There is no early access... that was the official launch. You just had to pay extra to join or get delayed. Early access is total BS.
@SLSAMG
15 күн бұрын
Matter of perspective. Given the anti corpo agenda that's prevalent in society, it's a convenient agenda.
@Kain_Mercer
15 күн бұрын
@@SLSAMG You are being deliberately obtuse. Blizzard posted spoilers on socials during the delayed access period. That WAS the expansion launch. You either paid, or got locked out with the poors. That was the expansion launch.
@boozie773
15 күн бұрын
You should run for political office.
@alessandroaldobrandi1704
15 күн бұрын
@@SLSAMG does that boot taste good?
@NickyNiclas
15 күн бұрын
Welcome to capitalism. Blizzard is a for profit company owned by Microsoft, one of the richest companies in the world.
@HiddenEvilStudios
15 күн бұрын
The thing about early access with Final Fantasy is that it doesn't come with an increased price tag. Anyone who pre-orders gets early access to the game, no matter if base game or collector's edition, which seems a far better and more realistic way to gauge player load compared to slipping it in with the most expensive version of the game and a bunch of cosmetics exclusive TO that version.
@TheMexRAGE
15 күн бұрын
The early access for pre-order have to do with dealing with delivery gap for the physical version of the expansion, some of them reach early and sometimes it get there late. It is more of a consequence of not having a pre-patch in FFXIV
@SamuriX2010
15 күн бұрын
@@TheMexRAGEwe do have a prepatch. Theres always a x.58 which is the final patch and then a 2 day maintenance before launch.
@ub3rfr3nzy94
15 күн бұрын
Almost every playe pre-orders nowadays, so it wouldnt make sense.
@HiddenEvilStudios
15 күн бұрын
@@ub3rfr3nzy94 How is that an argument?
@OakenTome
15 күн бұрын
@@HiddenEvilStudiosArguably the main selling point of WoW's EA was a smoother launch due to the exclusivity. That likely falls away with how many people preorder.
@alewis514
15 күн бұрын
Early access is propably the single worst decision to implement in an active live-service MMO. It's the ultimate launch hype killer. Some of the best memories were from expansion launches, where there is new content in the game, you're making a dent in it, you want to taste it so much that you don't even sleep for the first night. This doesn't exist in TWW. You either got scammed for spending $40 extra and do a watered-down expansion launch, or you play delayed access where there is no hype whatsoever because EA crowd is already level 80, blasting through reputations, dailies, dungeons and whatnot. Imagine a POE league launch where you can't play on the opening weekend unless you shell out $60 for the newest supp pack. GG, you enter the league with EA players already having many divines and farming bosses.
@normannseils3936
15 күн бұрын
Or you don’t give a shit about other people and play the launch when and how you want. Just stay away from social media, it’s not good for you people.
@reeferrick2635
15 күн бұрын
@@normannseils3936 its harder to stay away from social media when you have friends. we cant all be anti-social losers like you
@H41030v3rki110ny0u
15 күн бұрын
@@normannseils3936 ikr!! imagine caring about other people in a Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game!!1!!
@mrj5202
15 күн бұрын
I disagree. There were very little server issues. It was a lot better than the alternative of having launch day were pretty much nobody could log in for the entire day
@alewis514
15 күн бұрын
@@mrj5202 Oh give me a fucking break, it's 2024 and retail wow has a fraction of its peak userbase which happened 15 years ago, during WOTLK expansion. We have technology to support even 10 million sub launch without any issues. Phasing, layering, scaling, call it however you want. Just because you experienced a shit launch 10 years ago (WOD) doesn't mean any launch will be like that. Heck, even Legion launch wasn't like that. It was totally OK. I was there doing an all-nighter.
@kn0bhe4d
15 күн бұрын
You cannot convince me that this isn't intentional. They definitely knew this had to be done, and they deliberately waited till the early access was done. Giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt is asinine at this point.
@MrBRolls
15 күн бұрын
Surely this wont happen with next expansions lol.... They definitely are banking on players who didnt buy the early access shit to remember this and feel more inclined to buy it next time around. Very manipulative slimy shit. Even if it wont be the case that leveling will be faster in next expansions, they want people to take the chance of it being so.
@wiziek
15 күн бұрын
@@MrBRolls Well they removed early access from Diablo 4 expac which was with base games release. On other hand it is easy way to pump numbers on more expensive editions.
@Giliver
14 күн бұрын
I mean if you were making a game wouldn't this be a low priority issue to fix? It would for me
@blake7587
7 күн бұрын
It was a good thing. The only people whining are poor people who are just jealous. But people who paid more money DESERVE special treatment. You don’t see us whining about them giving Preach super early Alpha access just because he is a KZitemr. I hope they continue with paid early access 🙏
@andrewjones992
15 күн бұрын
That scaling issue has been in the game since BFA, they noticed it back then nevermind alpha and beta War Within lol
@Maria_Erias
15 күн бұрын
Yeah, I remember DHs selling carries through BfA dungeons at whatever was the minimum level to get in. 110 at the time? Something like that.
@mebrandonb
15 күн бұрын
Yeah I noticed this during Shadowlands(I tihnk?) and DF when I decided to level some Horde alts through chromie time. Level 10 healer topping the meters with 2 spells, okiee dokiee blizz... xD
@Maria_Erias
15 күн бұрын
@@mebrandonb Hey, I still do that. About the only thing you can actually do with a free trial is make twinks. Got a level 11 resto shammy that can burn down dungeon mobs in 2 hits with either Flame Shock and Lava Lash or two Lightning Bolts. Farming the warforged upgrades from WoD dungeons gives something to do.
