►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: kzitem.info 00:00 Best luxury EV sedan comparison 00:30 BMW i7 (7 Series EV) 45:12 Mercedes EQS 1:18:19 Tesla Model S 1:51:06 Genesis G80 EV 2:22:51 Nio ET7 3:09:58 Lucid Air 3:44:36 Which large EV sedan to buy? #BMW #Mercedes #Tesla Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
@point4894
Жыл бұрын
i like animal skin. It's eco-friendly because we eat meat and leather is free bonus.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. They can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even from plant-based materials (like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum). Or the Polestar 3 e.g. is using pine oil. And even if you still create a leatherette seat the classic way with petroleum base without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is very little in comparison to how much oil is used for other car parts or how much oil is burned for fuel or heating. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en). So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. Another interesting article is here: www.collectivefashionjustice.org/articles/is-vegetable-tanned-leather-sustainable-lets-do-some-leather-myth-busting#:~:text=Often%20listed%20as%20a%20'pro,the%20method%20of%20tanning%20used. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensfin: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqaItJ-NcqCjpaw New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1m9qv4yAcGSGh3Y More and more natural materials are rising: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4iJ2Yx7p6l5d6Q or kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGeXtI6bqJOloHo Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4aVqaqCpZN3n34 For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aGgqXWjqmOQa3o Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the first misuse case, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the priority use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down or even murdered on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@point4894
Жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl thank you for your responsiveness. I see some problems in your arguments: 1) You write about reducing CO2 emissions cause ditching animals skin, but in reality you don't reduce CO2, because animals growing for meat, not for car leather. Leather is a useful side effect. I saw some leatherette in difference cars and always i can feel difference with close eyes. I like thick natural leather, it's much nicer. 2) I love animals and the same against animal cruelty. In your link we see examples of terrible cruelty. Animals have their throats cut without stunning... European regulations give muslims permission on the viоlence murdеring on rеligion grounds, it's called "HАLАL FOOD". It's very big problem about it the most people silent. Animal husbandry is not equal to violence. There are technologies of killing without torment for animals. The life of animals should be comfortable. Efforts should be aimed at combating violence, not animal husbandry. This is not a whim, meat is necessary for a person to maintain health, and it's also very tasty for many people.
Hi. Thomas, if I am not exaggerating, you are ahead of all car journalists in introducing new cars . keep up mate.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Please recommend 😎
@autochampwandelen
10 ай бұрын
BMW i7, I reviewed it and I love that theatre back seat ❤
@rune54321
Жыл бұрын
ET7 for me please. Model S as a second!
@halhansen778
10 ай бұрын
Wow! Luxury FULL comparisons. AutoG is the BEST on the web.
@autogefuehl
10 ай бұрын
🙌🙌
@fasst27
10 ай бұрын
OMG, the depreciation on the BMWs after warranty runs out will be crazy!
@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for committing to this video. I really enjoyed the 3 hours, and this is a topic that really interested me. At the end, Genesis is my kind of brand because you get a lot of value from the money you pay. I also like the fact they are underrated as conspicuous luxury cars get stolen the most.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
@rafawachol6500
11 ай бұрын
@@autogefuehl ii
@florinvid
9 ай бұрын
The i7 wins by far. Best quality interior, tech, performance, luxury, quietness, comfort. Genesis is from 5 yrs ago in terms of tech and design. Tesla is ikea, Merc is not where it should be based on price. My 2 cents By the way, turning nomi off was really funny 😂
@Miata822
Жыл бұрын
I got my Lucid Air GT just over a year ago. Aside from the convenience to its range and charging speed that make long journeys effortless, I am most attracted to its driving dynamics. The car has a comfortable ride in every driving mode but becomes noticeably more firm in the higher modes when pressed. I particularly enjoy driving rather quickly on mountain and canyon roads and the Lucid is ideal for that. While I have not driven it over about 240kph it does feel quite stable and fully controlled at that speed. The Lucid Air is nicely furnished and will be quite comfortable for passenger on normal trips, but it is really designed for the driving enthusiast, someone who gets pleasure from engagement in the driving experience yet needs a practical car.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback !
