Always wondered if Kobe's career would've been better or worse or the same pretty much, had he stayed with Charlotte on draft night.
@georgeschneider9751
Жыл бұрын
Way different. We're talking about the Lakers.
@gilbertbrown4183
Жыл бұрын
Probably something like a erratic Vince Carter early in his career. Charlotte Hornets didn't have a winning culture so Bryant would have probably left free agency. Playing for stats and not winning. Who in your top 10 all-time?
@neilbryanbucsit197
Жыл бұрын
Same with Curry going to the wolves people most people doesn't remember but Steph is very injury prone early in his career
@akeme25
Жыл бұрын
He’d have still been a superstar. With his work ethic, there’s no way he wouldn’t have. He just wouldn’t have had as much team success. At least unless they’d still end up getting Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn, then maybe would have made a little bit of noise.
@ikemason9114
Жыл бұрын
What if the Washington Wizards never gave up on Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton to help the Pistons get some chips during the 2000's and they traded Chris Webber in his prime to Sacramento for old ass broken ran down Mitch I can chuck 3's and hurt my knees Richmond and Michael I can't score over 13pts Smith
@constablekennedy7705
Жыл бұрын
Still Crazy to think that Kobe Bryant is No Longer here🏀
@NCOMBHOODIE
Жыл бұрын
yeah that’s crazy . LLKB 💜💛
@ShaunTheNavigator
Жыл бұрын
Man... No cap 🧢
@guru_basketball_kiero
Жыл бұрын
#GuruBasketballKieroSays Seriously.
@jeronedavis165
Жыл бұрын
I say that once a day
@L92185
Жыл бұрын
@@jeronedavis165 me too
@camerenrandi
Жыл бұрын
Remember now, the 76ers had the number 2 pick in 1997. If Van Horn goes to the Spurs, Duncan would go to Philly and he doesn't get traded to the Nets.....Now Philly would have Iverson and Duncan. That would've been extremely interesting
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
Sure would have been. But I don't see even Duncan stopping Iverson's ball hogging.
@algorhythm83
Жыл бұрын
I was about to post the same thing. I do not believe ball hogging would have been an issue because Iverson would have realized Duncan's talent from the start.
@johndavis9321
Жыл бұрын
@@algorhythm83I doubt seeing Duncan could play would have stopped Iverson from ball hoggin live ivo dude is an NBA and basketball legend... But let's be honest dude was also a collosal shot jacker
@algorhythm83
Жыл бұрын
@@johndavis9321 I believe it would have been a good inside/outside match. Iverson worked with an older Chris Webber. I believe he would have done damage with a younger Tim Duncan. Remember they got Theo Ratliff which turned into Mutumbo. Imagine that front court. Hey, the world will never know.
@SonnyK248
Жыл бұрын
If Kobe hadn’t had that pre draft workout in LA then he probably wouldn’t have ended up in Charlotte. He’d have gone higher. The story went that after speaking to West, Kobe was determined to get to LA and put the word out that any team that drafted him and didn’t trade him there wouldn’t get him. He was threatening to go play in Italy if he didn’t go to LA. So Charlotte drafted because they wanted Divac.
@TTJJCC
Жыл бұрын
Duncan would've been the #1 pick regardless who was picking.
@gilbertbrown4183
Жыл бұрын
The Houston Rockets could have had Jordan, Olajuwon and Drexler on the same team. If Len Bias wouldn't have passed away, playing with Bird, McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson. Carmelo getting drafted by the Detroit Pistons.
@josephblue878
Жыл бұрын
your content is steadily improving , salute to you
@IronTorch20
Жыл бұрын
Robinson being there to mentor Duncan was definitely helpful. I don't agree, Duncan was the slam dunk (pun intended) number one pick at the time, where the Celtics and other teams were straight tanking for him. Minnesota getting caught trying to skirt the cap was a real bizarre story. KG was on his way with Marbury, he needed another shooter or point guard. As for Kobe, him staying in Charlotte could've had a huge ripple effect, the Hornets probably never leave for New Orleans, we don't know if Phil Jackson goes to Charlotte, since the Triangle was well catered towards Shaq and Kobe.
