@@rebemma8643Rsham was doing some mediocre damage 🤷♂️
@Kwispy
3 күн бұрын
@@julio4494 its not though. i easily hit 500k-700k on my resto shaman
@julio4494
3 күн бұрын
@@Kwispy While healing in a key? Maybe right now? Back in beta when you could do keys, not even remotely in the ballpark
@Kwispy
3 күн бұрын
@@julio4494 I swear. If you do healing rain into spawning one of your guys and then chain lightning you easily hit 500k dps
@chrispietsch9732
4 күн бұрын
Nerfing a specs healing in one form of content will hurt it in both forms of content. That 6% might be warranted in raid but you are definitely going to feel that in M+. They need to tune based on content/party size vs just flat tuning shit man. Week fucking 1 and Hpal is getting nerfed, and right before the start of a M+ season because it was performing well in raid.
@mattbarrett984
4 күн бұрын
ye agreed man. its a downer for sure
@naomilavric7285
4 күн бұрын
Agreed . Rip hpaly
@LeoSpaceman2012
4 күн бұрын
Exactly. We were nerfed to the ground in season three of dragon flight and limped through season four. Now we were given some hope for the start of TWW and they are already hitting us with nerfs. It's so disheartening.
@RinaaaYa
4 күн бұрын
Worst thing is... Hpal is overperfoming due to numerous bugs. For example, Herald Sun's avatar healing should be reduced beyond 5 targets and this is not true right now in raid.
@seb.t.6053
3 күн бұрын
Its fine, its just 6 % heal nerf Holy Paladings have simply no mana problems and also 20 % hammer of wrath damage is 40 % more healing from the hammer of wrath talent. Also a lot of M+ damage here. try beeing a blizzard chill!
@KvL92
4 күн бұрын
Feels like for M+ you have to play a healer that doesn't do too good in raid or you'll get nerfed lmao
@LeoSpaceman2012
4 күн бұрын
I agree. There is a huge difference between mythic plus and raiding. Nerfing any healer before the mythic plus season is really shitty. Especially based off raiding logs. Healing this season is gonna be hard enough. I'm super disappointed right now with wow.
@erictyler3259
3 күн бұрын
@@LeoSpaceman2012 I agree. And honestly I feel like healing should be somewhat easy. It would get more people interested in actually playing a healer if it was easy. If they want to make things difficult, make it harder for dps. They have plenty of them. 😂
@LoganH0076
4 күн бұрын
Hate to see a 6% nerf at the end of the first week. Would rather it be another week or two so we could get better data. Right now the data is all over the place. People don’t know the fights, they don’t have tier set bonuses, their gear isn’t optimized, and they don’t have BiS trinkets. This is further exaggerated by the fact that the top end guilds are playing specific classes and funneling gear to them. So then you have the top end players in top end gear (with their tier bonuses and stuff already) contributing to the data in week 1 making the other specs look even worse. Holy pally has been feeling really good, and I’m scared it’s going to feel much worse now because they’re making such a big change based unreliable data
@DthScythe01
4 күн бұрын
Resto druid main, in my guild I usually topped the meters. I was dead last in raid last. Feels bad man. I feel like I have to work so much harder and time my cooldowns just to get stuff done.
@happyhippiesurbanfarm
4 күн бұрын
No joke, I dropped resto Druid as my main for this xpac for that exact reason. I love playing all the healers but out of the bunch, my druid is definitely feeling neglected.
@louteez
4 күн бұрын
I rerolled to mistweaver after years of maining rdruid and the difference is crazy. Rdruid heals are so weak
4 күн бұрын
Debemos esperar al tier y el equipo bis, en papel el resto druid se ve muy fuerte
@nickv3085
3 күн бұрын
Try preservation…it’s fun
@nightexd
2 күн бұрын
dropped resto druid too and trying all other healers out. currently on resto shaman
@Skill2080
4 күн бұрын
I dont get Holy Pally nerf…
@TheBulge
3 күн бұрын
Ignoring the lazy tier lists, it's overperforming according to logs.
@MeDusnik
3 күн бұрын
@@TheBulge Do you realize that about 8% of hpallys hps in logs is fake? Lotm tallent is going into the hps instead of being negative :D
@Skill2080
3 күн бұрын
And what is about m+ ? I mean they could wait one week longer and tune then if its needet
@MeDusnik
3 күн бұрын
@@Skill2080 they just want ppl to play other healers, make alts, spend more time in the game gearing them, etc...that's what blizzard do for a 16 years that I play this game, and nothing changed since then
@fynnmarsella482
4 күн бұрын
Im going to main hpal no matter what; that said, nerfing it in week one is such a crime when we have been fighting for our lives for like 8 months now. Just wait for mythic+ numbers and then tune for raid if its still an issue after tier sets + people know the figjts. We typically do a lot more healing when people stand in stuff that by week three they wont stand in anymore. Im big mad.
