Got any experience with throttle curves or plan to try them out? Let us know how you (will) use them and what they (will) do for you!
@serval_fpv
4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for idle up instructions through logical switches.. so snooping around.. but found you're crossfire vid so will be coming bk to that next ! Cheers dude...
@ChrisParayno
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, placed them in a switch between full and a 25 percent reduction. It's helped immensely!
@ChrisParayno
3 жыл бұрын
@@serval_fpv JB made a video using a Taranis system. It's pretty straight forward if you too are using an frsky controller.
@alefpvc.r.4540
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this comprehensive video and explain this subject so well. I'm new in the fpv scene and this helped me understand alot.
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing Alejandro!👍I appreciate you making the time to comment my friend 🙏 Journey to Better 💪
@angrypepper3325
3 жыл бұрын
Just found out you are also a U.S. Air Force vet, I salute you sir, I’m a disabled Air Force myself, 1982-1986. Crew chief on the F-5E Tiger and the FB-111D Ardvark stationed at RAF Alconbury U.K. and Cannon AFB Clovis N.M. Now I’m trying to become an FPV pilot and crew chief.
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service Angry Pepper! I remember the FB111s! Did a Red Flag Exercise at Nellis AFB with them awhile back
@billmcdonald4335
Жыл бұрын
I fly exclusively in Angle mode. I have my throttle inflected at the hover point, use maximum expo in both BetaFlight _and_ OpenTX, and have my throttle center at 0.95 - yup, 0.95. I limited my motor output to 47%. With this setup, I get the maximum movement around my inflection point, with no power spiking causing the craft to shoot to the Moon. Also, limiting the motor output tames the quad's reaction when bumping things and running along walls.
@micsherwood4930
2 жыл бұрын
This is my goto video for getting my quads handling nice from arming into a hover check, before going anywhere. good job explaining this feature.
@angrypepper3325
3 жыл бұрын
Never mind TMac, the checklist came through, it just took a long while. Thanks I really appreciate your lessons, as a noob these tutorials are a huge help, and you explain them in a way that’s easy to understand.
@DaSkatesta
9 ай бұрын
This was very very veryyyyy helpful thank you so much!
@clintkelly8894
3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, I needed to know how to reduce the stick travel of hover point on a whoop so that it will feel similiar to my 5" freestyle throttle rates.
@tulzii1088
2 жыл бұрын
This so helpful video! Thank so. I will custom it.
@mcmenacefpv6353
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this , I have been trying to figure this out on my Cinewhoop
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Hey McMenaceFPV, you're quite welcome! Let me know how it works on your Cinewhoop for you! Take care my friend!
@glennwardle9905
Жыл бұрын
very well explained tmac good job!
@dariuszsadlo2699
Жыл бұрын
nicely explained. great video
@TugaFlyers
4 жыл бұрын
This was the easiest explanation about throttle curve and how to setup. Thanks
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing Tuga Flyers👍 Happy to help and thanks for making the time to comment 🙏
@Musiquence
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this in great detail and also showing it, and not just telling the theory. Very good video!
@AerialJohnny
3 жыл бұрын
Can't explain how relieved I am to have seen this video. Great info!
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aerial Johnny! Fly fearlessly my friend 💪😁
@AerialJohnny
3 жыл бұрын
@@TMacFPV Before watching this video, I had been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why my quad would be bouncing up and down despite trying to control the throttle. This has really helped me understand that a lot better so thanks again!
@shouglifefpv3880
5 жыл бұрын
Great video that all fpv pilots need to see if they don't know. Mine is .18 expo with just a little curve. I don't recommend a lot of curve and expo because you can go from a little throttle to no change to an extreme change. That causes some problems for me. But completely linear isn't pleasant either- lol! Without the knowledge you supply in your video, we might not be able to find our sweet spot! 😉 Thank you for sharing Tmac!
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason! Much appreciated👊Thanks also for sharing your expo setting with others. Obviously it works extremely well for you based on your silky smooth flight videos! I completely agree with you about "not a lot of curve" to avoid sudden, aggressive throttle jumps--too SCARY!😨
@giorgioarmano6704
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend.
@DKFPV
5 жыл бұрын
I use a little bit of expo on my throttle and having great control. Also different motors have different curve. For example blackbird, Johnny and f60iii motors are very smooth and give you a lot of precision on low throttle while brotherhobby and t-motor pro line are very touchy and harder to manage in freestyle.
