When Shughart and Gordon requested to be inserted to protect the second crash site their request was refused twice, but they persisted until they were given permission to go down. It's mind blowing to me that they could see exactly what they they were facing, had already offered to go but were refused and were even ordered not to go, and they had plenty of time to think about what they were doing and to reconsider, but they kept insisting until they were allowed to go. That's more than a trained reflex or acting in the heat of the moment. That's exceptional courage. The officer in command of the Delta detachment, Lt Col Gary L. Harrell (played by Steve Ford as "Cribbs" in the movie - surviving active Deltas were given fictitious names in the movie), said in an interview "They (Shughart and Gordon) knew there was nothing else to back them up. It was just them. They felt like it was so important to go that they needed to go. Where do we find men like that? It wasn’t like they just decided they’d hop off the helicopter and thought that somebody would come to their rescue. We had two helicopters down. We had the capacity to get one. We didn’t have the capacity to get two. They knew what was going on.”
@heathbar06
Жыл бұрын
They were completely worthy of getting the Medal of Honor.
@ttimlake
Жыл бұрын
Came here to make sure that this was said. Your words are accurate. Both were Delta Snipers. I'm an old Navy guy myself and a field operator. Worked with the Army in JTFs quite a bit. As I understand it: If you want something done, you give it to the Army. If you want something HARD done, you give it to the Rangers. If you want something IMPOSSIBLE done, you give it to Delta... and shit gets done. Delta will not willingly allow someone to be taken captive while they can see it happen, but in this case the numbers they faced could not be surmounted even by two of the greatest marksmen you'd want defending your position. They knew going in that it was a one-way ride, but they went anyway, because Durant's chances WITHOUT their intervention were ZERO. By selling their lives VERY DEARLY (over 2 dozen enemy dead and scores of wounded) they gave pause to advancing Somalis who took Durant captive instead of killing him outright. They were awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously and courage like theirs is the reason such an award was created. Their names will never be forgotten in my lifetime if I can help it and I thank you for shining that same light on their actions.
@Mugthraka
Жыл бұрын
Courage? You mean Balls made out of Vibranium.
@SPEEDPAINTER1
Жыл бұрын
If two men ever deserved the CMH, it was them. Rest their souls. They're my heroes.
@The..Boulder
Жыл бұрын
It's a heroic tale but it's also very sad. Nobody wants to leave the comrades behind, but when over 30 people die trying to save five... The cost was too great. Nobody wants to talk about it or say it, but they should have let those men in the helicopter die, because a casualties completely outweighed the reward
@waterbeauty85
Жыл бұрын
The real Brad Thomas was uncomfortable about including the scene when he was afraid to go back, but the director told him that it was important to show that even someone as highly trained as he was could be terrified, and that he was able to overcome his fear.
@robling1937
Жыл бұрын
That dude is wild. His interview on the team house was crazy, and after being one of the most elite soldiers in the world, he is now a rock star. That's just so wild to me.
@texastea.2734
Жыл бұрын
I mean thats what really happened, the guys did an interview and thats how the entire conversation went down
@closertotheheart
18 күн бұрын
Jeff Struecker had Brad Thomas on his podcast and they revisited that moment together, it was a really great listen.
@fromdarknesscomeslight6894
Жыл бұрын
Also, just wanted to add one more thing: Josh Hartnett is on the cover because the movie was largely told from the perspective of Chalk 4, and Josh Hartnett is the leader of Chalk 4. Obviously they needed to have some higher level perspective as well to explain the entire Battle of Mogadishu, but for the most part all the ground movements are centered around Chalk 4.
@Michael.3109
Жыл бұрын
@@fyfyi6053 Yes, I've already seen a lot of reactions from the two and George is constantly laughing. I mean, I understand that they both do reactions and that they have their own thoughts, but sometimes it's annoying that George laughs about something in almost every second scene. It's a nice guy as you say, but with certain films he could really save himself from laughing at everything and everyone.
@Knight-Bishop
Жыл бұрын
@@fyfyi6053 ...My late grandmother laughed at this sort of thing out of anxiety and atypical coping mechanisms, coming from far worse. Did she genuinely find people being blown apart and tortured amusing, or was it maybe a reaction to a movie?
@Tommi462
Жыл бұрын
@@fyfyi6053 wtf you talking about? I see some people agree, but I've never noticed it. I hope this isn't a case where now that I've read about it I start noticing it more and it starts bothering me too. 🤔 After reading this comment I kinda skipped through this reaction again and I didn't catch one laugh, though, except for one that was for a somewhat funny scene thaẗ́s kind of meant to be laughed at anyway...
@lelandvaughan4429
Жыл бұрын
@@wheresatari668 George loves learning about different events in history and movies are often his gateway to that. He reads the comments to learn more and reads articles about them after the movie. If he says 'someone tell us in the comments' he's especially interested. It's not the job of every Canadian to know every American Conflict and soldier's contributions.
@waterbeauty85
Жыл бұрын
Randy Shugart's widow asked the friend who identified his body after it had been dragged through streets and abused how bad it was (she had seen some terrible casualties before as a nurse), and he told her that she wouldn't have been able to recognize him. One of the Somali witnesses who didn't know what was going on with the battle saw some other Somalis beating one of the American bodies. He begged them to stop and told them that defiling the dead is against Islam, and they told him to leave or they would kill him.
@bigboi9877
10 ай бұрын
Dude shut the fuck up and stop dickriding delta. Its always a single person like you in the comments “ermergerd gordon and shugaurt make me so horny let me tell you all about them”. You are cringe as fuck.
@JohnPaul-ux4kp
Жыл бұрын
Another big star in this movie that you might've missed was Tom Hardy. He was one of the two that had to go looking for their unit. Also Lucius Malfoy was Capt. Steele.
@JeffKelly03
Жыл бұрын
I never realized Tom Hardy was in this. And I only just now realized, in watching the reaction, that the third guy that joins them is freaking Scotty Smalls from The Sandlot.
@Jumpman67
Жыл бұрын
Nobody cared who he was til he put on the mask.
@Malum09
Жыл бұрын
Funny how he was in both This and Band Of Brothers
@rosshall6475
Жыл бұрын
A lot of Brits in this movie
@CaptainEnglehorn
Жыл бұрын
@@Jumpman67 which is ironic because the Dark Knight Rises is one of the worst movies he is in. Not his fault. Just shit film. And yes I know he was in Star Trek Nemesis. Dark Knight Rises is worse
@waterbeauty85
Жыл бұрын
22:36 The real Danny McKnight consciously resisted showing any fear because he believed that if his soldiers saw his losing his cool, they could lose heart and fall apart emotionally. He deliberately walked upright rather than run and duck which, interestingly enough, is a long tradition among British officers for much the same reason . The 5th Earl of Longford famously said "Don't bother ducking. The men don't like it, and it doesn't do any good" before being killed at the Battle of Gallipoli, and Winston Churchill said "It's no use ducking. The bullets have already passed you." The Linybeige channel has a very good video about this tradition called "British Officers Don't Duck?"
@carlossaraiva8213
Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt put too much tryst in linybeige. For a guy who is supposed to be versed in history he was a brexit supporter. No one who truly knows history would be a brexiteer.
@madpaduk
Жыл бұрын
There are a couple of famous stories about British officers from the World Wars. One about the officer who kicked a football across no man's land when his troops went "over the top" to distract them from the bullets coming at them. The other was in "A Bridge Too Far" where an officer always carried an umbrella because he could never remember the passwords to get back onto base.
