballistic coefficients do not matter without an atmosphere. Multiple projectiles would increase hit probability but shotguns are too slow and the target is likely going to be distant and moving.
@ninjaeddy1717
Ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered if a compensator, as well as ammunition, could be made specifically for space combat.
@snugglecity3500
Ай бұрын
This is the crossover i needed. Seriously the only 2 reasons i watch shorts.
@Swanman.
Ай бұрын
I feel like people would just make armored space suits. You could probably have some heavy armor in no gravity
@igormacielalves5187
Ай бұрын
I imagine that a roll of some special adhesive tape would be part of a space soldier's personal emergency kits to cover holes like this in the suit.
@circa-bq8tm
16 күн бұрын
My immediate thought is flechettes
@MrJonny0
Ай бұрын
5.7 also has a higher capacity which will come in handy because I doubt you can reload as easy in space.
@CowboybubPercussion
Ай бұрын
There is more, we could make a semi-automatic recoilless rifle that uses propellant in a way that blasts a recoil impulse in the back of the weapon as well as the front so the guy in the space suit does not go anywhere. It would require twice the propellent to do the job, but it would work
@enoch52
Ай бұрын
The amount of Kevlar in the suits isn't enough to stop bird shot. However I do agree with you due to the carry capacity and weight of a 5.7.
@danielwoods370
Ай бұрын
But wouldn’t the lack of air resistance and friction mean the bbs wouldn’t slow down at all amd potential be fast enough to penetrate the Kevlar
@RedvsBluechurch1
24 күн бұрын
Shotshell, loaded with a gyrojet and just enough powder to get the thing to clear the barrel, and a small ammount of explosives would do the trick.
@ghoulofmetal
Ай бұрын
Also if you are inside a space station, all that debris going random places sounds like a bad idea.
@lmao9692
Ай бұрын
Enormous sword. Covers a lot of distance, has no resistance, cuts through Kevlar easily, and the weight caused by its scale is lessened due to the lower gravity. It will also be very deeply intimidating and as a melee weapon, it has no real chance to destroy unintended structures or pieces of a space station. Combine this with some sort of heavy armor that can also be lightened by the lack of gravity and Space Knights can become real.
@BearierThanYou
Ай бұрын
A wall of shotgun pellets moving even faster than they would in gravity would definitely fuck you up
@MegaNinjaRyan
Ай бұрын
Crossover I didn’t see coming 😂love both channels 👍
@CreativityNull
Ай бұрын
I thought about flechette rounds in a shotgun instead, and *potentially* they could work on a shotgun after digging into it, but they seem finnicky at best. They likely would not have enough energy at range to penetrate the suit, despite having a better ability to from their design. This would be dependent on some unpredictable factors (like how they're currently packed when fired after being moved around). A possible solution was to include heavier flechettes, but increasing mass (and probably powder amount to compensate for the extra inertia) would add to the recoil problem you mentioned. So yeah, if everything is correct, shotguns in space is probably not practical for killing someone. Maybe some kind of thermite rounds or other self igniting material could be fired from a shotgun (more likely from a pressurized cannon of some sort)
@petersmythe6462
27 күн бұрын
I think a gently rifled shotgun with bundles of finless spikes instead of birdshot or buckshot would be good. They would gently rotate and stabilize as they slowly drift away from each other, and the long thin shape of the spikes would mean they would have excellent penetration. I would still go for the head or thorax though rather than hoping the damage to their suit is deadly.
@docternoblex
Ай бұрын
You’re leaving out all the electronics on your suit to manage your air and vitals, and the big glass visor that you would be wearing too. If that is too much to ask, then flechettes may actually work
@RonaldDump_real
Ай бұрын
“Bronk use rock, rock smash”
@bl0ccr4fter24
24 күн бұрын
I don’t know whack about guns, but you could maybe slap larger pellets into the cylinder holding them? Kinda like firing multiple smaller slugs
@natepotter1709
Ай бұрын
Someone is cultured, SAO Phantom Bullet was interesting and had lots of cool IRL guns.
@biddinge8898
Ай бұрын
Something like a recoilless shotgun would be good. Giant slugs, gyrojet projectiles, with vent ports on the side of the barrels. A double barrel like that would be so cool
@MyAramil
Ай бұрын
Furthermore, the shotgun would be a utility device as well. the people using them have portable shotgun slug workstations. with various substances.
@MarkLoganFIB
Ай бұрын
Spacesuits only have 1-2 layers of kevlar. The reason being is because at 10^-4 grams a micro-meteor has more energy than a .308 by 1500 joules. At 10^-5 it's less than 5.7. Space suits really aren't designed for much more than the smallest micro-meteors because no armor would protect you against even medium sized micro-meteors.
@hueheqjaj702
Ай бұрын
The recoil from any gun would make you fly away forever
@MyAramil
Ай бұрын
Unless you had a space suit or pack that would counteract those forces using small but potent thrusters (which could also be used for manuvering, and can be set to stabilizing you in general)
@HEXAN-tv9eu
Ай бұрын
The FN5.7 was my first choice when I saw his video, tiny and focuses on armor penetration and bullet velocity
@conorzurawski8657
Ай бұрын
I'm so here for awesome debates like this
@Arbidarb
14 күн бұрын
Melee makes way more sense. Less damage to critical systems with missed shots. No fine powders in the air to screw up the critical systems either. Able to puncture soft armor like kevlar easily enough. Great in close quarter spaces like a spaceship. Once you're outside away from damaging critical ship/base systems give me a big powerful rifle. I want to end the threat quickly at a distance instead of waiting for the environment to take them out eventually.
@zeldasritter7826
Ай бұрын
But in space you could wear really heavy and thick metal armour because the weight wouldnt affect you like it would on earth
@ericswenson7504
Ай бұрын
Small crossbow and short swords i would think are the best.
@ryanmeakins2993
Ай бұрын
This is a crossover i didnt have on my bingo card lol
@jaybyday2381
Ай бұрын
There's no air resistance in space, the projectile from a firearm would accelerate without anything to slow it down, therefore it would hit with a lot more momentum. In that context, a shotgun could be able to pierce kevlar.
@teddy3657
Ай бұрын
Just give em a push and theyll float away. The ultimate space weapon is one of those extendo boxing gloves
@dragonseatcheese8727
Ай бұрын
Another thing, the range. Shotguns are fairly effective against soft targets at 50 meters. But in space, where you would realistically be spending most of your time crossing huge amounts of mostly barren land, the spread inherent of a shotgun would make them laughably ineffective. And I know some dude is gonna say that buckshot can still get through it with only one or two impacting pellets, but to that I say two things. First off, one pellet is substantially less powerful than a 9mm in the majority of shotguns. Secondly, space suits are not designed for combat currently. If it was a concern, a shotgun would be useless because they would just up armor them.
@bradleyneill5806
Ай бұрын
There wouldn’t be enough Kevlar to stop the pellets
@blacksabbath5300
Ай бұрын
There easily could be
@Cheesepuff8
Ай бұрын
Do u definitely know more about modern space suits than this guy?
@loganwalker8537
Ай бұрын
Except a 2a vest has less kevlar and stop buck shot and birdshot The space suit has more kevlar Also A tiny metor has more kenetic energy than a buckshot pellet
@gee3591
Ай бұрын
I’m sure if we needed weapons in space then space suits would be armored to a degree
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