“Any new generation knows much more about the game than the previous one” - Garry Kasparov
@sdaeth
Жыл бұрын
Staying ahead in tech world where peak chess is accessible to every gm is something I say worthy to be respected miles above fisher situation.
@exyile3323
Жыл бұрын
fischer was the goat but magnus is the goat
@sdaeth
Жыл бұрын
@@Champagne-Supernova478 your elo less than 700.
@corvoattano5766
Жыл бұрын
poor logic
@Parporos
Жыл бұрын
@@corvoattano5766Its pretty true you can cry
@sas6384
Ай бұрын
Bobby has more raw talent but Magnus benefits from being the new generation.
@nikhildawani2913
2 күн бұрын
Magnus is more talented to be honest
@anakinskywalker7915
Жыл бұрын
If we invent time machine then that would be unfair for Bobby as Magnus studied all of the games of Bobby he has a great memory
@initial.draken6917
Жыл бұрын
fr doesnt he take mints that increase memory or sum?
@Hajunbest
Жыл бұрын
@@initial.draken6917 what ?? Magnus is just a genius ,
@anakinskywalker7915
Жыл бұрын
@@initial.draken6917 no bro Bobby could also eat that And that increases attention not Memory You could also eat gum to increase attention
@agentsleeper1
Жыл бұрын
@@initial.draken6917bruh no
@anonymoushere7786
Жыл бұрын
@@anakinskywalker7915attention? And concentration? What should I eat? Please tell me bro
@adityanegi2219
Жыл бұрын
Bobby is Arnold Schwarzenegger and Magnus is CBUM. Now you decide
@karlnavidubalde9197
Жыл бұрын
Nope, arnold didn't get crazy.
@Venerable_of_great_love
Жыл бұрын
@@karlnavidubalde9197well he didn't have nazis in his ass
@Lord_Great_Popo
11 ай бұрын
Magnus has peak elo, Magnus was undefeated for 2 whole years in any classical game making the world record for the longest win streak and hardly ever loses in classical, Magnus has been world champion for 5 consecutive times (10 years long), youngest grandmaster, youngest person alive to be world champion, Youngest person alive to be world champion in all three categories simultaneously. Bobby Fischer was world champion one single time then he left without facing neither Karpov nor Kasparov, there is no discussion here unless you learnt chess from shorts. Magnus claps.
@krillin7876
10 ай бұрын
@@Lord_Great_Popohardly ever loses in classical. Dude lost in classical in one month more than he did in last 5 years and that too against new gen players
@Lord_Great_Popo
10 ай бұрын
@@krillin7876 Magnus is getting tired/bored of classical matches, that's the reason he doesn't prepare much for them anymore, but he was there for more than 10 years, can't be compared to a player who only competed for 2 years
@literallytyler_durden
Жыл бұрын
Bobby: High IQ, Talent and hard work
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Wtf
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Talent?
@sahilsharma4448
9 ай бұрын
Hardwork? 😂
@chanchal596
8 ай бұрын
@@sahilsharma4448yes
@chanchal596
6 ай бұрын
@@sahilsharma4448 Yes
@ideinamillion
Жыл бұрын
Magnus claps high diff. New generation is stronger than old, cuz they training with computers when old gen grew up on books. So yeah, Magnus claps
@el_nuevo
Жыл бұрын
Absolutly, many actual chess players could beat him
@RascalButa
Жыл бұрын
Ik right
@rdplays5056
Жыл бұрын
bro knows chess from yt shorts if fisher knew the modern stuff he would clap magnus so hard can't lie
@RascalButa
Жыл бұрын
@@rdplays5056 I assume saying he learned chess from shorts is an insult so in that case what is he saying that is so dumb? He's not saying Fischer was trash just that chess engines are revolutionary and help a lot
@rdplays5056
Жыл бұрын
@@RascalButa i meant obviously magnus would win cuz he had machines and stuff to train there was no match if magnus didn't do these things or studied modern theories fisher would clap him
@alevicari367
Жыл бұрын
We know Fisher was the best of his time and Magnus is the best of our time, the fact is nobody really knew just HOW good Fisher actually was, whereas we have a great method of comparison for Magnus today with modern engines. If they ever played a game, Magnus would probably win, as he studied every game Bobby played, but if they were both born today, i think in 25-30 years Fisher would be the best player, as i think he had way more potential to become better, it just wasn't possible for him in his time.