Жыл бұрын
It's also a long tradition among British officers to be useless shits.
@peterpike
Жыл бұрын
@@carlossaraiva8213 -- Clearly, the fact that you judge someone by their politics is evidence enough you have no clue what YOU are talking about. You just made me trust Lindybeige completely.
@rsrt6910
Жыл бұрын
@@carlossaraiva8213 That sounds like complete loony toons reasoning. Next time someone offers you an MRi to check for brain tumors, you should take it.
@ravissary79
Жыл бұрын
This is Somalia, it's not a straight up war, its a very limited engagement to deal specifically just with certain warlords in a humanitarian crisis. There's loads of stuff they can't do here. They have to be brief and surgical. Optics are important.
@MikeB12800
Жыл бұрын
It was a U.N. mission.
@ravissary79
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeB12800 yup. That's why they were se to get peacekeepers to help with the armored vehicle rescue, but there was some... incivility associated with the lack of camaraderie between the forces.
@bluebird3281
Жыл бұрын
Optics are important to who? And why are they more important then American lives and success of the mission?
@ravissary79
Жыл бұрын
@@bluebird3281 "optics... why are they more important than American lives and the mission." Who says they are? You're underestimating the complexity of the situation. Yes, to an extent its a purely political theater to deny the use of AC130 gunships. But thats because a mission like the one in Somalia is inherently political, because the problem is partly political. We didn't go in to invade Somalia. It wasn't about destroying the country or defeating its people. It was a humanitarian crisis that hit the roadblock of the difficultly of stopping the warlords from perpetuating said crisis for their own ends. All actions against said warlord needed to be as surgical and minimal in footprint as possible because of the fact that the armed forces wanted to avoid the appearance of invading and thus lose the good will of those we tried to work with against the warlord. It was also a UN sanctioned action, so we had to follow cer6ain international limits on engagement within a mixed theater. Other armies are present as well and they represent different takes on the problem. It's inherently a weak position but one that many in the states still felt was the right thing morally. The loss of American lives could have hypothetically been averted by the use of more forces and dedicated AC-139 gunship support, but there's no guarantee that this would have actually prevented the blackhawks from going down. It's still a complex theater and the guy who fell still fell in a way no one could have predicted. The Somali use of on the ground intel was faster than we thought, and reprisals were swifter than predicted. In some ways one could say we just shouldn't have been there to begin with, but the administration at the time really wanted foreign policy to reflect a kind of global concensus in preventing the escalation of regional conflicts to the point that they become unchecked humanitarian atrocities akin to the "killing fields" or the holocaust. Obviously a less interventionist view would have never committed us to such a goal, but once there, trying to act in as valiant and competent way as possible despite the limits placed on us is commensurate with the larger mission of armed service... correct?
@captainchaos3667
Жыл бұрын
Would you say it was a special military operation?
@alfredstimoli2590
Жыл бұрын
This was Eric Bana's breakout Hollywood role. At the time Eric was known as a stand up comedian but had acted in two Australian movies. Russell Crowe recommended him to Ridley Scott who employed him without and audition. The rest is history.
@TheNativeEngine
Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting him to have started his performance career as a comedian. I only saw hom as an actor. Wild.
@traviscue2099
Жыл бұрын
He's a far better comedian imo. But his best acting role will always be Chopper.. Damn brilliant film.
@kingleech16
11 ай бұрын
I loved him in "The Castle", but then again, I love everything about that movie.
@LokRevenant
Жыл бұрын
“Where’s the rescue squad?” We’re it. Nothing but complete respect for Shughart and Gordon. Absolute Legends.
@markpekrul4393
Жыл бұрын
The images of dead servicemen being roughly carried through the streets of Mogadishu were a source of great national pain when it happened. This is truly a great film.
@EnigmaticPenguin
Жыл бұрын
The book is really worth a read. The crazy thing about the movie is that the horror of the event is toned down.
@NoctisCantet
Жыл бұрын
Wayyyy toned down. The first time I looked into my jaw dropped more and more on how graphic it got in this
@waterbeauty85
Жыл бұрын
18:12 Air Force Pararescue Jumper (PJ) Timothy A. Wilkinson received the Air Force Cross (second highest award for valor for Air Force personnel) for his actions during the Battle of Mogadishu. He had to run back and forth between the buildings while under fire to treat the wounded. The other soldiers joked that he didn't get hit because the Somalis didn't realize what an slow runner he was and were firing to far ahead of him as he ran, and one of the Rangers, seeing "Wilkie," run back and forth and survive, said "God really loves medics.
@AFMountaineer2000
2 ай бұрын
I had a chance encounter and met him roughly 8 months after arriving at my first duty station in 2000
@BlackHeartGames
Жыл бұрын
This movie perfectly encapsulates an old military saying, "No plan survives contact with the enemy".
@thegunslinger1363
Жыл бұрын
The scene with the Black Hawks and MH-6s flying in formation is epic. Not to mention the incredible score from Hans Zimmer
@CloudJL
Жыл бұрын
I literally listen to the soundtrack too
@sfisabbt
Жыл бұрын
The melancholic song that comes both at the beginning and at the end of the movie is Gortoz a Ran by Denez Prijent. It is sung in the regional language Breton from western France and talks about someone in a dark place in his life waiting and hoping for an external event to take him away, with a lot of references to coastal wild nature, rain and wind. The text is very poetic, full of inspiring images and very open to interpretation. The second voice is by Lisa Gerard who also sings the main theme from the movie Gladiator. It is such a beautiful song.
@batbrick3949
Жыл бұрын
The code words were systematic. Female names for air phases of the operation, male for ground phases. Each was sequenced alphabetic. So, the prep and planning was probably something like Alex, the air recon was Barbara, staging in the helicopters was Edward. Then, takeoff was Irene.
@Rob-eo5ql
Жыл бұрын
“All units: Irene. I say again: Irene.” One of my favorite lines in the movie.
@joshuasantana685
Жыл бұрын
Irene also means “Peace”
@Rob-eo5ql
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuasantana685 interesting
@rsrt6910
Жыл бұрын
@@Rob-eo5ql "Fuckin' Irene!"
@Rob-eo5ql
Жыл бұрын
@@rsrt6910 “IIIIIRRRRENNNEE!” lol
@RezaREX
Жыл бұрын
Delta is considered a Tier 1 SMU (special mission unit) under the command of JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command along with units like Seal Team 6) while Rangers (and Special Forces) are considered Tier 2 special operations units still under Army control. Delta will accept recruits from any branch of the military but primarily recruit from Rangers and Special Forces. Delta is also not officially recognized as existing by the Army thus its many nicknames (The Unit, CAG(Combat Applications Group), Delta.
@thegunslinger1363
Жыл бұрын
90% of the best US soldiers don't make it through the initial phase of selection. Those guys are as tough as nails.
@michaelkirk4056
Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Tiers aren't based on how elite they are. The whole 'tier' thing is misunderstood by people that have never served and rely on video games. Tiers are budgetary. Technically, a Navy Carrier Group is Tier 1. If you are talking about special operations unit budgets, the Ranger Regiment would have a higher budget than Delta and DEVGRU combined. So they'd be Tier 1 in that mix. But we don't really care as long as the job gets done. Play all the video games you like. Rangers are now doing missions that only 20 years ago were considered Delta only. And no SOF JTF works without using the Ranger Regiment as the backbone, which is why we have stood up two new Batts in recent years. SOCOM and JSOC don't work in a battlespace without Regiment. And Delta is recognized by the rest of the Army. Read this public Congressional testimony by General Downing in 2006. He talks about them five times, on camera. I'd say that's recognition. www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg33596/html/CHRG-109hhrg33596.htm Ex- B Co 3/75.