@EnhancementZappe
15 күн бұрын
It was there actually during legion, where geared characters were taking 3 times as much time to kill npc then new ones, so ppl took off part of their gear to bring down their ilvl - usually rings, it was added bcs ppl with gear were oneshoting WQ mobs and freshly lvled chars coudnt even tag them it just got more skewed in later expansions
@SurpriseMechanics
14 күн бұрын
Yeah.. I was about to say. BFA launch was hilarious. Characters from The previous expansion were melting max level characters from BFA in PvP.
@Varyaggaming
15 күн бұрын
Dont forget that Early Acess in FF you get by preordering at ANY price point, there only being two price points btw. The usual game price and the collector's edition, digital or physical. You get Early Access regardless, but with WoW's TWW You get 3 price ranges and the most EXPENSIVE one has Early Access. THAT Is the problem. I dont mind the early access in FF as much, even though It is bad too but most people who KNOW they'll play anyway will order, besides getting that Xp earring that helps you level, It's just a no brainer for those of us who have played for many years on FF and have settled in it.
@henrychurch6062
15 күн бұрын
"We really changed this time!" - Blizzard Entertainment "Hah, those idiots fell for it again!" - Also Blizzard Entertainment
@carbxncle
15 күн бұрын
They certainly had a lot of help from content creators who turn tail and sing their praises after one interview or two
@SRFAA
14 күн бұрын
@@carbxncleIt was to be expected, but it does look poorly on them when they make a big spectacle of quitting their game over 20 different bad things, and then go back to them a year later because they said they'll do better.
@derpderpin1568
13 күн бұрын
@@carbxncle Like Mike.
@CrypidLore
15 күн бұрын
From an optics stand-point they should have waited until after release to address the problem. The fact that they DIDN'T really makes me skeptical that it isn't a punishment for people not buying early access.
@davidp2391
15 күн бұрын
I got this crazy idea but hear me out when you go into the zone. Then mobs in that zone are just one level and then when you level you go to a new zone that has higher level mobs. I know this is groundbreaking and probably impossible to pull off technically, but it just might work.
@Htacid
15 күн бұрын
stop that makes too much sense!
@mort6578
15 күн бұрын
Damn! Blizzard should hire you.
@ricardolionheart4920
15 күн бұрын
Too bad we are dealing with this new bli$$ard now, instead of old, glorious, almost perfect game making, BLIZZARD, in all caps. This company is a mere shadow of its former self...
@Trouble_2-1
15 күн бұрын
Aha! Captain Logic, we meet again my old Nemesis!
@gscgold
15 күн бұрын
Insanity
@jetillian
15 күн бұрын
Also Earthen were time-gated till Sept. 3rd, but their timelines said it was available during early access. So maybe during launch? Nope. Sept. 3rd.
@mJc191
15 күн бұрын
Yeah..this was my main reason for getting EA. All of the time gating on the new content has kind of killed the momentum for what is suppose to be a new expansion.
@Hypnotically_Caucasian
15 күн бұрын
OH BOY HOT DIGGITY DOG MORE DWARVES?!?!?
@Luthies
15 күн бұрын
All their timelines say is that it's available before season 1 begins. We all just read that as "available right away". It's a poorly presented graph, but holy hell not worth bitching about.
@mJc191
15 күн бұрын
@@Luthies The info graph was very specific with dates. Blizzard knows they were wrong and that’s why they made changes and sent out new emails. People are within their right to complain since we are paying customers.
@Luthies
15 күн бұрын
@@mJc191 If you google "the war within roadmap" it takes you to a wowhead page dated 15th of July with the launch roadmap, all that is stated on that roadmap is that prepatch event starts on 27th of July early access is on 22nd of august, launch on 27th and season 1 starts 10th of september. Earthen are lodged very firmly between early access start and season 1 start in the graph. 3rd of september surprise surpise is between 22nd of august and 10th of september. There has never ever been info out there saying that earthen would be unlockable right away after expansion launch. Like I said the graph is presented poorly, but it's seriously not worth bitching about if you have any sense to you.
@pewthepuny2849
15 күн бұрын
"Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence" is a famous saying. With Blizzard, and most other big-shot corpos, I've learned that the opposite is true. There's no way they didn't notice this earlier. This was a calculated move on their part, and a message to the playerbase: "Buy the epic edition next time, you peasant."
@NiteSaiya
15 күн бұрын
They pay psychologists to tell them how to exploit human psychology. All AAA game companies do these days. They hired experts to come in and tell them how to squeeze their players for more money, and the experts told them, "Sell early access to the next expansion, and set the early access period during a weekend so anyone who doesn't buy it has all weekend to sit there and get spoiled on social media and listen to their friends and guildies on Discord having fun so they really feel as left out and excluded as possible." They went out of their way to create as many negative pressures on players that didn't buy early access as possible, all to make it feel bad to decline the deal. That's anti-free market and anti-capitalist, too. Ideally, if you decline a deal you don't like, everything goes back to normal. You don't feel worse for not taking a deal. By aligning so many negative pressures, Blizzard created multiple circumstances where you feel PUNISHED for declining the deal. They created the problem and then sold the solution back to you. That's the definition of a racket.
@xXscreamingkoalaXx
15 күн бұрын
"I've learned to take time-tested advice and do the opposite. I am very smart."
