"Mummy, there's two ruffians with some form of a great brute of a German motorcycle on the driveway!" "Oh do go shoo them off Timothy, bloody peasants".
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
😂
@romgl4513
3 ай бұрын
"Release the hounds!"
@martinthe3rd664
3 ай бұрын
The world needs a bike that: - Rides like a GS - Looks like a Bonneville - Sounds like a Harley
@TheMissendenFlyer
3 ай бұрын
I'm a huge adventure bike fan and I love a GS me, but I do agree with you on the looks of the R1300GS, not for me either. Just a small correction - that bike you borrowed is the Tramuntana version and it's over £22,000 not the £16,500 you mentioned (that's for a fictional basic GS that I'm not sure actually exists in reality!). Enjoyed your video, I'm glad it's not just me that gave the new GS a thumbs down! ....FWIW I also agree it's a fabulous bike to ride!!
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for that Andy we did not know that. We were struggling at the price we mentioned and that takes it to another level! 👍🏼
@gzk6nk
3 ай бұрын
By the time you've speced a GS up with stuff it really needs, it's nearer £24K to £16K.
@joedudz
3 ай бұрын
When you can buy 2 or 3 great bikes for the price of one of these, the old adage " a fool and their money are easily parted" comes to mind.
@dans2971
3 ай бұрын
I know guys with big ADVs who love them and can afford them. I know guys who can’t deal with the cost and have a 650 V-Strom. It’s really about where you’re at. Some people have lots of money and just don’t care about servicing costs. Others don’t earn so much and like to wrench. It’s kinda silly to think one bike ifs ‘right’ and another ‘wrong’. It’s about your choice and to me it’s like my wife. She may not be perfect but she’s perfect for me and that’s all that counts.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@dans2971 and then are those riders who will never make a Leftist Regime supporting company richer 🤷
@Geshmaal
3 ай бұрын
Love the idea of the GS as a functional machine, I'd love one but they're far too expensive for my liking! I would like a more stripped back model with less power and fewer gadgets and gizmos for a lower price, but maybe that's just a Moto Guzzi V85TT...
@jacobwilliams1285
3 ай бұрын
Funny, in advance I knew exactly what you guys would say. Excellent bike to ride, but dont like the looks. Sums it up :D What I dont quite understand, as a big fan of this channel, is why the Ol Man doesnt understand adventure bikes, like he lays out at the end. I mean, to me its quite clear why people like it, you can still have a delicious twin cilinder sound, you can have lots of comfort, good for travelling, more wind protection, certainly more suspension travel, and you sit higher up which feels comfortable just like SUV's in the car segment, and some of them do look really good ( and many of them do not, so pick one that looks good).
@nielsmeer
3 ай бұрын
I think it comes down to what one prioritizes in their motorcycling endeavors. Some riders love the appearance of the bike when it is parked. Others like the rumble of the engine and exhaust as they are riding. Still others prefer the ability to go extra legal speeds through the twisties. Finally, there are those that prefer to explore on their bikes & don’t worry about the roads or lack their of on the way to the destination. None of those preferences is wrong and some bikes can actually cater to multiple preferences. Some of us like all of them at different times & thus have several bikes in our garage.
@bikerbeliever8169
3 ай бұрын
I think the bike is absoluetly hideous. The plastic dont bother me but just the shape of it. Its ugly like bad ugly.
@chrisjonesbath
3 ай бұрын
I have an old R1100GS and it is a really hideous beast. I bought it on function alone back in the 90s. It is a very boring to ride, but capable motorcycle and is a fast as I'd ever need with just 80bhp. It replaced an older R100/7. but I never learned to love it like I did that bike. Now I don't have to travel far from home it doesn't get used. Time to get rid of it and find a good deal on a used Sport Glide I think to put some soul back into my riding and a smile on my face. Sometimes function wins over form, but it you don't really need the function there are more important aspects to riding a motorcycle for me. A less capable bike on paper can often provide more enjoyment.
@chrissunde1104
3 ай бұрын
I really like the look of retro bikes, but I can see beauty here as well. Perhaps in a generation this will be the retro people pine for.
@JonnySundance
3 ай бұрын
Really enjoyable and I think your point re the looks, although as you say a matter of opinion, is valid. Although you do not necessarily focus on adventure bikes, I think that it would be good to get your views on the updated Moto Guzzi V85 TT, which certainly has the late 1980s early 1990s vibe. Thanks again for a good video.
@robertfox4524
2 ай бұрын
You guys are great. I wish I had a relationship with my dad like you guys have. Love your videos.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
2 ай бұрын
😊 thank you 👍🏼
@scottanderson4175
3 ай бұрын
The GS is the bike if you like to ride 😎
@I-am-not-a-number
3 ай бұрын
Hundreds of miles a day, in absolute comfort and economy.