@jonathangreaves8785
Жыл бұрын
Could you do Rodney stuckey? A bucket in college, went to detroit and never really put it together
@marqueswilliams345
Жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t know Sam Perkins was drafted ahead of Charles Barkley
@willclinton468
Жыл бұрын
Us from Jersey ate still mad about Kobe..Coach Cal was gonna take him at 9 but Kobe made ot clear he didnt want to play for NJ
@subymanvince
Жыл бұрын
Also, Kobe had refused to play for the Hornets. That was a large part of what happened. The Hornets made that trade for that reason as well.
@ikemason9114
Жыл бұрын
You should do a Stunted Franchise series starting with the Washington Wizards no championships for 43 years after this season 44 years
@izz1540
Жыл бұрын
Love ya videos bro keep ‘em coming!!!pause!
@demetresblakley1352
Жыл бұрын
What the Hornets was thinking😤
@spurguvitunhuora9119
Жыл бұрын
In my mind, biggest what if of the 90s, is what if cold war didnt keep Sabonis from arriving to Portland before Blazers made the finals. Maybe Bulls cant compete against a dominant center and Jordan retires with... lets say two rings?
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
Maybe. That's an interesting thought because the Bulls had centers but they were never dominant, not even Luc Longley when he was at his best. What made the Bulls the dynasty they became were their guards. But Portland had great ones too and Sabonis would have meshed perfect with them.
@furrellpiere8930
Жыл бұрын
90s...last time you saw meaningful defense actually being played 😅😂and not all the damn 3s
@G-TV_TheOneManArmy
Жыл бұрын
The 2000s had the deadball era and lowest scoring defense was really prevalent during that time
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it!!! Ugh, it just up and disappeared.
@demetresblakley1352
Жыл бұрын
96 and 2003 was the 2 best draft class thus far!!
@shakenblake4533
Жыл бұрын
What about 84?
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
@@shakenblake4533Right
@inhop2443
Жыл бұрын
Bryant refused to play in Charlotte. That's not on the Hornets, surely?
@skiprockjr.6881
Жыл бұрын
RIP Drazen
@qceaz11
Жыл бұрын
No Disrespect To Bubba Chuck, But Philly Said Had Duncan Came Out In 96 They Would've Took Him So 97 Was A No Brainer That He Was Goin #1
@connormacleod1490
Жыл бұрын
You got to wonder what if the Wolves did not trade Ray Allen to the Bucks after getting drafted by them.
@Ray-c1r
Жыл бұрын
Whatchu mean David Robinson wasnt athletic, that dude was fit as hell
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
He was fit, yes, but athletic....maybe not as much. I think he was talking more about his range of motion and flexibility to do more creatively....kind of like his teammate Duncan.
@Ray-c1r
Жыл бұрын
@@TheRetroWoman80 lol um David Robinson was more agile than Duncan
@alfonsosan32
Жыл бұрын
Could you make one about Franklin Jackson
@patrik32
Жыл бұрын
I love your content, but honestly Duncan was a sure pick at first, the second pick was a questionable thing... I was reading ton of basketball magazines and it was going to be the DUNCAN pick ( in this thinking it fails, if you go that way that What if Nets won the 1st pick it can be) Joe Smith- never understood why to get Smith who played the same position like KG, not going for a shooting guard or a real small forward or Center. I'm more curious if he stays on GSW for that 80million dollar deal, would he become an all-star? Getting better as a first option? Kobe- for this as well you need to check the draft period, all knew he has talent but was like a prospect (as he was in real time), he told the teams which teams he would play for, for many he said he would go to play in Italy... Hornets got Vlade, while the Cavs drafted Potapenko... I think he would have been similar to AI, as an individualist who never pass, a bit similar to early Jordan.
@normanrodriguez6670
Жыл бұрын
One that would be good is Dennis Scott. Was a great sharpshooter for Orlando then fell off the face of the Earth.
@unappealingundesirable2826
6 ай бұрын
In 1998-99, I did my "50 All Time Worst NBA Players," and "Franchise Nightmare Team" for each team. Here are some comments from my friends: "Oh come on, you have to take Tracy McGrady off of your all-time worst team." And, they disagreed when I also put Antoine Carr, John Battle, Tyrone Corbin, Frank Johnson, Dana Barros and Terry Teagle on my All-Time Worst List.
