Completely agree with Darius; the time to move Marner was last season. I'd just let him walk for nothing if he won't move his no move; at least you get the salary back for other players that way. If they extend him it should be without a no move no trade so they can move on from him if he doesn't perform in the playoffs again. Continuing with this lineup and with that much of the cap paid to so few players is why they aren't advancing past the first round. They need secondary scoring depth or expect more of the same.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@paultaylor1814 Walk for nothing? Hey man, when your BMW needs a few minor repairs, instead of fixing it. Why not just give it to me instead. Same logic
@OlDirtyBaron
3 ай бұрын
@@shaneturner1809 Thank you. Everyone wants to trade some of the best fucking players in the entire league for a pittance all because bad coaching and bad defense have hurt playoff runs. A lot of these people don't seem to realize that these players are why the Leafs get to the playoffs in the first place.
@Redz1991
3 ай бұрын
Let him walk for free? This has to be one of the dumbest I’ve ever seen
@mickeyjohn2442
3 ай бұрын
@@Redz1991 No other team is going to pay 11 million or 12 million for Marner...If you can get him to waive his no trade clause and package a deal to get assets...The Leafs will have to eat some of that salary...Why pay for a guy who's not on the team...Like they have done in the past...Also, he has under performed in the playoffs since day one...Domi proved that putting up numbers playing with Mathews is absolutely plausible...And Domi gets paid 1/3 the price...Marner is a great player...But as far as production in the playoffs, he's not worth the money he's getting paid...Marner is the only 11 million dollar baby on the team who's rolling snake eyes in the playoffs where it matters... Unless you enjoy 1st round exits over and over again.
@mickeyjohn2442
3 ай бұрын
@@Redz1991 Also, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
@markbenjamin9289
3 ай бұрын
How is Toronto a better team without Mitch? never gonna get the same return. He’s not the only reason they didn’t win in the playoffs. It’s unfair to blame one player if you made 8.5 million wouldn’t be an issue with it. You got one year And you can free up $22 million this is the last year make it or break it
@johngreystone
3 ай бұрын
Play hardball with him . If he walks at end of the year for nothing it frees up 11 million . Worst case scenario is still a win for the leafs . 1 year and done
@jimclarence5441
3 ай бұрын
Agree with you in some ways. But it's not really playing hardball. He's just one of 190 upcoming UFAs.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@@johngreystone Letting a player like Marner walk is simply bad for business. Marner or Nothing is such a stupid take, I'm sorry to be rude but wtf are you guys smoking. I want some
@Dx-so7jm
3 ай бұрын
No contending team is going to give marner 12m , although due to the advantage some markets ahve he may get 10m somewhere else that gives him the same money in his pockets
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@@Dx-so7jm You're crazy if you don't think Marner gets Max money as a FA
@Calers-gu1ib
3 ай бұрын
Stupid comments. Lots of teams would give Marner 12 mil. The best feedman in the league behind McDavaid and only Leaf fans devalue him. Gaudreau wanted out of Calgary, Marner WANTS to stay so Treliving knows that and will handle it so both sides win. I see Marner resigning for 2 years at 8 mil a year then getting the big contract when to next increase comes.
@brianmiddleton1845
3 ай бұрын
The problem in Leaf Nation is that it's not the player it's the media. One numb nut from the media reports that fans are upset with a player and the rest of them run with it. No wonder players don't want to play here it's because of all of you that report on the team.
@robertstanford1778
3 ай бұрын
Many of the fans are upset with the player and have been for some time.
@Calers-gu1ib
3 ай бұрын
Yeah brian and Skinner sits around after a work out watching Leaf Digest and other videos and says to McDavid "you have to be a complete fool to come to Toronto voluntarily"
@Calers-gu1ib
3 ай бұрын
@@robertstanford1778 fk them. You don't rid yourself of a player of Marner's calibre. Burke said you don't trade a player like Marner you trade Nylander.
@Alex-g4h1q
3 ай бұрын
Mark my words, if they trade marner...leafs will be 5 to 7 years away from a full rebuild. NOW the media lie to you including these 2. Marner doesn't perform in the playoffs. 1) He leads the team in playoff points, 2) he lead the team in playoff points 2 seasons ago. When your 11mil 3rd line center only had 8pts, marner had 14pts. Trading marner or letting g him walk will turn the leafs into the next San Jose team.