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
Hey DK! Great info, thanks! How much expo do you use? Do it through Betaflight or transmitter? I also found out through monitoring channel outputs for this video, the fact I had the "ratchet tensioner" on for my throttle stick was making my channel outputs "jump" in increments of a few at a time rather than smoothly. I have since loosened this on the stick. Better outouts now!
@DKFPV
5 жыл бұрын
@@TMacFPV I use very low friction on throttle and no rachet. I set the curve on bf 22 expo and 25 middle
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
@@DKFPV Thanks DK! Great stuff friend👍
@Rip1Outdoors
3 жыл бұрын
you are the man sir
@JiggityWombat
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Great video! Totally learned something and actually understand these settings now. You're great at explaining for noobs!! Appreciate the vid! :)
@tubeisace
3 жыл бұрын
This was extremely useful. I have recently bought a Mobula 6 which is very twitchy. (Keep hitting the ceiling). Will be trying this out in the next couple of days. Thanks.
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Great! You'll get it.💪 Takes time, practice, & patience. Enjoy the journey🤩
@iamnima
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir.
@Lcanino
4 жыл бұрын
These videos are fantastic! I’m learning a ton from you! I am only on a sim right now with a jumper t16 pro. But this all make a difference, I’ve been learning to fly with rates 900+ which felt ridiculous but I got the hang of it around 25 hours. Your other video has helped my learning curve and this tuning is so helpful.
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you🙏
@yvesploufplouf9732
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, is a good thing !!
@macdsky2614
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for the help i so desperately need. around 17:30 made me laugh
@suatsekil
2 жыл бұрын
very helpful thanks
@Sub250gFPV
5 жыл бұрын
This is your best video yet TMac, I learnt a lot tonight about throttle control, i just need some good weather now to try it out 😒.
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! I learned a lot myself making it too. Hope the weather clears for you real soon. Let me know how it goes when you try it out friend!👍
@ChrisParayno
3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Especially moving to a next level in power. Good bye porpoising....or at least that's the hope.
@pawx_fpv
2 жыл бұрын
this is great if you have whoops that you run in different battery voltage and have different mid points. for instance you can make a model for 3s and 4s setups and their respective curve. thanks for this
@gregorydahl
Жыл бұрын
This might make indoor whoop flying less wall floor ceiling doorway refrigerator shelf bouncy .
@trevorphilips2240
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing Trevor! 👍😀
@serval_fpv
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative not used expo yet just sn00ping around... subbed for more !
@AR-wj2qe
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the video was extremely clear. As a beginner, it helps me a lot ! I was feeling so unconfortable with my quad compare to Liftoff, just because of the throttle which was in a too low position when hooving. So thanks a lot for your help, now, I stay tuned ;)
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome A R! Patience and practice pays off. You'll get it my friend! Just takes some time. Its not as easy or fast to learn as i initially thought either! Just let me know if I can help👍
@AR-wj2qe
4 жыл бұрын
@@TMacFPV Thanks for these words that recomforts me :) . As you just said, I was not expecting a such not easy and not fast learning phase. I'm always amazed, to be in south of France, you somwhere in the US (according to your fantastic accent) taking time to record yout videos and me here and enjoying your advices in the nature near to the sea. Sharing between human is just one of the most wonderful thing, whatever the subject. It was the philosophical though of a sundazy morning. Cheers
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
@@AR-wj2qe I completely agree with your thoughts! Yes, I'm in the U.S. It sounds to me like you live in beautiful surroundings! I very much enjoy being near the ocean when I'm able (not so much these days). I, myself, grew up on an island🙂Enjoy!
@dcsmith5839
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting,good info.I'm new to this and throttle control is sketchy at best. New sub.
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Hey DC smith! Welcome to FPV! Here's another one on how you can "dial in" your max throttle to suit your needs and level if experience kzitem.info/news/bejne/y6uA1ICGnHSWq44 Also, make sure to check out the FPV Beginner Tips video at tmacfpv.com/fpv-free-resources/ Stay in touch and always, "Journey to Better!"👍
@playharder1435
2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. My crashes and tree climbs are getting expen$ive.
@stuartmacdonald6754
4 жыл бұрын
thanks this is a really useful video....im going to try it on my t16
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Happy you found it useful Stuart! If you haven't already done so, you may like my latest video with another way to do throttle control here kzitem.info/news/bejne/y6uA1ICGnHSWq44
@Dan-he3kl
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, easy to understand !! Question: If I want a soft landing, what would the configuration be?