@TheBulge
3 күн бұрын
It's too strong in raid right now.
@1aml3g3nd13
2 күн бұрын
@@TheBulgeso bc it’s strong in one aspect of the game it needs to be nerfed after the first week?
@fsgajdfgasdfasdf230
2 күн бұрын
@@1aml3g3nd13that’s literally always been how blizzard does it. HPals are such babies I swear
@randommcrandomface7145
Күн бұрын
When are we all going to learn to play like absolute shit for the first couple of weeks before mythic opens so that we don't get good things nerfed so hard?
@matthewjachowski5899
4 күн бұрын
RDruid main, I love the spec but also no one wants to play the other Druid specs. So, I’m also the MotW bot haha. I’ll take any buff because this past week felt bad in raid. Can’t wait to get tier and the anniversary changes! Bring on mythic raid and mythic +!
@PowerCellReactor
3 күн бұрын
Coming back to the game knowing I wanted to play holy Paladin and hearing this isn’t necessarily the best feeling, but I also know over the years there is always constant ups and downs. I love the class no matter what
@johnlinks
4 күн бұрын
Priest getting no changes is a huge disservice
@RinaaaYa
4 күн бұрын
I hope you mean Disc priest because Hpriest is absolutely pumping
@Dutchdifferent
4 күн бұрын
Yeah man this is priest xpac where’s the love!?
@JPsyches
4 күн бұрын
@@RinaaaYa tbf Disc can pump too it just takes more timing/effort.
@Naeinsengimnida
4 күн бұрын
@@JPsyches Numbers aren't a sign of a good spec. Half the Class tree is useless or should be baseline and the spec tree has no real choices
@wowcnmovie
4 күн бұрын
I saw his video, then, I’m like” let me pick up my priest again”. Then I saw your post, I quit
@Blacknotpanther
3 күн бұрын
I think hpalas will still be ok. The HS buff with the tier set will be even more insane.
@Toast-cc7gr
Күн бұрын
Happy that shaman is staying the same, wish they would fix ancestors proving pets, but overall can't complain to much
@dengo6716
4 күн бұрын
God forbid holy paladin is good for once and insta nerf cant even breath 1 week in m+ and already nerf....
@jazactane
Күн бұрын
mate have not watched for a while as I've decided not to stress out on heals this time (hard af to let go!), just wanted to point out that I was beyond amazed after testing all tanks how amazingly bad prot pala is, they deserve at least one spec up near the top besides dps (even though I dont normally play them) so hopefully holy pala doesn't get hit to hard
@darkma1ice
2 күн бұрын
They need to change healers drastically. DPS are dealing 400k+ regular hits in pvp while I’m over here healing a 2.5sec cast heal for 150k with same gear level
@frechesferkel2749
4 күн бұрын
Dont know why they nerf Avenging Crusader. It is already a dead talent.
@MeDusnik
4 күн бұрын
It's not nerfed, numbers wise it's the same
@soj1740
4 күн бұрын
Never been this early in my LIFE
@Balloonbot
4 күн бұрын
I ALWAYS come early!
@kingflexxttv3327
3 күн бұрын
Sort of new to pve content and healing in general always dps and just pvp lol. So my question is does it really make a difference if a heal spec is not in top? Isn't the goal to complete the raid/dungeon? Or are we healers also trying to top healing meters like dps.? Like I said I literally never healed just started this week just want some clarification
@SeriousFoxPwnz
2 күн бұрын
people are always overreacting to any and all changes. Ofc it does not feel good to be nerfed, but pretty much all healers will be fine except in the highest of the high content maybe.
@anonymousc8935
3 күн бұрын
As a pres evoker im glad on the disintegrate dmg buff i was just mainly doing my other 2 atks chrono flame and fire breath cause of how little dmg disintegrate did it was better to use fire breath and spam chrono flame till next fire breath then it was to use a disintegrate
@MeDusnik
3 күн бұрын
@@anonymousc8935damn, Pres was doing top dps from all healers and they still asking more, tupical Evo
@Blackey92
2 күн бұрын
Biggest problem with monks is that master of harmony is more or less a passive damage trinket, its sad how much better conduit is
@willanrac
4 күн бұрын
Yeah avenging crusader nerf looks rough at first glance but holy shock is good even with out glimmer this expansion.