@AmarRajasansi
2 ай бұрын
!00% ..I honestly feel if not for idiotic Toronto 'sports journalists' riling up Gretz in 93 that Leafs team wins the cup....the team directive should be for players to ignore even if it takes hiring sports psychologists etc...
@ChuckStagg
3 ай бұрын
Mariner is a rare talent. Don't let him go for some 3 line checker.
@canadianroot
3 ай бұрын
Who?
@GG-cf9gm
3 ай бұрын
Marner is the best all round player on the team. He plays offence, defence, penalty kill, power play and showed up EVERY game in the playoffs unlike (Nylander and Mathews) you leaf fans are brutal. Mitch please come to Detroit where we will appreciate your talent.
@biffstrong1079
2 ай бұрын
It's not that anyone hates Mitch Marner or thinks he's bad. The problem is the Leafs have a ridiculous salary structure that they need to readjust before they can compete for a cup. If they sign Marner for more money and more term you are that many years away from trying to win a cup.
@mrcaptain9333
3 ай бұрын
Cant trade him? Sit him and Let him walk. Can’t afford to sign him to 12 million or more. Or the leafs are locked into this nonsense of core four for another 5-8 years and it just doesn’t work even if JT leaves changes need to be made. Why be committed to something that hasn’t worked? If he doesn’t get moved in the off season. Let him walk and call the 11 million you get in cap space be the return. That’s some serious d men, goalies and depth up the middle. Plus you still have Austin, Willie signed, with knies, Easton and Mitten right there.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@mrcaptain9333 You cant just sit Marner then let him walk. What??? That's seriously mis managing a huge asset.
@richardhayling4339
3 ай бұрын
@shaneturner1809 yes you can are you drunk ?....the club needs to set the tone ....Dubai ruined these kids....now the club needs to send the message the club controls players future not the players....think of any other business...the owner and board call the shots not the line workers
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@richardhayling4339 No I'm a sane sober moral individual Sitting him and letting him walk? Might as well throw a for sale sign on the ACC. You'll never get another superstar or any other hometown kid ever in Toronto. Will be 2167 before we win another cup with that level of asset management
@meshworkj
3 ай бұрын
No trade clause is the issue. Shouldn’t be allowed. Removes accountability
@isaacfernandes560
3 ай бұрын
It's only given because GMs want to, no one is forcing them.
@meshworkj
3 ай бұрын
@@isaacfernandes560 understood, my point stands.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
@@meshworkj So you make the players accept a salary cap but if they want something back in return, you are not willing to play fair?
@meshworkj
3 ай бұрын
@@johnsummerhill8323 I don’t agree with the salary cap either. Failed teams should be failed teams. Successful teams should t be punished for shit markets.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
@@meshworkj Or at least, they should take into consideration the cost of living difference which is a big reason why Canadian teams have a hard time signing good 3rd and 4th line players.
@johndowds-t4f
3 ай бұрын
With Berube as the new Leafs coach I think he will teach Mich Marner to become an even better player than he is right now, everyone says trade him, I say keep Marner and the Leafs will be a Stanley Cup contender, the Leafs will be not just a good team but a great team next season GO LEAFS GO GO GO GO
@bb-gc2tx
3 ай бұрын
no goalie and softest captain in all of sports leafs not winning anything
@SharkMinnow
3 ай бұрын
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!
@jimclarence5441
3 ай бұрын
There are 190 upcoming UFA in 2025. They all (few) are traded. They just play out their contracts with their current teams. Some are resigned but many just sign somewhere else. Why do so many Leaf fans think Marner is HAS to be traded. Really it's just nonsensical.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@@jimclarence5441 Because it's just terrible asset management to allow a player of Marners caliber to just leave for nothing. You keep him and resign him. Letting him walk just requires you to find another 100 point player. They don't just grow on trees
@OlDirtyBaron
3 ай бұрын
@@shaneturner1809 this sounds like an argument for keeping Marner, not ditching him.
