The blue in the lights is not because it’s electric, they are the optional laser headlights. Good review though thanks
@Yong_Goh
2 жыл бұрын
There is no confusion. This is an i4 M50 not an i4 M. This like any "M Sport" types are the in between of creature comforts/luxury and performance. You miss the BBQ dirty charcoal of the traditional M series... the i series is a microwave. Both will cook you food but are totally different in approach.
@Neojhun
2 жыл бұрын
Then what is an AirFryer? Maybe a Rimac.
@leafarchitecturedesignltd1110
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not an M car and it’s only motoring journalists that seem confused, - i4 M50 and not i4M and buyers like me know it’s a blend of GT comfort with M performance…
@3v3rhard
2 жыл бұрын
Bmw statement to journalist is that all ev will be Mxx. So who knows but its the message bmw is putting out, might change its marketing anyway...
@hyp36rmax
Ай бұрын
This is how I see the i4 M50 as a M badged goodies car. A true M car would be an Mi4 or i4M.
@paulk.5658
2 жыл бұрын
You made a mistake on minute 14:00 to 14:50 : edrive 40 and M50 have the same battery size. The numbers you said are the total battery capacity (83 kwh) and the usable battery capacity (80 kwh), but these numbers are equal for both models. edrive 40 is just so much more efficient (aerodynamics and only one motor in the rear instead of awd) But the rest of the video I enjoyed. Good job.
@ererce
2 жыл бұрын
Kind of seems that you have had a verdict prior driving the car. I am not expecting this to be M car. This is Mish car (ex M440i). It is an option for many drivers to move from ICE to EV. It has premium quality build (not like Tesla that is okish only). Choosing M50 over E40 is for dual motor. Also a lot of options are included in the price vs options in E40. I would not like to drive 340 hp car on snow with single motor only. Especially that car weight is close to 2 tonnes.
@richardchester2148
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, have been waiting for this one as a possible option to switch out of my B9 S4. Love the Taycan and etron GT (and the videos you did on both) and whilst I know you made reference to the Taycan, I wonder how close M50 is to the non-RS GT? At present the pricing on the GT and Taycan used, new PCP’d and leased takes them out of the picture, but some interesting lease rates appearing for the M50 and edrive 40. I wonder if it’s worth spending the extra on a GT if the M50 comes close for a little bit less….? Hoping to test drive one in the new year, in the meantime, keep up the great work, all the best for the festive period and keep the great content coming.
@peterjano3073
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the thorough review . I also agreed with your comments re most enjoyable car owned as I also had a z 3 m roadster . Alive involving great sound however in recent times found it to uncompromising and enjoying my x 4 m 40 I which I actually preferred to recently driven x 3 m which in ideal settings on open road smooth surface was great but in day to day driving too hyped like 10. Ups of coffee continually. Also enjoyed a 550 more so than a m5 for same reason. From your review it would appear that my priorities of ride comfort looks quality and interior all appear reviewed a s consistently high level My I 4 m50 due in 3-4 months
@davesax11
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong focus. Retro would be manual transmissions. Do these perform / feel comparable to an ICE vehicle? reliability? I suspect the i4s will certainly hold their own.
@SS-1293
2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Well done sir!
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@FinalVibes
2 жыл бұрын
The i4 M50 is the equivalent to the M440i, not the M4. It was never meant as a full-on M.
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
According to BMW the i4 M50 is the first electric car developed by M Division. That makes it an “M” car in our book, as well as BMW’s. Same way the new iX M60 is one too.
@moa6705
2 жыл бұрын
Support your videos, cheers
@kab7044
2 жыл бұрын
I think you have the range backwards, the I40 is rated at 360 miles and the M50 is rated at 316 miles.
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
I shall take this up with the BMW Product Manager who gave me the information……
@garymorris801
2 жыл бұрын
Looks fab
@theRappinSpree
2 жыл бұрын
I think it should definitely be considered in the M Sport bracket like the 340i, 400i etc. rather than a proper M car.
@RDowson
2 жыл бұрын
M Performance at the very least
@markuserbeldinger9674
2 жыл бұрын
I like your video but I think you need to wait for a BMW i4 M which is supposedly coming out. The i4 M50 is Not a Real M car in my mind just like the M340 or M240.
@ALEMAN42324
2 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy the M50? I leave near the mountain and in case of snow I would love to drive a 4 wheel drive.
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
Then its not the car for you......
@dasheight203
2 жыл бұрын
I really don't think this car will come with those M sport seats or the M stripped seat belts, nor will you have the option to get them added on. I think its a bit miss leading by BMW
@danielhuffman
2 жыл бұрын
It’s configurable on BMW’s site. I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t ship M styled seats in an M car…
@dasheight203
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhuffman Is it really? I'm not seeing the option for M sport seats and M stripped seat belts
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
The seats and belts are standard on this car.
