11:24 Ronny Cox, the actor that played Bogomil is still very much alive, he'll be 86 years old in 2 weeks ;) You are right though it was sorely disappointing that there wasn't a nod to the character, a simple photograph would suffice like they did in Beverly Hills Cop III :) The Serge character memorably played by Bronson Pinchot was off in Axel F, his presence felt too contrived & underwhelming this time around :(
@alfredooliva5175
Ай бұрын
No s*** get your God damn facts straight
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
That's good to hear I really thought he'd passed away. I think I was confusing him with the guy from Robocop who did pass as they were both in that movie
@oniiz8685
Ай бұрын
@@talkbackmovies Yes, you're talking about the late great Miguel Ferrer, another great character actor who always played a great villain, I believe your confusion was that actor Paul Reiser, the "Jeffrey" character who was Eddie Murphy's former partner that now plays his boss erroneously reported that actor Ronny Cox had passed away at some point :(
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
There is a photograph, the same fishing photo we see in I think part 2. But not sure it’s actually Cox in the photo as they would have to pay for his likeness.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
You are 100% right my friend. This movie was just nostalgia porn. A pale imitation of previous glories.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
it was
@rupertbollywood1190
20 күн бұрын
It was nostalgia porn but we needed it (well, some of us).
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
20 күн бұрын
@@rupertbollywood1190 I'd rather watch the original 3 movies for nostalgia and some porn for porn.
@macklee6837
Ай бұрын
I agree. I'm not sure why it was even made. Some cool bits, but much of it felt forced.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
it was
@Wh4L205
Ай бұрын
Eddie looks good bc he one of Hollywood celebrities that doesn’t use drugs, and he said he can count on one hand how many times he’s drink
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
he looks amazing even if you said he was 50
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
The daughter character in this was one of the many problems of this movie. This plot was done already in die hard 4 and it was just as poorly done in that as it is here. Family drama bull shit doesnt belong in these movies. These movies arent soap operas. Plus her character was such a whiny poor me poor me my daddy wasnt around type. She was behaving like a spoilt child. Her character wasnt likeable in the least, she had no charisma, and she wasnt at all interesting enough to be a main character in a BHC movie who teams up with Axel Foley.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
she was total trash
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
She was my main gripe with the movie. Boring family drama has no place in BHC. Just dragged the movie down and killed the laughs. Axel should have just told her to get lost.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
@@michaelmyers3709 exactly it dragged the movie into another genre. BHC is an action thriller comedy. Not an action thriller family drama. The tone was all over the place. This kind of stuff doesn't fit the BHC movies. I get that Eddie probably wanted to inject some depth into it as he's alot older and wouldn't be the same man he was 30 years ago but show his maturity in other ways. The estranged daughter who hates her father but comes to love him by the end has been done so many times before and it's so predictable at this point, but it just doesn't fit the tone of these movies. If they had to go the estranged daughter route then it would have made more sense for the daughter to have been kidnapped instead of rosewood, so that Axel can reteam with rosewood to find her. She's off camera for most of the movie while rosewood is back where he should be.
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
The daughter and Rosewood could have pretty easily been swapped. The daughter going missing and Axel spending time with Rosewood instead would have boosted this movie ten-fold. Thought it was funny when characters were insisting she is just like her father, when Axel is a bundle of fun and she’s basically a humourless, moody buzzkill.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
Youre right that Serge was funnier in the first movie when he wasn't over the top. But he was over the top in the 3rd movie, and hes over the top again in the 4th. He went from a low key funny character to a caricature.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
yes he was dissapointing in this film
@rupertbollywood1190
20 күн бұрын
3 wasn't appreciated because it tried to make a seriously deep point about society while at the same time being just a bad comedic movie. Everyone missed the deep point about "behind the curtains", the befuddled old Disney fried chicken colonel as a mere anchorman or playing a role just like a guy in a Mickey Mouse costume, treated like a serious businessman but who didn't understand what was going on, etc. It was about American society.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
I agree with you it's true. Axel F was awful. I've watched it twice now just to make sure I'm not tripping but no it's awful. Poor dialogue, poor editing, poor action scenes, poor derivative music score, boring characters, weak story, over the top characters, not funny when it's trying to be, no sense of danger or violence, it lacks edge, it's all very dumbed down, the list is endless regarding how bad this movie is and I think the ppl who are praising it have a low bar in terms of quality. I re watched all 3 BHC movies before this and they all wipe the floor with this new one. 3 isn't great granted but it's marginally better than 4. Neither holds a candle to 1 or 2.
