Totally. Grappling styles are so fluid and cross-pollinated now there isn't any significant difference between them.
@_N.A.L_
5 жыл бұрын
Борцы BJJ в Нью-Йорке возможно есть. Где они взяли этих борцов самбо, например самбиста афроамериканца, не понятно. Я думаю, чтоб оценить реальную силу самбо и понять, что же более действенно, надо провести подобный турнир на уровне национальных сборных и в moscow city. А то устроили там цирк в каком то кабаке. Мое личное мнение, самбо однозначно сильнее, разностороннее и опаснее чем bjj. Я думаю член сборной России уделает чемпиона какой нить страны по bjj и даже не заметит, потому что многие фишки bjj есть в самбо, но не наоборот
@creature0704
5 жыл бұрын
Где хоть вы таких самбистов понабрали?!
@АлександрСергеевич-ч7г3н
5 жыл бұрын
Кирилл Гриня это вольники
@robertacho89
13 жыл бұрын
how did the matches end ??? 8-0 bjj???
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@Five5six because this is a BJJ friendly edited video, the real video shows 50/50 in terms of winnings.. both styles won equal amounts of time.
@johneykang
15 жыл бұрын
ive got a question though, these were all the fights of the night? and every single match went to the bjj guys?
@backwardsnam
15 жыл бұрын
i love watching bjj vs the kickboxing and ninjitsu arts
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
So well put.Always tried to say that,but the way you types it is exactly what I thought.Willb e using this.
@hansolo1935
5 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, BJJ rules? No throws, no kicks, no punches... exactly the opposite of an actual fight.
@BluePittbull666
14 жыл бұрын
both styles r great.
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
and it is good for the street aswell,becaouse it was modified,adapted and made on the street....street fights,bar fights and every kind of fights where a very common thing in brazil,the gracies adapted what they already knew and made Bjj which dominated all other fighters in the street....almost every gracie was serving jail time for street fighting at one point in their life...but im happy that this conversation went from insulting to a civilized conversation ;D
@amenra13
15 жыл бұрын
For the record...in street fights or vale tudo...bjj does not teach you to hold onto the armbar or triangle when you are about to get slammed. There are techniques you can use to prevent that situation. If you are too slow or unable to prevent your opponent from posturing/standing up then you should release it. Don't confuse sport bJJ with self defense bjj. What you saw in the video was bad technique by the bjj guys, not the rule of thumb.
@yuenj01
14 жыл бұрын
what is the different between sambo n bjj? i know its grappling art and it focuses on footlock. do they do stuff like open guard, passing guard and stuff like that?
@colemanimal
13 жыл бұрын
slams are allowed? what kind of tournament is this?
@Rhythmicbodywork
12 жыл бұрын
I'm in NYC... What BJJ school are they from and when will they throw another cross discipline "style vs style" tourniment. Hell throw in judo and catch wrestling and and expand the brackets.
@ev3nflow
16 жыл бұрын
world freestyle champion gets owned at the end by the triangle... And mma legend oleg taktarov handing the medals out at the end.. good video..Bjj owns
@tricepsish
11 жыл бұрын
not many leg locks attempted... were they banned?
@romanstudia
14 жыл бұрын
Is it somewhere on the brighton beach?
@RainDelay
14 жыл бұрын
Great grappling! Both sports are great!
@BoricuaAltaHueso787
12 жыл бұрын
@pizzasuits Bjj plus Wrestling equals ultimate grappling.
@racketa
15 жыл бұрын
how much is score?
@4c00h
14 жыл бұрын
@wally2296 Note that a lot of people that do BJJ also do Muay Thai so they're not just ground fighters. On the street I wont be trying to submit someone, if if goes to the ground, I'll be sure to be on the better position and be as dirty as anyone else would be with eye gouges, biting, throat stabbing. You can't say someone with BJJ knowledge doesnt have an advantage on the street because they do.
@syimang
14 жыл бұрын
Ueshiba Morehei(Aikido) is a Jiu jitsu master trained under Takeda Sokaku of Daito Ryu Jiu Jitsu but sense that it lack of multiple attacks/defends, weapon attack/defences & thought that takedowns r not applicable in a real fights where one need to act fast without taking too much time on the ground.For him, Jiu jitsu will be better & applicable only in the ring or competitions...
@watchbeforeyoudie
15 жыл бұрын
if there are more than one opponent you should run, it doesn't matter what martial art you are in
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
so my point is that,if Bjj is gay than 99% of MMA fighters are gay.... sry for all the messages,i just had to say it....
@gremlin05
15 жыл бұрын
Instead of saying which is better, how about learning both and getting the best of both worlds?