@markechio
10 ай бұрын
The lucid is an awesome car!!!
@rolieg81
7 ай бұрын
OMG that two tone bemer is just gorgeous 😍
@STAK_22
Жыл бұрын
I don't care if my EV comes with Leather, matter of fact, I Prefer it! I am also okay with High-Quality Luxurious materials like how the Lucid Air has though.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. They can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even from plant-based materials (like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum). Or the Polestar 3 e.g. is using pine oil. And even if you still create a leatherette seat the classic way with petroleum base without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is very little in comparison to how much oil is used for other car parts or how much oil is burned for fuel or heating. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en). So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. Another interesting article is here: www.collectivefashionjustice.org/articles/is-vegetable-tanned-leather-sustainable-lets-do-some-leather-myth-busting#:~:text=Often%20listed%20as%20a%20'pro,the%20method%20of%20tanning%20used. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensfin: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqaItJ-NcqCjpaw New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1m9qv4yAcGSGh3Y More and more natural materials are rising: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4iJ2Yx7p6l5d6Q or kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGeXtI6bqJOloHo Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4aVqaqCpZN3n34 For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aGgqXWjqmOQa3o Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the first misuse case, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the priority use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down or even murdered on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@Dansk55
10 ай бұрын
Every time I have driven a Tesla, they did not feel like a luxury brand. Just a little better than standard. I would argue a Lexus is far more comfortable inside and FAR better build quality
@alansammut1
8 ай бұрын
Many thanks for creating such informative and high quality content. This video commentary was special in particular as car production sustainability should feature higher up in the manufacturer's agendas. One point however needs to be addressed : while prices of cars are spiralling upwards, quality and durability is dwindling down with the eventual replacement of these cars at very premature ages.
@autogefuehl
8 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@Wised1000
Жыл бұрын
I have used the EQS 580 in some of the coldest winter temperatures on the planet, north central WI. It has never provided less than 275 miles of range despite not having a heat pump. Using eco on the AC and keeping your speed at 65mph it still provides longer range than most cars do in summer. I would love to see actual numbers on how much better the heat pump does.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Eco AC indeed makes the difference because it heats up the car later. Depends then if u can live with that
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the report!
@Wised1000
Жыл бұрын
@Autogefühl I dont take my jacket off when I drive. On eco plus the cabin still can maintain 65 degrees without a problem. As Im sure you are aware when it -30 outside, the last thing you want is for the cabin to be at 80🤣
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Hehe. Will get heat pump with next model year change afaik. Lets see
@gwes3747
Жыл бұрын
3 h 48 min??? Das überschreitet mein Maß an Interesse und Aufmerksamkeit bei weitem.
@user-kv3kc8cb3d
10 ай бұрын
His Englidh is very clear!!!
@autogefuehl
9 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@_kevin723
10 ай бұрын
Genesis G80
@chipsen3359
Жыл бұрын
BMW Mercedes 👍
@elroz1675
Жыл бұрын
Thomas vs Nomi! 😅
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
😂
@destral9261
10 ай бұрын
Que bueno El programa gracias
@goldeneye9381
Жыл бұрын
BMW all day
@xxxyoung1941
Жыл бұрын
BMW - best interior luxury; Mercedes - best ride comfort; Tesla - best software; Nio - best recharging/swapping experience; Lucid - best drivetrain technology.
@rianrahmanto8069
Жыл бұрын
Grab your Coffea and Snacks, Ladies and Gentleman,,😂😂
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
enjoy =)
@gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
Ай бұрын
que lux vamos por el millon de vistas gracias ............