@MASTERXMYLES
Ай бұрын
Finally someone with the same opinion , it was way too jokey A nostalgia trip movie that didn’t take itself serious Characters were wasted Eddie was holding back his jokes and laugh Very strange way to try and bring back the movie Let’s hope the 5th movie which is apparently getting the scrips together is more of a serious film
@HeartbreakandMotordrive
Ай бұрын
150 million and you couldn't see where a dime was spent. They reused the location from the Christmas movie for the impound. Dude from 3rd Rock from the sun is mis cast as is the daughter. She's flat as a board. Guzman was left to do his own thing. And it didn't work. Bro, you broke it down. When Kevin Bacon ( the main baddie ) is standing there holding a mojito (with a fucking straw!) you know he ain't no real threat. Awful. Good review.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
@@HeartbreakandMotordrive well said. Kevin Bacons performance was campy and over the top. His "I control the narrative" speech at the end had me cringing. It was a performance fit for a Xmas pantomime. I'm usually a fan of Kevin Bacons work but he got it wrong here. Wasn't helped by a woeful script. Awful movie.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
it was insane how wasted he was
@EddieHenderson92
Ай бұрын
I agree, I didn't hate Axel F but it's so average and forgettable. BHC 3 is a little better and has a pretty damn good villain.
@damonappel
Ай бұрын
'Like the modern version of straight-to-video Betamax' ...is probably the coldest takedown of this movie anyone could do. 😅. -- I agree with you on all of this (although I have to rewatch III, because I remember that being really bad). In Axel F, we have the old music played again on top of lame-by-comparison scenes, bland daughter-who-doesn't-act-like-a-Foley, reasonably good-looking returning stars (especially Eddie) who are underutilized, no stakes, an obvious and unthreatening villain whose motivation is incomprehensible, low laughter, and many segments of the movie that felt like the scenes needed 5 more takes to get the timing right. It's not as bad a latequel as Indiana Jones. Axel is still Axel, for the most part, and not some somber washed-up bitter old man, but it's all a bit "meh".
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
it really is like straight to video from when I was young. Those movies you got in the basket by the door at blockbuster
@JimiSTARR
Ай бұрын
Great review, everything said was right! Please post more reviews
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
Man I'm an old warrior. Talkback started it all many moons ago
@rupertbollywood1190
20 күн бұрын
The alphabet crimes in 2 were just appallingly dumb. Especially the light bulb moment when they "solved" that incredibly hard code lol. BUT the movie was STYLISH. It makes all the difference - guy behind the camera, guy in the production room, etc. Vanishing art.
@philiproutledge9245
Ай бұрын
You're entitled to your opinion of course but 4, i.e. Axel F is way better than 3. The main problem 3 had was the Taggart replacement didn't gel well and the Big Wheel scene, no. 1 and 2 are still my favourites and 4 has that feel of both combined, leaning towards 2. It's been 30 years since the last one so there are obviously going to be changes with characters, etc. The main thing I wasn't impressed on in 4 was Kevin Bacon. I was expecting more but not great. Hard to beat the villain in the second one. I'd still recommend 4.
@ajedi0770
Ай бұрын
No it's not 4 sucks
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
I disagree 4 was terrible to me
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
it was incredibly average
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
I watched cop 2 twice recently and youre right it just looks sounds and feels so so much better. The reason. Better talent than the ppl coming through making movies now.
@ramboraph4life
Ай бұрын
Lost me in the first 5 seconds. I'm sorry...but Beverly Hills Cop 3...a film that has bad guys singing & dancing in the first 5 minutes to The Supremes, a gun that sings out Jerry Lewis music and Axel Foley running around with an elephant Mascot suit (and an Axel that never uses his wit or humor at all throughout because Eddie wanted to be Wesley Snipes and not Axel Foley)...is NOT better than Part 4. I get it, it's your opinion. Disagree 100%. You say 'lack of chemistry'...there was more chemistry than this than in part 3. What chemistry was in part 3? Sense of danger? Axel ran around an amusement park meeting folks like George Lucas. C'mon now. Again, i get that it's your opinion. But people are REACHING with this one. Beverly Hills Cop 4 was a fun romp and an entertaining sequel.