@dasheight203
2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEV I don't think so
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
@@dasheight203 The Sports Seats are standard on U.K. i4 M50 models. That is the car I was testing.
@EVMYT
2 жыл бұрын
Its an M Sport not an M car. It handles like a boat. Look how the whole car bucks under power, its far too softly sprung in sport mode. For a car slower than a Model 3 Performance, it rocks and rolls (in a bad way) constantly. I just couldn't like it. The Tech isnt anything special either, sure the idrive works super smooth and looks very pretty but underneath, the self driving features were useless and it cant even self park in an empty carpark. I really wanted to love this car and would have ordered in a heartbeat if they delivered, they just didn't. To beat a Tesla with its own charging network and regular updates it has to be a lot more car and it isnt. Its better built than a Tesla and attractive enough but the handling and lack of quality cutting edge tech is unforgivable. What use is a great all around view camera system if it cant park in a bay itself unless theres a car either side? What use is assisted driving tech that is a decade behind Tesla?. Its a BMW, dressed to look like its better than it actually is. The beauty is only skin deep. Underneath the drivetrain is just off the shelf GKN, no frunk as its packaged badly, no legroom in the back and a transmission tunnel it doesn't need through the middle. The suspension is very soft and comfortable if you like that you will be happy. Its no sports car. Finally is it cool? Nope, its a BMW. Ask any kid if they would want a Tesla or BMW and they wont say BMW. Its visually more attractive than a Tesla to my eye and the fit and finish is great but its not a cool car to turn heads in. Sorry. In the meantime Tesla just pushed out a holiday update with 14 New features/games and a whole new user interface for free. BMW is walking in a race. Have they not realised that EV is a Tech purchase more than a car purchase? From tyre to roof an EV is all new cutting edge tech, it needs to be state of the art and kept updated like any tech these days and BMW feel asleep at the wheel to my eye. Practically every review is by a fossil car driver and not an existing EV owner. That means they miss all the EV nuances that they would only be aware of as an owner. This is a very good car in many ways, not an M car but a very good car but its a poor EV when you consider the competition. Overall id agree with the review. For £75k id expect more.
@SamfromSparta
2 жыл бұрын
The suspension is adjustable, air in the rear and adjustable dampeners. So you can switch between comfort and hard driving depending if your kids or you grandma is in the car. The drunk is over rated. Gimmick. I’d rather have a large trunck where I can put in big boxes with ease. The tech is amazing, self parking that actually works, a heads up display so your not taking glancing to a center screen like in the poverty edition teslas (3 & Y). You can switch between regular driving and regenerative mode in a flick of a button. And in real life tests the m50 beats the Tesla in 0-60. (Tesla record their 60 times rolling a foot over the start line). Go see car and driver reviews. Bmw are notorious for under rating their cars. Having driven both that’s my 5cents worth. And don’t get me started on the paint and build quality, the egg shaped design and plastic hub cap like wheels. I’m out RIP Tesla
@curlyjoe5020
Жыл бұрын
But the Tesla is spotty quality, looks like crap and it nothing special, either. Most folks don't need 'assisted driving'. Why do folks who like Tesla always talk about the tech and handling to make up for garbage build? The vast majority of drivers want a solid car that drives well in their commutes, around town and on the highway. Most aren't going to take advantage of 'the potential' because that's unnecessary for adults and we won't be going on winding roads as fast as we can just to test a car. That's little boy stuff. BMW is a true luxury car, not a faux - wannabe 'luxury car' with lots of tech that fails as often as it works (ghost braking).
@jeffreylinehan1613
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not an M car. It’s an M ‘light’ the same as an M440i is with the most sporty engine before becoming an M car which in that case is the M4. They are similar cars but different driving dynamics. So this is exactly what your Z car was, an M inspired Z not a Z inspired M. Pity the entire premise of the review was biased incorrectly calling it an M as it shouldn’t have been judged as such. I suspect you may have had a completely different review if you had known that. The internal build code is G26 for an i4. If it was an M car it would have a separate build code, the current 5 series is a G30, the current M5 is an F90. Clearly not an M.
@ChristopherBennett81
2 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/o5Cfk4FrcHildqg "When developing the BMW i4 M50 - the first fully-electric performance car from BMW M GmbH- the focus was on a precise and superior chassis combined with long-distance comfort. Racing driver Charlie Martin was joined by David Ferrufino, the project manager leading the development of the BMW i4 M50" getting tired of chasing comments on this from everybody that wants it to fit into the M lite category as there is no thumping engine..