@michaeldenherder3440
3 ай бұрын
I really like your comparison with big bird from Sesame Street 😂
@YABBAHEY1
Ай бұрын
I have a Norden 901 Ex. No beak, round headlamp. The foot position you get used to. The seat is wide enough but the padding gets quite painful after 4hrs or so. I'll be improving it w/a sheep pelt or something similar for the next trek. The GS 1300 is twice the motorcycle you want in the wilderness, fully packed w/extra fuel etc.. it'll take two people to right that beast in the mud, side of a mountain,... nah. It's a gravel double track/road only bike or "I could be camping but choose to stay in this nice hotel instead" type machine. Biggest thing I don't miss from my old Harley is now I can corner like a human being. Biggest thing I do is long distance comfort. The neglected hog in the backyard is an old cop bike & the seating position is as nerd as you can get, i.e., like sitting in a chair w/handlebars, comfortable. Oh yea, & the torque. I really miss low end torque. Don't be too quick to sell your R 18, unless it's for an even torquier machine. Nothing beats G forces w/a rumble accompaniment.
@diogomorais9938
3 ай бұрын
Owned a R1200GS but sold it last year. Test rode the 1300GS this year and I have to admit I miss the old 1200.
@ianhalliwell8604
3 ай бұрын
I think the 16 grand D'Arcy quoted was for a very base model and the one you tried wasn't basic. With all the extras they can come in at well over 20 grand. Far too rich for me that's for sure.
@brianchristensen1475
3 ай бұрын
The format of these latest batch of Videos is absolutely top notch. Loving it!
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Awesome thank you 😊
@PhilipBallGarry
3 ай бұрын
Totally agree 👍. It's like a chat down the pub 🍻
@travelinben1966
3 ай бұрын
Overpriced and overhyped imo.Thank you fellas.👍
@davidbrayshaw3529
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, nah. My neighbour had a GS 80, about 35 years ago. At the same time, two of my work mates, who were brothers of one another, had matching GS 100's. They were motorcycles. My neighbour used to ride his like a GP bike. Gee he used to hustle that thing along at a pace. I don't think they were that powerful, but boy, did it get along, just the same. And the note was divine. And this might sound ridiculous, but he was untouchable in the twisties. He loved it, we loved it. And when it fell over, he never cursed. I'm not so sure about these new ones. Any bike that comes fitted with a helipad just isn't my thing. And any helipad that comes with a whole airport attached to it isn't my thing either. Horses for courses, though. If you've got one and you love it, I'm thrilled for you, that's what bikes are about. But for me, a 140 hp, quarter of a tonne of breakable dirt bike, no thanks.
@anbukimu5292
3 ай бұрын
"Are we in trouble?" 😆
@johnnyboy1586
3 ай бұрын
I think as looks go people who like adventure bikes like the utilitarian esthetics but your right regarding say the 80s bikes look much better and moto cuzzies adventure models capture that vibe
@petersheppard6085
3 ай бұрын
The Old Man looks a bit uncomfortable....eating lunch in his bondage gear....LOL
@bidouchonsan
3 ай бұрын
🤣😂
@andyjdaviestjk
3 ай бұрын
I'm loving your videos with you guys together so good and relaxing! I think people are so wrapped up in technology that looks are second best, it's a shame I wouldn't walk away and look back at that one but if we were all the same it would be boring.
@PhilipBallGarry
3 ай бұрын
Great review as always fellas 👍 Really like the Dad & Son interaction - it's like chatting with a couple of mates ❤. Love the way the Ol' Man gets stuck straight into the salad to get it out of the way 😂
@Nilie7
3 ай бұрын
Do you own motorcycles mostly for looks, or for the fun of driving them? Both are important, and I wish I could have both maximized. But there is no perfect motorcycle. If I had to choose, I prefer a good handling bike..
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Both are important 👍🏼
@ADSCoachSimonB2112
3 ай бұрын
Truly amazing bike the BMW but too much power and too heavy for realistic adventure rides if you skill level is entry level or medium level. My GF has a BMW 310 GS and it’s a lot easier to pick up and it doesn’t break your leg if it falls on you. Even the RE Him is hard to pick up. Imagine running out of petrol and having to push this thing 1-2 miles. The cost would never get past my account. The CRF 300L and Rally seem to be the best option for us at the moment. But I have a mate going away out of state and I will mind his car and bike. Suzuki 250 Vstrom. I plan to test for a month At least I can pick it up by myself.
@MrZahir.
3 ай бұрын
Like the new style of videos - keep on bringing them!!
@Cookie-yl8uq
3 ай бұрын
Its a Bowie knife vs Swiss Army knife comparison, the Harley vs R1300/Adv discussion. Each beautiful in their own way and theres always going to be some situations where one is better. I dare say the Swiss Army knife is easier to live with in most situations, tho you may not feel like Rambo when you whip it out.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
Great work by Darcy and Ol'Man 👍 Thanks for giving us your frank opinion about this hideous creature, lads 👍
@rv9686
3 ай бұрын
Problem with the adventure segment today is that they are just selling a vision, this is not adventure bike this is marketing brochure. Bike on brochure might be great but anything above 200kg I can't consider adventure it is a tourer in such case I think I will be far better on a Triumph Speedmaster. Hell with so many extras, electronics they are even pushing car prices might as well do the trip in my car if I am going to ride 300kg comfortable motorcycle stacked to the deck. Everyone in the adventure segment that rides single trails, sand, double trails craves for a lightweight reliable machine which can take him from the street to the trails. One can only hope Suzuki will finally pull their heads from their .... and made a modern DR650 or perhaps Honda do something with the XR650, those will be the fastest selling motorcycles I can bet a beer on it.