@MASTERXMYLES
Ай бұрын
I agree with you , I would rather watch 3 than watch 4 again 3 still has the nostalgia going for it , at least rosewood is in it for a good portion of the film Axel feels and acts like himself , good action , yeah wonder world wasn’t great and a bit cheesy But the movie was still decent not as good as the 1st two but it still holds up The 4th film is my least favourite, it wasn’t bad or awful , it was just so so weak
@Reeltalkwithspear
Ай бұрын
Huh we didn’t watch the same movie. I’m glad you gave part 2 praise because I feel was talking how it wasn’t as good as the first one.
@AvoidTIMtation
Ай бұрын
I'm a big Beverly Hills Cop fan. You make some good points and the movie was far from perfect, but saying this movie is worse than Part 3 is where you lose me. There was literally only one scene in Cop 3 where Eddie made even a half assed attempt to be Axel Foley and that was at the Award ceremony. There was also nothing in Cop 4 that approaches the awfulness of the carnival ride scene with the trapped kids. Anytime there is a sequel to a movie that's 30 or 40 years old, there is going to be a lot of nostalgia involved. I also watched the Beverly Hills Cop TV pilot awhile back and we also disagree on Brandon T Jackson. You could clearly understand why it was not picked up because other than the name, it was a very generic cop show.
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
The theme park ride rescue was my favourite part of 3. And even though it was downplayed I still him more as Axel in 3 than 4.
@carlosmelendez8317
Ай бұрын
I agree. I laugh much more when I watch BHC3. Axel F wasn't bad but wasn't good either.
@jasonvoorhees-wr7iq
Ай бұрын
I can see your point of not liking Axel F. It was basically just a comfort food movie. Where you just can sit back and say I like these people. There was really no movie here. I also think 48hrs is the best action/comedy movie
@gk_knight
Ай бұрын
Agree with everything you said 200%. Such a poor movie. I had low expectations after Coming 2 America (had to turn that one off after 30 minutes). At certain points the actors were just talking and I had no idea what they were saying as I didn't care about the plot whatsoever. They should've made the daughter the hostage, and Rosewood working with Axel to rescue her instead of Rosewood being the hostage. The final scene in the car with Taggart and Rosewood shows you how it could've been. Serge was totally wasted, like a lightweight Franck from "Father of the Bride". And couldn't Eddie bring back the Axel Foley laugh? I know he doesn't like it anymore but it is integral to the Axel character. In BHC2 they put Bogomil's daughter in the plot but in the background, that's where Axel's daughter belonged in this one. I had the same feeling the last Indiana Jones movie, just total boredom and disappointment. That one made me appreciate Crystal Skull, and this BHC movie makes me appreciate BHC3! I am the biggest fan of parts 1 and 2, and I guess I'll just continue to re-watch those.
@rupertbollywood1190
20 күн бұрын
Some things are just gone - forever. Roots rock reggae of the 1970s and early 1980s - you can get the best musicians in the world, the best production engineers, etc. plus the original (old) 1970s singers. But what you make just won't be as good even if every single element from the old days was brought back. The same applies to the entire vibe of the 1980s. It's just gone. I think Eddie wanted to make this movie but watched with high expectations from 1 and 2, it would always disappoint. I had low expectations and it wasn't too bad.
@kpanilaryea28
Ай бұрын
It had the same feel as the original 2 movies. It was still good.
@austinbratton9973
Ай бұрын
It was good you trippin
@Wh4L205
Ай бұрын
🧢 it is not worse than 3. 3 was a Disney movie
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
4 was a Netflix movie
@Wh4L205
Ай бұрын
@@michaelmyers3709 what’s your point? You do know that it’s a lot of films go straight to streaming services since 2020 right? Or have you just woken up from then?
@dariuschisholm7317
Ай бұрын
Dont disrespect wonder world
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
Wow, Netflix is a thing. Who knew.