@jimclarence5441
3 ай бұрын
@@shaneturner1809 I don't think you understanding free agency at all. "Letting him walk". You have to know it isn't the Leafs choice. The player as a UFA as 32 teams you can sign with. If the Leafs don't resign Marner, then they use that cap space to find value in other players including UFAs. Since Marner has a NMC, and the Leafs are in a win mode, highly unlikely that he was/could be traded. Funny, how fans think its OK that they sign UFAs "from other teams" without compensation to "their" team but somehow if a UFA leaves "their" it's the management's fault for either trading or not resigning the player. Let's imagine Marner resigns with the Leafs for 12m....that might leave 1m for another forward and 1m for a Dman....total 14m. Maybe the Leafs would be better to sign a 6m RWer, a 3m forward, and a 5m Dman, That's 14m. PS, Marner has never been a 100 point guy.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@jimclarence5441 No I'm sorry, I think you don't understand how building a hockey team works. Losing a 100 point player is setting you back. Not improving your team. Yes, it would be nice of he made less, but what he makes is fair for his skill level. He's going to get extended because it's what's best for the team and player
@jimlangdon1947
3 ай бұрын
Maybe Mitch can be coached to thrive with playoff officiating? If he improves - then adjust his contract appropriately. Mitch is a good regular season player. He has never really been motivated to perform and adjust his game to thrive under playoff officiating. 😀 The Leaf team culture for playoffs sucks. Even Matthews is a playoff disappointment at centre.
@adrianravinsky8418
3 ай бұрын
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again: the only reason all this trade mitch talk exists is because of the order in which the guys were signed, him being the last one unsigned. the buds’ issue has not been a mitch issue - it’s been an issue of team identity, a collective lack of offense. personally, i think it’s a team mentality thing, which is why i would have preferred to see keefer gone last year instead of kyle. but you don’t trade a top-20, 2-way star like MM from a position of weakness like most of the media is insisting needs to happen. if the chief can’t get us to lead the division by xmas and mitch is putting up a point/game - then try to trade him maybe. but right now every team in the league knows about all this chatter. brad, for better/worse, just ain’t hearin it. all we can do is hope we don’t end up walking him to free agency and losing him for nothing - but if we get through ‘25, we will gain space from 91’s contract expiring and then - problem solved.
@linuxpc71
3 ай бұрын
Skinner reportedly took 1.5 million less to go to the Oilers. Leafs offered him 4.5 million.
@brandonbassett8456
3 ай бұрын
Definitely not true. Know Skinner and he would have come home to TO if an offer was on the table.
@shawnvanhuis3007
3 ай бұрын
I can see this guy walking for nothing next year and the Toronto Maple Leafs get nothing for him😤🤦♂️🤬🤌
@WillPe8
3 ай бұрын
The time to move on from Marner was after the MTL loss. The time to move on from Keefe was the loss to Florida. The time to move on from Shanny was this year. I’m at a complete loss about even watching anything but Matthews and Nylander highlights next year
@derekpaddon9553
3 ай бұрын
I think the issue is these guys like Mitch and Matthews want shorter term deals so they can keep cashing in on the cap rising and suck any chance the team has at buiding a deep team by having team friendly conracts away. We saw WIlly sign his 8 year deal.. To me Marner should have an identical deal as Nylander. 8x11.5M take it or leave it.
@AmarRajasansi
3 ай бұрын
It's interesting how the guy is viewed because Matthews is not a playoff performer either...
@kai1241
3 ай бұрын
terrible take he literally single handely won a game to keep them in. With an injury and illness, hes like a point a game.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
@@kai1241And Marner played all 7 games with an ankle injury that he finished rehabbing 3 weeks after they were eliminated from the playoffs.
@AmarRajasansi
2 ай бұрын
@@kai1241 he won 1 game in a series they lost...true he was ill but he's had several years to steal a series he never has...the one series this group actually won..like ever...Mitch was their best performer. My only point is this teams stars are the anti Mcdavid/Draisaitl..they all fail in the playoffs...the idea that that's more Mitch's fault is unfair. You trade that guy for nothing he'll score 120 points and win the Selke. I have the same issue with guys who dis Tavares..NO ONE really wants to play in Canada..this guy took a pay cut to come home..that alone deserves respect from fans.
@AmarRajasansi
2 ай бұрын
@@kai1241 in 57 playoff games Mitch had 50 points and +10, in 55 playoff games Matthews has 48 points and is +2...they both are worse in the playoffs than regular season... unfair to hate on just 1 of them...