@bikerbeliever8169
3 ай бұрын
Boom my thoughts exactly. They are too heavy and top heavy and cumbersome. Scrambler or standard upright bikes I find much more enjoyable and confidence inspiring.
@matthewjames4268
2 ай бұрын
Owned a 2010 GSA for 13 years. Its the right kind of ugly. Big, brawny and fun to ride. The new ones have lost the "look".
@Simulera
3 ай бұрын
I wrote a long comment, deleted it and will summarize. For various reasons, I don’t much like the model any more. Don’t need 145 hp. Don’t need the weight. Don’t need the way you can’t repair your own bike. Nah.
@JoJo-hc4dj
3 ай бұрын
Great video, love the vlog start and the pub lunch looked very yummy 😋 not keen on the looks of the BMW 👍🏼
@AsmodeusT
3 ай бұрын
I usually agree with the Old Man, but I must admit, when it comes to BMW's, I think we may think slightly differently. First and foremost, the bike has to do what you want it to. Otherwise, it will be a dud. The GS does exactly what someone looking for a large adventure bike is after and more. The R18 falls short. When I buy a cruiser, I am looking for style, but above all, comfort! The boxer engine has always written that bike off for me right away. I like to relax and stretch out on a cruiser, and the engine is simply in the way. Looks wise. I love all types of bikes but usually don't like adventure bikes. This GS in that BEAUTIFUL green with the gold wheels looks stunning. It reminds me of the Kawasaki Z650RS, and that is another beaut of a bike. The R18 is 90% beautiful, but that engine, for me, ruins that bike. I'm sure others love it. But I do think it's the engine turning most people off.
@Fernando90054
3 ай бұрын
This bike has a lot of strong points. The question about looks is subjective. I can see the beauty in it, as I can do the same about the R18. Both bikes agree with me in terms of looks, because I like very different things about bikes in general. The riding experience is different too, from bike to bike. This tall bikes have the virtue of visibility in city traffic or on the highway. And they overcome all the irregularities of the roads, A or B roads, everything is easy with those machines. A different exemple is the Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE, it is in the Adventure bike segment and the looks are substantially old school aesthetic values, very beautiful too. The decoration on this BMW,1300 GS is good but I would prefer the trophy version. The golden handlebars and rims on the Tramuntana version are not my cup of tea and I don’t care so much for the bits and bobs of the 719 parts option. Last week I went to Harley Dealership, to see their stunning bikes, the 2024 modern and sporty Fatbob, the Low Rider ST was there too, promising sunny afternoons of joyful rides…I just love every bike . Keep on bringing them to the channel, whatever kind you choose to show here on the channel. I know it will be fun. Thank you.
@przemek7017
3 ай бұрын
This motorcycle has all I hate. The worst is this complicated electronics. When I need to plays with my tablet I just stay home and play, I do not need another BMW GS to play with it’s gadgets instead of having fun while riding.
@Ulxaaf
3 ай бұрын
But this is basicallly just a modern motorcycling. Screens has a lot of options. Its not only this bike 😄 Wth?
@bradleyalexander5821
3 ай бұрын
I took one look at this new 1300 and purchased a 2023 R 1250 GS. For some odd reason the 1250 truly ticks all my boxes for looks. The 1300 does exactly nothing for me. I’m certain the 1300 is an excellent bike, just not for me.
@bootsmcfoolish8499
3 ай бұрын
Good old Castle Ashby. Where else in the UK can two motorcyclists chat with a bike & get tutted at for parking there, and three tourists wander down the drive without anyone muttering..? The local VSCC used to hold 1/8th mile sprints down the drive every autumn, too. Nice relaxed video vibe, chaps.
@BUGBYTE_
3 ай бұрын
This bike is not for everyone. My mom(67yrs old 5'7") rides a 1250GS. She has 60k miles on her 2020. She's looking at upgrading to one of these. You can't get her to ride anything else. She loves the power and visibility she has riding it.
@andyklick2802
3 ай бұрын
Came from Harley over a R NineT to a R1250GS. First it was all about the look, now it's about the riding experience and the comfort while doing long tours over month. But you are right: it' ugly 😅
@florislok
3 ай бұрын
We are terrorized by the same ugly design for more than twenty years now. Bikes are completely drawn by computer programs. Not only for the best streamline or fuel consumtion, but also what the majority of the customers like. Insect like design. Probably the reason why I still not part with my 1995 bike.
@borderlands6606
3 ай бұрын
You don't have much luck with the speedos on your bikes, they keep misting up : 0 Most adventure bikes will never see anything but tarmac and gravel to the campsite, so why not make a traditional tourer without the silly Dakar pretension, and add a bit of style?
@MindfulMotorcyclist
3 ай бұрын
I actually enjoyed this video, yes the 1300GS is not your normal fare but a bit of variety is nice sometimes + you guys have a similar take to me on the premium Adv offerings. Nice to have a bit of sun too!
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
@Kevin-hp5fk
3 ай бұрын
The way you approach ADV bikes is odd to me. Bikes like Harley's, or your R18 are fundamentally toys. They're made to be used occasionally for fun. ADVs are made to be used everyday, and many buyers use them everyday. My Vstrom is my daily vehicle in rain or shine. There's nothing wrong with having a bike as a toy for the weekend, but some of us buy our bikes for the practicality and usability and this GS is built for those people. If I had the space for more than one bike at home I probably wouldn't have an ADV, maybe a T120 or a new R12, and then maybe a Goldwing, but for a single one bike garage that will do everything there's no better choice than an ugly ADV.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
Tell me *ONE* good reason a HOG can't be utilized as a daily?