@kiranpunnoose2441
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget, the 24th Special Tactics Squadron of the US Air Force is also a Tier-1 SMU and part of JSOC.
@joshuaortiz2031
Жыл бұрын
They also work alongside the CIA in missions that the government does not acknowledge
@Murchad99
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkirk4056 What the OP said isn't "incorrect", it just benefits from additional explanation.
@setenos2439
Жыл бұрын
From my experience in Afghanistan: We received a little card with common phrases but never had to use it. Generally you just use body motion, pointing, or other physical symbology to indicate your intent. It's surprisingly good as a universal language for basic things (move, stay down/back, come here, yes/no).
@edwardsummey8843
Жыл бұрын
I still remember Serb/Croat for "Stop or I'll shoot!" Learned it back in 1996.
@NavsangeetSingh
Жыл бұрын
Yeah when the dude with a big gun shouts at you and points downwards, I think most people would get the idea.
@nickmitsialis
Жыл бұрын
on a quieter sort of note, John Plaster wrote in his 'SOG' war memoirs that, even though they had interpreters, often, when they were on an op in Laos, making noise was a major no no, so the whole team practiced a form of sign language, so they could 'sign' that they saw men or a trail or a bunker complex. Even without knowing their language, they could make themselves understood in a prehistoric man 'pre speech' kind of way. Of course, all that went out the window if you got into contact with the NVA>
@Tullaryx
Жыл бұрын
While the Rangers may have been taught basic Somali phrases, the Delta members assigned to Operation Gothic Serpent (official name for the Mogadishu mission) would've been well-versed in the local language to be able to converse with local contacts and informants. Since Delta recruited heavily from the Green Berets (who learned the local languages of the area they were assigned to) the practice followed suit.
@YekouriGaming
Жыл бұрын
But every Murican speaks Murican in movies, even tho it makes little sense. Even if English is someones 2nd/3rd language they would still be confused by someone yelling in that language, that they would like miss what was said.
@JayM409
Жыл бұрын
My son was given phrase books when he was in Afghanistan.
@josephg.1.130
Жыл бұрын
@@YekouriGaming it makes alot of sense, its easier for casual viewership
@YekouriGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@josephg.1.130 Well yearh, but the Somali people are speaking Somalian with subtitles anyway?
@josephg.1.130
Жыл бұрын
@@YekouriGaming and?
@TenTonNuke
Жыл бұрын
Oof. I always get the PTSD twitches when I watch this movie. It's the most accurate modern warfare movie that I've seen. The frustrating chain of command, main base giving you instructions that are completely useless, the seemingly infinite number of enemies who can just drop their gun into a bush and technically become civilians, feeling like the whole country is against you. 15 months of that and you're just supposed to go back home and starting working some 9-5 job stocking shelves? They also got the sound of someone shooting at you correct. It's a very identifiable high pitched whine. I had a bullet punch a hole through the front of my helmet cover and out the back. My face was in somebody's crosshairs.
@DestinyAwaits19
Жыл бұрын
I heard they show this movie at recruit training facilities.
@stimbeh
Жыл бұрын
Randy Shughart and Gary Gordon. Played by Johnny Strong, and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. Medal of honor recipients. True heroes.
@sevatar5762
Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard the “timing” of this movie get mentioned by others before but I’ve always seen it differently. In 1999 saving private ryan was released and it literally redefined the War movie as we know it. As a result everyone wanted to make a gritty realistic war movie. In quick Succession we got movies like enemy at the gate, wind talkers, the thin red line, we were soldiers, black hawk down, flags of our fathers etc. The early 2000s was the period where war movies were being released on mass. Not just in the US either. This period saw Taeguki from korea, 9th company from russia and Downfall from Germany. It has been suggested that Black hawk down was propaganda for what was happening at the time. It’s often forgotten though that this was the same time spielberg had literally just redefined an entire genre, paving the way for a completely new generation of war movies. Also what was happening around that time is kinda irrelevant as they had finished filming two months before 9/11 had even happened. So there is literally no way they could of intended the movie be used for morale / public support.
@Starbuckanear2012
Жыл бұрын
War movies are ALWAYS propaganda. The advertising was pure American exceptionalism porn. At the time, and even today it's treated as one of the few unambiguous stories of American military heroism in 21st Century film, but given the context of what led up to this event it would've been propagandistic even without the event that preceded its release.
@peepapeeps
Жыл бұрын
@@Starbuckanear2012 You watched that movie and that's your take away from it??? I don't know how you can see the botched mismanaged cluster train wreck of a mission continuously devolving before our eyes all the while people dying left and right for nothing and call it propaganda. Propaganda for what how to die senselessly?
@bluebird3281
Жыл бұрын
@@carlevans8825 As if there is a better system. I imagine that the Conoco corporate compound must have had pretty good infrastructure and was a useful strategic location. Does producing oil make them evil somehow? Were the omitted pro American Somali forces involved in the black hawk down incident? There were U.N armored cars rescuing the American troops, were those not the Malaysians? When you say food was making it to the Somali people do you mean other than the followers of Aidid? Are you suggesting the Aidid should have been allowed to control those shipping lanes? Would not the DOD have all perinate details needed for the script? What makes you say there wasn't a need for 30,000 troops for humanitarian aid? How was Bush sending them after he lost the election "the biggest political issue"? Clinton could have reversed it; do you think 30,000 troops were already there before Clinton was sworn in 50 or less days later. The biggest political issue was Clinton no allowing them to use armor for the mission because it was "too high profile. Anyone can practice propaganda, why is your propaganda somehow better?
@michaelw8262
Жыл бұрын
Something else to keep in mind is the unique media coverage the entire Somali conflict had, to the extent that CNN correspondents were waiting for US Marines on the beach when they arrived. It was covered differently than any conflict had been up to that point and therefore the public had different perceptions of it than other relatively small military interventions. Here's a clip of the on-beach coverage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/uaBvrKJpqnledqw
@MetalDetroit
Жыл бұрын
@@Starbuckanear2012 Guess we should have let the genocide and mass starvation go on….
@TK-hw2ph
Жыл бұрын
I saw this movie when I was 7, not long after 9/11. I didn’t know that a decade later I would serve in this unit, but it has been the greatest honor of my life. This is a movie, and it’s impossible to show the real level of violence and brutality that occurred that day Edit: to answer George’s question- Rangers are a Tier 2 special operations unit tasked with forcible entry and direct action raids. They often operate along side delta force and navy seals. Rangers are used as a sledge hammer for socom, if you got a problem that needs to be gone tomorrow, that’s who you send
@sdv73168
Жыл бұрын
I have only one question... Why were you watching this movie at age 7?
@TK-hw2ph
Жыл бұрын
@@sdv73168 I was born in the 90’s I walked 6 blocks to school at 5 years old. Parental supervision was rare.
@michaelkirk4056
Жыл бұрын
What Batt were you in? I was B Co 3/75. Got out in 91.