@JimNicholson-q5v
3 ай бұрын
Marner will be with the leafs next season why do you keep talking about him as if he is getting traded
@randyrodrigues8491
3 ай бұрын
The narrative that you have to extend him if you don’t trade him is ridiculous. He’ll be asking for 12.5, having that money to address forward Defence / and goaltending depth would make them a much more balanced team with a better shot at succeeding in the playoffs.
@ChuckStagg
3 ай бұрын
Let's see how many goals Matthews gets without Mitch
@domenicgirgenti8309
3 ай бұрын
hes going to get booed heavily eventually here. Fans know he is our next step to winning the cup. His salary cap is what the leafs need to add the players they need to win the cup.
@xdraconicgaming5204
3 ай бұрын
Looks like my Saturday nights are going to be freed up. I won’t watch another regular season game with Marner on the team.
@scarbourgeoisie
3 ай бұрын
No way Skinner was going to come to Toronto. Worked with his mum. She and her husband hate the Maple Leafs Organization.
@valbaird4243
3 ай бұрын
Trade him I want him out he is a big baby threw his gloves he need to go as same for John Tarvers dudas screw us sgin all the big money deal
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Trade him because he threw his gloves? LOL. Get real.
@cripplehisguitar2798
3 ай бұрын
Why do you think they need to trade or sign him? If you think like that, you are playing right into Marners hand. If he threatens he’s going to walk if not signed let him walk because I bet you if he sit a few games with no pay check he will change his mind. He has held a gun to the Leafs heads for way too long you either call his bluff or you’re going to be stuck with him until the end of the new contract. The only other option you have is to low ball the little prick with $7 million extension for 2 years with a full trade clause to any team of the Leafs choosing and then trade him. If he refuses let him walk and good riddance I’m tired of his games.
@Mick-zz
3 ай бұрын
The way to work it is for Leafs to have their own No Move No Trade policy - limited to select players only, and only for 1/2 the deal. Sign 8 years, first 4 years are No Move. Period. No exceptions and the agents will know in advance what the deal is. Start thinking like a team here instead of a collection of individuals.
3 ай бұрын
Dubas might like Marner and Tavares; Robertson and Liligren maybe even Reilly. Would Crosby entertain a Leafs trade playing left wing with Matthews.
@beepart1
3 ай бұрын
Don’t think the fan base has much interest in going through marner and his agent’s bullshit again. The guy clearly doesn’t want to win. He was overpaid in the current contract so if he was a decent teammate he would accept a pay cut. What’s a good play-making winger who hangs out in the perimeter worth these days?
@kevinmorgan8395
3 ай бұрын
7 years at 11.5M, let’s get it done!
@matthewbriggs7998
3 ай бұрын
Why do you think Vegas is the only place he’d waive for ?
@wizwaz5529
3 ай бұрын
Him, his Dad and his agent turned down a contract offer of $160 million Cdn! TURNED IT DOWN! I’d say see ya, who the hell does he think he is, he hasn’t done shit for the Leafs in the playoffs!
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
That is BS.
@paulelliott7493
3 ай бұрын
If he stays then what?.........he leaves for nothing, and that is not on Tre' thats on Dubas, who gave him a monster deal with a no move clause, I think no move deals should not be allowed, i think at all players should have a limited no trade deal with a list of 10 teams they could be traded to. To give a player that kind of money and then possibly lose them for nothing in return is just stupid. Bettman should do something to save teams from their own idiocy.
@ronmatthews2164
3 ай бұрын
Lol 😂😂😂 Did you guys not notice that Nylander didn't bother to play the first two playoffs games against the very physical Bruins ? Marner has the best points totals in the playoffs on the Leafs. Try to trade Nylander and try to extend Marner and Tavares to a team friendly deal if he wants to retire a leaf.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Nylander missed the first 3 playoff games.
@almVancouver
3 ай бұрын
After another season of paying Tavares 11mil the Leafs will try to resign him for less. Realistically, Tavares would be a 5 to 6 million dollar player at best. Tavares will look for Stamkos money. Leafs will gladly pay.
@oldhab7890
3 ай бұрын
They will definitely resign Marner. Matthews wants him. The Leafs can't let him walk. The Leafs will have 1/2 of Tavares contract and most of the cap increase to improve the team.