@BECKTON99
Ай бұрын
Part 3 even tho it's not great at least they were trying and there's some energy. This new one Eddie was sleepwalking.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
exactly though I wouldn't say eddie was sleepwalking through this
@thechosenones4375
Ай бұрын
Good discussion on the franchise. Most other reviews are very surface level.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
its how we used to do it on Talkback
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
oh wow I put this up and it had 5 views and I thought I was the only one that thought this
@EubyGamingRES
Ай бұрын
I enjoyed axel f. Some great parts where eddie feels just like foley again. The apartment scene was classic foley, just fooling those thugs lol. A lot of 3 feels too childish, but the ending shootout brings back some classic beverly hills cop humor! I’d say they both are the same rank for me, both have some fun humor, but bogged down by unneeded fluff. I would advise you to check out the beverly hills cop pilot tv episode. I only saw it yesterday, but was surprised how much i enjoyed it. Eddie murphy is firing on all cylinders with that pilot, reminded me of the classic beverly hills cop. He has a son in that, instead of a daughter, and he’s a cop too, and their chemistry together, especially when they pretend to be other people to blag someone, is spot on lol. Makes me wish we actually got a full show of that!
@EubyGamingRES
Ай бұрын
Maybe i should have watched your full video before commenting! 😂 glad you enjoyed the pilot too! Really wish that show got a full order
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
I really struggled through this film and I consider BH1 to be an absolute classic
@lankastai
Ай бұрын
I will agree to disagree with you. Beverly Hills Cop 3 was garbage. There is a reason why part of the public including myself hates that movie. Beverly Hills Cop 4 was fun and hilarious. That said, you are entitled to your opinion.
@antwonsmith8931
Ай бұрын
I tried watching it and I just gave up so I feel a lot better watching the first one.
@michaelwiggan7437
Ай бұрын
I loved it Big Time!! Funny!! Real Funny!! .. Best Eddie Murphy movie since Coming To America 2 .. The last 2 Eddie Murphy movies sucked big time .. The Christmas movie was real bad ... had to turn it off!! I like Beverly Hill Cop III (Watch it many times)n..
@JB0523
Ай бұрын
It was better then 3 but not better then 1 + 2
@MaxwellKinghorror
Ай бұрын
I disagree. 🤣 4 is miles better than 3. 🙌🏻
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
3 is miles better than 4 👍
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
Agreed. Did enjoy it for at least trying to be nostalgic with the original music without forcing the throwbacks down the audience’s throat, but it didn’t really gel with a 2024 movie. It wasn’t that funny, had the usual pointless CGI and I couldn’t stand the daughter. Reminded me a lot of the Indy 5 girl constantly berated our hero and putting him down. Every time she’s in it, the film just went to sleep. And the film was way too long.
@nabilmoussa5122
Ай бұрын
This guy just what's views the movie is very satisfying!!!
@NormanHEILIGIII
Ай бұрын
I ENJOYED BEVERLY HILLS COP AXEL F IT HAD ALLOT OF ACTION AND IT WAS NOSTALGIC BUT THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT THE MOVIE WAS IT HAD NO FIST FIGHT'S AND AXEL DIDN'T RUN BECAUSE HE WAS TO OLD BUT THEY COULD OF HAD HIM RUN AND HAVE A RUNNING DOUBLE. TOM CRUISE IS A YEAR YOUNGER AND HE STILL MOVE'S REAL WELL. OTHER THAN THAT THE MOVIE WAS STILL GOOD AND THEY BROUGHT BACK AXEL'S OLD CHEVY.
@davidebert8034
Ай бұрын
It is NOT worse than 3. However, it’s not as good as 2. Of course, 1 is the best.
@MotownBatman
Ай бұрын
Speakin' the Truth! Greatly Appreciate it. I havent seen it yet, I Grew up on this Trilogy Al of the Previews Look like Awful ReHashed Crap Who wants to watch Rush Hour 2... or 3 LOL
@kev3d
Ай бұрын
I feel like most franchises really need to stop after 3 (like Lord of the Rings) or two (Beverly Hills Cop, Lethal Weapon, Terminator) or one (Coming To America, The Matrix, The Ring) etc.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
they had to redeem BH III but this wasn't how to do it
@PeteSherriff
Ай бұрын
No no no behave yourself man 🤦🏾♂️
@excaliber8713
Ай бұрын
Is this why its Numer 1 on Netflix ?