@TK-hw2ph
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkirk4056 I was B co. 3/75 2013-2020 RLTW
@michaelkirk4056
Жыл бұрын
@@TK-hw2ph : Outstanding. Common point of reference, first guy I met was RSM Rick Merritt when I checked in from RIP. He was on CQ and smoking a cigarette on top of the company steps. He has just pinned on his E-5 or E-6 as he was still wearing pin ons and hadn't had time to go to town and get his shit sewn on. He just smiled and pointed me in the right direction. I ended up in 2nd Platoon. He was always willing to help anyone out and get them squared away even if they weren't in his platoon. Very nice guy, awesome leader. And yes, the rumours of him doing ruck runs around Lawson in his bare feet are 100% true. :) This is when we were on Way Street across from Peden Field, not the Club Med the guys are in now. :) You have no idea how good you had it in that new compound. Me and few others from back in the day went down for the 25th activation ceremony of 3/75 and were blown away at the facilities. All we could say through most of the tour was "Holy Shit!". Truly awesome. You guys definitely deserved it. A couple of us tried to track Merritt down when we arrived but his C-5 or C-17 was literally taxiing for take off from Lawson when we got down to the bottom of Cardiac Hill. Missed him by about ten minutes. We were bummed out, but a bunch of us still stay in touch with him.
@TazorNissen
Жыл бұрын
Many of the pilots, who helped make the movie, was there during the real mission and knew the pilots of the crashed helicopters.
@supernicko123
Жыл бұрын
Shughart and Gordon both were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for their actions. When I was in the Army, I got to train in a mock town that was built for urban warfare training at Fort Polk, LA, and it was named after Shughart and Gordon. It is a pretty sobering thing to train in that environment.
@MatthewMortensen1
Жыл бұрын
The movie they were watching with Steve Martin is called The Jerk and it is awesome. Definitely worth watching.
@Algernon7
Жыл бұрын
HE HATES THESE CANS!
@robertcorbett9455
Жыл бұрын
I was born a poor black child...
@waterbeauty85
Жыл бұрын
The character of Grimes is based on a real person, but the real person ended up going to prison for something very disgusting, so the name was changed.
@HildegardActual
Жыл бұрын
"Is there a moment in U.S. history where the country isn't in some sort of conflict?" 225 out of 243 years since 1776 have been wartime. Those of us that come from families with longstanding traditions of military service can mark generations by the wars they served in. It is, at this point a part of our culture. There will always be those that don't want us to intervene in another nation's quest to attain liberty, but there are also many of us that cannot imagine doing anything else. This is not to say all our conflicts have been legitimate, but there were many that soldiers felt a duty not only to our home but to the oppressed people in the lands we have occupied. For example Afghanistan, or Iraq for many of us that served in the Global War on Terror.
@axx6435
Жыл бұрын
I was there both before and again months after this event when I was in the Marine Corps. They certainly got the look of the Somalia right.
@woof9408
Жыл бұрын
When I was deployed in 2005 Command Sergeant Major Gallagher was our 1st Brigade CSM in the 3rd Infantry Division. He was there for our combat patch ceremony. His character is not in the movie but he fought and was wounded during this battle. All the guys were in awe of this legend. Sadly he passed away in 2014. P.S. hot brass under the collar sucks
@albinorhino6
Жыл бұрын
Cliff “Elvis” Wolcott, the pilot of the first Black Hawk that crashed, was already a living legend amongst Army chopper pilots after his flying in Desert Storm. As his Black Hawk was going down, he made a last minute correction so the helicopter went in nose first, sacrificing himself to try to save the guys in the back.
@NathanJasper
Жыл бұрын
Definitely add 13 Hours to your watchlist. Such a great film. John Krasinski is fantastic.
@belfire777
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@jculver1674
Жыл бұрын
Excellent movie. Hacksaw Ridge is another must-watch.
@pete_lind
Жыл бұрын
@@photobackflip Battle Beneath the Earth (1967) your typical anti China propaganda during Vietnam war ... i think its still on YT , as all quality movies .
@nickmitsialis
Жыл бұрын
@@photobackflip Nah, I'll watch 'Branded Women' or 'Battle of Neretva' instead.
@A-small-amount-of-peas
Жыл бұрын
The movie the guy who had the fit was watching is called "The Jerk" PLEASE add it to your list. Steve Martin back when he was still zany in the 70's. Still regarded as a classic comedy and it's also kinda sweet
@spinynorman887
Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI about Rangers: These guys are HARD! Their entire training regimen is geared toward a goal of 72 hours nonstop combat. The annual Best Ranger competition is a 72 hour contest where the contestants go straight from one event to the next, only stopping to change socks or restock ammo and water. They eat when the can, often during an event. Their physical training is unequaled.
@timcook6566
Жыл бұрын
As a soldier at home when this was happening, it was heartbreaking to watch our fallen being dragged through the streets on live tv
@jeraldard5710
Жыл бұрын
Same thing here, watching it at Ft. Campbell and seeing no response afterwards.
@joelwillis2043
Жыл бұрын
The macho actor that played the American general is none other than Sam Shepard, RIP. He was a very accomplished playwright and many considered the best of his generation.
@dsfddsgh
Жыл бұрын
This movie was not made as a response to 9/11 it was filmed months before 9/11 happened.
@dabegmister
Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite military movie of all time now some people will complain that it's not like the book will screw them because it's pretty accurate there are a few things that are dramatized but I've been fascinated with this battle my entire life and I've done hours and hours of research I've watched videos and documentaries from soldiers that were there that approve of this movie and some that were there to help guide the movie. The movie is not just about the book it is based on actual events and predict them very well
@spddracer
Жыл бұрын
The two snipers that go in to help the second helicopter where both awarded the Medal of Honor. Our nations highest military honor.
@Heegaherger
Жыл бұрын
When I was deployed for OIF I, we were taught half a dozen phrase in Arabic; some of which I still remember. Hot brass; the pain is real.
@arklytte
Жыл бұрын
4:10 Rangers are a part of the US Army. They're infantry, but they're much more extensively trained than 'standard' infantry. They do air and water insertions into hostile territory, as scouts or quick strike units. One of their most common jobs is to back up units like the Navy SEALs or Delta (who, if you dont know, are highly specialized and trained special forces, basically the pinnacle of badass soldiers). Rangers are sent out in regular sized units, so you often have a whole platoon backing up a small unit of Delta, like in the movie (ie there were a dozen or so Delta and *multiple dozens* of Rangers). They're not as well trained as, say, Navy SEALs, but they are, by and large, much better operators than regular soldiers.
@numbersasaname2291
Жыл бұрын
I’m excited that you two are finally getting to this movie. I was not there, but everyone in the army at the time (such as moi) knew guys who were there. Mike Steele (he was the company commander) and I went through IOBC, Airborne school and Ranger school together. Later in the 90s I served in the same battalions as several NCOs and troops who were there. I only watch reactions to this movie now - reactors who were either too young at the time or who weren’t born yet - because this movie always pisses me off. This was a screwed up mission which should never have happened for many reasons. The movie does a good job at capturing the mistakes made and the reality of our military under the Clinton Administration if the viewer is paying very close attention to both the action and the dialogue. Having inside knowledge also helps. Brand new infantry officers at Infantry Officer Basic Course (IOBC) and new infantry captains at Infantry Officer Advanced Course (IOAC) spend a lot of time learning and gaming former battles as part of their training. THIS ACTION is ignored … funny how that happens! Even at Command and General Staff College (CGSC) at Ft. Leavenworth, at least when I went through after this action happened, also seemed to avoid any Lessons Learned reviews of this battle. And we see the results of that in the early stages in Iraq and Afghanistan. For those who knew Mike Steele from the beginning, this movie shows the change that happened in him. The guy portrayed (accurately) here and the colonel who would later (rightly) be relieved of command in Iraq WAS NOT the Mike Steele I knew. In any case, I am glad that you reacted to this movie. 😊
@Stevarooni
Жыл бұрын
The military spends a lot of money on historians and after-action analysis, and subsequently ignores anything that doesn't fit in with top brass' prejudices and pet theories.