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
"Soft landing" just takes a lot of practice. I have my arm/disarm on a switch. To land, I normally hover as close to the ground as possible and disarm. The quad "drops" about a foot to "land". That's my "soft landing" landing 😁I don't normally land on concrete
@Dan-he3kl
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks : )
@manalive33
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome manalive33, happy to help 👍I appreciate you making the time to comment 🙏
@coolhanddruid
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty new to this stuff, but have built a couple quads now, that ended up high authority. Low throttle control is/was my biggest issue. At first I had some heavy pitch props which were making the problem even worse. Ive since been going to very shallow props, and pinching the sticks instead. For finer control. Came across your video while thinking there has to be some other ways to resolve the problem, and or further increase control. Already I have been playing with throttle expo, and mid. But now I'm kind of having issues that things just dont seem as peppy when I want, with the shallow props. There is so much sweep in the throttle that its hard to hold for precise control, and cross the full range without wanting to shift my hands on the remote. I wish I had the options that you do, I'm using the DJI remote, and just making changes in Betaflight. Would be nice to be able to set up a custom curve like you did.
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried limiting throttle in Betaflight? It's one of the 3 tips I mention in this video kzitem.info/news/bejne/u2qE4ISjm2Wkgag With the latest BF Configurator you may need to do it with the CLI, but it can still be done
@verdi6092
4 жыл бұрын
Hi tmac, which preferable? Setting it up in betaflight or in the transmitter?
@NathansHVAC
3 жыл бұрын
If you set it up in betaflight you dont have to manage different quads in your transmitter.
@brettalexander.studio
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Thank you!
@hadefbrahim
Жыл бұрын
Best
@VideoAve
5 ай бұрын
Good tutorial but there’s one mistake. The hover value on the controller is around -45 and not 45! A value of 45 on the controller would translate to a 0.75 in BF!
@mrsaraf3459
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, this can be used to achieve something close enough to altitude hold 😯
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Saraf! Better throttle control with stick around a specified throttle % output. You can decide how much you want stick to move!
@djwilson48625
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, on my Xlite, I move 1 little notch, and i drop like a stone. Gonna try some of this.. Thanks
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Should help DJ! Did for me. I'm actually able to land softly now instead of dropping to the ground from 3 feet up
@RidzuanGom72
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks tmac it help me alot.
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Happy to help & thank you for making the time to comment
@vincents3334
5 жыл бұрын
Once again a very informative video. Thank you for taking the time TMac.
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Vincent. Hope you get the opportunity to try it out sometime. Been flyin' much?
@vincents3334
5 жыл бұрын
TMac earlier in the week. Then I had to wait for parts. 😢
@TMacFPV
5 жыл бұрын
@@vincents3334 I understand completely. Dropped my transmitter down the stairs at beginning of the week. 🙄 Failed durability test. Repair & replace!
@neilfpv
3 жыл бұрын
I got confused. You wrote 45-50 on the video but when you switched to your office, you said 25%. Oh I see, it's throttle position on osd. I don't know if I can see that in DJI fpv goggles.
@smakersify
4 жыл бұрын
Subbed. thank you.
@angrydrones3437
4 жыл бұрын
very interesting i just subbed, im new to fpv
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to FPV Angrdrones! You're gonna have a blast. Maybe take a look at my Learn FPV playlist and/or tmacfpv.com/ . Let me know if you have questions 👍email: tmac@tmacfpv.com
@HaveFaithInGod
3 жыл бұрын
Will this work better than percent scaling of the throttle? My Mobula 6 HD modded to a 75mm frame bobs up and down and I have a hard time keeping level in indoor flight. I changed the throttle to 85% weight in Open Tx with the complementary -15% offset. It did improve but not smooth enough. I didn't want to do it in BetaFlight because it's so much easier for me to have this set up as a separate model in Open TX and still keep the original intact in case I mess up. I was confused when you set up in curve menu at curve 6 instead of "3" which is the channel position of the throttle. Then when you went next to the mixer graph I didn't see why it was automatically there. Guess I need to rewatch. But thanks for this and it may turn out to be what I needed as I get into it.
@rubenvaneupen7327
2 жыл бұрын
Does the throttle value in the osd show the value of the radio stick input (1000-2000 mapped onto 0-100), or the value after the stick input passed the throttle curve in betaflight (with expo and throttle max applied)?