@etanderson
16 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with using a throw?
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@lampard1986 oh that's easy, ADCC shares very similar point rule system with BJJ, actually, I think BJJ copied it from ADCC or maybe other way around but they are shared. Points for takedowns, points for knee on belly, points for mount, passing guard, etc. no wonder you see a few Judokas & Sambists in there, the point system is similar to BJJ. Also, grappling does not mean submission only, it also means takedowns, etc ... and BJJ guys are not known for takedowns.. google ("define grappling")
@MarshalNey13
13 жыл бұрын
Was that Oleg Taktarov awarding the medal at the end?
@MPeako1984
16 жыл бұрын
Then I'd say wrestling is the great grandfather. Despite the more effective ways to win a fight, few jiu-jitsu, sambo, or judo artists know how to effectively take an opponent to the the ground without using a throw. Unless they have wrestling experience that is.
@TIKOMIX
15 жыл бұрын
2:22 was awsome...He had that coming big time the way he was just rushing in.
@allteeth
16 жыл бұрын
Kaz, No style is perfect, but like or not, BJJ is and has been the MOST dominant. Now that it has gone global it continues to evolve into new and more effective forms. It has been battlefield tested, and now it continues to be tested in rings and cages all over the globe. Don't hate, educate. Being able to absorb additional skills like Muay Thai and wrestling isn't a weakness its a strenth. One dimnesional styles that don't evolve will eventually become extinct.
@kazpix911
16 жыл бұрын
lol, in your video, noone said(or have written) that owned guy is using bbj..
@4c00h
14 жыл бұрын
Love the head tap at 7:01 "Good try buddy."
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
...and it is a HUGE common mistake that pucnhing and kicking is not allowed in Bjj....it is not allowed in competition Bjj but Bjj was first and foremost a self defence martial art...meaning you can hit all you whant....every worthy and good Bjj academy is gonna teach you at least the basics of striking arts,and it is gonna teach you those arts for as long as you train....it just focuces the most on ground fight and grappling....
@FusBoxesambo1
14 жыл бұрын
the original vid shows 50/50 ish . Someone BJJ friendly edited to show a less than true outcome.
@Slipknotsico666
16 жыл бұрын
Jungle Gym all the fucking way. Nice arm bar bat. Fastest in this tournament!..That kids an animal!
@TIKOMIX
15 жыл бұрын
When ppl feel to safe on their back you should be allowed to slam them...not sure if that was a foul or not.
@imnodog
15 жыл бұрын
yeah but he's been there for the past year only, and when he fought emelianenko he wasn't part of chute boxe yet. he's just now learning muy thai.
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@billysue2 You're very wrong on many of the things you said. ADCC was created by Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan with his BJJ black belt instructor Nelson Monteiro (Google this). Secondary, look at the scoring system of ADCC and IBJJF, they are almost identical (point system for sweeps, takedowns, rear control, full mount, advantages are same with BJJ). Why do you think almost all BJJ guys compete in ADCC, they know the point system. Second, Fedor never fought big BJJ guys? Nog? Sobral?? LOL
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
well you are correct about the weak epople part....helio couldnt become strong enough to use Jujutsu and Judo techniques so he adapted them for his own strenght.....and they work even better than Jujutsu techniques....meaning that a weaker person can defeat a stronger person..thats the whole point of self defence,and Bjj is made for self defence...not quess what happens when somebody who is strong as an ox uses those techniques....VICTORY!! thats what happens....
@SandToof
14 жыл бұрын
Well true that at the beginning levels of white and blue it would depend on the person and if they were well trained. But we dont just learn to fight "on" the ground, But if the fight goes there I know for sure I wont be the one on my back. So if you look up alot of street fights you will see them fall down prolly 9 out of 10 times. And with BJJ that will most likely be 9 out of 10 times your decision how it gets there and who is on top.
@WATRUSAYIN
14 жыл бұрын
Sick Takedown!!! 0:50 to 0:55
@Caqui
15 жыл бұрын
True, but he is in Chute Boxe.
@BluePittbull666
14 жыл бұрын
Brasilian jiu jitsu is most effective system ever. if u have black belt in BJJ then u can even kill pro bodybuilders like jay cutler , ronnie coleman.
@magnuslebron7384
Жыл бұрын
'If BJJ was easy it would be called Overrated Khabib'
@soapsteve302
11 жыл бұрын
That's bull, in sport judo they work on more throws. In traditional Judo they focus in both submissions and throws, 50/50. Don't get your facts from watching KZitem videos.