@15blackshirt
Жыл бұрын
This was adapted from the Mark Bowden novel of the same name. The HBO miniseries Generation Kill is similar in style to this, and was adapted from its novel counterpart. Other films similar to this are American Sniper, Lone Survivor and 13 Hours
@XenaWarrior24
Жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: Orlando Bloom had infact broken his back falling off a roof/terrace in 1998 when he was 1998. He was told he may never walk again. Then he filmed LOTR and filmed this movie Black Halwk Down, where his character falls from the Helicopter and breaks his back. So ironically enough he knew exactly what that experience would be like.
@martinbraun1211
Жыл бұрын
Please watch the STAR TREK movies! 🖖
@philshorten3221
Жыл бұрын
Please watch the original TV series first 😉
@ericlaw171
Жыл бұрын
Rangers are an elite force in the Army. They are a step below special forces, but still very highly regarded. They use rangers for big, loud, and important missions like this. Special forces are used for more specialized, covert missions that requires tact and precision.
@RicoRaynn
Жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone who's been in the US Army for 21 years as an infantryman (57 months deployed to 'combat zones'), no. There is no year where the US hasn't been involved in some sort of conflict. Politicians like to use different words. Police actions. Security assignments. Joint training missions. But all of them usually revolve around some sort of conflict. Some, like the Pacific theater, aren't as 'direct action' for our personnel. Namely because the 'bad guys' focus on the indigenous forces more than the US ones. Some, like Afghanistan, Iraq, or Africa has US forces mixing it up on an almost monthly basis. But none of that is 'news worthy' to a deafened western public. Which while very naive, is also kind of the point of having military personnel operating around the globe. The fact that some 30 year old housewife doesn't generally have to worry about being abducted while going to the supermarket (like most of Africa deals with) is kind of the whole idea. It's also why America is s damn good at waging war and it the ONLY nation who has proven to have global force projection. Military might is about one of the only massive exports the US still has to be honest. Somalia during this time was a disaster for the US and reshaped the way we approach Africa relations. Brave men left out to dry because of political choices. Even more ironic was the fact that we caused all the tribal warfare because we flooded the country with weaponry during the Cold War to counter Russian backed elements. Just one big circle clusterfuck. Rangers are also the first level of SOCOM forces. While their mission set is vastly similar to the normal infantry ground pounders, they usually receive a higher level of training, better equipment, and deal with less bullshit detail crap, which leaves them more time to train and be proficient at waging war. So, think of them as advanced infantry Battalions or 'shock troops'. They still focus on the battalion/company size direct action fight (unlike SF or Delta which has a whole different mission set) but Rangers are basically the top tier of that ability. Also don't get confused with those being 'ranger qualified' (which means they attended Ranger school and earned the tab) and the 'Batt Boys', which are the ones in Blackhawk Down. These are the guys who serve in the three Ranger Battalions (75th Ranger regiment). Budget is a major issue for the US military believe it or not. But our offensive mission sets are always tailored (if we can) around us having a 3-1odd ratio. Granted, reality isn't always forgiving in this department and you're forced to adapt, but that's the base level guidelines. When entering a theater of operations, most Soldiers are provided with a 'phrase book' which highlights common phrases in the local language. Which can be a huge boon if a Soldier takes it seriously. One of my old company commanders was a former SF operator and spoke both Farsi and Arabic flawlessly. The rapport that man built while dealing with locals was unreal and was personally responsible for a lot of the success our unit had in 03-05 and 07-09. The 'rocket launchers' are Russian made RPGs (rocket propelled grenades). The ones here were the RPG-7s. The projectile charge ranged from 40 to 150 mm with a rocket in the rear that increased its range from 150 to 500 meters. The warhead could pierce through 320 mm of armor and when it first launched in the late 60's it caused the US a lot of headaches. But they are also prone to malfunctions and require some user knowledge on operation. I had one bounce off the hood of my HUMVEE in early '04 because the shooter forgot to pull the warhead's pin prior to firing it or it simply malfunctioned (we think). Being that it flew another 170 meters after the ricochet before blowing we could never verify. MSG Gordon and SFC Shughart last stand to save pilot Michael Durant was heroism at it's finest. They killed over 25 of the enemy while wounding countless others. Both were awarded the Medal of Honor.
@caseymoe816
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding, informative shit. Both harrowing yet full of truth. Thank you for the breakdown and for your valiant service.🪖
@raydurz
Жыл бұрын
The Delta Force guys were absolute bad asses. Also an AC-130 gunship could have been really useful as it could have laid down a lot of accurate, pinpoint destruction from a relatively safe altitude. If I remember correctly, what happened in Somalia cost the Secretary of Defense his job partially because he refused to allow the AC-130s to be used there.
@mobiusbelts3607
Жыл бұрын
were!?
@K3V1N117
Жыл бұрын
The book actually debates whether or not that would have made it worse or better. Iirc the book says that interviews with soldiers there say that the little birds did what they were tasked and that wasn’t a determining factor of the the mission outcome. Surprised me reading it because I thought for sure that was a point the book was going to make.
@woeshaling6421
Жыл бұрын
not a munitions expert, but an ac130 sounds a little overkill in an urban civilian area of operations.
@Heegaherger
Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when politicians run military ops, they turn into cluster **cks.
@JeffKelly03
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this movie in years, and forgot just how absurdly intense it is. Also, I believe Jeremy Piven actually learned to fly a helicopter for this film, if I'm not mistaken.
@benjauron5873
Жыл бұрын
He certainly mastered piloting a helicopter a lot better than he mastered playing Scrabble!
@rsrt6910
Жыл бұрын
All the actors went through a couple weeks of training with their respective military counterparts. Most went through abreiviated ranger training, learning how to fire and use weapons, some went with delta force and learned how to use explosives to blow open doors and such and the actors playing the pilots spent a week in a blackhawk simulator.
@testfire3000
Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Simone, she looked more than a little shell shocked and a bit queasy there. She even said one scene made her light headed. Honestly I understand, I appreciate a well made movie and some of them can be very graphic.
@meadmaker4525
Жыл бұрын
U.S. Army Rangers mission and purpose: The Rangers' primary mission is to engage the enemy in close combat and direct-fire battles. This mission includes direct-action operations, raids, personnel and special equipment recovery in addition to conventional or special light-infantry operations. They're considered spec-ops, but closer to specialized infantry than the more highly clandestine Delta force, which equates more closely with U.S. Navy Seals, Marine Force Recon, etc.
@nickyarbrough8392
Жыл бұрын
4:10 George asks what Rangers are and what they do Rangers (as in the 75th Ranger Regiment, which is what we're talking about in the context of this movie - "Ranger" is also a broad designation that can be used to anyone who has gotten through Ranger school, regardless of what unit they're in) are a light infantry special operations force. They do perimeter security for higher tier special operations units (like what you see in the film) as well as reconnaissance, raids, air assaults from helicopters, jumps from planes, etc. It wouldn't be inaccurate to think of them as the "entry level" for Army special operations, although it's rather more complicated than that. Rangers generally don't have the same level of training that Army Special Forces (aka Green Berets) or Delta Force have, but each unit has a different mission and a specific function. The Rangers are generally the least selective of the army special operations but are still considered an elite force. They also tend to be individually younger than Special Forces and especially Delta.