@leebird76
3 ай бұрын
There is NO in season trade or deadline deal coming. That ship has long since sailed. Its basically if he walks they have 11mil to resign players they already have and if lucky maybe add a fringe AHL/NHL UFA talent like they been doing last 8 or 9 years. Or sign him have less cap space to sign fringe AHL/ NHL talent. And maybe with the 5 mil in cap savings maybe more maybe less ( probably less given the sweetheart deals with NMC they love to give out) they don't have to give away knies or any other good young player. This is the cost of destroying cap to coddle 4-5 players, That's the reality. Its not because Mariner isn't a good player, its because he represents the only of the core 4 with best chance of being moved for a good return and cap flexibility. People don't seem to realize that keeping him means locking this team in to run it back every year for AT LEAST the next 4 years. So just imagine, instead of the proper rebuild like the fans were promised. The Dubas/ Shanahan dou decided ( like all other GMs before them) thought they knew better and decided cap schmap by tossing their plan out the window and sign Tavares to a mega deal just to extend a few play off dates. So not only has that deal cost Hyman among the stupid amounts of draft picks in "going for it", but could possibly cost Marner as well. Oh and what was Treliving ( because of his experience in the johnny Gudreau saga) brought in to do again?🤔
@jeremytobias3306
3 ай бұрын
Listen we had lots of great players, Sundin, Moginly, Newindyke, lindros, Belfour all at the same time, sometimes you just dont win the cup whoops cant forget Owen
@FearFables0007
3 ай бұрын
Maybe a less popular opinion but I wonder if they take a look at the team come trade deadline and if it doesn't look great then you move mitch to a contender and retain as much as possible to maximize the return. Hell you could even circle back and try to sign next year after John's up lol can't see it but crazier things have happened.
@jeremytobias3306
3 ай бұрын
I think Mcdavid isnt the best its a threeway tie Nathan, Connor & Kusherof & Crosby maybe 2nd tear due to injuries I think he missed like 3 season adding all the games he missed or he would have much more points then Ovy
@wadeanthony8538
3 ай бұрын
..The Leafs equate Marner-Mathews with McDavid-Drisaitil..and..paid accordingly..8 wasted years and no future..and..assuming good players want to come to T.O. to play with Mitch is ludicrous..the room knows what M and M are and move on..
@johnstockbridge953
3 ай бұрын
Put Nylander up for bids as well as Marner. Leafs have some good players on the Marlies. With one or both N & M gone lots of cap space😊😊😊😊
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Sure , then no playoffs.
@mikestr3638
3 ай бұрын
Well I think what's going to happen is mitch is going to make you all eat your words this year in the playoffs and you all goi g to say don't let him go ...
@ouzaky12
3 ай бұрын
Nobody wants him let him walk
@ScreaminT81
3 ай бұрын
This whole thing about “you can’t let him walk” YES YOU CAN! That 11 million in cap can get you lots. Stop the nonsense
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Yes, you can get lots of 3rd and 4th line players. Try getting a star player of that caliber. Impossible.
@randycarolsmith1437
3 ай бұрын
I personally dont want to see him back. He is a good player but its time for a change. If he is back I wont be following them every game like I have been 25+ years
@Dave-zj8vq
3 ай бұрын
They can trade him during the trade deadline…leafs management could get a boatload for him then, and mitch will have more of a secure idea where he would wave to go by then…to inhance the value , i can see treliving retaining salary
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
That makes no sense.
@Dave-zj8vq
2 ай бұрын
@@johnsummerhill8323 some you come with a 4 word statement but no reasoning🤔
@johnsummerhill8323
2 ай бұрын
@@Dave-zj8vq I have no idea what you are trying to say. Sorry.
@davidl6757
3 ай бұрын
How much does he think he’s worth! My goodness- always gonna be a problem with him. Maybe he’ll mature under this management. He hasn’t yet.
@Bbbbbvggtttttfcdeeww
3 ай бұрын
Will the leafs even make the playoffs this year????
@Bink1221
3 ай бұрын
He's not worth 10 mill. Period.
@georgebenevides
3 ай бұрын
That should be the reason. JT and Marner should be moved. TBH I can't see Marner being traded.
@craigkay7891
3 ай бұрын
Hey Darius Blink more !
@ThenewMattClark.Canadaprison
3 ай бұрын
He clearly won't waive.