@dirge7459
15 күн бұрын
The fact they used their early access entry fee status to then swap it out for launch day proves they knew exactly what they were doing with this. They *needed* to appear as if they were being genuine and nice, making sure players were having a blast, a romp even. By the time launch day nears, they pull the rug to reveal that the party time is over, and that it is time for the customer to hop back onto the Blizzard hamster wheel to grind and pad out the sub plans (they have sub plans geared towards mount collectors, and general completionists, so padding out levelling/experience as a trifecta wouldn't surprise me at all, it's just changed to be last in the pillar each time). It's still wild to me how old in the head some of those at the top of the corps are like. Padding out games to acting like complete junk doesn't equate to longer paying customers, it just equates to boredom, repetitiveness and eventually a desire to go elsewhere. People in the games industry in their 50-60's don't seem to get this.
@normannseils3936
15 күн бұрын
@@dirge7459 or this is all in your head. If you would use that petty brain of yours and did 1-2 hours of world content on a few chars each week you’d had the gold to buy the upgrade (by saving money you would have spend on gametime). Or you know, have some willpower and don’t give in to fomo. I know you are strong. You can do this. Sure, Did blizz need to create a EA: not really. Did you need to buy it: not at all. The world is changing, adapt and get over it. But use your fucking brain. And if you really think they don’t deserve the money, give it to charity instead, or buy yourself a nice steak. Do anything, but stop making yourself feel miserable in the comments of a random video.
@ASackOfPotatoes
15 күн бұрын
Glad to see they continue to be a scumfuck company even after the acquisition. Haven't tried wow yet and i'll keep it that way till they get their shit together
@kevinblah6877
12 күн бұрын
It’s only dramatic because people are making it dramatic. It’s such a dumb thing to complain about.
@ginoh007
15 күн бұрын
To me this is the first launch I was not excited playing the game, out of my own principles I bought the most basic edition but noticed with my guild that about 70% did pay for the early access. The timing was awful that they got to start playing in a weekend and people with the regular edition would maybe have to use some vacation days. And then there is the scaling, I was one of those people that was so bored killing anything I only slightly touched and zones felt more empty than normal with questing even more optimized to finish quickly to move me on to the next spot. Hope that I will be a bit more hyped about playing when the season starts but so far a bit sour about my experience.
@kurrwa
14 күн бұрын
Taking vacation time to play video games 😂😂😂 that’s sad
@Soulessdeeds
15 күн бұрын
Blizzard doesn't have Bobby to hide behind anymore. They are kings of redemption arcs and pissing away good faith lol.
@MeiRaAaAwrsyourEye
15 күн бұрын
that was a "blizzard you still are the same greedy, evil, anticonsumer company, we get it. You don't need to remind it to us regardless of how much good will this expansion has achieved" moment
@GodOfWar187
15 күн бұрын
Even with drops, TWW struggled to get 300k viewers on Twitch. That's less than half what DF got at its peak. Early access killed the hype.
@OakenTome
15 күн бұрын
I think a part of that might be there was generally less hype around TWW leading up to launch, because DF was swooping in to save us from Shadowlands. But yea, launch hype was nonexistent until everybody got in and realized how good the game is.
@MrFox1231
15 күн бұрын
The scaling system will never work so long as they continue to break it each expansion by slapping more levels on top of it.
@miatomi
15 күн бұрын
levelling is literally still just as easy, people just like to panic
@christiankerns9403
15 күн бұрын
Thank you... someone with common sense
@jsw78
15 күн бұрын
Blizzshill please, lmao
@ninjaman0003
15 күн бұрын
It isn’t that it’s still easy. It’s the message the change sends and that the team was too stupid to realize that.
@miatomi
15 күн бұрын
@@jsw78 I love to hate WoW actually, but my hate is accurate. I just levelled a RSham from 70-80 in like 3-4 hours of casual random dungeon spam yesterday. If I had a premade I probably would've done it in 2 1/2. Level 70s were literally doing 10x the damage of higher level characters, its not even fun to leave things that way
@nothingisawesome
15 күн бұрын
Seems accurate but it is a dumb unforced error by them. It’s sucks that the balance team has to consider anything about how it will look with EA but they do
@johanlahti84
15 күн бұрын
Early Access should NEVER be a thing. I totally disagree pre-orders should be able to access it earlier. The launch is when the game is the most fun, coming in after sucks. And noone should Pre-order ANY game. It is bad for the consumer and everyone need to realise that
@ForOne814
15 күн бұрын
From my experience, later patches in WoW were always miles better than the launch, and all of the launches I've participated in were clown fiestas with queues, servers that are on fire and terrible leveling experience due to overcrowding. And I pretty much always pre-order games that I have interest in, especially when it comes to early access. It's been a good consumer experience so far. Didn't pre-order this expansion, because of sanctions, but I'd certainly do so otherwise.
@D4rkc14ymor3
15 күн бұрын
Nobody cares what poors think.
@arkhikun
15 күн бұрын
I abjectly hate MMO launch days and avoid them like the plague. It's fun to have a lot of people around but I do NOT want to wait 2 hours on a queue
@dnjn4575
15 күн бұрын
Just dont play fuck em
@Relhio
15 күн бұрын
I think you must be insane to be sold on the idea on early access for online games. Servers never work in 99% of the cases. In WoW seasons don't even start on release, there's absolutely no reason you'd want early access unless you're a content creator and want that exclusivity zaza.
@blake7587
12 күн бұрын
Blizzard didn’t “mess up”. People who pay more deserve certain benefits. It’s like saying “Liverpool messed up” because they let some viewers sit closer to the pitch and others sit further back based on how much they paid.
@duckey599
10 күн бұрын
or the 1st class in trains n busses
@Evolixe
15 күн бұрын
I really appreciate you didn't spoil the void crystal interaction and let us discover for ourselves. Chad move. Thanks preacher
@TheFarGaurd
15 күн бұрын
I also want to add for non-PvP people, all throughout early access people had Comp Stomp available, which is by far the easiest way to farm honor in the game. And it was changed with delayed access.