@cjbrown7745
Жыл бұрын
4:04 The Rangers in this movie are the soldiers from 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. The 75th Ranger Regiment is a light infantry, special-operations capable unit that is attached to the Army's Special Operations Command, alongside the "actual" Army's Special Forces (aka the Green Berets). They are like the Army's elite shock troops that are called upon for specific and highly dangerous missions that a regular Army infantry unit might not be able to accomplish. Although their missions and capabilities are very different, they can be compared to the Army's Green Berets, the Navy SEALs and the Marine Corps' Force Recon and MARSOC Raiders.
@digidv85
Жыл бұрын
This remains my favorite war movie set in modern times. Saw it in theaters, was absolutely captivated.
@bernhardtsen74
Жыл бұрын
same! I got it on bluray, the hottest sound editing, up there with Saving Private Ryan! I keep rewinding listening to the rotor blades hitting the ground when they crash the 1st helicopter! I love the way Ridley Scott films his stuff too!
@azuresentry815
Жыл бұрын
The Blackhawk is the most common US Army utility helicopter. It serves a lot of different roles in various configs (and other branches use additional variants like the Navy Seahawk or Coast Guard Jayhawk). They are classed as a medium helo, so not the biggest but also not the smallest.
@azuresentry815
Жыл бұрын
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Biggest could be measured a few different ways but I would generally agree for US Army helos the chinook is the biggest. Not the largest in the US inventory though, that's the 53 series by just about every measure. None of those in Army service though.
@mattdellarosa7365
Жыл бұрын
Simone's intros are one of the main reasons I keep watching. Lol
@JoeCensored
Жыл бұрын
I remember when this was on the news. They showed the snipers dragged through the streets on the evening news. I didn't understand how serious the battle was until the movie came out.
@joshuacampbell7493
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of Military, please watch Hacksaw Ridge after this. It's Incredible True Story. Besides you'll see Andrew Garfield for the fourth time.
@xsas8731
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of Eric Bana, you guys ever watched Troy from 2004? 🤔
@AtomixIGN
Жыл бұрын
Kind of some gross flippant commentary here on the US military here. Internal civil war caused the Somali government to collapse and the United Nations went in because there were 300,000 people dead. A warlord, crime boss, started executing UN inspectors and the Americans were charged with capturing or killing him. When you hear 300,000 people were killed you say "somebody should do something!". By the time this is over there was more than 500,000 dead. What does optics mean? "Has America ever gone a whole year without a war?!" About a year after this 600,000 people were killed with machetes clubs and small arms in Rwanda. 250,000+ women were raped. Nobody did anything. Because people were making comments like "has America ever gone a whole year without a war?" And nobody else cared or wanted to get lumped in. The name for saying somebody should do something but not doing anything because you're afraid of how it would look in the media is "Somali syndrome" it's also known as "I want to help. But I'm not going to."
@adamantiumrage
Жыл бұрын
THIS. How about Canada steps up and handles some international affairs.
@AtomixIGN
Жыл бұрын
@@adamantiumrage Oh no, you wouldn't want that. The Canadians historically have been the most brutal troops in the formerly British Empire. Not only against the Amerindian tribes - whom they brutalized to a Chris Columbus level(my Grammy was kidnapped by the whiteman and sent to Indian School) and against the Americans in the war of 1812- but famously against the Germans for executing the wounded, prisoners, and in a few cases - laming the prisoners and executing them a few days later. Modern Canada has great refugee settlement and relocation programs. Its just... one thing to give a battered woman a new place to live, and anothe to go back to her house later that night to grab that ONE thing she forgot with a a buddy and a bat.
@stonepasta5296
Жыл бұрын
The scene near the end, where an old man crosses the street carrying a dead child is haunting.
@K3V1N117
Жыл бұрын
Happened IRL too
@fromdarknesscomeslight6894
Жыл бұрын
4:04 Regarding the military units involved: The Army Rangers are the US Army's special operations force. It's a fairly small light infantry force (compared to the Army at-large) designed to do raids that kill or capture high value targets. They can deploy in less than a day, so it's designed to be a small, fast taskforce that gets in, gets the job done, then gets out; as opposed to fighting big fights with lots of casualties and attrition. Delta Force is similar, but it's a special forces detachment, which means they operate either solo or in small squads for reconnaissance, rescuing hostages, direct action (e.g. when they captured the general at the beginning and brought him back to the ranger staging), etc. The Rangers and Delta are commonly paired together. The main difference between the two is the Army Rangers has a larger operational structure and more soldiers working together, versus Delta Force tends to be either solo or with a few others. You see this later in the movie where the Ranger squad starts calling Delta "cowboys" for making independent decisions, rather than waiting for instructions from the commander.
@richardstephens5570
Жыл бұрын
@Ben Franklin Wrong. Rangers have master breachers, who are experts with explosives to use on doors, walls and barriers to allow a Ranger assault team access the objective. The Rangers are specialists in conducting raids and assault missions deep inside enemy territory, not every Ranger mission involves Delta Force.
@kevincawley2458
Күн бұрын
8:04 the pilots for this helicopter unit are not your average run of the mill pilots. They are world renowned for their skill. Most guy get in a helicopter and fly it like you'd drive a car, these guys strap the helicopter on and it becomes an extension of their body.
@PatrickBudderocks
Жыл бұрын
That Steve Martin movie they were watching is "The Jerk". Very hilarious movie you should consider adding to your watch list!
@jareddmunoz
Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend watching "The Outpost" on Netflix ASAP. (It will be removed Sept. 30). It's a fantastic modern warfare movie about the battle of Kamdesh and has Orlando Bloom, Scott Eastwood and Caleb Landry Jones (Banshee from XMen First Class). Even if you don't do a reaction, it's a solid movie to just watch. Edit: Rangers are a special forces branch of the army.
@clitcommander1681
Жыл бұрын
Send to the top
@vmi02raven
Жыл бұрын
Also recommend for realistic modern mitary films "13 Hours."
@Malo-Hombre71
Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that movie yet but my cousin's son is in that movie. He was given more screen time and he had pictures of being at the director's house for a superbowl party with Scott Eastwood. He really served in Afghanistan too, I'm guessing he'd be the only Latino soldier who has lines
@jareddmunoz
Жыл бұрын
@@Malo-Hombre71 is that Daniel Rodriguez?
@Malo-Hombre71
Жыл бұрын
His name is Ernest Cavazos, I don't know what his character's name in the movie was
@tdrewman
Жыл бұрын
I've seen this movie once. That was enough. I had left the army a few years before this happened. I had a bunch of buddies that got caught up in that firefight. They can't even watch this movie without having flashbacks of that terrible day.
@Captainkebbles1392
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, when a copy got into Mogadishu itself, the locals CHEERED the film, they thought it was a movie about them kicking ass. Kinda funny how that worked out. Just a fact people may enjoy
@taramichelle2972
Жыл бұрын
I listened to the director speaking and he said that the guy that got blown in half actually lived for a few hours before passing away. This movie is brutal and realistic and something of an anti war film as it shows the horror of war. Great reaction guys and thanks
@Existential_Carousel
Жыл бұрын
@3:50 Yep that was Steve Martin in one of his classic movies The Jerk. You guys should definitely add it to your list.
@MZ-bl6wg
Жыл бұрын
14:08 these two Legends recieved the Medal of Honor for choosing to be put down to protect a 160th SOAR Blackhawk crew KNOWING they weren’t going to make it. Both were killed in action as shown. Both the DELTA Operators and Rangers were absolute heroic Legends and this movie does a great job to show how everything went sideways so fast. RIP to those lost.