@davidmallia628
3 ай бұрын
@@kwakithailandon a hog you are laid back, relaxed, with no real purpose. On an adventure bike, it is all about tackling the road, off and on, setting goals, destinations, adventures. It is a swiss army knife. Both are great, but different, specific use.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@davidmallia628 you are an immensely opinionated bloke, obviously 😁.
@Kevin-hp5fk
3 ай бұрын
@@kwakithailand Go ride a Harley on freshly salted roads in BC in the winter and then do it on an ADV. Come back and tell which bike you'll do it on again. Harley's are great, I didn't say otherwise. Why is even the slightest criticism of them always taken as a personally attack by people like you? The other guy in this thread who replied to you did so politely and you immediately insult him. Like I said before, nothing wrong with having a toy.
@bikerbeliever8169
3 ай бұрын
I've owned several bikes and bought an adv bike because everyone said it is the sweet spot of bike for doing everything and I disagree completely. It's been the most disappointing of all my bikes I've owned. It's good for highway riding and handles fine, but is just too big and heavy to be used offroad and being like this is also not as entertaining as the lighter standard style motorbikes I've owned. Adv bikes are fine but not great at anything. Personally a lighter Scrambler style bike I find to be the best everyday bike. You can fit them with luggage with appropriate racks and such and are so much easier to hop on and off of when making many trips and stops in a day and handle better and are more entertaining as well and with the right tires can be way better off road for normal offroad purposes than an adv bike (depending on the Scrambler style bike you choose.) I'd rather have a notmal standard or Scrambler style bike for everyday use over an adv after having owned one after everyone saying I should. They are ok the ones I've ridden. Also it is harder to fit in tighter areas and just ain't as maneuverable.
@pixelmixture3067
3 ай бұрын
Everything is designed to filter the road / the wind … this is why i hate this bike … I don’t want a bike to filter the pleasure of riding a bike … if I want to filter I drive my SUV
@stewy62
3 ай бұрын
Quite a few defensive ADV bikers in the comments. Based on sales I’m not sure why they feel the need to convert you, it would be very boring if we all rode the same type of bike. I do think that the vast majority of ADV bikes are ugly, one exception being the old Triumph Tiger 1050. I agree with Darcy that the 1300GS is better looking than the 1250GS, one reason being it looks a lot slimmer. It still does nothing for me though and I agree with the Ol’man, far too much plastic 🇬🇧
@justdad53
3 ай бұрын
You boys are poking the hornets nest of the BMW GS mafia by making even the slightest criticism about the BMW GS . You must say it's the best bike ever and nothing has ever been better and will unlikely will be better until the next GS.😁😁 I hope you don't get canceled but I some BMW owners will unsubscribe.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Haha yes we’ve had a few.
@michielvandepol6765
3 ай бұрын
I’m a GS rider. I have had 12xx GS and GSA’s. Now own a 1300. I can take all the criticism one can throw at the bike. I can’t even agree more on criticism on the BMW company as it is the most arrogant company I have ever had the “pleasure” of doing business with. Asking premium prices for mediocre build quality……it’s a crying shame they get away with that. Yet the GS bikes ride phenomenal. And that’s the only reason to ride one.
@justdad53
3 ай бұрын
@@michielvandepol6765 Wonderful to hear your openness there is hope . Thanks
@chalklesscrafts
3 ай бұрын
Really like the more vlog style content. hope there is more of it in the future
@SS-ck3ew
3 ай бұрын
Hello the house! This genre of motorbike, the "Adventure" motorbike are the gnu Goldwings of motorcycling. I dare say that the vast majority of owners NEVER venture off road. Doubtless there are more than a few that will chime in otherwise but the troof of the matter is like a great many Goldwings and FLHs, the bikes are used for Starbucks Hopping, weekend rides and just putting around with a smile on your face. The GS1300 is kinda-sorta fugly. Beauty may well be in the eye of the beer holder but I don't drink adult beverages. I like this genre of bike quite a bit but their looks are nothing compared to a traditional looking Harley or for example, a 1982 CBX. The R18? It still loos like someone is grilling a couple of armadillo on the BBQ. The Moto Guzzi V85TT is far loverlier looking than this GS1300 and that's not damning the Goose with faint praise in any manner at all. The first thing anyone other than a genuinely blind person notices about any THING or any ONE is looks. That, along with attitude, really explains most folks aversion to Harley riders. They tend to dress like pirates and behave like recently gelded juveniles. This is also true of many owner's of fArtificial Harleys like Honda's "Fury" (what a furious name, LOL!) Kawacopies and the worst of all...Starley owners. A stereotype is more often that not, based upon reality. Most adventure bike riders are tarted up to go to Dutch Brothers or Starbucks and there's nothing wrong with that but the personal they project is one of the "rugged" outdoorsman. Pfffffft! I coined the portmanteau "sAdventue" bike because the riders going nowhere do their best to appear as if they came from somewhere. The moral of the story? The bike does not make the rider, because all too often the rider makes a fool of themselves by themselves. The BMW GS1300 looks the part. Whether or not the owners live the role is meaningless so long as said rider just enjoys the ride on what is essentially a large touring rig that is the 2 wheeled equivalent of the modern SUV. SS
@davidpersson986
3 ай бұрын
Agree the GS is ugly - slightly less so than its predecessor - but then that is not saying a lot!!