@Sloee.
15 күн бұрын
Comp stomp is still available this week.
@danielmorris2838
15 күн бұрын
They changed it back @@Sloee.
@TheFarGaurd
14 күн бұрын
@@Sloee. they added it after 3 days, even though the backlash was instant
@Dezarc
15 күн бұрын
i don't want to sound like a blizzard shill but before the nerfs i was killing most things in 1 or 2 gcds and it was almost annoying not being able to see even 10 seconds of my general rotational button priorities before the thing was dead so i kind of prefer the difficulty bump, though the timing of it is kinda dumb from blizzard; if it was going to be a hidden early access bonus like some peoples' conspiracy theory goes you'd think they would have toggled it on immediately at regular launch, but us plebs had a day or two of playtime pre-nerf
@ramenstein6606
15 күн бұрын
People don't like hearing that, most people are on the blizzard hate train
@ForOne814
15 күн бұрын
@@ramenstein6606 most people don't care. I doubt those that are whining about it even have an active sub.
@ruick78
15 күн бұрын
Its more people who played early access been able level bunch there alts snd such now all standard playes are behind they pre order. They had time during beta ect to see this, this why they have a "QA" team to be like hey we notice we flying through these fights. Nope cause QA basically non existant since people will pay to be bets testers
@Dezarc
15 күн бұрын
@@ruick78 i was in the same boat watching my guild members hit 80 while i was sitting in dalaran and while it is annoying to be a few days behind the paywall (which i agree with preach, should be a general pre-order bonus instead of locked behind a higher tier), almost everything is warbound and timegated now so there's still not much to do once you're 80 and geared beyond level and gear more alts for another week
@Macncheesee
15 күн бұрын
Shiilllll
@dodo3555
15 күн бұрын
They could have also done it next week, The fact that they found out about this the day of and fixed it is disgusting
@Arizonian312
14 күн бұрын
I mean if it's an issue where the experience is not as intended you want to fix it asap no?
@dodo3555
14 күн бұрын
@@Arizonian312 what are the odds they just realised now and not in beta?
@liquidpebbles
15 күн бұрын
I played this afternoon. The gameplay was good. I'm not bothered by the change.
@liquidpebbles
15 күн бұрын
Or maybe the change hasn't been made live yet? Hm
@veryontron4279
15 күн бұрын
@@liquidpebblesit’s been live for a while.
@strayparticles
15 күн бұрын
This scaling bug reminds me of Anthem where someone figured out that the most basic starter weapon gives you the fastest kill time. This is basically the same.
@ninjaman0003
15 күн бұрын
Blizz completely lost my trust years ago. They kept saying they changed and then kept making obvious mistakes. I want to SEE they’ve changed before I even think of playing a blizz game again.
@mebrandonb
15 күн бұрын
To be fair, I think the "change" they were referring to was their approach to what they ask of their players in their day-to-day lives in game. The early access sounds like a higher up call which Preach even mentioned as his suspicion in this video. Them changing their approach to the game isn't going to change Activision-Blizz/Microsoft from, ultimately, being a huge greedy company looking to extract more and more dollars from its players. If anything I would think all the devs would want players to get their hands on the content asap to see all the work they've done which, this time around, has been fun and impressive so far.
@Ayuima69
15 күн бұрын
I can never trust a comment like yours cause it sounds like you quit in shadow lands and you are just going to assume you know how the game progresses.
@ninjaman0003
15 күн бұрын
@@Ayuima69 how bout I quit in shadow lands, waited for impressions one month into DF, and played until a bit after 9.1. Just because you think this is entitled whining doesn't make it so. I had no issue playing wow for years without needing a break because I loved the lore and gameplay that much. I really want to play again but wow was my escape from bullies in high school. I'm not going to just take customer bullying. Not for something I really care about.
@Ayuima69
15 күн бұрын
@@ninjaman0003 I mean the game looks completely different from shadow lands, from how flight works, the UI, the skill tree, half the menus, how progress works, how character sharing progress works, how allot of the menus look and feel are very different. Even in shadow lands and literally every expansion they release something and tune it or change it. Just because I think your point has no substance because you have no specific reason, you just flaunt a ambiguous phrase like : "I want them to change" doesnt mean im bullying you i just want people to be honest and say. "I don't like the game anymore because I changed." If that's the reason, Instead of making excuses, which is what it sounds like to me because like I said at the start. They changed a whole lot and yet people like you still say the same thing and don't give specific reasons. Like you just don't like the game and don't know why or what they should change to make you like it again.
@ninjaman0003
15 күн бұрын
@@Ayuima69 I never said you were bullying me or anyone. I said it sounds like you thought I was just whining. I also used to give incredibly detailed feedback on the forums. Look up axeperson. I actually had some people annoyed in the hunter forums that I was essentially keeping a thread updated with the most recent changes. I get comments like my original one can come across as know it all or entitled. But you should just ignore the comment if you feel that way. You are judging a book by its cover and not even looking at the first page.
@Wheeljack678
15 күн бұрын
I think the fair thing to do would be to apply the hotfix 4 days from official launch. That way there would have been no difference between the two. The fix was needed, it created a very toxic meta. I saw people getting kicked from normal, random dungeons because they weren't "low level enough" and needed 5 seconds to kill a mob instead of 2. It also made you feel infinitely weaker as you leveled up, almost to the point that you didn't want to. That said, I've always bought the deluxe editions because of the extra digital goodies and while I enjoyed questing without 500 people murdering questmobs and burying NPCs, I don't think EA should be a thing at all - definitely not for an increased price. At worst for pre-ordering any edition.