@tftg458
3 күн бұрын
Holy paladin being nerfed while pres evoker and resto shaman are not is one of the most out of touch shit i've seen blizzard do...
@AmericanEulogy666
4 күн бұрын
Poor resto druid, not only the hero talents are an absolute snoozefest but the healing is so lackluster. That 8% is not enough :(
@MeDusnik
4 күн бұрын
8% it's a lot bro, what are you talking about
@josedavidmunozmartinez4722
4 күн бұрын
I’m loving that Blizzard is making class changes basically every 3 or 4 days. The meta lovers must be having a fun time changing their “main” every week hahaha 😂😂😂
@gorrutrdr2971
Күн бұрын
Where's the mana buffs for resto shaman, the mana situation is really really bad right now.
@wrongdesire
4 күн бұрын
as mw player, that hps gap is too huge to be fixed , mw doesnt bring any kind of special utility. mw is relyed on his hps to get inv into raids so if they took it away what is the replacement?
@MeDusnik
3 күн бұрын
@@wrongdesire c'mon bro, u can't be complaining, last two seasons u weremendatory almost everywhere
@S2kloveyou
3 күн бұрын
@@MeDusnik not his fault he loves monk healer. clearly blizzard side that they cant balance the specs. be reasonable
@MeDusnik
3 күн бұрын
@@S2kloveyou they never did and never will, more of that i think they don't even want to, they want us to play different classes, making alts etc.Be realistic
@deusaiurs1669
2 күн бұрын
Thx Buddy ❤
@Massaro_Falsegod
4 күн бұрын
Lets go!!!
@RyanCannon-m9n
4 күн бұрын
What is the rsham flame shock bug?
@josefaguilar2955
3 күн бұрын
The Shadowloand's bug has me wondering because I ended SL with a resto druid in Night Fae. That same druid skipped Dragonflight and is my main in TWW and I've been able to top meters but it does take a lot of work and heavy reliance on Convoke.
@syphlexsyphlex762
2 күн бұрын
Holy priest feels like the worst healer. I see almost no Hpriest in mythics, but they play raids and they just spam aoe to get the numbers up. Also, I don't get why Blizz thinks they need to nerf HPala instead of just bringing other healers up to a similar level. Healing already feels so bad this expansion
@thedonz3019
3 күн бұрын
I'm not sure about the Holy Paladin nerf. The top logs are like 90% LOTM which is considered an effective healing loss even though it makes the logs look better. So people are taking it and making numbers look big, but it's not really as big. We will see. Ellesmere doesn't seem too concerned about it.
@NorwayDet
2 күн бұрын
It's okay that Holy Paladin is getting 6% nerf because of the raid performance charts, but I think it's going to make dungeon healing a bit harder....
@Ethan-wu4re
4 күн бұрын
As a Resto druid otp the hps is so bad right now and am 600ilvl
@max022251
3 күн бұрын
I did normal raid as resto druid with ilvl 602 and could barely keep up with a 585 shaman.
@kuhlorymd369
4 күн бұрын
it sucks that they balance based on that data..
@wendy.allison
4 күн бұрын
I haven't been in a raid group larger than 20 in years and years. lol Normally we're running 15 or less. I'm a resto shaman and the monk in our group way out healed me and they have lower gear. Yes, skill plays a huge part but this is the first time, in this particular guild, I wasn't top heals in almost every fight. We're also only doing normal atm. I can't wait for mythics to start though.
@MystixEvolved
Күн бұрын
Resto Druid is my main and I have overheal and use every spell I have every pull 😔
@smallpandochka
3 күн бұрын
so the bug isn't fixed for holy priests, and it means the halo thing will exist for 1.5-2 weeks (rwf) at least. meh
@codeluis
3 күн бұрын
I was leveling up a druid, I hope I'm not wrong.
@Tyiren1196
4 күн бұрын
When is Blizzard going to make downpour interact with acid rain?
@MohammadAlzahraniii
2 күн бұрын
I do play resto D, shall I change to another healing spec?
@tiggi84
2 күн бұрын
play whatever you feel like is the most fun class. It depends on what you want to achieve, but if you're not aiming for world first raid rankings or super awesome rating in mythic+ you can play every class.
@22CKane
4 күн бұрын
Love ya!