@aromaticsnail
3 ай бұрын
Can't shake the feeling BMW just went to a random Chinese factory, chose a generic model and simply glued their logo on it for the new GS. Fyi, the oldest comment on my side is a spam/bot account. Just letting you know as I noticed you guys hearted that comment. These spam comments can be spotted by their "sexy" profile image and a generic and very positive comment about the video content, community, etc., many times also sprinkled with emojis. The catch is by seeing the profile image, users are lead to click on the username to check their channel page and get invited to the scam site, usually the channel banner has the site in it, there may be a video or a short with more "sexiness".
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up!
@Scout4x
3 ай бұрын
I love classic looking motorcycles, but for an adventure bike, this 1300 GS looks very good to me. Unfortunately, since I'm a geezer, I'd probably kill myself falling off the damn thing! If I were to get a BMW it would probably be the new R12.
@Chris-on3el
3 ай бұрын
Being an owner of an ADV motorcycle I think it's a nice looking bike but as you have said it's a personal opinion, great to see you both presenting a vlog keep them coming 👍 You two are babe magnets 😂
@chrishart8548
3 ай бұрын
They moaned about the rack and the screen and the panels that's just frame the radiator. Everything on a gs provides a service.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 them Bavarians should have made the shaft drive more reliable instead of adding all that stuff "providing a service".
@chrishart8548
3 ай бұрын
@@kwakithailand I think it's probably reliable but it needs servicing. And it doesn't get serviced during the normal service. As many other things don't. Fork oil and coolant should be changed at some point but that's not really a service item either.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 them penny pinching NAZI supporters themselves suggest to replace the drive shaft at 80k kms, instead of engineering the system stronger 🤷
@Ulxaaf
3 ай бұрын
Great video as ever. But you talked too much about the looks. We already knew its not your cup of tea and that you dont like how it looks, so it was just too much. You should have test it on the road and not while standing. Cheers.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
We don’t do pov reviews, most channels do that. We do while standing.
@Ulxaaf
3 ай бұрын
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Sure, you are great at it anyway ❤🔥
@2wheeledwillie395
3 ай бұрын
Loved this video! Made me chuckle!!😂
@dertechniker8867
3 ай бұрын
Charming old man - you know how to speak to girls. Your son can learn from you 😊 Very nice episode btw.
@BlueRidgeRider
3 ай бұрын
I had an R1200GS. It was a phenomenal bike for exploring the Nevada desert. I did drop it in a ditch one time that took me almost an hour to get it back upright. I agree the 1980s GS was far better looking. All that plastic is ugly. I currently have an R1250RT which isn’t great looking but is by far the best bike I’ve owned in 54 years of riding. My Moto Guzzi V7 Stone is the bike I take out most often.
@romgl4513
3 ай бұрын
"It was a phenomenal bike for exploring the Nevada desert. I did drop it in a ditch one time that took me almost an hour to get it back upright." Phenomenal! Perfect bike.
@mockbattles
3 ай бұрын
Why do adventure bikes have to be so ugly?
@jbourodimos
3 ай бұрын
planning to auction the worn sweaty jacket? Interested! :-)
@homesteadpickers
2 ай бұрын
Does your back hurt? Your left arm is holding your back.
@Trevor_Austin
3 ай бұрын
This bike doesn’t need all the useless plastic bollocks that covers the bits of the bike that you can’t do without. It would be an even better bike without it.
@jayneteale9782
3 ай бұрын
No one is going take it off road,buy an old trials bike 😂
@Life_of_Gavin
3 ай бұрын
I don’t ‘hate’ these bikes, but if I were going to need all the luggage boxes, electronics and luxury on my bike, I’ll just get into my car and drive. Just my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
@JH-ox7hn
3 ай бұрын
Your review just showed to me, that the Honda you recently rode, almost does the same things than this. If i were in the market for this kind of bike, i'd go for the NX 500 and eat the expensive Fish 'n' Chips for the next 10 years.
@Geshmaal
3 ай бұрын
I don't think the NX500 or Transalp 750 *quite* hits the mark as they're missing cruise control and shaft drive. The Moto Guzzi V85TT however...
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@Geshmaalthere is perhaps a reason for one of THE BEST bike brands leaving CC out of most of its bikes.
@Geshmaal
3 ай бұрын
@@kwakithailand ...which brand is that?
@longjonwhite
3 ай бұрын
@kwakithailand. Huh?
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@longjonwhite Honda listens to its customers. Only a few % of customers want a CC 🤷
@TheMotoStudio964
3 ай бұрын
I bought an R18 after seeing the old man buy his, and absolutely love it! So much cooler than any Harley in my opinion! I’m also lucky enough to own a new R1300GS, which I also love.