@teslarex
8 ай бұрын
One pedal driving makes regen always there. Very rarely do you move foot to brake. 200k mile model S with original brakes including pads (and without permanent magnet motors)
@agemmm
Жыл бұрын
Comparing completely different size of cars... Should be i5 vs EQE vs Model S vs ET7
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
They dont have something else with equal length
@srinivasanramamoorthy9026
10 ай бұрын
Nice video which proves again that while other brands catch up Tesla is still the one to beat in 2023
@hamadhamad6121
Жыл бұрын
BMW
@PaulMeier-cu3ds
Жыл бұрын
I realise that these comparison videos make use of previous reviews, but the careful comparison is especially useful in one place. Thank you Thomas and Brian. If I look at road engineering clearly BMW and Mercedes still have it probably in that order. The suspension, 4W steering, and general poise are still wonderful. For luxurious comfort, I agree with Thomas that BMW now have that. Where the German models here have lost it is that they seem to mistake glossy, novelty, gadgets, and complexity for luxury; in my view luxury is usually defined by the discreet absence of those things. The interior which looked most luxurious to me was that of the Genesis, despite its other faults. I also liked the Lucid, partly because of Brian’s believable hard sell, but also for the future promise. I liked the Tesla but there are at least two showstoppers for me: everything on a touch screen which could be on a touch screen; and no Apple CarPlay. Besides I think the Plaid is dangerous in the way that really old time Porsches were dangerous.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@013839684
10 ай бұрын
You should come to Serbia to see our new autobahn's... To test cars here... We also have nice test track
@JPPDK1
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the blue
@hotconductor4749
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to pickup a Lucid Air but Lucid's service network is incredibly weak. Barely any repair centers aside from the west coast.
@teslarex
8 ай бұрын
Limo rear seat Is not something most of us need. Our kids are in back. Good rear seat room is enough. We are the drivers (or FSD). Hatchback design is needed-we can put large amounts of luggage/bicycles.
@nickcholeva6844
Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, if it wasn't for the looks, I would definitely go for the BMW. I don't know exactly what is wrong but BMW's new designs and I aren't good friends. Tesla's technology is probably the best, and the car is hence the best EV I guess, but I don't think Tesla's quality matches its high level of technology, unfortunately, neither does Mercedes' by the way, which is too bad. Lucid is as you say simply too expensive, though it looks awesome. This leaves me with Genesis(for the moment China is out) which I think looks really great, not least inside, and is built by Hyundai which also is known to build really good cars.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Good thoughts!
@tonypaca3015
Жыл бұрын
none of the genesis come even close to the nio et7. nio et7 is as comfortable and quieter than the bmw 7 series, it was tested its not my opinion. genesis lacks in everything including tech. you can ask your nio to program in advance and do anything if the battery percentage gets at 15 or 10% which is something that tesla dont do and i own a model y. nio is crazy and i have seen some model s owners switching to the et7 when they test drive it in europe. i can tell my nio to turn off everything that is heavy on battery like ambient light, adequate volume, unnecessary memory usage, massage seats etc etc so it can be more efficient and the car does it. not even mentioning the benefit of battery swap which will allow me to get a 200kwh battery with 1500km range 3 years from now possibly
@teslarex
8 ай бұрын
Plaid power gives you such peace of mind and safety especially on Autobahn (I’m I’m US) I had a ludicrous model S And it got me out of a dangerous situation safely because of the power. Escaped to a lane with rear- oncoming freeway traffic. Other cars you think about the power and 0-60. Plaid you don’t. It’s there. Plaid “cheating” with figures. Still blows away most everything.
@CT37BN
Жыл бұрын
Genesis to pick. Prettiest of the bunch is NIO but has the most annoying reminder tech. Lucid pricing too ridiculous.
@gbej1
Жыл бұрын
The fact that BMW is overtaking Mercedes for luxury and comfort should be a big concern for Mercedes as they are meant to be the bench in luxury for vehicles in their class. This is coming from someone who owns a Mercedes
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree
@ogabchemseddine1654
Жыл бұрын
You're a BMW fanboy, not even owner lol
@gbej1
Жыл бұрын
@@ogabchemseddine1654 I’m certainly not a BMW fan boy and I don’t own a BMW (although I had 3 successive modes several years ago), I own a Mercedes. I’m just stating facts. Both Mercedes and BMW nowadays make pretty ugly vehicles but BMW drives better, are faster (than equivalent Merc models) and better built quality which I’m not shy to admit. My dad’s Mercedes vehicles of the 80s were more comfortable than many of those made today. Mercedes better get this act together otherwise they will be left behind.