@TheTimGree
Жыл бұрын
The Little Bird pilot that extracted the Delta operator at the first Black Hawk crash site was the actual pilot that did it in real life.
@88stephenmorrison
Жыл бұрын
As someone who is currently serving in the Canadian armed forces. When I deployed to Afghanistan we did learn a handful of basic words and phrases prior to deploying.
@javix2013
Жыл бұрын
The 2000s It was the moment of greatest visibility for Josh Harnett, he was on his way to becoming a new Hollywood star, he came from being a co-star with Ben Affleck in Pearl Harbor, and that is why they have put him as the protagonist in Black Hawk Down. Then by personal decision he left the big Hollywood movies, he continued receiving proposals, but he felt a lot of pressure to become a new Hollywood star, something that was about to happen to him at that time, he did not feel ready for all that, and finally he got off. of the big leagues of Hollywood, and then he dedicated himself more to independent cinema.
@jchan2888
Жыл бұрын
0:25 Simone's intro and Georges reaction to them are one of the best parts - cost be damned!
@blainesjustchillin3509
Жыл бұрын
If George wanted to avoid controversies then he shouldn't have even said anything.
@davidjuby7392
Жыл бұрын
the Rangers are Army special forces, they are well trained and used to scout and carry out Army operations deep inland.
@byronschroedel432
Жыл бұрын
There was no messaging in this movie, it was a accurate account of what occurred during that raid.
@ParkerLongbaugh
Жыл бұрын
This was Eric Bana's first US movie. The movie Chopper got him a lot of jobs.
@masterfalconer9655
Жыл бұрын
This film is based on a true story from 1996. Not everything shown in the film is real. Fun fact: Evan McGregor, Orlando Bloom and Tom Hardy were in this film as supporting actors.
@CopiousDoinksLLC
Жыл бұрын
I'll never get tired of watching of watching Tom Sizemore casually no-selling every Goddamn thing in this movie. He just saunters around like he's grabbing a coffee from the work lunchroom.
@bearkat78
Жыл бұрын
I was deployed to Bosnia for the nato peacekeeping mission in 1999 and we were issued a handbook that had info ranging from local flora to Russian made vehicle recognition, local and nato forces rank identification, and phrases in Serbo-creation. To this day I still remember “stani, il y putzan” - Stop or I’ll shoot!
@robling1937
Жыл бұрын
To more directly answer George's question, Rangers are the most elite infantry in the US Army. There is an interview with a guy named Brad Thomas. He was in Mogadishu as a ranger and went on to join Delta/CAG. Really wild to hear him talk about his experience.
@cliveklg7739
Жыл бұрын
False. it goes regular Army Grunts. The next tier of training you have Rangers, Airborne, Mountain, etc. Then Green Berets. And finally Delta.
@robling1937
Жыл бұрын
@@cliveklg7739 yeah, that's just wrong. First of all, special forces and delta are not infantryman. They have a different job than them, so you can't really compare the two. Sure, airborne, air assault, mountain, and other specialized units are elite, but rangers are top dogs without peers (again, among infantrymen). That is why they are the only special operations infantry unit.
@crazyphatdude14
Жыл бұрын
@@cliveklg7739 actually, he’s right. He said most elite INFANTRY unit. Which is correct. SF and SFOD-D (Delta) are special operation units and force multipliers. Airborne is infantry, but more specialized range of operations.
@TheGunderian
Жыл бұрын
Navy Seals. Hard Stop
@crazyphatdude14
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGunderian what do the NAVY SEALS have to do with the ARMY?
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
Жыл бұрын
I always loved the scene where the Ranger who had seen his best friend killed before him turns to the Sgt and says "I don't want to go back out there" and the Sgt says "You have to make your choice now or live with it forever". And as the rescue convoy runs out the gate the Sgt looks in the mirror and sees him still making up his mind. And at the last moment he jumps on board and you go "Yeessss!". Because haven't we all felt like that?
@HigHrvatski
Жыл бұрын
Black Hawk Down and Thin Red Line are two war movies where you go "I recognize that actor, and that actor and that"
@UnsolicitedContext
10 ай бұрын
In the book, when describing the Delta assault on the initial building, they actually talk about how if you shout 'get down' and 'drop your gun' in people's native language loudly when people are treaumatized by the initial assault, they do it. So, they do actually learn at least enough to talk TO people in the native languages.
@40thCapeRifles
Жыл бұрын
The Rangers are what's known as "Tier 1", which puts them in the same category as Delta Force, DEVGRU (SEAL Team Six), the Activity, and the CIA direct action units. What's interesting is that the HELICOPTER PILOTS are part of a Tier 2 unit, meaning they are dedicated units for support of the Tier 1s. In Somalia, the attached unit was the 160th Special Operations Air Regiment, or SOAR. The pilots are the elite of the helicopter community and SOAR is solely dedicated to support of special operations units I got to meet Durant at a speaking engagement here in the Quad Cities (we straddle the Mississippi River between Iowa and Illinois) and he was incredibly humble.
@fr1x
Жыл бұрын
i like how on every movie reaction on yt, there's tons of experts for lore coming out of the woodwork everytime lmao
@redsnoof
Жыл бұрын
For your information, the black hawk is not the biggest helicopter. The most well known helicopter that is bigger than the Black Hawk is the CH-47 Chinook. But it wasn't the biggest helicopter in the world
@SoloRenegade
Жыл бұрын
I watched a horse drawn cart pile drive into the back of a pickup at full speed in Kandahar Afghanistan once. Running a convoy to the airbase to get supplies and swap out damaged vehicles. the horse got spooked and bolted, and ran headlong into the back of the truck and flipped the cart over and tossed the rider. Happened right next to my truck, watched as if in slow motion. Every time I see the two guys moving near the donkey cart I remember that.
@Harv72b
Жыл бұрын
Oh, the humorous parts: many people (myself included) use humor to relieve stress, and among soldiers in particular there is a definite affinity for dark, "Gallows" humor. The film clip showed at the American base just before the lieutenant goes into seizures was a well-known scene from the Steve Martin film "The Jerk". In actuality, a famous line from that scene was shouted by one of the Rangers while under fire during the battle; I don't want to go into specifics because The Jerk is an excellent film in its own right & possibly one you'll want to react to in the future. If anything, the movie downplays soldiers' proclivity for joking around in its effort to be a "hoorah, MURRICA!" spectacle.
@timothyhedrick5295
Жыл бұрын
@4:10 - Each branch of the US military has it's Special Forces (SF) in addition to its bulk of enlisted personnel. In the Army, these are the Rangers, the Green Berets, SOAR (Special Operations Aviation), and Delta Force. Delta Force is the army equivalent of Navy Seals and the smallest of all four of these. In this movie, you see three of these SF groups. The Rangers (the bulk of the troops in the film), SOAR or Special Operations Air Regiment "the Nightstalkers" (the Special Helicopter Pilots and Crew in this file and who also flew the SEAL team members into Pakistan to kill Osama Bin Laden in 2012), and Delta Force (the elite guys like Delta Force Snipers Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart who were killed in Somalia (in the film protecting the downed helicopter pilot by themselves) and who later received the Medal of Honor, also "Hoot" (Actor Eric Bana). I don't believe "DELTA" exists on any official table of organization for the Army unless that has changed, but in reality everyone knows it exists as a unit. DELTA recruits heavily from the Rangers and from the Green Berets for its members. Rangers are unique in that they are primarily geared towards fighting behind enemy lines (as they do in this film) either by helicopter insertion, parachute, or other means of insertion. I had three "former" Rangers in my DEA Special Agent class back in 1998, and those guys could run FOREVER.... I'm sure an actual Ranger will chime in here and provide much better clarification.