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Awesome 👍🏼
@michaelfinck6945
3 ай бұрын
@Mr Darcy @ The Ol' Man: Thank you for this content! Because I'm at home in both worlds I always find it very entertaining watching you guys sharing your perceptions of modern motorcycle looks 😅 Yes, even in Germany "nobody" buys a R18. Obviously BMW did not get the bike quite right. The R nineT was spot on and sold like hot cake. I like the R 12 nineT, but the bigger star for me is the R 12. The standard version in black (not the bling bling version Darcy rode). It feels very close to a spiritual successor of the Iron 883, even pricewise. I'm 55, it might be a coincidence, but the owners of the few R 18s I saw were all "old" men. Like I've never seen a 30 - 40 year old on a W800. The R 20 might change things though.
@simonchilli2088
3 ай бұрын
Maybe they could've tested the waters with this kind of bike with a 1200 cc engine which would be more affordable?
@jamesschneider3828
3 ай бұрын
That GS will run circles around 95% of the bikes you have reviewed previously. I think it is the best all around do almost anything bike made. Touring being one of its strong categories. Has power And handling of a sports bike and capability of doing some off road riding as long as the rider knows their and the bikes limits.
@michalnemsak7886
3 ай бұрын
Oh boy, a passionate GS rider/admirer if I ever saw one :D "running circles around" doesn't really make you fall in love with a bike, does it...
@romgl4513
3 ай бұрын
This beemer is made for people with more cash than brains, taking it off-road would be a peak of stupidity. Doesn't strike me as exceptionally ugly, and in normal use it's acceptable, I guess. For me, this is half-way to sad, electric future.
@ChadWinters
3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand heavy expensive off road bikes. It’s like you want to drop it in an expensive fashion and have a half ton land on your ankle
@MOTOUK1
3 ай бұрын
Loved this video chaps perfect mix of bikes, lunch, a worried looking few sheep around 😂 but I honestly am wondering why BMW changed the look of the GS so much. Was the King of the Adventure bikes for so long but even the GS lovers have doubt on the new ones. I do also wonder what the GS Adventure will look like once it’s revealed. Keep up the fab vids chaps 👍
@MrDarcy-OlMan
3 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much, hope you are well and we are looking forward to your next video 👍🏼
@ADSCoachSimonB2112
2 ай бұрын
I had a mate drop off a Suzuki vstrom 250SX 2024, currently testing and well it’s completely messed with my head, now of course it’s no way on the same level or scale as the BMW but at almost $50K fully loaded that’s a lot of hamburger lunches. This works out to be 13 Suzuki baby vstrom and a happy men’s group in theory, may have to use that left over cash for a ginger beer and burger. Thanks again guys love your work.
@FullMetalRooster
3 ай бұрын
That particular GS, (The 'Option 719 Tramuntana Edition') - with a decent selection from the options catalogue and full luggage is around the 23k mark! (I know, 'cause I've got one - I've been suffering from open-wallet surgery since!!) Even though I've splashed a load of cash on one, I have to agree with your review; however, I've not bought mine for the looks - it's just a superb mile-muncher and great for taking a pillion. [NB - I've got a T120 Bonneville and a Classic 350 to compensate for the GS's lack of aesthetic prowess!] Anyway - great video - keep up the good work guys.
@waltzieg
3 ай бұрын
I'm in love with my R1200C. It's beautiful, has a unique design, and the engine is sweet and torquey. But my R1200GSA it's the best bike I've ever ride: fast, comfortable, you can ride a lot of kilometres, the suspensions are great, and it's EASY. THE BEST FOR AN OLD MAN (Like myself) Nevertheless, I've had many other bikes, just to taste that life is not always as easy as a GS.😊 Engineering vs. Soul.
@IanTed
3 ай бұрын
After three GSs I moved to Ducati, the GS is a great package but I think the Multi ownership experience is so much better and I prefer the Skyhook suspension. I got sick of the hyped up marketing and off road capability BS, if I wanted to go off road a much lighter and cheaper bike would be my choice. By the way that particular model is well north of £20,000. My wife is from Stamford so I know that lovely part of the world👍.
@speedtriplerider7853
3 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable watch, a welcome change to the usual bike review channels. Have to say the Ol' Man cracks me up with his 'living in the past' comments about prices and bike designs - reminds me of me but i go a back a bit further to the 70s - I can remember when £2 would get a few pints, a packet of baccy and fish chips n peas and change for a couple of pints Sunday lunch. Ahhh those were the days - mind my wages were only £12 a week and I had to give me mam £5 keep money.
@Taz368
3 ай бұрын
The R18 in Black Storm Metallic with pin stripping is the most beautiful bike currently being produced. It looks like a supersized R51/3 which I find the most beautiful bike ever produced. That said, I own a R1300GS 😀
@Tobias611
3 ай бұрын
Great video, love the VLOG style in the first half! Honestly, I don't dislike the looks of the GS. It's not made to be aesthetically pleasing as a priority, though I wouldn't call it ugly. That title is reserved for the V Strom 650 🤭 It's function over form to a degree. Yes, lots of plastic everywhere, but those bits keep your pants dry and legs warm, though like you said I wouldn't mind some more functionality off them like a cupholder or small storage bits for the wallet and stuff. It is a bike made to handle everything, from daily commuting to touring Europe with 3 hardcases and a passenger to crossing half of Africa. It is a "no compromise" bike in terms of what it can do. The compromise comes with the ADV styling. Though it is definitely one of the better-looking ADVs... (NX 500, V Strom 650 come to mind). Now I'd love to see your opinion on the Versys 650 or 1000, since it has that aggressive sports bike styling with the comfort of a tourer! Love your different perspectives on things!