@suatsekil
2 жыл бұрын
What will happen if I make both remote controller and beta flight together ☺️ realy I wonder this?
@PimpinPissant
2 жыл бұрын
did you mean to say "45" @ 3:48? Because thats what was on the channel when you were hovering, not 25. Or did you indeed mean 25? and if so, where did you get that number from?
@TMacFPV
2 жыл бұрын
I meant 25. The number 25 was displayed in the middle of the OSD screen shown in the lower left corner of the video. That is the throttle position % shown on the OSD. The number 45 is the "channel value" shown on the transmitter. Remember, I'm showing 2 different ways (Betaflight and then OpenTX) to basically accomplish the same thing. So, I use the number 25 for one way and 45 for the other method. I mention this at 2:25 in the video
@lyfix.468
2 жыл бұрын
I have a big Problem my throttle is changed with my pitch on my controller How do i change That i use a betafpv lite 2 se
@TMacFPV
2 жыл бұрын
If your throttle is controlled with your right stick moving up and down and your yaw by moving your right stick left and right, it sounds like you have a Mode 1 transmitter. This type is used mainly in EU. If you want Mode 2 (throttle on left stick), I am not sure how to accomplish that in this transmitter. You may need to open it up and physically change the position of the gimbals and have them plugged into the same cables they are currently using. Or, research "changing Mode 1 to Mode 2 on BetaFPV Lite 2 SE"
@lyfix.468
2 жыл бұрын
@@TMacFPV ok thank you very much
@kyakfsh
3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried using the betaflight throttle curves with version 4.2? I'm using the blackbox to compare RCcommands to RCrates. Reviewing those logs, expo on pitch, roll, and yaw are working properly. Scaled throttle limiting also works properly. But, throttle expo and midpoint offset are not working. No matter what I set for those values, the throttle rates track the stick inputs exactly. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
I have not used Betaflight 4.2 for any of my throttle curves. I use OpenTX to setup throttle curves in my transmitter as explained in the video. I do not believe you can change the position of an inflection point (such as your throttle position at hover) within Betaflight (see 4:00 - 4:30 of this video), so I just find it easier to use OpenTX for throttle curves
@joeg946
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tmac. What is results when you fly and start pitch forward. Is there will be problem control altitude?
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! No problem at all with enough practice!😀When you pitch forward you will need to increase your throttle to maintain the same altitude you had prior to pitching forward. If you do not do this, you will lose altitude. This is explained in this short video👍: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sqWqyIGHj3qEh6g
@HakanAras
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your great explain. Sub +1
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing Hakan!👍
@verdi6092
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tmac, which one do you prefer? Setting it in betaflight or in tje transmitter itself?
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
I personally like to use the transmitter to set up throttle curves. I can make them as detailed as I want (more pictures ints or less), etc. and turn them off if I choose to do so, without connecting to Betaflight
@amen_ra6926
3 жыл бұрын
Ok did I miss something? He went from 45 on the radio to 25 in BF. Is the explanation between the relationship of these two numbers in one of the other videos? Why is there a difference?
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
This is explained beginning at the 2:41 time mark of this video. OpenTX and Betaflight operate on different "scales.' the OpenTX channel "numbers" go from -100 to 100 whereas the Betaflight throttle position goes from 0 % - 100%.both of the4se values are displayed in the text on the video as I am doing the hover flight and the throttle position of "25%" is displayed on the OSD screen of my goggles in the video as I'm doing the flight as well
@MarkJaquith
2 жыл бұрын
The formula for this is: ({OpenTX value} +100 ) / 2. Be sure to include the negative sign if your hover point is negative. So for this video, (-45 + 100) / 2 = 27.5, which he rounded to 25.
@jlauby7777
3 жыл бұрын
Hello: do you half to set this in each mode? Ty J
@TMacFPV
3 жыл бұрын
No you do not
@chrisburque4274
Жыл бұрын
Betaflight beginner
@MindRiderFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Now, how do you do that in the DJI controller?
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Fairly certain DJI doesn't run OpenTX firmware on their transmitter, right?!😔If you're running a Betaflight Flight Controller, you can still to do throttle curves in Betaflight (I think I mention that in the video) and also throttle limits (scaling is what you want). kzitem.info/news/bejne/u2qE4ISjm2Wkgag
@MindRiderFPV
4 жыл бұрын
TMac Thanks TM, did that. DC3 is close to perfect now.
@TMacFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding MindRider! Way to go! Good work! Fly fearlessly friend!🤩
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