@Dorfess
15 күн бұрын
I did every side quest main quest and had 585 item gear by the 3rd day of early access. Now I understand I play a ton more than most people but now that I have to wait another 2 weeks to be able to do anything always sucks on expac release and it personally kills a ton of my hype, I never understood why they time gate everything if I want to paly the game just let me play.
@user-pl7pn6ju4s
15 күн бұрын
They want to keep you on a sub, really as simple as that. The game is actively trying to waste your time
@thesunthrone
15 күн бұрын
The longer it takes for you to get what you wont, the longer you stay subbed. Simple as that. They can come up with any BS excuses they want, but that's the brass tacks of it.
@wiziek
15 күн бұрын
585? Did you play without sleeping?
@zirngibel3596
14 күн бұрын
so without EA you would have to wait 11 days instead of 14
@TheLocochico
13 күн бұрын
The biggest issue about leveling is you won't complete even half of the story on your main char that is suppose to have slower progression and you will already be level 80
@mr.meatsoup5639
15 күн бұрын
Now that i've leveled both in early access and actual release, i dont really notice a difference. The whole thing when it was announced got blown out of proportion as if 3 second kills now became 10 second kills.
@bighosnl
15 күн бұрын
I lvled in the early acces, and I also lvled a toon yesterday, went from about 2 hours in dungeons to about 2 hours and 40 minutes. Yes its a little slower but realistically its really not that big of a deal.
@zirngibel3596
14 күн бұрын
yup. not a big deal like modt things. but players are crybabies and just want to cry about every little thing there is. they just cant enjoy a game and stop when they dont have fun anymore but miserable
@nickelodeann
11 күн бұрын
@@zirngibel3596100% .. also before the change I heard some people complaining about how fast the leveling was. People are just gonna complain no matter what, especially the wow community
@DJToMyHits
14 күн бұрын
Well the content creators are always backing blizzard up. This does not give me a whole lot of confidence. As far as tryin to get people back, this is not a good way to go about it
@AnterianEvo
15 күн бұрын
Its the slippery slope argument. businesses try to encourage buying shit like early access by manipulation of the human mind. It's good to voice your opinion.
@Shiirow
15 күн бұрын
this has been an issue since the dawn of scaling in Legion. it was an issue and will continue to be an issue, until they finally give up the ghost, remove scaling and go back to proper balancing.
@takco2596
12 күн бұрын
As someone who did not pay for early access, who cares? The expansion JUST released, leaving plenty of time to level. It still takes no time to hit 80. But this scaling issue.. been happening since at least mop remix and should have been fixed by now. It's more fun imo at 70 than at 80.
@jjuranamo12
15 күн бұрын
With all due respect, those people who want 5+ max alts can deal with the time it takes to level.. to be a nerd, you need to be a nerd. no free rides.
@knallis
14 күн бұрын
...pay to win - the essence is claiming that EA gives no advantage when in fact it offered nothing but advantage when it came to fast leveling. Time = money = EA. They should have been honest about it though, not this huge middle finger to those who didn't want to pay to win.
@kurrwa
14 күн бұрын
@@knallisthere is no winning comdition in WoW. You get to the same level earlier or later 😂
@knallis
14 күн бұрын
@@kurrwa :) Exactly - and "earlier" trumps later..
@spriggs_fm
15 күн бұрын
I definitely felt like it was an issue that I was effortlessly PLOWING through content. I dont think i even replaced gear till 76
@KNByam
15 күн бұрын
I play a resto shaman, and elite mobs were falling over at the sight of me. I'm level 80 and never left the first zone.
@gabrielmunizmorao3060
15 күн бұрын
well, to be fair..even if the plowing was not happening, if the new expasion start ilvl is lower than some of the last expansion, i'll not replace gear either.
@Shiirow
15 күн бұрын
to be fair, thats how its always been, people joke about replacing epics with greens off the bat but if you did the higher content, you always kept the gear for a little while before replacing.
@jamesweber4769
14 күн бұрын
My bm hunter was 79 before I replaced anything
@thatguythomas1020
15 күн бұрын
Leveling is still crazy fast, you can get from 70 to 80 in hours. It still feels the same.
@normannseils3936
15 күн бұрын
Especially dungeons are piss easy and give the same XP still. They might take 5 min instead of 2 now, big whoop.
@kaakrepwhatever
10 күн бұрын
It's a problem Blizzard has because they no longer test content prior to release.
@SnarkyLesbian
15 күн бұрын
Yeah, it wasn't a smart move because of optics, but it ABSOLUTELY made levelling better than everything getting two-shot in early access. There was no bite to anything and we never got to use abilities.
@bjorn0411582
15 күн бұрын
I hope by next expansion you do take the stance to not get early access, I think most content creators agree its bad, but I think few really GET the pain of sitting there, watching your whole friends group play, the guild discord pop off with screenshots of the fun quests, their achievements, hitting max level, all the fun theyre having. Whilst you just have to sit there and twiddle your thumbs. I think itd be a valuable experience to sit out early access, so you can more accurately evaluate how it feels, and how fucking shit and stupid it is.
@deadjosh13
15 күн бұрын
Thats a dream lmao... Most content creators would say they disagree with early access but none of them will ever take a stance and not get it. All they will do is make content out of the outrage and farm engagements with videos and tweets... They make money off of these things lol
@MrButchersTube
15 күн бұрын
You only had a year to save up 80 dollars.