@sandwaves5642
3 ай бұрын
I've bought, once, a pretty nice helmet from XLMOTO. The "pin-lock" got scratched while I tried to dust off some tiny littering - with a micro-fiber cloth for glasses ! - A gentle touch, and a scratch !!! The customer service at XLMOTO told me that I - myself did it - so NO replacement ! On the other hand - I, without producing any scratches, many times, removed stuff from pin-locks on other helmets, using paper napkins, towels, fingers.... ! So obviously the plastic on the helmet from XLMOTO was tooooo soft. Well, after that, I never did, or going to buy a helmet from them again 🤷♂🤷♂ Several other items were also with different issues / deformations.
@ChancellorBeeHaw
3 ай бұрын
i definitely see what you mean about the styling. I think I'm used to that appearance whenever I think about adventure bikes, but now you're pointing it out some of those odd plastic components do really make it look like like a poorly shaped jigsaw puzzle. Then again, as Darcy said, the plastic is probably to bring the weight down and isn't necessarily there for the looks. However, for its price, I would expect every piece of the bike to look like its molds together. Better yet, sometimes less is more. Stripped back old fashion adventure bikes are great, although riding them at highway speeds is a battle against the wind, which is where the plastic panelling on newer models can be handy. Regardless, definitely gets the job done, powerfully and beautiful engine, and looks are definitely down to how other adventure bikes look by comparison across competing brands.
@chrismithchrismith
3 ай бұрын
Manufacturers need to sell, so they're constantly changing their models. BMW are doing what Range Rover did years ago: have gone way beyond improvement of the original concept and functionality into something entirely different. The R1300GS is the first significant move towards implosion (like the Range Rover Velar). If you want a combo bike to get you there and then ride off road comfortably get a KTM790 Adventure.
@rufysufy
3 ай бұрын
To be honest I think the GS1300 looks good from the side. Like proper good. I don't mind the plastic, it's a modern bike so it's different to classic ones. The front looks hideous though. Having said that, I thought the GS1250 looks ugly from all angles. so this is a big improvement. To be honest I think the same of my honda NT1100, Great looking from the rear and side, bland viewing head on from the front. On a different topic, really liking the videos lately.
@jamesonpace726
3 ай бұрын
I agree that a G/S800 - looking bike would sell, at least to me & the plastic GS is awful, but the best seller, again, while R18 is lovely & at discount. Monkeys, er, I mean, people, are funny that way, sadly....
@jfro5867
3 ай бұрын
Well, excuse me for a moment…. just popping my tin hat on…right, ready. I have an R18 and love it, no regrets. Agree with many in the comments that it’s no all rounder blah blah blah and yes it’s a high days bike really BUT, don’t care. It’s fabulous. We all like different things and have different requirements and those change as you get older. After +30 years riding ive long done the speed thing. Anyway, horses for courses. As long as it’s two wheels it shouldn’t matter what you ride.
@ironlionmotorcycles
3 ай бұрын
Seems as though that GS is well worth the money as it clearly doubles up as a time machine! Four quid for a meal??? Not since the 1990’s I think!! 😆
@78Outlaw
3 ай бұрын
Good video as ever lads, keep up the great work. It is sad re the R18, but HD sales also collapsed as that rising high price has caught up with them. Read reports of HD dealerships closing down. Once a blue collar bike. Without the boomers HD in real trouble. A Shame. That GS motor in the RS or R12 would be fun but maybe lacking character?
@TexasSteele67
3 ай бұрын
Here in Texas the GS is a touring bike for the wealthy - I really just don't get it. If I wanted to go back to the age of 13 and do a dirt bike it would never be such a heavy lumbering beast...
@Kevin-hp5fk
3 ай бұрын
... But the GS isn't a dirt bike and it doesn't pretend to be...
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@Kevin-hp5fkare you implying, that you don't know what's the "G" stands for?
@Kevin-hp5fk
3 ай бұрын
@@kwakithailand are you implying you don't know there's another letter after that G? German can be tricky so let's do this in English for you, it can handle some dirt but it's not a dirt bike. It can handle a street, but it's not a track bike. Wht should we call it? A DT? Now let's see what those words are in German since we've broken it down here. Gelande (with an umlaut i dont have on my phone keyboard) and Strasse. What a coincidence! Those words start with G and S! Surely this must not be a dirt bike then, it's a combo Terrain/Street bike. Coffee breaks over. Go on and respond again, I'm down to keep being a sarky bastard for ya.
@kwakithailand
3 ай бұрын
@@Kevin-hp5fk Try Google translate supposed you can't grasp what "Gelände Sport" means in English.
@Kevin-hp5fk
3 ай бұрын
@@kwakithailand gelande Strasse mate. I'm not German, lived in Berlin for a while though. Probably can't hold a conversation anymore though. Do you need me to show you what Strasse means again?