@Miata822
Жыл бұрын
It was an easy task for BMW after Mercedes spent all their budget dolling up the EQS like a cheap bordello.
@publicsectordirect982
Жыл бұрын
Bmw has been ahead of mercedes for most aspects for decades
@xcaliburG37S
10 ай бұрын
Old vid but true, pound for pound the q60 is it.
@Dark_Vader888
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison. The Tesla impressed me the most as a non fan in the past! I think it could use a radical restyle but it's come a long ways.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks keep following!
@jonpetter8921
Жыл бұрын
Not in luxury segment. It s even the last one.
@Danin4985
Жыл бұрын
Having owned Teslas since 2013, it has the worst interior materials, worst quality for both interior and exterior. Also, the NVH is rather bad in all Teslas. Exterior color choices are minimal and basic. Ditto for the interiors. Their service is astoundingly bad. Which is why I will never buy another Tesla. My next EV will be either the MBZ EQE sedan or the BMW i5. Leaning towards the i5 right now, but it’s a touch choice.
@G82Watts
7 ай бұрын
@@Danin4985the i5 has amazing interior feels like it floating with their new air suspension (from rolls royce since BMW owns them) they took alot of their tech implemented into it. Looks amazing too. Definitely has a presence. Like a big bulky bmw muscle car
@Danin4985
7 ай бұрын
@@G82Watts I test drove the I-5 yesterday, and I have to agree wholeheartedly with you. This car just wowed me on the test drive, and I am a picky evaluator. I drove the car fairly hard around the corners and over rough roads to evaluate the suspension and ride. The car feels very refined, composed and luxurious. Materials are excellent. Couple of downsides were the numb, soft steering (both of my Teslas have numb steering too), somewhat surprisingly - more body lean than I expected for a BMW, even in sport mode. However, all the other pluses far outweighed the minuses.
@MSAVS
10 ай бұрын
Mersedes bens 👍👍👍👍
@victormena1501
9 ай бұрын
That’s not a bio,it’s a Xpeng P7
@gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
6 ай бұрын
que lux por el millon de vistas gracias .......
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Жыл бұрын
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@GraysonA
Ай бұрын
G80 does have a small frunk under that lid, just like the other e-GMP cars.
@jacobfavreault4067
8 ай бұрын
Would have been good to see Lucid Air replace Tesla in this video as it is a more "real" luxury car. Eluxe cars are definitely the next generation of luxury
@larshartmann609
11 ай бұрын
Für mich sofort den 7ER in Weiß oder Kupfer / Schwarz 2 Tone. ❤ Aber als V8..
@deficator750
10 ай бұрын
nio for the win
@DrTropics
Жыл бұрын
i7 wins in luxury and looks. The Mercedes looks like a boiled potato. Lucid is nice. Tesla...just no.
@G82Watts
7 ай бұрын
I7 is the obvious choice. Blacked out black rims 🔥 saw one the other day and it just screams boss
@jorgevelarde7065
11 ай бұрын
The best!
@alexandregibert7221
10 ай бұрын
Le range sport est plus puissant p550e , 400 ch thermique et 262 ch en électrique ⚡️
@jorgeluiscapiello414
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I don't like that front (i7) at all.
@teslarex
8 ай бұрын
Teslas first principles are best. No key just carry your phone (Bluetooth). No ionizers chemical perfumes. Medical grade filtration/bioweapons mode. No levers buttons. Most functions are intuitive and automatic-shifting, driving (FSD), profiles transferred vehicle to vehicle (from phone key-no buttons to push). Infrastructure. Supercharger is best function and price. Efficiency built in-even rich people don’t want to waste money.
@G82Watts
7 ай бұрын
BMW has all that and better self driving for highways when u actually need to use it. Also tesla interior just screams cost cutting. They use "minimalistic" design as an excuse to cut manufacturing cost down and drive their profit margins up. It's just a code word for coat cutting. Having to scroll while driving for every little thing is not a luxury. Tesla has no apple carplay, no HUD, no gauge clusters in some models, no ambient lighting, air suspension..etc. nothing feels like ur in something special or expensive when ur inside a tesla. It's just blah
@aravindraj5773
11 ай бұрын
Great backscore !!