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
What has that got to do with quality? At one point Sharknado was one of the most popular movies on Netflix
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
Doesn’t mean much. Especially by Netflix standards.
@proscott33
Ай бұрын
u know what, i think this is a spicy take, but i kinda agree!
@thetanjga
Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. It's one of the worst movies I ever watched. I don't get the mild criticism by the general public. Is it nostaligia or people got so dull by the trash moves we are bombarded with....
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
maybe not one of the worst but it was really bad
@thetanjga
Ай бұрын
@@talkbackmovies Agree, but if you put expectations into the equation, it gets even worse. It's a shame, because it could've been much better if they put a bit more passion into it.
@mykal.7424
Ай бұрын
Dude is tripping. Anyone can make a KZitem channel and create takes like this to get eyes on the channel... Good tactic but he's 100% wrong about this
@acs79
Ай бұрын
I’ve watched 3 five times or so. Doubt I’ll watch 4 twice.
@shawnisgracious
Ай бұрын
Yes I wish the Brandon T Jackson show was done
@nabsyb2610
Ай бұрын
Then I need to watch all the movies, if this is the worst. I've watch this 3 times already and its better than any action comedy I've seen so far.
@yournotmytwin7982
Ай бұрын
4 was forgettable but better than 3
@moviebuffer93
Ай бұрын
I enjoyed it. But to each their own.
@David-hc4xh
Ай бұрын
Great analysis, my thoughts exactly 👍
@ajedi0770
Ай бұрын
I agree 💯 percent
@alfredooliva5175
Ай бұрын
It takes him 6 minutes to get to the point
@W33ND3X_W1LCOX
Ай бұрын
agreed. It was not good.
@PNTtastetest
Ай бұрын
It was good
@jgchalmers
Ай бұрын
You're crazy. The new one is great
@darrellallen4409
Ай бұрын
I liked it
@conpilli3272
Ай бұрын
Lmao stay retired, Beverly Hills Axel F was awesome
@jackolantern22
Ай бұрын
Oh, stop, it's not worse than 3.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
It is. 4 was awful. 3 was less awful.
@jackolantern22
Ай бұрын
@@grahamjackmacpherson6501 this is one of the most bananas takes I’ve ever seen. And that’s saying something. 3 was walk out of the theater bad.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
@@jackolantern22 and 4 was walk out of my house bad.
@jackolantern22
Ай бұрын
@@grahamjackmacpherson6501 nonsense. This is what people say to get attn.
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
@@jackolantern22 nope just my opinion and it's shared by many. If I took your theory i could then argue that the ppl who say it's good are just looking for attention but I won't cos it's a very stupid theory.
@Royalewithcheesewithlove
Ай бұрын
Lol this is probably the worst take I've ever heard. 3 is so bad, everything from the music to the cold corporate filter put on it, the lame villain. I'm genuinely shocked someone would make a vid like this for views lmao. Go back to asking elderly people to fund your Nigerian kingdom.
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
Lost interest in comment as soon as I saw “lol”
@nicklionel9152
Ай бұрын
This video alone is good reason for me to never follow you....smh. bad take
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
If you liked this film then you should definitely not follow me
@michaelmyers3709
Ай бұрын
Don’t worry, have just subscribed to make up for it 👍
@sandorrendeczky8549
Ай бұрын
You are on crack. The new one is awesome!
@grahamjackmacpherson6501
Ай бұрын
You're on crack. It's fucking awful. Get some standards.
@icqpimp
Ай бұрын
I'm nearing the 7 minute mark of this video. Just depressed. The state of entertainment.
@talkbackmovies
Ай бұрын
sad
@PeterZeeke
Ай бұрын
lol, sit down, its not worse than 3
@crazytrain7721
Ай бұрын
Say why, otherwise your post is invalidated
@PeterZeeke
Ай бұрын
Because it’s the movie they set out to make this time. Consistency of tone. An engaged Eddie One of the stars not pulling out because the script was so bad Actual in camera stunts Do you want me to go on?
@EddieHenderson92
Ай бұрын
3 was better and had a more interesting villain.
@PeterZeeke
Ай бұрын
@@EddieHenderson92 ok I get it, you watched it as a kid well done
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