@inverlane1939
3 ай бұрын
I have a 1250 and don’t think the 1300 is ugly. I do however feel that BMW have considerably missed the mark with the design and it really lacks presence. The new frame and headlight design are both steps back for me. The price quoted is for a base model, whereas almost everyone opts for the TE version and this including some further options takes the price to well over £20k. The final downer is the design and function of the new luggage 😢
@bidouchonsan
3 ай бұрын
From the videos i've seen on KZitem, it seems like a very good bike. But as you said, it is not my favourite bike. The look is not terrible, and the price is so high. As usual with BMW , from the basic price you add a lot of options and packs that increase dramaticaly the price. in France the basic price is 20690 euros, full equiped in 719 version with luggage it goes to 35538 euros. People say that they have no money, and BMW 1250 GS and GSA are top one sellers for 2023, do you believe that ? i go each year to the Alpes Aventure Moto Festival, in the french Alps, and all the parking lot is full of GSs. what a boring view...
@jjnewman65
3 ай бұрын
I’ve owned a GS1300 (719 option) since March 2024 never owning the previous iterations. I bought it purely to tour the Picos, Pyrenees and the Alps. No off roading on this bike for me (too expensive to drop). It’s completed the first two tours and hasn’t missed a beat. It’s been an absolute delight to ride. Eats up motorway miles and is perfectly balanced when pushing on in the twisties. The German engineers have done a remarkable job on improving the boxer gearbox. It’s as smooth as silk unlike the tractor like R9T I had on my 2017 scrambler. Yes, I agree it’s not the best looking adventure/tourer. Perhaps that award would go to the Ducati multistrada but for me I’m loving the new GS and for a weekend blatt around the country lanes I still have my customised T100.
@geoffbroderick403
3 ай бұрын
its ugly like all adventure bikes also transformer ugly bikes honda ,yamaha, ktm ,my bikes mv agusta brutale 800 ,modded t100,one can have performance with looks
@andyshaw5378
3 ай бұрын
I think adventure bikes are a group all of their own. Same as cruisers and sports bikes. Difficult to love all three. They get a lot of coverage in the film world MI etc. Being so high up they are a bit like an SUV of the bike world. Lots of people buy those and never go off road (in fact most of them can’t go off road). People like the bigness of them makes them feel safe are adventure bikes tapping into the same mind set? Great video guys. Keep it up and stay safe
@cisa1622
3 ай бұрын
The GS Is a machine for adventure . Purpose built. Take it for a countrywide travel then you will know BMW has given you good suspension, brakes , seats , power and all that matters unlike a Harley which needs a suspension, handlebar , seat from day one right out of the showroom.
@jambroish
3 ай бұрын
I've had an R18 for 2 years and rode a GS13 when she was in for service. Very capable machine and scary fast, though I think the difference in head hight makes it feel faster. With you on the looks it's not pretty. There was a noise that sounded like something was wrong, like a can of bolts hidden under the plastic somewhere. I thought I should report it when I picked my bike up and they said "the cement mixer, they do sound like that".
@ecthelionalfa
3 ай бұрын
The old model of the gs, the gs1200, was soo ugly that complete a full turn and turned lovely, the new gs1300 look like it went to a plastic surgery to look like a Honda, personally based on look alone i would not buy the new gs1300
@julianperry5141
3 ай бұрын
Really have to agree, it's ugly. Didn't really like the previous model but mainly for what it was and the reputation as the most popular adventure bike that older riders gravitated to ride to Starbucks. I was starting to grow accustomed to the looks of the 1250...then BMW released this. I really don't like the looks, no matter how well it rode, it wouldn't tempt me to buy it. I'm not a cruiser rider, but your R18 is a piece of art. For me a bike has to have an emotional connection and look good in the garage.
@saddle8bag
3 ай бұрын
Heh, as modern bikes go, I rather like the look. Has a nice athletic build and I like the gold/green bits. They all get carried away with spray painting everything black, so those bits are par for the course. You should have seen the 1250. I have no words to describe what the hell the designer of that thing was going after. If it wasn't hideous enough, they'd add silver pipes all over the damn thing. Looks like the bike crashed into an aluminum ladder.
@christyrer9530
3 ай бұрын
Feel for you with your R18 and appreciate your candid comments regards depreciation. BMW really did sell new buyers down the river discounting so soon after launch and to me it showed a lack of confidence in their own product. Excellent video and enjoying the new format 😀👍.
@Leonard-kd7uj
3 ай бұрын
Hi great vid I have the same problem with large adventure bikes and weight great touring bikes but anything really rough unless your super capable something lighter I think would be better 235kg unloaded. Load up all the luggage then she a big girl indeed I would rather have a Crf 300 off road or even a T7 less tec if that goes wrong in the middle of nowhere that's your lot ride safe guys
@carver7689
3 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, I prefer a road bike for the road and a dirt bike for the dirt. If I had to get another ADV bike, I'd probably choose something mid-sized - the F800GS is a good option. Not very top-heavy, good luggage options, light enough to be fun on single-track but still heavy enough to handle some touring. If you want something with more traditional styling, I think you'd have to look into the scrambler market.
@davidmallia628
3 ай бұрын
The looks of the 1300gs are utilitarian, with a sporty aspect. Just like a LR defender TD5. Ugly, but in the eye of a utilitarian, beautiful!
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