@Ray-c1r
Жыл бұрын
What if the Sonics wouldve paid Shawn Kemp what he deserved after taking the sonics, along with Gary Payton, to the finals...or what if Chicago wouldve traded Pippen for Kemp...
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
🤔Maybe he would be on his way to a chip but I wonder if that would have stopped the drinking too?🤷♀️
@flameu22
Жыл бұрын
Rodrigue Beaubois, Francisco Garcia, Shawn Williams
@bradleystraley6165
Жыл бұрын
Duncan was a Wembanyama level lock for the #1 pick. Kinda feel that's a silly "what if". If you had said "What if San Antonio hadnt gotten the first pick?" It would have made more sense
@savel-oe3lx
Жыл бұрын
Who goes under da table fa Joe Smith who was aight as Dubs rookie but not no franchise change cat
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
I agree. He peaked at Maryland and coasted in the NBA.
@Jonathanfifer00
Жыл бұрын
Hornets still making bonehead pics til this day 😂
@mickeylee2624
Жыл бұрын
Really great points! I would add that the Duncan-Van Horn switch would have prevented the current false narrative of TD being a PF because even with his entire career in San Antonio, he played more seasons as a Center. Had he been drafted by the Nets, he likely would have been a Center his entire career without having Robinson to do the dirty work dealing with the physically demanding opponents like Shaq. The Kobe one is interesting because had Charlotte kept him, he may have gotten closer to MJ from a statistical perspective, being in the historically weak Leastern Conference era. However, it also would have prevented the NBA to push the Lakers over the Jailblazers and Kings without such an obvious power pairing with Shaq (who may have ended his career with only 1 or 2 titles). In fact, San Antonio may have won another title as well as Portland and Sacramento each taking one. KG, as with Juwan Howard, is partly to blame for the Joe Smith scandal because they started the insane $100+ million contracts that kneecapped their respective team's salary cap. Certainly, he is entitled to earning as much pay as possible, but had he taken a small discount to legitimately attract free agents, Smith/McHale/T-Wolves management would have not cheated.
@MrJbee73
Жыл бұрын
Oh there are scripts.
@troystephens5735
Жыл бұрын
Trading vlade for Kobe is the equivalent of, the 76ers thinking that offering Dr.J for Jordan was a fair deal 😂.
@kennyk9579
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, but I definitely can’t agree with KG being a top-10 all-time great.
@savel-oe3lx
Жыл бұрын
How does GSW pick Joe Smith over McDyess n KG
@tayfattz2272
Жыл бұрын
Joe Smith was a beast at Maryland.
@heavybrandpodcast
Жыл бұрын
Just watched a new channel (Upthescore) where some dude was trying too hard to sound like stunted growth 🤦🏿♂️ 😂
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
Can't stop clonage, unfortunately🤷♀️ And I have witnessed certain channels start out with one energy/focus and the gradually bite off another's game to increase subscribers. Highly inauthentic.
@itz-luigi1210
Жыл бұрын
There was never a question, TD was going to be the #1 pick. The van horn thing is a reach
@g-luvbeans7799
Жыл бұрын
U don’t think Jordon in a different script won’t b MJ? Stop! Love ur videos brother! Do u !!!!
@AlaMO96
Жыл бұрын
In what world was Van Horn going to be picked over Duncan?
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
Lol, I hear you. Van Horn's game was beast but it was probably because Utah's conference was not challenging like the ACC nor did Van Horn necessarily carry Utah the way Duncan's presence seemed to with Wake Forest.
@AlaMO96
Жыл бұрын
@TheRetroWoman80 Duncan could anchor an offense and defense. Van Horn was never asked for anchor a defense in college or the NBA....I think his NBA ceiling was 3rd best player on a championship team.
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
@@AlaMO96 Agreed.
@Ray-c1r
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cared about kg in minnesota while there was barkley malone and kemp
@testimonyofthelamb583
Жыл бұрын
U gotta be crazy if dnt see sports entertainment isn't scripted smh 🤦🏾♂️
@Ray-c1r
Жыл бұрын
It's not wwf 😆 wwe
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
True. This whole planet is.