@coreyrobitialle5449
3 ай бұрын
Cowan**
@rickraftus3608
3 ай бұрын
Amazing you guys are basically Leaf reporters and I have yet to hear you mention this piece of news I had heard from a TSN panel about 1 week ago and that is that Marner had turned down an 11 million , 8 year deal from the Leafs in early June. That tells Leaf fans that Marner could care less about the Leafs and is in it purely for the money which he does not deserve McDavid money. It shows how greedy this kid (28 yrs old) is and the fact that he never volunteers to play on Team Canada after being eliminated for the playoffs again shows how selfish he is. The old guy Tavares played for Team Canada this summer after being eliminated but I guess Marner's time is more precious to him than playing for his country.
@kevinmorgan8395
3 ай бұрын
That report was from 4 years ago.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
The TSN report was BS.You missed that part.
@waldmarwolchuk9483
3 ай бұрын
Baby Tantrum has to go because he is not worth 12-12.5 M NOT even close NEVER shows up in 8 years in the Playoffs INVISIBLE
@kojak013
3 ай бұрын
Everyone is saying what they need to to keep their value at its maximum. Marner camp says they want to stay and play out the contract just means it will cost who ever trades for him more money cause he really didnt want to leave Toronto but I will play for you for 12 M - and Leafs just keeping his trade value high ... But in no way will a Marner trade not happen - You simply tell him that you either go where we want to send you (a contender that wants to re-sign him) or I put you on waivers and you will be stuck on a non-playoff team and if noone takes you then you can play in the echl for a year and I get the 11 M to fix the forwards.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
NMC means no trade, no waivers, no demotion to the minors.
@kevinmedland4335
3 ай бұрын
They kept matthews--gave him a big raise and he has done nothing in the playoffs also
@almVancouver
3 ай бұрын
From the outside I see a bloated organization that has no real will to win the cup. It simply doesn't matter to them. Running it back until the core are using walking canes seems to be the plan. Leafs did improve the D this year, but that's not saying much considering what they had. They literally went out and paid premium money for a couple 30 something D that aren't going to improve their own game, but quickly regress speed wise. That's okay, though, like most players, Leafs made sure to pay them into their late 30's and 40's lol. I like Willy, yet Leafs paid him after his best half a season ever...only to have a massive drop off in Willy's pay. I see no hope for this club.
@DarkAngel1267
3 ай бұрын
One more year with Marner then he will walk away for nothing wonderful money well spent
@stadiumarena5891.
3 ай бұрын
New York Islanders
@John577
3 ай бұрын
If Marner want more than 9.9M, let him walk for nothing! The space is more valuable than him. Skinner just signed for 3M. What would you rather, Marner or three players of Skinners value? Not a questions. Marners 95 points or 3x Skinner 140 points? It's not a questing.. Marner sucks!!!!
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Sure . 3 old players. Makes sense.
@derekpaddon9553
3 ай бұрын
I dont think its imossible AT ALL to move a guy like Mitch at the trade deadline. ... youre looking at a prorated amount of around 30% , 30% of 11M is around 3.5M retain 50% is 1.75M, retain another 50%thats only 850k so a team would really only need 850k worth of cap space. which alot of teams would have by simply movng a guy down or something
@ernesteison7979
3 ай бұрын
Every year Caps fans, we can't win with Ovechkin!!! But they did win. Every year Leafs fans, we can't win with Marner, We'll see.......
@MarcHansen-d2z
3 ай бұрын
Extend 8 x 11.5 10 team Ntc
@terrylawson6663
3 ай бұрын
Marner stink s in the playoffs scared to play and go in the corner s and get gritty Willie isn't scared to hit in the playoffs and he plays hard and hits and isn't scared to move the puck around get rid of mitch send him to the pens for Sidney Crosby some one that's not scared to play all season or in the playoffs
@coreyrobitialle5449
3 ай бұрын
Marner ext 11 x 7 Tavares ext 4 x5 15m instead of 22 7mill cap space kampf trade to chi for 2nd Liljgren jarnkrok in a package with nylander to get top bank ready right wing prospect an d top right shot d Owen power and Jack Quinn from buffalo for instance Activate Minten and Clean Carry cap space into trade deadline or free agency next summer
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Great plan if you want to miss the playoffs.
@mickeyjohn2442
3 ай бұрын
Best case scenario is...Since Marner won't leave...Unfortunately the Leafs are going to have to wait until the end of the year so he can walk...No other team is going to pay the money Marner is getting paid...Only the Leafs management are dumb enough to pay that money...If the Leafs want something for him, they're going to have to eat some of his contract to get rid of him...I say let him walk...Then the Leafs get his 11 million free and clear.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
To do what with? There are no replacements out there that are available or would want to play in Canada.