@fakecubed
Жыл бұрын
The only Special Forces are the "green berets". That's their actual name: US Army Special Forces. They wear the famous green beret where they get their nickname from. Whereas Rangers wear a tan beret (used to be black), and airborne units may wear a maroon beret. The term is "special operations forces" for elite units in general. The Navy equivalent of Delta Force is specifically SEAL Team Six, aka DEVGRU (short for Naval Special Warfare Development Group). The "regular" SEAL Teams are the Navy equivalent of the Army Rangers, but the sorts of missions they do are often quite different and they have different specializations. Rangers are trained specifically for airfield capture. SEALs are trained in maritime operations, particularly underwater demolition. But in the Global War on Terror, pretty much every special operations unit is doing a lot of counter-terrorism, which used to be largely the purview of units like Delta, SEAL Team Six, and to an extent Special Forces (which are trained in insurgency/counterinsurgency and training local forces). The Marines get in on the action with MARSOC. The Air Force has its Special Operations Command with various types like Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, Special Reconnaissance, etc. Air Force special operations forces were on the ground in Mogadishu on that day coordinating close air support and providing medical aid. There were also a small number of SEAL Team Six snipers in Mogadishu that day but they don't appear in this movie and few people know they were ever there, as mainly the Rangers, Delta Force, and SOAR got all the attention. In the film, you can always tell the Delta guys by the black helmets they're wearing. They are literally skateboarding helmets, instead of the standard issue ballistic helmets worn by just about everyone else. Standard helmets were not easily modified back then, and Delta needed to attach things to their helmets like night vision. They also wanted greater visibility while on their missions, and the bulkier ballistic helmets worn by the Rangers in the film have a pretty significant front "brow" to obscure the view. The thinking was, Delta would not be getting into a lot of heavy firefights where shrapnel would be flying around, so the added protection of the kevlar wasn't needed. They would move quickly, attack with the element of surprise, and the biggest threat was actually bumping their heads on things while moving quickly through buildings. So, lightweight skateboarder helmets is what they wore. These same factors ended up going into a new standard issue ballistic helmet with attachment points and better vision some years later.
@benjauron5873
Жыл бұрын
I served in the US Army in the late 1990s, part of the time in the 75th Ranger Regiment, and I knew a few guys who were there in the real Battle of Mogadishu. (None of the ones who were featured in this movie, though.) But nothing like this happened to me. This and "Jarhead" are the two best post-Vietnam war movies ever made. And it's funny, because "Black Hawk Down" is a lot more like what you expect when you join the military, but "Jarhead" is a lot more like what you get... (P.S. Watch "Jarhead" next. That's my generation's "Full Metal Jacket.")
@mikeserot1410
Жыл бұрын
The CH-47 Chinook is the largest helicopter the U.S. Army uses to date. A good number of the pilots used in this film actually flew Rangers and Delta Operators into this fight. Keith Jones, who was the pilot of Star 4-1, recreated his actual rescue of Delta Operator Dan Busch from the crash of Super 6-1. A couple of real life veterans of this battle were extras in the film. What isn't shown is that Gordon and Shugart were flying with a third Delta sniper named Brad Hallings, who took over one of the miniguns when the crew chief was wounded. He lost part of his... left leg(?) when Super 6-2 was struck by an RPG. He could have easily been another Delta casualty at the 6-4 crash site. The crew actually ALL survived the initial crash but were killed when the Somalis overran the crash site.
@Ender7j
Жыл бұрын
I can’t recommend the book enough. It’s a fascinating story that inspired the movie and includes interviews of people on the other side. Read it if you get the chance…
@McPh1741
Жыл бұрын
I was a sophomore in high school when this happened. I remember being pissed to see the bodies being dragged through the streets on the news. This movie is fairly accurate. I have read the book and watched several documentaries on this. Some key differences: 1. Everyman wasn’t at the first crash site, he was on the convoy. Also, the crash site wasn’t in a roundabout area, it was more of an alley. However, the chopper did clip a building when it crashed as shown. 2. The character of Grimes is fictional, he never existed. 3. The inexperience of the Rangers wasn’t fully shown. They were shooting at the Delta guys in the target building at one point and many of them froze up when the shit hit the fan. Some deleted scenes touch more on this. Some trivia: 1. When star41 lands at the first crash site to evacuate Sgt. Bush and the other operator, the pilot in the movie is the actual pilot who did it in real life.
@beardedgeek973
Жыл бұрын
I mean if you're not prepared to see your soldiers dragged thru the streets, don't send them in. And if you're not prepared to die, don't join up.
@michaelsmith4691
Жыл бұрын
Grimes was actually "real", they just changed his name because the real guy (SPC John Stebbins) was so horrible (he was found guilty of some messed up shit in like 2000).
@sosaboi1352
Жыл бұрын
@@beardedgeek973 Real Fucken easy to talk like that on KZitem lmaoo being prepared to die doesn’t mean you aren’t scared. Especially when there’s an entire city of people shooting at you from all sides
@Boog1137
Жыл бұрын
@@beardedgeek973 I mean you're not wrong but it doesn't make it any easier to see
@Harv72b
Жыл бұрын
@@beardedgeek973 The soldiers being dragged through the streets were the two Delta Force snipers who volunteered to go in to defend the crashed chopper. This may seem counterintuitive to those who've never been in/around the military, but there actually are rules in warfare. Among many other things, they prohibit stripping a fallen enemy naked and dragging his corpse through the streets. It's one thing to kill an enemy in combat, it's another thing entirely to desecrate their body afterwards.
@Terminator484
2 ай бұрын
2:11 - To answer this question, yes, there have been a few. America was born through war, and specializes in war and dealing death all around the world. The United States has been in a near-constant state of war, or entangled in some armed conflict or insurrection somewhere in the world, for 237 out of the 248 years since the Declaration of Independence. Only 11 years of actual peace, so far. As you can probably guess, at the time I'm writing this, America is currently at war: it's embroiled in multiple counter-insurgencies across the Middle East and Africa, mostly against the remnants of ISIS & their satellite factions/allies.
@KrazyCash
Жыл бұрын
Excellent film and very well made. You'll probably want to space out films of similar genres but if you make it back around to war films I might suggest 13 Hours. A good Michael Bay film that is surprisingly heartfelt! And if it helps, Roy and Jim from the Office grew beards and got in shape to be in the movie (Maybe it was just Jim that got in shape....)
@benprewitt4600
Жыл бұрын
7:05... That's a great question. Generally the force size comes from the S3 shop (Planning) after consultation with the S2 shop (Intelligence) .
@richardmeyer1007
Жыл бұрын
The guy with the pretty eyelashes is Ron Eldard, who’s in the excellent “When Trumpets Fade”.
@SoloRenegade
Жыл бұрын
One of the Blackhawks that was shot down is now in the US Army Aviation Museum. Helicopters can land after loss of tail rotor, but it can be very tricky and most pilots have never done it for real. It also depends upon the conditions under which the crash landing began as to whether you can crash it "safely". As you probably know by now, this is a true story. Yes, we would learn a few words or phrases, but it didn't always work that well. Guys would forget the words (especially under stress), or mispronounce them, etc. And in Afghanistan for example, the people spoke something like 27 different languages and you were never certain who spoke/understood what. We did sometimes have a few people who could actually speak one of the local dialects, but this usually came down to chance of a random soldier choosing to learn that language on their own.
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