@STAK_22
Жыл бұрын
I'd take the: 1) Lucid Air 2) BMW i7
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@asingc
Жыл бұрын
24:22 I know, if you could just say hey Nomi, lower my windows by 50% in a BMW, that's be great. 😂😂😂
@013839684
10 ай бұрын
Navak is the name of track in Serbia....
@JCW-jx6ld
4 ай бұрын
Yes trade all the Ferraris for Aston Martins and Jags
@ronaldreid4944
10 ай бұрын
I disagree with the idea of avoiding animal products altogether. Personally, I prefer leather over vinyl or pleather. It's worth noting that leather is actually a byproduct of the beef industry, so it's not as if using leather is somehow less renewable than other materials. It's true that electric vehicles are not entirely environmentally friendly, since the process of mining minerals for battery production can have a negative impact on the planet. So please, everyone needs to stop with the save the planet crap when it comes to EVs.
@autogefuehl
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGeXtI6bqJOloHo). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqaItJ-NcqCjpaw And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzitem.info/news/bejne/l6yOy4SHopF-dKA New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1m9qv4yAcGSGh3Y More and more natural materials are rising: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4iJ2Yx7p6l5d6Q Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4aVqaqCpZN3n34 For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aGgqXWjqmOQa3o Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@markechio
10 ай бұрын
I would take the lucid Air
@ksoman953
Жыл бұрын
Lots of respect to Tesla for what they did for this industry, but to put an S in a category of luxury vehicles is a downright joke. Price alone cannot be a qualification for such a thing. But I could be wrong. There was a time when you could drive an Italian super car off the dealer's lot, and it'd fail... what do I know?
@vilebastage
10 ай бұрын
Nah, you are correct. A Tesla is not a luxury car. It's an expensive appliance... like a wifi connected washing machine.
@mariaruiz497
9 ай бұрын
Yo quiero uno así es una potencia
@tonypaca3015
Жыл бұрын
nio et7 if bellow 80k euro or bmw 7 series with 100k budget
@Jacob-uk4kl
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keep pointing out that there's good alternatives to animal skin in cars in 2023
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
highly appreciated - please keep supporting!
@shakhbozyusupov6331
10 ай бұрын
Easy win for et7
@billpriddy9326
Жыл бұрын
7 all day long
@andgate2000
Жыл бұрын
I like real leather...its sustainable.
@autogefuehl
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. They can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even from plant-based materials (like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum). Or the Polestar 3 e.g. is using pine oil. And even if you still create a leatherette seat the classic way with petroleum base without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is very little in comparison to how much oil is used for other car parts or how much oil is burned for fuel or heating. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en). So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensfin: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqaItJ-NcqCjpaw New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1m9qv4yAcGSGh3Y More and more natural materials are rising: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4iJ2Yx7p6l5d6Q or kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGeXtI6bqJOloHo Another interesting article is here: www.collectivefashionjustice.org/articles/is-vegetable-tanned-leather-sustainable-lets-do-some-leather-myth-busting#:~:text=Often%20listed%20as%20a%20'pro,the%20method%20of%20tanning%20used. Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4aVqaqCpZN3n34 For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aGgqXWjqmOQa3o Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the first misuse case, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the priority use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down or even murdered on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@johanjonsson
Жыл бұрын
Tesla is not luxury nor premium.
@Dan_Yerlll
10 ай бұрын
Yes it is?
@sunnysunny-yw8no
10 ай бұрын
Then wat is it mf?
@junyaiwase
10 ай бұрын
@@sunnysunny-yw8notrash, definitely not luxury thats for sure
@SDot-dp9xm
10 ай бұрын
Welp looking at the sales numbers it appears most people prefer "the trash" so all the other "luxury" manufacturers need to fall in line
@johanjonsson
10 ай бұрын
@@SDot-dp9xm Not debating sales figures. Tesla sits under Premium and Prestige in every chart I read. Only Tesla fan-boys and Americans will beg to differ.