@joshuasmith4643
15 күн бұрын
Mate, it's not about the money, people value their time and what they justify their purchases for. 80$ for a few days early even though all the major end game content is locked off is a waste of money in the majority of players eyes@@MrButchersTube
@SFTaYZa
15 күн бұрын
L m a o @@MrButchersTube
@DvSavage
15 күн бұрын
@@SFTaYZa agree to disagree. You have a point. Even if not everyone has it as easy. If you can save up 60 or 70. You can certainly save up another 10 - 30. But on the other hand he is right. If saving is harder because different reasons < say a ilness where your meds dont get covered etc > money can be harder to save for a game in itself. Being able to spend those 60 already might be huge for them. And blizz says hah, you suck. So i do get both sides. The release of a expac. Or a game. Was supposed to be special, not even for WoW only. Whenever some really good online games release the game/dlc/expac, the game is filled to the brim. Communitys thriving everywhere. And that slows down over a couple days, you can always choose to buy a game today, or in a week, but chosing to be there when it releases so u can be apart of that big communal thing is supposed to be special. And not a paid privelage.
@joevader10
15 күн бұрын
This really rubs salt in the wound of missing out on day 1 with my friends. I really hate this early access trend...
@facehugger8995
15 күн бұрын
I mean even playing on the 26th it literally took barely 2-3 hours to hit max level are people really complaining
@wiziek
15 күн бұрын
2-3? Yea right if you ignored campaign but how did you do it exactly you troll?
@animelytical8354
13 күн бұрын
Slow levelling after delayed access is exacerbating the issue of "early access"
@joshuafurr9439
15 күн бұрын
This is like the 10th video on this topic. The day it was announced, I agreed! I agreed because I totally leveled solo on my main. I only quested with open world content, a few delves, and some follower dungeons. It was honestly the most smooth leveling experience that I've ever had going into a new expansion and I thoroughly enjoyed it. For the first time ever, it felt like I only got more powerful going into a new expansion and not like I ate a massive nerf and had to build back up. I didn't feel like I went from killing gods to struggling against wild goats. So when I read this news, I too was like "WHAT?! This is stupid!" Then some guildies were like "dude, go on your geared level 70 Shaman and do a normal dungeon with other people." So I did that. I actually went from 70-80 in a few hours. The dungeons while leveling were hilariously tuned. I honestly probably could've solo'd them up until level 75 or so. It's like they expected everyone to be doing 150k DPS and I'm over here doing 1.2mil by myself. It was a necessary change... for dungeons anyway. The timing of it is what was the most braindead. They already had a community in an uproar about early access as it was. They could've waited at least a good week after everyone else started playing before they tuned it. I agree it's BS to give them a different experience than the rest of us.
@deadjosh13
15 күн бұрын
There is absolutely no difference pre-nerf and after nerf for leveling... You can still blow thru leveling without much issue... Its a massive overreaction by the community... Besides, you got till Sept 10th till anything relevant happens at endgame... so wtf is the rush lmao
@pskfry
12 күн бұрын
i leveled 2 chars before the nerf and 2 after, and i literally notice zero difference. it's completely overblown thanks for contributing to the noise preach
@Kasaaz
4 күн бұрын
Having leveled up a few days into the expansion, the experience from like 70 - 72 was awful. After that it was fine. Edit: This character was level 33 when I started the day of the retail launch. Not having end game 70 gear made it a NIGHTMARE walking into The War Within zones until I had finally replaced everything.
@SigFrid1985
12 күн бұрын
TL, DR/W: Blizzard gave an extra boost to the ones that payed and then removed it for the majority of players.
@stealthshopper2092
15 күн бұрын
level squishing was always a problem in scaling. We told them this ten years ago.
@ariex0a
15 күн бұрын
It was a problem that dps players could pull the whole dungeon on top of the boss and solo it all in a matter of seconds. Doing dungeons that take 28 minutes in 4 minutes was detrimental the experience clearly, as people would he dissatisfied in my groups and leaving because there was no gameplay for them. Should have been fixed asap.
@Psynister_PBP
9 күн бұрын
We need more info on this Engulfed in light business, than just that little bit of teaser there, Preach. Give us the details! I couldn't possibly care less about the difference in leveling speed from early access. I got it, I benefitted from it, and I've leveled twice as many characters to 80 post-nerf as I did in early access. It doesn't matter.
@Craul08
14 күн бұрын
If the WSS is so focused on story as everyone keeps saying then they shouldn't care how fast people level.
@BuzzzdLightyear
15 күн бұрын
When will Mike address the elephant in the room? Blizz wants people to believe so badly that they’ve turned over a new leaf, that they’re listening to feedback and doing better, and then all of this shit happens less than a week from launch. They didn’t test the game even with all the time and paid testers available. They haven’t fixed their god awful scaling system that pervades EVERY aspect of gameplay. And they delivered about 5 hours of story in a supposedly “story focused mega saga” that we won’t see an update to in 6+ months. This shit is just sad, man.
@Tijuanabill
15 күн бұрын
Or maybe you are just wound way too tight, and need to relax. Have you ever played a game that wasn't WoW? Was it as perfect as you describe this should be? Every complaint that you think is unique to Blizzard, can be found in KZitem comments about every single game that exists. You should hear the apes playing EA College Football 25, losing their minds over bugs smaller than these.
@ub3rfr3nzy94
15 күн бұрын
Blizzard is a publically traded company it has to make money for shareholders. The early access thing isn't in the hands of devs, the devs did not choose to add it, they were told to add it. You're angry at people you don't even know the names of, and never will, they're private investors that made this decision. Being angry at Blizzard doesn't change anything, Blizzard isn't in control of financial decisions like that.