@eddydee1262
Күн бұрын
well if assigned to Spotheals, my Oracle Hpriest still does similar amoounts of HPS than with archon ;) at least in 10-15-20 man raids. I thhink you just dont like Hpriest having more output than your main lol
@ondamixtape
2 күн бұрын
Help rdruids !
@cr1spbeatzplz
3 күн бұрын
Hpal nerf based on heroic week LOTM padding... Sadge
@r1pp3dx
Күн бұрын
anybody feel like some of these mythic dungeons need to be nerfed?
@ClarixTV
4 күн бұрын
MW revival is also broken because its counting pets and summons as players and it does less healer after 20 pleayrtd
@elvisnygren2613
4 күн бұрын
i switched to tank from healer. please remove grove gurdians from resto drud and give me flourish in m+.
@Kwispy
3 күн бұрын
i play h pally and resto shaman. and when i tell you that resto shaman is strong as fuck in raid. idk about this list
@nozari28
3 күн бұрын
Wow, i don't even play Hpal (tried and didn't like it) and i think nerfing it is a huuuge mistake! It's not doing well at all in normal raids (15 man or so) or m0's! They really struggle to pump hps and always complain about people spreading out too much. I feel bad for them.
@andrewcath4615
3 күн бұрын
those mw buffs are kinda weak 3% isn't gonna do much
@mariusbotez2852
3 күн бұрын
Again holy paladin nerf … well ok unsubscribe again 😢
@tomasengstrom6362
3 күн бұрын
these numbers are not taking to account your role in the raid... 😂 AND maybe in these numbers some didn't get to pop their cooldowns because the fight was over etc... etc...
@jeremydennison4926
2 күн бұрын
I’ve mained Resto Druid for pvp since WoD, it’s never felt this bad. Starting season 1, in 3s it’s never felt this bad. It’s beyond disappointing. Rated battle grounds feel fine & 2s, but 3s is an absolute hell hole. (Keep in mind I hit 2.8k almost every season)
@MeDusnik
4 күн бұрын
Hpally top hps because of lotm ubsorb going into hps in logs, if you remove it (it's about 7-8%) plus 6% nerf - you will be shoked after they will fix those logs, going into C tier once again....
@konradsledziewski8436
4 күн бұрын
Imo pala should get around 3% nerf and that would be sweet, 6% is an overkill
@MeDusnik
4 күн бұрын
Agreed 100%
@konradsledziewski8436
4 күн бұрын
@@MeDusnik Blizzard forgets that some part of our healing comes from light of the martyr which is actually healing decrease not an increase, so it's kinda lame that they forget about their deisgn
@g0gool_
3 күн бұрын
Resto shaman damage highly needed. I am not able to kill zekvirs eggs with gs605 because of low damage
@user-vf6wt9bs8t
4 күн бұрын
Makes no sense again by Blizzard
@rockurox
4 күн бұрын
bro us mistweavers DID NOT need a buff. now i can expect a giganerf in 2-3 months to overcorrect
@fractalalpaca9027
4 күн бұрын
Thank them for paladin healing buff, finally I will heal more!
@thiagohperina9545
4 күн бұрын
hpaly heal buff? its has been nerfed by 6% lol
@spriggzz7z
4 күн бұрын
Is this sarcasm?
@DJCLUMZY
4 күн бұрын
A healer should only heal - why fouces on DPS ... so stupid ok well looks like I'm going Ret then no point healing since all healers have to DPS ... Thanks for killing the fun out of the game "WOW"
@Schwanken
4 күн бұрын
Nobody is forcing you to dps as healer.
@TheBulge
3 күн бұрын
It applies to all games with healers, you do damage when you ca because why wouldn't you? Makes things die faster and content easier. Of you don't wanna do it, make way for the ones that do for the better groups.
@DJCLUMZY
3 күн бұрын
@TheBulge then why make "healers" lol ... just make all the dps heal too, then
@tftg458
3 күн бұрын
Nah... Paladin changes are dogshit.
@JugadorViejaEscuela
3 күн бұрын
madskillz saying disc are not going to perform in this expa. They perform so start saying they are so good so blizz nerf us.