@kingsterre
2 жыл бұрын
I think you lack the sound, the emissions and the lesser weight of a M combustion engine
@SP-sl6dj
2 жыл бұрын
If you keep up this frequency of videos I might as well cancel Netflix and just stick with KZitem premium 👍
@Petelmrg
2 жыл бұрын
Until they develop a proper platform for their evs these are all too compromised and cannot offer the real potential of electric power.
@jeffreylinehan1613
2 жыл бұрын
They have a bespoke platform for ev. What they’ve done to allow transition to a full ev market and make cars efficiently is they are using existing platforms which can use any power train. It means they can build a diesel 4 series before the i4 and a petrol 3 series after it. Both the 3 series and 4 series are built in the same factory as the i4 on the same production line as the chassis is the same. The next chassis in development will be designed primarily with ev in mind but can use an ICE engine also.
@SuperHumhum
2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where the advantages of a dedicated EV platform are? I tried to compare it to the EQS and other similar cars and the only negative point I could find is the transmission tunnel in the back. Otherwise no compromises at all. It has even the similar space in the front and back as the EQS which is a much bigger car. So where are the advantages?
@djdalby
2 жыл бұрын
Carwow just showed it dusting the model 3 performance so I have no idea what you are talking about.
@Petelmrg
2 жыл бұрын
@@djdalby - sorry - if the drag race gods at carwow say it’s better then that’s it then.
@kingsterre
2 жыл бұрын
Tesla fanboys usually criticize the I4 for the shaft tunnel decreasing space for a 3rd person in the rear. For that argument to be relevant (for the few owners that often have rear seat passengers), you must determine if the Model 3 is built for 5 persons. Is it? The maximum load in a Model 3 is 307-370kg depending on year model and options. Clue: how much luggage can 5 people with average weight 80kg carry in a Model 3?
@Its-me..
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@thezanzibarbarian5729
2 жыл бұрын
Great review. We need more of _that cat_ though 8-))... Who'd have thought that a review on an EV car would have had a _cat*_ in it!!?? * _Cat,_ as in a catalytic converter 8-))...
@SamfromSparta
2 жыл бұрын
Based on its 0-60 time alone it should be considered an m car
@zaphodsbluecar9518
2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could get your hands on an i4 M40? I'd be interested whether M50 is worth the extra... And is the i4 'compromised' by being an ICE derivative?
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
Watch this space......
@zaphodsbluecar9518
2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEV Good Man! 🙂 🏴
@izo77
2 жыл бұрын
Is your "will there be an electric AMG" question a rhetorical pirouette? There already is the AMG EQS 53. And contrary to BMW, Mercedes is serious about electrification as the EQS and the EQE show. But could you please tell me why is BMW pushing the M version of the i4, when it is generally considered a disappointment, and even if it wasn't, it would represent 5% of sales? Why don't they let us see the normal i4? It’s ridiculous: the local BMW dealer was happy to announce that an i4 test car had finally arrived and, oh! surprise, it's only once I was on the premises that I discovered that it's an M...and walked away. The i4 is a half-baked compromise that will leave petrol heads suspicious and EV enthusiasts disappointed. The iX is an obscene monstrosity. So, where does that lead us? A 7 and a 5 in the next two years that will be the same lukewarm adaptations and please be kind enough to wait for the real thing in 2025 with an electric 3 series sitting on the "Neue Plattform"...
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
Let me first of all apologise for my oversight. Well, oversight, or perhaps not explained correctly. You see I did forget about the AMG EQS53, but I was referring more to the C Class going electric with an AMG version, although I wasn’t clear about that, so apologies. In fairness to BMW, I was offered an i4 eDrive 40 to test, but I chose the M50 as they were explaining how it was the first electric M car and I wanted to film the video on that basis, so I too could be held accountable. I am planning on testing the 40 (which I suspect will be the better car in fairness) in the near future, so again, my fault. It does appear a compromise at first, but I do sort of get where they are coming from. They are trying not to scare away a solid customer base whilst still turning to switch them to EV, so it’s a cautionary step. I can only assume that the local dealer to you feels they wanted to run the flagship car to impress people rather than be realistic about sales. I remember when I worked with Citroen back in the early 1990’s when we were launching the then new ZX and they sent us two top of the range demonstrators when all we wanted was the basic diesels as that is what we sold 95% of the time. It’s always a difficult balance. Anyway, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
@izo77
2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEV Thank you very much for the extensive and heartfelt reply. As you might have inferred from my previous comments, I'm mostly interested in the comedy undertones of your channel (may they multiply and prosper). Is chatting about EVs a sustainable hobby? Doubt plagues me more and more... But enough introspection. An electric AMG C class? Wunderschön! But how about an electric C class first? EQS, EQE, EQ...ah, we could've had it all, but Mercedes ruined symmetry (and common decency) with an SUV. Electric C class? Another 2 years of hoping, I'm afraid. About the Lederhosen. I suspect from the beginning that they are not serious about the i4. Production ressources and marketing humdrum are clearly devoted to the iX. The i4 is the stale crackers that you get served because dinner is late. And dinner is due in 2025... And now for the pièce de résistance: you had to flog Citroëns on unsuspecting British customers? Well, we all have sinned in our youth. And since you have become the brave champion of the Honda e, I can't help but to forgive. Happy holidays, thank you very much for the great work of 2021, and best wishes for 2022! ps: In order to avoid any fruitless controversy, I'm constitutionally authorised to depreciate French cars. It's one of the rare privileges that come with the passport.