@shedrickpruitt4175
Жыл бұрын
KG n Duncan stat wise had the same career. Imagine them switching career paths. Would Duncan have the same success or would KG thrive with Pop?
@Ray-c1r
Жыл бұрын
And having David Robinson
@slobberkissintl3548
Жыл бұрын
I just looked at the KG one today. Minnesota was a playoff team every year they lost a pick and the #1 seed in 2004. They got their picks back in 2003 (Ndudi Ebi at #26) and 2005 (Rashad McCants at #14). 2001 they could have taken Tony Parker but realistically they had Terrell Brandon and Chauncey Billips and they probably would have taken Brendan Haywood. He was aite 2002 i think best case scenario is they take Tayshaun Prince but I don't know if he helps them as much as that hurts Detroit who is in another conference and helps the Lakers who probably could have beat MN with Tayshaun and surely would beaten Indiana again who might've gotten past a Detroit team without Tayshaun, remember the clutch block on Reggie Miller. 2004 they were #1 in the west and could have got Anderson Varejão. Yawn. So it wasn't really that big of a deal. It's like, imagine if the 90s Bulls lost all their draft picks. As for trading the picks, they were all in the 20s until 2005 so I don't think they would have got much. Minnesota and KG just didn't get it done. But in fairness, it was a brutal stretch for a western conference team to try to grow into a contender. If anything, you could say, that since the penalty didn't matter, they should have cheated for a more impactful player. Like they should have got Sprewell in 99 or something And the Kobe one... Kobe wanted to go to LA. That Charlotte traded him is not dumb. The dumb thing is that they got Vlade Divac and like three teams ahead of Charlotte took centers who weren't half as good as Vlade Divac. Like if you're going to take a shitty center and hope for the best, just take Kobe and trade him for Vlade Divac who went to the Finals with Magic Johnson and clearly knows a thing or two about basketball. Clippers, Dallas, Indiana, Golden State... get smarter guys 😆
@brandonmuse5532
Жыл бұрын
Great
@TTJJCC
Жыл бұрын
What family baggage did Kobe have on his name?
@TheRetroWoman80
Жыл бұрын
I thought about that too. Didn't his family drama happen a few years into the league when he started going out with Vanessa?
@theloniushatch9989
Жыл бұрын
Carl Wright smu
@RandomShapeless
Жыл бұрын
Bruh. This is reaching.
@gt-gu7rb
Жыл бұрын
Who the hell would take Van Horn over Duncan?
@death2denemy
Жыл бұрын
Garnett is not a top 10 all time great.. Who u taking out the top ten to put garnett in?!?
@jaysonmahaguay5888
4 ай бұрын
I don't think the Spurs will be successful with Keith Van Horn, David Robinson is not as he used to be,maybe still a playoff team but not as championship contender, and so Tim Duncan will not taste the success if he played in New Jersey
@yunsukoh8602
Жыл бұрын
What if Melo went to Pistons..
@jessearias2863
Жыл бұрын
No jc as I have told you I am a life long lakers fan the only place kobe could be is the lakers. He was made to take magic Johnson s place as the next greatest leader in team history.
@NabateIsles
Жыл бұрын
KG was amazing but NOT a Top-10 All-Time Great!
@g-luvbeans7799
Жыл бұрын
Percy harvin
@SwitchB
Жыл бұрын
KG is and never was considered a top 10 player.
@georgeschneider9751
Жыл бұрын
K. Bryant, M. Jordan, E. Johnson, L. Bird, L. James, B. Russell, W. Chamberlin, K. Jabar, S. O'Neil. Who would you add to this list?
@georgeschneider9751
Жыл бұрын
We are already up to 9.
@georgeschneider9751
Жыл бұрын
O. Robinson has the numbers. But does not pass my "eye test".
@georgeschneider9751
Жыл бұрын
H. Olajuwon was as good as these guys.
@davidnadel6145
Жыл бұрын
For the 10th spot options: Barkley / Curry / Erving / Ewing / Olajuwan / Malone / Stockton / Duncan / Garnett / Robertson / Wilkins / I. Thomas / Cousy / McAdoo / Durant / Robinson
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