@elenchus
5 жыл бұрын
It really just depends on your gym. In my gym we did a lot of (by judo's standards) ne waza, but in other judo gyms I went to they did almost none. Each head coach has their own strength and preferred strategy.
@SDub817
15 жыл бұрын
OK WHICH IS WHIC????
@SamCamStudios
15 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt typecast all BJJers together like that... I know my stand up is terrible, but I use the skill I have to my advantage like everyone else. Like you said, if the BJJer let the guys peel his legs off then he has a terrible guard and should practice more; which is no different than if a judoka cant throw a wrestler then he needs to practice more... I dont think one martial art is superior to another, i think an amalgamation of them is completely necessary for any real life application.
@cmMoon
14 жыл бұрын
u dont make someone tap on the street u break it or make them go unconcious
@joergus
16 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!
@rob2093124
15 жыл бұрын
only weapons and sprint speed will help with multiple people.
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
Sure and we can also conclude that Helio adn the other senior gracies are the Uncles ;-)
@deldia
14 жыл бұрын
How about you explain you explain why you're accusing me of being clueless?
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
well that simply means that you prefer one style over the other,you prefer stand up over grappling,and there is nothing wrong with that,but it is not nice at all when you insult a martial art by calling it gay,that is all i wanted to point out..oh and i totaly respect minotauro and i like his way of fighting but i would like if Cro Cop won that fight,i am croatian after all ;D
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
...and trust me,i train Bjj and i have a loooong way before mastering it but the training for Bjj can definetly make you STRONG AS HELL!!!!!! Roger Gracie ripped a sleeve of a Bjj gi from his opponent,and a Bjj gi can get run over by a train and it wont rip oO
@jimmyjam700
6 жыл бұрын
when ever jujitsu guys go into competition, they push for no punching & slamming rules.
@1MoreRoundbrother
14 жыл бұрын
Is that Dean Lister ?
@FIxt00l
15 жыл бұрын
So similar indeed.... 5 : 30 the fighter in red has a hairy chest, and is dressed in red, I would swear this is Street Fighter`s ZANGIEV undercover lmfao !
@Eldeibi84
14 жыл бұрын
Do both Sambo and BJJ if you want to be great
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@pcjudosambo i meant to say, '"I'd think so" in terms if it's better than bjj ... :-)
@tyrantskillz
15 жыл бұрын
words of wisdom
@hmoobneenja
15 жыл бұрын
even renzo gracie says that sakuraba (catch wrestling) is the "gracie of japan."
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
and the only reason why you cant win a fight without punching in modern MMA is becaouse of Bjj...when the UFC started,pure Bjj beat all martial arts.....now it is immposible becaouse every self worthy fighter knows take down defences and knows AT LEAST the basics of ground fighting...
@mohammadatif1824
Жыл бұрын
Different uniforms should be used 👀👀👀👀👀
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
Kimura?1951?ok. Bjj,sambo and Judo takedowns are all the same. No bjj fault hat blokes doesn't use the whole regimen. yOu don't see all these fancy throws in open grappling tournaments because theya re harder to do with those rules. No throwing and winning here,so guys starts to be more careful. In open grappling comps who are the champs?bjjers. In Ufc? Bjjers or people with high level bjj. No need to go to 1951 2008 has enough examples of bjj doing just well.
@initdialog
15 жыл бұрын
kurtka means jacket.
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
Oh look at 2 mins 22 secs.I guess this guys bjj school shows more than single leg takedowns.
@Five5six
16 жыл бұрын
Fact, there is no BJJ trainer in Fedor's camp, it's sheer bullshido
@SandToof
14 жыл бұрын
Well you can look it up if you like but the UFC started with the Gracies saying our style can beat any style, and they put there money where there mouth is. No bitting no eye gouging were the only rules. All in all show me a link to where bjj guys are getting there asses kicked by someone in any format other than the MMA today cause the rules they use in MMA today are geared toward the strikers and wrestlers.
@pyrojds
15 жыл бұрын
0:50 was sick
@Bithros
16 жыл бұрын
i agree that is good for ring but no for real life... sampo have magnificunt take down that you can use at real life as do the russian forces, you don't have rules outside and no referees the faster and stronger win
@Bithros
15 жыл бұрын
you know very well what i meen when i said try submissions in a bar... if you dont't let me explane you,i meant to protect your self outside in real life! and that about evil roumors are bullshit yesterday i learn from someone that you make an eye contact with your best friend ;D and i think it's true ;)
@mglshows8616
10 жыл бұрын
It is funny how both sambo and BJJ derived from Japanese Jiu Jutsu. So they must be called like: Japanese Jiu Jutsu Russian Jiu Jutsu Brazilian Jiu Jutsu
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
I am not a gracie, I care not,but bjj is cream. The figther is not ultimate weapon. But the best of purely karate, kung fu, judo, sambo anything against the best of bjj is no compare. FACT!!. The approach the philosophy is near flawless. Not bjj fault your bjj school is crap we have throws(te waza,sotemi waza etc) and takedowns classes 2 times a week. So places here never do throws.