@thomasshepard7891
15 күн бұрын
Holy exaggeration. From the way you make it sound the scaling is ruining the expansion rather than the minor annoyance for a few hours it actually is.
@Luthies
15 күн бұрын
5 hours of story? I guess if you only count the main story that is accurate, but to call the main story the entire story of Khaz Algar is just sad, man.
@thesunthrone
15 күн бұрын
He's not going to address it until the "gift 2 subs for a pet" """drops""" campaign on Twitch is over. I really dislike these kinds of incentivized sub gifting campaigns from major publishers. Giving stuff for watch time is fine, no problem with that, but this is where it really goes from drops to straight up sponsored streams.
@brettgilley
15 күн бұрын
I'm not all for early access at all. However, giving people two weeks trivializes the leveling for the entire player base. If people are upset over three days give them three days, but I dont agree with giving two weeks.
@TE-eq1dc
15 күн бұрын
This will be a precedent going forward. Blizz will not take the early access away in the future.
@stelthy3450
15 күн бұрын
Leveled 8 characters to 80 during early access. Took me longer to finish the Hallowfall storyline minus the one nobody can currently do on my geared character. Also, early access didnt do much for people aside from the levling issue. Its not like there was anything to do besides level/get close to loremaster. People should already be caught up by now. They also decided to release the xpac basically on the day most kids went back to school. Sorry for all of you that refused to spend the extra 40. I was about 8 hours late, hopped on discord and wondered why so many were online. So i paid the extra and was 80 in about 8 hours. Then alts just flew by. Especially at the 25% boost.
@Rich.Colours
14 күн бұрын
Slower doesnt mean slow tho. This is still the fastest levelling of any expac. Especially for alts. Used to take about a week or two of unrushed play to get through 10 levels of an expac. Now it takes a day or two at most.
@RobolusMaximus
15 күн бұрын
Blizzard should do a weekend event for bonus xp and everyone is happy
@CatDad09
15 күн бұрын
So, what? Leave the game broken because some people ruined their launch experience?
@Mesk871
14 күн бұрын
If you pay for a Honda you can't get upset that you didn't get a Mercedes.
@Salubrious388
15 күн бұрын
Can’t level your main if it’s an Earthen Dwarf is the thing that’s really bugging me! 😢
@arneswarts6757
15 күн бұрын
What if they only changed the balance to screw over the people that did buy early access? Let's face it: one shotting bosses while level 70 is not fun at all, the change is a good change. Waiting for early access to be over is them giving a huge middle finger, but not to the so called 'poor people', but to the idiots that did buy early access...
@SIMEN480
14 күн бұрын
It is not strange, it is VERY clear what they are doing! Remember what company you're talking about!
@dp2251
12 күн бұрын
I can’t be the only one that thinks the menu screen music is fking anxiety inducing….
@ChrisJohnson-vb9hr
14 күн бұрын
Early access really killed things for me because of the spoilers about the storyline over the weekend.
@vinnie4v277
15 күн бұрын
I would say like this change is comming in 4/5 days. That way still get fixed quickly and people that didnt have early acces could still get the fast leveling
@blake7587
7 күн бұрын
I love the paid early access! I think the newbies forget Blizzard isn’t making this game for them. They are making it for the real hardcore fans and I hope paid early access continues in all the WoW expansions.
@FrostDK98
15 күн бұрын
So after just leveling my alt from 70 to 80 after the change, they didnt even nerf the lvl 70's being godly and doing millions of dps. What I did notice tho is it took about 50% longer to level so they musta messed with the experience numbers being given out. What a joke, especially after many of us just made a ton of alts in remix that we wanted to level.
@Fruity_White
15 күн бұрын
Haven't watched Preach in a while looks like he's in good shape, good on him
@oabh1808
15 күн бұрын
The last thing they focus on is balancing and class design balance in general.
@ShocktorGaming
14 күн бұрын
if they delayed the fix for two weeks, I'd get every character to level 80 by then... it is a bit of a "normal" slog now.
@ignispurgatorius5297
15 күн бұрын
The damn scaling has always been completly borked, even back when the introduced it in BFA. Stuff like pyre event is an exception here, but otherwise I always hated the idea of enemies leveling with the character, as this creates rubbish scenarios, like the trashmobs that you previously pulverized suddenly beeing annoying health spnges. It's just a shit mechanic from an RPG PoV, as it undermines the players progression. In an MMO you sadly need it, because you gotta pad that time. Right now I'd argue that alts can still blast the event at least once though before you reach 72.5.
@Shiirow
15 күн бұрын
scaling has been around since Legion... and yes, its been trash since then.
@ignispurgatorius5297
15 күн бұрын
@@Shiirow Oh you are right, they introduced that in legion. I was thinking of chromie time(?).
@chronoswitch930
12 күн бұрын
Yeah, my level 70 shadow priest was one shotting everything. I had a feeling something was weird.
@heavymetalweatherman7774
15 күн бұрын
In this early part of the game; I actually wish dungeons took more time. They’re not large and they’re not boring and it’s fun to see how those dungeons relate to the story of the zones. As we all gear up, I’m then more than happy to divorce myself from the story of it all and just plow through. I feel like this expansion started by allowing us to plow through and not sit back and enjoy it. Seems like I’m in the minority judging by the player response to this nerf.
@whyismyhandleshown
14 күн бұрын
I don't think it would have been a great fix to adjust the leveling in 2 weeks as well. That's when most of the people will already have leveled and noticed their character getting weaker severely. It just shows to show again, that the early access is such a disgraceful business practice, which leads to other problems and certainly puts a damper on the newfound "trust" which they slightly acquired during dragonflight.