@earthwormhimmy
4 күн бұрын
Holy Priest should just go, it seemingly exists to placate casuals in 30-man content who press three buttons in a boss fight(halo/salv/hymn) to collect their shiny heroic hps parses because they can't cast smite more than 2 times per raid boss fight Re-work that garbage spec or just pull it so the other healer specs can enjoy a world without holy priest influencing THEIR tuning. Disc is empirically held back by Holy and its disgusting that Blizz won't decouple these two
@josephpavelich2781
4 күн бұрын
I main a Holy Paladin for a mythic guild. The nerf is 100% because of the macro clowns that want to dps as a healer. If you want to dps....sounds crazy, but play a dps class. 95% of dps could care less about your trash dps as a healer when players in the group are dying. Five percent, maybe ten percent of all Warcraft players even have the skill to perform both efficiently enough to where it is worth it. Out of that 5-10% most use macro's. Are they really even playing the game when it is a one or two button macro push? If you are wanting more dps as a healer, then your healing should be nerfed.
@brianshrimp5824
4 күн бұрын
Nerf all the healers like they did with the tanks.
@Vandiekins
4 күн бұрын
they gotta do something about resto shaman and hpally. all they do is spam one spell and thats it.
@KeyserSoze088
4 күн бұрын
Pls what? Hpally need to use spell to use other spells…How can he spam one? Shaman too…u need totem, wave, next totem, chain idk How u play
@FML998
4 күн бұрын
One spell? Youre fucking nuts hahahah.
@FML998
4 күн бұрын
Found the Hpriest main 😂
@spazzmahtazz04
4 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure I use at least 12+ spells in dungeons/delves as a resto shaman lol
@gurraglad
3 күн бұрын
I know its you Don Trump
@adamszitas8564
4 күн бұрын
Holy pre / post nerf Crusader strike deals 100 dmg Pre nerf 100*4.2 = 420 heal Post nerf 100*1.6*2.6*0.94 = 391 7% less healing per EVERY single cast of J/CS you do during wings. Is it a an uplayable bricking of the spec? No Is it another common blizz L while they ALSO nerfed barrier health of enchants AND fuckups of delves? Yes Holy pala is very smooth to play, thats one of the most inviniting factors of it, as it doesnt require you to be a pianist with 10532432 hours put into making healbot addon to track 102391212321 hots and other buffs - which if arent tracked your healing is 12309210% less. Simple as, its clears from statistics PEOPLE DONT PLAY TANK OR HEALERS (for obvious reasons) and even with 1:4 ratio in dungs or 1:5 ratio in raids. Blizz instead of making them superheroes to incentivise people to play them. They nerf heal and self sustain Same as with delves 100% nerf, this is a braindead decision
@LeoSpaceman2012
4 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more. This is absolutely atrocious. In no way are any nerfs going into what is looking like a very hard m+ season a smart or helpful decision. Also your comment on making the healers feel more powerful to incentivize more people to play it is dead on. Blizz is wasting all of the good will they had built up going into the season. First delves are all jacked up and now they are fucking with healers. Really bad form Blizz.
@RidoDrago
4 күн бұрын
I agree and i had to laugh at your percentages % so thank you for the gig 😅😅😅😅
@adamszitas8564
4 күн бұрын
@@RidoDrago whats wrong? Genuinelly
@RidoDrago
4 күн бұрын
@@adamszitas8564 'pianist with x buttons' exaggerated amounts of numbers, i love it 😅
@adamszitas8564
4 күн бұрын
@@RidoDrago Ah so the % are correct. The healing being worse is correct. The delves being worse is correct. The amount of people playing tank or heal is correct. But the OBVIOUS hyperbole a 2 digit IQ person spots immediately is .. hyperbolic. As I thought
@getmeoffthisplanet4357
4 күн бұрын
So far healing in retail is boring.
@Sam-zy8pc
4 күн бұрын
This! healing in classic is much more diverse in term of cooldown usage AND rotation outside of cooldowns. I cannot stand healing in retail too tbh.
@KeyserSoze088
4 күн бұрын
What? How so? Play hard content and it’s 100% not boring..running hc..sure thats boring ..M with only 600+ ilvl? Sure boring too..M with only 480 people? Thats not so boring
@carteks1
4 күн бұрын
You are definitely doing it wrong. What spec are you playing?
@getmeoffthisplanet4357
4 күн бұрын
@carteks1 disc and holy. Just feels boring. I prefer cata heroic raiding, the healing is was more linear. Way more enjoyable. Mythic plus has been boring, heroic raiding was okay. Healing in retail just isn't what it used to be. You don't even have to manage mana at all. It's easy mode.
@Schwanken
3 күн бұрын
@Sam-zy8pc loool. Yeah waiting for mp5 ticks and have three different ranks of each spell is such a great experience. I enjoy classic aswell but come on.
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