@SlogoFrost007
Жыл бұрын
Fax
@sikliost
Жыл бұрын
Bobby was not as serious for chess he wouldnt even come close to becoming gm pretty sure
@kalflagertha
5 ай бұрын
@@sikliost His peak was elo 2800+ IN HIS TIME is insane.
@JoeJoe-uh5rp
4 ай бұрын
@@sikliostbro what?? he literally learnt the third hardest language as a child just because there wasn’t many english chess books, if he was born today he would be miles ahead of everyone else
@sikliost
3 ай бұрын
is that why young mangus made him sweat that much? stop glazing dude@@JoeJoe-uh5rp
@x.isaac.x_editz78-
Жыл бұрын
I would pay to watch this legendary battle fr. But I want to know the whole analysis after the match even though I won't understand anything 💀
@Bully_V_007
Жыл бұрын
I would too, the analysis would be interesting fr
@PantherMaster
Жыл бұрын
frfr,
@rnhunteryt4244
Жыл бұрын
When in doubt remember gothem chess exists for a reason
@uiae
Жыл бұрын
Comparing bobby and carlsen is like comparing china in 1970 vs the us in 2022 since bobby had only books and carlsen has the whole internet
@iamhuhuhulal9109
Жыл бұрын
@@uiae bobby's strength isn't theory It's Magnus And the way game goes depends on both players bobby will take him out of theory and decimate him
@seicroux720
Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fisher is too much for anyone who ever exist in chess
@legendariousawoke8615
Жыл бұрын
Carlsen destroy
@ChessECO
Жыл бұрын
@@legendariousawoke8615 Carlson gets destroyed
@AduhDhika
Жыл бұрын
@@ChessECOCry?
@rAnDoM.199
Жыл бұрын
@@ChessECO nah to me magnus wins the new generation is almost always better than the new gen at chess just like how bobby said he was better than paul morphy since he obviously knows more theory same thing applies to magnus since he knows wayy more theory than fischer he'd win and IF bobby learned theory from computers then its fair but since he doesnt magnus wins high diff
@StONeROP_007
Жыл бұрын
@@ChessECOMagnus carlsen remember 10000+ games and position , He has a Greater IQ than Bobby of a total 190, Magnus Carlsen Endgame knowledge is just unbelievable . At the Age of only 13 he managed to Draw a match against Prime Kasparov who is 20th time World champion. Magnus has the Highest Fide elo rating in the Human history.His Positional vision and Tactical vision are far greater. Bobby will never be able to win against Magnus carlsen or any top 10 world Chess Super GM.
@simpforpadme7366
Жыл бұрын
"When you break his ego" 🥶
@petar4oo
6 ай бұрын
I mean if Fischer continued playing he would get 3000 FIDE elo (it was estameted by FIDE). He was an absolubte genius.
@Aerixes.
2 ай бұрын
absolute* estimated*
@itsdiamond5128
2 ай бұрын
@@Aerixes. english is not his first language pal
@petar4oo
2 ай бұрын
@@Aerixes. You speak English, bc that's the only language u know, I speak English, because that's the only language you know. We are different, pal. 😂😂😂
@Aerixes.
2 ай бұрын
@@petar4oo english is the only language i know? you're probably braindead to assume what someone knows and doesn't know when you haven't even met them or know them at all. i know 3 languages, Spanish, Portuguese and English PAL
@Aerixes.
2 ай бұрын
@@itsdiamond5128 do you know him? p a l are you his boyfriend pal
@uriuuishida
Жыл бұрын
"Imagine if a similar person were born today, with access to books and engines" Magnus Carlsen enters the chat...
@RascalButa
Жыл бұрын
🥶
@mrbeanchess1439
Жыл бұрын
😂 i got you man.
@derekmayers-louther
Жыл бұрын
What makes it better is that he was born the year he died
@Euclib
Жыл бұрын
@@derekmayers-louther bruh. Fischer died in 2008, Magnus was born in 1990.
@medicalh7990
Жыл бұрын
@@EuclibHis chess career born in 2008 maybe that s what he meant
@ichangedmynamenow3478
4 ай бұрын
It's sad that Bobby isn't alive anymore. If Magnus and Bobby played at least one game. It would tear apart the chess world. It'd be like watching two iron giants fist fight to the death
@TerraceSc
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion bobby is a w for me he inspired me to play chess and learn more.