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
@@izo77 then boy, are you going to love our last review of the year! Tres bien!
@izo77
2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEV "A Goddess and a Romanian tractor enter in a bar..."
@djdalby
2 жыл бұрын
Driving on city roads on a rainy day is not going to give you any conclusion on overall performance. I get that you said you need to give it a proper drive, well, do that. Take it to a track or at least a back road on a sunny day. Go beyond what every other EV channel does and just poddle though town and blip the pedal a couple times.
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
To be able to do that Derek would be wonderful, however, logistics of timings (not to mention weather) is somewhat out of our control. I did drive the car on some nice, winding country roads (we weren't even close to the city) but it just isn't possible to have a track handy. Also, that isn't very representative of where the majority of people would use the car, and as we try to be "real world" that is where we test - in the real world, with real weather conditions. Have no fear, however, as we will soon be testing the i4 eDrive 40 so I will get a bit more "under the skin" of that car.
@djdalby
2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEV Appreciate the reply. I understand what you are saying about the logistics and I'm sure the actual business of what you are doing is more complicated than I might suspect. I just still feel to ask the question "is it an M car" you cannot really answer that question before really taking it to the edge and some light track use. I get not every M owner will track their car, but it's still an expectation of many owners out there enough to classify it as a real world use case. I just feel it comes off as a bit cheap to deny it that M badge but not really give it a proper go of it. I hope you will revisit it down the road on a sunny day, perhaps versus the M3. I'd watch that and skip the other EV test channels that would just move on to the next press car available instead. Plus putting "BMW verses...." in a video title prints views. :)
@AutoEV
2 жыл бұрын
@@djdalby Thank you for your courteous and considered response. You have grasped exactly what I would like to do, and that is spend more time with the car over a variety of circumstances. As an ex-M car owner (and having driven countless others over the past 30 years in the motor trade) I set the bar high for this car, but not without justification. BMW themselves were very keen to tell us media types that this car has indeed been developed by the M Department and they are marketing it as the very first electric M car, so they have opened themselves up for this fall if the car fell short. Now, don't get me wrong, it is a very good car. I'd have one over a Tesla Model Performance any day of the week. You can feel the chassis balance is in another class to that car. I'd also suggest that it has the measure of the Polestar 2 with the Performance Pack (although I prefer the Polestar for everything else including styling). We will be revisiting the i4 very soon as we will be testing the eDrive 40 next, but your suggestion of comparing it to an M3 is a really good idea and putting the car up against a formidable rival to see if BMW's claims hold water. I suppose in the grand scheme of things, the car felt like it was holding something back a little. It felt a little too "safe" for want of a better word. I felt like there was a layer of refinement, a layer of security if you will, that wasn't allowing me to exploit the outer realms of the car that you get with a M3 or M5. The rawness was missing, and I don't think that can be attributed to an EV platform as we know that others have made EVs engaging, not least BMW themselves with the MINI Electric. Let's do as you suggest and delve a bit deeper later on and revisit this after that. Thank you again for watching and of course, taking the time to comment and respond. Bryan @ AutoEV.
@djdalby
2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEV Thanks again for the additional insight into your testing and comparisons. I know we have been saying the latest M cars have felt a bit safer and refined with every passing generation. My previous E46 M3 felt more "raw" and "visceral" than my E92 M3 and from my test drives that trend has only continued and accelerated with the F and G generations. The cars get faster and more refined, but they lose the edge previous cars had. I don't blame car manufactures for this mind you. Government efficiency and safety regulations have done away with that era of lively (great sounding high rpm NA engine) cars. This is why I'm interested so much in the modern era comparison to the current M3. Otherwise with every new generation I believe we could say the new model doesn't earn an M badge EV or not. Like if BMW could put in the exact engine noise and vibrations of a modern M3 into the i4 M50 would we even notice at this point? I look forward to that future video and will certainly give it a watch.
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