@LanceJDanks
Жыл бұрын
Tesla S/ light years ahead in battery technology and range. fantastic infrastructure that none of the other EVs have.
@j800q
Жыл бұрын
But horrible interior
@LanceJDanks
Жыл бұрын
@@j800q I would have to agree, the Mercedes and BMW are absolute gaudy, with way too many buttons and knobs that only confuse the driver.
@jonpetter8921
Жыл бұрын
If i remember right Lucid, and EQS has more range than Model S and the range different between Model S and i7 is not that significant. And if you drive in big european cities CCS coverage is great. It also offers more 350kw chargers than Tesla SC.
@G82Watts
7 ай бұрын
Lucid and bmw i7 have more range then tesla. Are u serious? Go watch the carwow video where they drive the cars until they die. Bmw won. Edmunds Car reviews did the same thing. As stated in both range test. Bmw gets 85% of its stated range. Tesla gets 75%
@gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
10 ай бұрын
que lux por las vistas a mis canciones gracias .......
@rg6982
Жыл бұрын
I love Mercedes but BMW have upd their game in the luxury game and clear winner here. EQS is such a let down and that "hyper" screen is a massive let down. More of an over kill and anything but luxury
@bator68
10 ай бұрын
I am in team cool. Not bad, in my humble opinion.🙂
@ValentinoX
11 ай бұрын
Mercedes and BMW have the feel rich factor. Tesla looks like a cheap car. Nio looks quite good. Conclusion, German are able to please their customers with comfort for cars at this segment.
@Random.Adventures.
Жыл бұрын
NIO all the way then Tesla
@osamaasiri4746
Жыл бұрын
I believe Lucid is the best EV in many aspects: long range, luxury, engine, aerodynamic and fast charging.
@meamail
Жыл бұрын
ET7 is the best
@andrelegeant88
Жыл бұрын
What I'm really torn about is whether to get an EV at all. Between charging infrastructure, weather influence on batteries, charge times, range, and the fact lithium-ion batteries are likely a stop gap, I keep worrying whether I should stick to an ICE.
@fakamada
Жыл бұрын
Just please follow up the current state for EVs. Things you say are more like pre-2020 era, lol.
@andrelegeant88
Жыл бұрын
@@fakamada not really. When planning a trip that would go through the Ohio and Pennsylvania turnpike, there are only charging stations once every 150 miles or so. That doesn't leave much margin for error. Regarding weather impact the video notes how much cold affects the Mercedes. Regarding price, the BMW 540i is $20,000 cheaper than the i5 M60 (though 540i hits 0-60 about a second slower because it's ICE).
@fakamada
Жыл бұрын
@@andrelegeant88 There's no error or anything. Just keep an eye your charge level in every 50 miles or so, you'll be alright. Heat pump is a must and you cannot complain about the weather in winter, unless you buy an EV with heat pump. There's no comparison left between ICE and EV. ICE is garbage. If i5 is expensive, then stick with the i4.
@PaulMeier-cu3ds
Жыл бұрын
I think the point about charging infrastructure is well made. In the UK I would not own an EV if I could not charge at home, ideally on renewable electricity. The public infrastructure here is more or less ok, but the prices can vary widely and are no longer obviously cheaper than petrol. The point about batteries is also well made. I am far from sure that ever larger and heavier batteries using rare minerals is the way to go. The extra weight really does affect the handling and efficiency. An ideal EV might have a small battery to smooth out the demand for power with an ICE generator running on something renewable such as hydrogen. The variation in performance depending on weather is not something unique to EVs but I suspect we take much more notice of it than we did with our ICE cars.
@kttk4564
10 ай бұрын
I am doing 1300 km drives in my Tesla every few weeks. I would rather take the train than an ICE. Whenever I drive one I feel like Fred Flintstone.
@jorgeluiscapiello414
Жыл бұрын
Amazing how far Chinese auto industry has gone.
@AbhishekKumar-vx9ub
Жыл бұрын
Nomi disagrees.
@fxevery1
11 ай бұрын
terrible exterior that EQS
@monibria8076
10 ай бұрын
Una belleza,🎉🎉
@1980venom
11 ай бұрын
The i7 is an ugly looking car. It might be comfortable, but if the design doesn’t work, the rest won’t work.