@mickeyjohn2442
3 ай бұрын
@@johnsummerhill8323 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...Regardless of whether you believe there's nobody out there or not...Marner out of all of the 11 million dollars babies on this team (Soon to be asking for more money)...Has been the least productive in the playoffs (Where it matters most)...Marner is not the only problem on this team...Domi proved that that he could do what Marner did with Matthews for 1/3 the cost...But, do this...Name me one other guy in the League who gets paid 11 million a year to be a 20 goal scorer ?...I'm waiting.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
@@mickeyjohn2442 Marner has more playoff points than either Nylander or Matthews. He played all 7 games on an injured ankle that he finished rehabbing 3 weeks after they were eliminated. Nylander missed 3 games with a headache and Matthews missed 2 games, which the Leafs won. In my opinion, Marner has been their most important player in the last 7 seasons.If someone has to go, it isn't him. And you don't judge a player strictly by how many goals he scored. Nylander scores more goals but only plays half the game. You need to be defensively responsible as well. People are so quick to crap on Marner and blame him for everything that goes wrong. You win as a team, and lose as a team.
@mickeyjohn2442
3 ай бұрын
@@johnsummerhill8323 I wasn't comparing Nylander to Marner...Like I said...Marner isn't the only problem on this team...But, you didn't answer my question...Name one other player in the NHL who gets paid 11 million (Soon to be asking for 12 million) to score 20 goals a year...If you can't see that that's outrageous...Then there's no hope for you.
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
@@mickeyjohn2442 First of all he scores more than 20 goals a year. Secondly, as I said previously, he does a lot more for the team than score goals. The only reason I mentioned Nylander is because he just signed. $11.75 million dollar contract and he is not as valuable to the team, nor is he the complete player that Marner is. I am not saying that he should not be on the team. But if Nylander is worth that amount, then Marner is worth at least that amount. What other teams pay their players is irrelevant to me. American teams typically can get away from paying less because of the cost of living difference between the 2 countries. And because of the media crap that Leaf players have to go through, the Leafs typically pay more. If the player even agrees to play in Toronto.
@terrylawson6663
3 ай бұрын
Lmfao mathews is the best player on the team had a concoction and a virus and came back to try and help win he's a grinder not scared to hit or goo in the corners so leave mathews alone
@andrewkara8596
3 ай бұрын
Booooooooooo!! Trade him!! He's a good regular season player but in playoffs he chokes. Its been like 8 years enough already.
@Redz1991
3 ай бұрын
He had one bad playoff series he’s almost a point of game still in playoffs . He’s one of the best wingers and plays makers in league so stfu
@leafatheart
3 ай бұрын
You are not hockey smart. He does everything pp pk good 2 way player hometown near 100 point player. Blocks shots and has the most playoff points of the big 4. Problem is not Marner it's the contract. They can keep them all and be a good team with the right adds. They toughened up this year on back end They are better and Cowan gunna surprise some people
@andrewkara8596
3 ай бұрын
@@Redz1991 dude its the same shit with him. He's good in the regular season and when it comes to playoffs he's a pussy so you stfu
@wannabefunnyman
3 ай бұрын
Are you on crack? Should they have traded 16 when they could have last season? Yes. Do they have to re-sign him now because of it? NO!!!!!! Letting him walk gives us $10.9M in cap space. That’s far from nothing. I truly don’t understand the send good money after bad mindset. In a cap world you simply can’t give 8 figure salaries to multiple players who disappear in big moments.
@philhoughton3677
3 ай бұрын
Marner is not going anywhere. Get over it 😢
@Trouble-cm6gq
3 ай бұрын
You can't trade 100 point guy because he didn't produce in the playoffs know One did that's why they had a quick exit
@chuckwiseman3772
3 ай бұрын
You can trade anybody.
@robertstanford1778
3 ай бұрын
He us not a 100 point guy. He has never had a 100 point season. Leafs have 1 hundred point guy and that's Matthews who has done it twice.
@Trouble-cm6gq
3 ай бұрын
@@robertstanford1778 he will be a 100 point guy
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
@@robertstanford1778Then Matthews is the guy to trade. They usually win without him.