@skarnexonline4446
15 күн бұрын
Ultimately - what does it matter :))) - the difference in end of expansion gear some will be 476 from remix some will be decked out in socketed maxed out dam trinkets and a lot more :))
@shmevan_
15 күн бұрын
Personally I hate the fact that I feel weaker as I level so I am glad they are addressing this. Just wish they had handled it better.
@Tantakugames
15 күн бұрын
its absolutely insane to nerf it now, like completely nuts.
@justinanderson2631
14 күн бұрын
People are going to have a lot to say about this. I for one think its a good thing Blizzard is working on the scaling of WW since it was horrendous in MoP Remix and they're taking good initiative with it *now*. The problem is: their timing is awful. People are clearly going to be upset about this, but im sure there's another crowd of people that would be upset if Blizzard never bothered to make these changes. You can't win. You can't make everyone happy.
@AlejandroRodriguez-dy1dv
14 күн бұрын
Just leveled my dps post this nerf via dungeons… it’s not bad i still ripped up the dungeons. What determined the “quickness” having a tank knowing how to gather so much adds made it slower. Ppl still grabbing mob by mob
@christiankirchner4570
15 күн бұрын
Blizzard scammed literally everyone who doesnt have the money or the time to play early access. Just the timing of this, 1 day after launch. They had months of alpha and beta testing and 4 full days of early access but didnt change anything.
@juraspl93
15 күн бұрын
But when people with gear get their max level, new wave of players will come without gear and it will be ok
@JBCD47
15 күн бұрын
Got a different take, I am 77, abandoned all the campaign as soon as I got to tee. Have levelled exclusively from mining and herbalism. It's been sub 1 hour levels throughout. Probs needed nerfing
@VulpineDemon
15 күн бұрын
Blizard's shitty actions and responses will never change. They do this multiple times every expansion.
@bartofii
6 күн бұрын
So i got to level in both early access and now post change with a character that wasn't prepped with prepatch or DF gear and I have to say it's incredibly frustrating how long fights can take in the open world. As a DK and a Paladin I've had fights that last long enough for cooldowns to refresh (2 minute ones... not counting lay of hands or the forbearance proccing ones) and it's a stark change. Also I was not aware of just how *terrible* heirlooms actually turned out. I knew they got nerfed to not be anywhere near same level blues but to find out they were trailing behind same level GREENS by like 30 ilvl or more was eye opening and I was looking at quest rewards. my latest toon is going to have a slog to 75 and if these 2 alts are anything to go by.... I don't see it really improving until gaining 500+ gear at some point closer to 80.
@chrisbalcu4033
15 күн бұрын
Someday the Stockholm Sindrome wow players will have a lightbulb and figure out they are scamming you and you pay them monthly to be mocked at. Be smart and dont pay for a bad product.
@paranoidsoldier
15 күн бұрын
Chilling on that fence.
@LK-mr6rf
15 күн бұрын
I see it as the actual release was full price and then a decent discount a week later. Bad marketing, if they just gave one high price and then a week later offered a discount then they would be praised as consumer forward.
@Solaris502
8 күн бұрын
i agree the early access felt bad from a consumer standpoint. buuuut counter point... from a player with early access it felt fantastic. it was my birthday and i took the friday and following week off of work to just enjoy the game. It felt so good to just get to play without all the wait times and lag of everyone trying to log in at the same time. Honestly, it was the smoothes launch the game has EVER had, iv been there for all of them. so thats gotta say something. i remember watching the clock tick down to when everone else got access and waiting at the ruins of Dalaran to welcome all the new players to the expantion. it was a genuinaly good experence as a player. But im also someone who collected the colectors editions and i have them all so i wasnt NOT going to buy it anyway.
@user-dp4ui4yq9p
15 күн бұрын
Blizzard delivering quality content as usual
@Manylimes
14 күн бұрын
I absolutely loved it! Was an amazing leveling experience. It was the smoothest release I’ve experienced. I will pay for it every time it’s available for the convenience.
@litebkt
15 күн бұрын
I have noticed I’m taking longer to level. I don’t mind. We’ll have lots of time to level up alts.
@afc9447
14 күн бұрын
I disliked the zones same level setup. Same as the character levels squeeze from 120 to 60¿. They've killed one of the important aspects in rpgs. And thats beings godlike in one area and a trash can in another. Scalling players' power wouldn't be a problem if the chars level and zones level were like all classics, from vanilla to cata
@Valla0
15 күн бұрын
this issue has literally been in the game since BFA where you're weaker at max level than the previous max level
@AAKhanivore
15 күн бұрын
I’ve levelled before and after the so called nerf. The people complaining about it clearly haven’t because the difference is negligible.
@kennethvankley7089
15 күн бұрын
They should get rid of scaling altogether. The strength of the boss shouldn’t change based on my level and gear. I hated it when they introduced it and it has always sucked.
@SwedetasticGames
15 күн бұрын
So, what really amuses me about the nerf, is they added Follower Dungeons for people that want a slower, more immersive run of the dungeons. You get introduced to this system pretty much instantly on Isle of Dorn, during the campaign quests. So why nerf peoples ability to powerlevel, in an expansion where sidequests don't give repeat rep rewards or anything? It is absolutely redundant.
@ExpectDragons
15 күн бұрын
There's no friggin way they didn't know this about levelling before launch, utter BS!
@Kasaaz
4 күн бұрын
I assume the Theatre thing is a backdoor tutorial for something they are planning later? I don't know... Edit: Yeah, like they did with the other activity you mentioned.
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