@teslarex
8 ай бұрын
The best Nomi is no Nomi.
@trerou4300
Жыл бұрын
Nio?? Are you sure?😅
@gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
7 ай бұрын
que lux por las vistas a mis canciones gracias ............
@DR-st8rt
10 ай бұрын
1:22:05 Build quality is beyond terrible
@Mousirelen
9 ай бұрын
Karen Sensei !! Where is that key I paid for!
@limosine
9 ай бұрын
Forty Cats!❤
@chasx7062
6 ай бұрын
Copycats??? Everyone copies everyone else!! Pablo Picasso quoted as having said that “good artists borrow, great artists steal.” It is racist to accuse the Chinese of having this as a "value". Japanese carmakers copied a lot after WWII, before they could become Master Artists If Africa could copy, they would be richer continent given their vast resources!
@ampm9771
5 ай бұрын
Any electric car is better than Tesla.
@user-ht8gh1xi4h
10 ай бұрын
❤😂🎉 safety
@shravsookarah2138
Жыл бұрын
Tesla model S ain't a luxury car. Nowhere near it.
@Jackie-Brown
Жыл бұрын
This argument is as old as Betty white. The model s is definitely cross shopped with all cars in this comparison. It actually has caused sales of the s class to tank. Especially here in California.
@jonpetter8921
Жыл бұрын
@@Jackie-Brown It s not old. Model S is not a luxury car. It s no near BMW or EQS in finishing, comfort or ride quality. And before you start with tech. The other cars are full of tech as well. Is the Model S quicker than EQS and i7 ? Yes but that has nothing to do with being luxurious.
@theipc-twizzt2789
Жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 A 100$ Android phone is full of tech as well. Doesn't mean its comparable to an Iphone.
@jonpetter8921
Жыл бұрын
@@theipc-twizzt2789 You are comparing apple and orange
@paulklp8262
10 ай бұрын
It is luxury if it is excessive and unaffordable by the masses. A Model S is exactly that.
@whyIsItSoLoud
10 ай бұрын
Why is animal-free interior listed as a good thing? I was spending that much on a car, I'd expect genuine leather not plastic
@autogefuehl
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGeXtI6bqJOloHo). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqaItJ-NcqCjpaw And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzitem.info/news/bejne/l6yOy4SHopF-dKA New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1m9qv4yAcGSGh3Y More and more natural materials are rising: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4iJ2Yx7p6l5d6Q Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4aVqaqCpZN3n34 For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aGgqXWjqmOQa3o Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@whyIsItSoLoud
10 ай бұрын
@@autogefuehl thank you for an depth, informative and sincere reply
@autogefuehl
10 ай бұрын
highly appreciate your time!
@user-ht8gh1xi4h
10 ай бұрын
1 please Me like petrol ❤😂🎉
@zedstar0
7 ай бұрын
llUCID ARE SCARED TO HAVE ANY INDEPENDANT REVIEWER!
@user-ij5uz5dm5j
4 ай бұрын
BMW gone LGTB..!!❤😂
@user-ht8gh1xi4h
10 ай бұрын
200%
@gordonSM
10 ай бұрын
BMW are trying too hard to be different their design is overly complex and ugly it's been a long time since BMW has us given us a beautiful designed car. They need to get rid of all their designers because they've lost their way by heading completely in the wrong direction. ☹☹☹☹
@allanrobinson872
3 ай бұрын
❤p 24:47 24:49 24:51
@golaoi
10 ай бұрын
Animal free seats? What has this to do with cars?
@autogefuehl
10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzitem.info/news/bejne/tGeXtI6bqJOloHo). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqaItJ-NcqCjpaw And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzitem.info/news/bejne/l6yOy4SHopF-dKA New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1m9qv4yAcGSGh3Y More and more natural materials are rising: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4iJ2Yx7p6l5d6Q Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/z4aVqaqCpZN3n34 For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aGgqXWjqmOQa3o Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@metinonal4001
10 ай бұрын
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