@WilliamMccormick-lt2wl
3 ай бұрын
Marner is going to want more than nylander
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
He deserves more. He is a better player.
@WilliamMccormick-lt2wl
2 ай бұрын
They won’t be able to fill the roster if they give Marner more than nylander,they put themselves in a bad situation by overpaying
@johnsummerhill8323
2 ай бұрын
@@WilliamMccormick-lt2wlHe already has a contract for this year.Tavares is done at the end of the next year.
@carolynnkelly283
3 ай бұрын
Marner is better than Nylander
@robertstanford1778
3 ай бұрын
Not in recent playoff he isn't.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@robertstanford1778 Overall playoffs, yes he is. Overall regular season, yes he is Overall as a player, yes he is
@huey166
3 ай бұрын
No he isn't
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@huey166 Stats say otherwise All Willy does is score goals. Marner could easily score 40 if he stopped trying to set everyone up all the time. Marner is better at faceoffs, better passer, better in the defensive end, better on the PP and PK. Not sure what games you guys watch
@WillPe8
3 ай бұрын
In the regular season he gets more pts. If only playoff matter I’d have to disagree. Can’t wait for 1 pt through games 5-7 in a first round loss to Tampa.
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
Marner is a leaf for life.
@SixerIverson04
3 ай бұрын
If he does not get traded they will lose him for nothing in next year's offseason
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@SixerIverson04 He's incentivized to resign in Toronto. Not only does he want to be here, he gets the ability to sign for 8 years instead of 7.
@SixerIverson04
3 ай бұрын
@shaneturner1809 Then you will get the same results and they will not make it further in the playoffs and not make the finals
@shaneturner1809
3 ай бұрын
@SixerIverson04 How do you know that? Last year Samsonov gave away at least 2 games. Replay those games with Woll instead, leafs probably win the series. Leafs probably win the cup the year Perry knee'd Tavares in the head, had that not happened Leafs main deficiencies have been D related. Looks like that's massively improved Marner hasn't been used correctly come playoffs. He's too small to be in the top 6 come round 1. Berube knows this better than any leaf coach. He'll have a 100 point regular season and then be a PP and PK specialist with 3rd line duties come playoffs. Use the players correctly and this team is scary good.
@williamrallis83
3 ай бұрын
Marner is more valuable than Nylander
@thelifeemery
3 ай бұрын
I used to feel this way too, but the reality is they can't afford to keep both of them. Nylander is locked in so Marner needs to go. That's the bottom line. The lineup will always have holes in it when you have 3 or 4 guys making 50% of the salary.
@huey166
3 ай бұрын
No he isn't
@johnsummerhill8323
3 ай бұрын
Marner is way more important to the team than Nylander.
@Lee-f9w5v
3 ай бұрын
Biggest joke in NHL , the TML! No player ever wants to come here or stay because if you are not one of the Core 4 your expendable! Add to that the high tax rate in Toronto! Add to that the longest Cup drought in NHL! Add to that being under a media microscope and now wonder TML are never going to win anything!
@williamrallis83
3 ай бұрын
No value for consideration for Marner … who are you going to trade him for
@robertstanford1778
3 ай бұрын
You could add 2 good players for what he will want in a new deal. Those two players could make a huge difference in the playoffs.
@williamrallis83
3 ай бұрын
@@robertstanford1778 who? Drysitle!
@KP-05
3 ай бұрын
Should have traded his ass last season.dudes a joke
@Dx-so7jm
3 ай бұрын
Anyone that says they need to resign him to not lose him is why this team is the way it is , het real , SIGN HIM ? Are you nuts
@rickrasheed7731
3 ай бұрын
He is useless in the playoffs and needs to be traded
@TheAllanmc64
3 ай бұрын
Stop it. MM is a 100 point per season player , and gives 100%. He isn't why the Leafs lost the first round. Garbage fans.
@kevinmorgan8395
3 ай бұрын
Correct. He is a GREAT player. Lucky to have him. We just need to sign him for reasonable money. No more than Nylander money - let’s get it done.
@TimJar
3 ай бұрын
Something tells me his dad will make the decision not him
@clarencetinney5155
3 ай бұрын
Sign in trade
@brandigan56
3 ай бұрын
If marner is bringing a purse to the playoffs he can leave, nobody wants a whimpy video game playing kid on an adult team.
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