@ilovesilvia69
16 жыл бұрын
im with ya..bjj is great for bedroom..satin sheets candles whips chains sweaty lovin
@moom8556
5 жыл бұрын
It's kinda BJJ win compilation, BJJ lose compilation is gonna be much longer 😂
@imnodog
15 жыл бұрын
werdum is bjj, not muy thai
@shogun120
15 жыл бұрын
intead of saying one is better than the other, its better to think of them as differnt pathes to the same goal. But coming from a bjj background i'm slightly bias. ~wink~
@rob2093124
15 жыл бұрын
hence "mma". very true
@afreiden
16 жыл бұрын
ezekiel choke at 3 minutes, or what?
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
Matt hughes beat Royce via kimura,ring a bell?Matt Hughes haven't won a fight in the last 4 fights.3 of those losses by bjj guys.Gomi up agains BJ Penn ring a bell. Sakuraba trained bjj with padernias and still does.Gsp be just got black belt but he had brown before that and purple(for 3 years). I started Bjj in Beverly hills jujitsu with bas.2 hours every day when his was kign of pancrase he trained bjj with Marcus vinicius and still does. randy purple belt.
@Shell1725
15 жыл бұрын
yea thats the animal
@VibePositiva1
8 жыл бұрын
BRASIL WINER
@redbulldog
15 жыл бұрын
BJJ posters are funny. What is it that compels to denounce other arts on da interweb? Confidence? It appears to be the opposite of confidence. It sounds a lot like "Wing Chun is teh deadly!" There's even a poster (way down the list) claiming Hughes beat Gracie only because of BJJ (Kimura). Ha ha. BJJ is good stuff, though. But there's something mentally broken in some of its fans.
@znjfl
16 жыл бұрын
about the strong weak person..if two persons train Bjj,one is stronger the other is weaker..the stronger one is an ox but has poor technique..the weaker one can barely lift himself but has excelent technique,the weaker one will win..if there are two persons training bjj,one stronger the other weaker,they have the same skill,and the same inteligence,the stronger one will probably win....thats the same with any martial art,but in some you can ONLY win if you are stronger... in bjj its different
@hernan267
14 жыл бұрын
el rey de los mata leones. quien es? trompadas con punteri y patadas bajas. fuertisimas. todo eso soy yo.
@eNexten
13 жыл бұрын
@MarshalNey13 yeah
@pcjudosambo
14 жыл бұрын
@billysue2 Nog's BJJ has been rated in top 5 in the world (gi and no gi) by many online publications including many BJJ black belts (e.g. Eddie Bravo). Stating that BJJ comps and ADCC have different rules is funny. Honestly, I am not even going to waste time on this debate simply because the rules are 95% identical and you can look it up yourself. You're misinformed! Out of all who compete in ADCC, in the beginning, 80% were BJJ practitioners like Rodrigo Gracie, Renzo Gracie, Sean Alvarez ...
@lampard1986
14 жыл бұрын
@pcjudosambo thats why i also train box and muay thai...if it goes 2 vs 1 i want to be ready for a brutal KO. :))
@BoricuaAltaHueso787
12 жыл бұрын
@19thaman79 Lets not forget wrestling.
@supermarito79
13 жыл бұрын
Yeah all this arguing is useless. Totally depends on the fighters....the fighters execute the discipline.
@LuqmanNaq
15 жыл бұрын
Check out the year by year results of the ADCC tournament. BJJ dominates man.
@matthewemery4205
5 жыл бұрын
I DONT CARE WHO WINS BOTH SPORTS CAN GIVE A PERSON CONFIDENCE WHEN DEALING WITH THE SCHOOL YARD BULLY
@Five5six
14 жыл бұрын
@Five5six Check out the vids from GregoryfromCali for the whole matches, this video is edited to just show the BJJ wins.
@GHRepresent
14 жыл бұрын
@daar22284 not really
@undisputedgreatest
16 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Fedor.
@rocklikebrucelee
15 жыл бұрын
no, if you're fighting multiple people, use a gun! you don't wanna be on the ground for that shit. talk about mob kicking...
@kalikaputra
16 жыл бұрын
Oh and don;t bag the gracies.All of them at your weight and skill level would beat you.Why compare others with others for compare yourself with others.
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