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Learn about other champion
@YavuzSultanSelimHan1470
9 ай бұрын
Learn about some well mannered man rather than following a Idiot @@starlineyt3359
@Amnesia_victim
Жыл бұрын
Why bobby looks so perfect
@scherdiemann
Жыл бұрын
Because he is perfect 🧐
@anonymoushere7786
Жыл бұрын
Because he is perfect 💌🗿
@djilad
Жыл бұрын
Bobby is in the debate of GOATS without even use engines, dude was the engine of his gen thats why we respect him. Ofcourse today magnus would win against him but u cant compare between them since they r from different area!
@jameshansen1808
Жыл бұрын
Bobby was beyond his time. Definitely the most dominant player. The gap between him and others was huge. But Magnus is by far the better player in every aspect. The newer generation will always be better because our understanding of the game gets better.
@bevs9995
4 ай бұрын
"because our understanding of the game gets better" I think you mean, the computer's understanding of the game got better. and humans train this way. It took the Soviet Union 15-20+ years, or a minimum of 15 years, to train a GM to come anywhere close to Bobby. They basically had to invent the computers.
@reduzumaki7674
10 ай бұрын
Bobby is my fav 1. He is good at the game 2. Accomplished a lot for a short carrier 3. ☕ ( you should understand by now)
@alf73
11 ай бұрын
I think Bobby Fischer is better for his time because he played almost as well as Magnus taking into consideration the top comment. Magnus better but if Bobby was born later then he would destroy him.
@JoeJoe-uh5rp
4 ай бұрын
true
@cryz2809
5 ай бұрын
Many current chess players could beat fischer, the advantage of chess engines and computers is crazy and also have the players like magnus or carruana played against way more and better opponents
@beyourself182
5 ай бұрын
Comparing Magnus Carlsen in his prime with Bobby Fischer in his prime is a fascinating theoretical matchup in the world of chess. Both players are among the greatest to have ever played the game, each dominating during their respective eras. To analyze their potential head-to-head performance, we need to consider their playing styles, achievements, and the changes in chess over the decades. ### Magnus Carlsen **Prime/Peak:** Carlsen has been at his peak arguably since 2013 when he first became World Chess Champion. His peak rating of 2882 in 2014 is the highest recorded in history. He is known for his exceptional endgame skills, deep understanding of positions, and ability to play for wins in seemingly drawn positions. Carlsen has adapted to various styles and strategies, making him a versatile and unpredictable opponent. ### Bobby Fischer **Prime/Peak:** Fischer's prime was around 1971-1972 when he captured the World Chess Championship from Boris Spassky. His peak rating was 2785. Fischer was known for his deep opening preparation, profound tactical ability, and intense determination to win. Fischer's games often demonstrated clear plans and devastating attacks, making him feared for his ruthless efficiency. ### Theoretical Matchup 1. **Opening Preparation:** Fischer was a master of the opening, but the depth of opening theory in Carlsen's era has significantly evolved with the aid of chess engines and databases. Carlsen would likely have a slight edge in this phase due to access to more modern theory. 2. **Middlegame:** Both players are tactical geniuses, but Carlsen's style allows him to handle a wide variety of positions. Fischer might push Carlsen in sharper lines where he excelled during his era. 3. **Endgame:** Carlsen is considered one of the best endgame players in the history of chess, often squeezing victories from slightly better positions. Fischer was also a strong endgame player, but Carlsen's precision in this phase might give him an upper hand. 4. **Psychological/Competitive Edge:** Fischer's intense focus and psychological tactics were key components of his game. Carlsen, however, has shown remarkable resilience and calm under pressure against today's highly competitive field. ### Estimation of Outcomes Over 10 Rounds - **Magnus Carlsen:** 60% - **Bobby Fischer:** 40% **Rationale:** Carlsen's advantage would largely come from his adaptability and broader exposure to diverse styles of play, enhanced by modern chess engines and databases. Fischer's strength in openings and dynamic play would certainly win him games, but the evolution of chess strategy since his time might put him at a slight disadvantage. This matchup, purely hypothetical, assumes both players are at their mental and physical peaks, with Carlsen having access to contemporary resources and Fischer having his 1972 resources. The percentage reflects Carlsen's slight but significant advantages in certain phases of the game and his experience against a wider variety of top-tier modern players.
@zyadhelmy6852
10 ай бұрын
If Bobby was born in the same Generation he would clap Magnus.
@PAYDAY_isteyen_Kanye_West2
Жыл бұрын
If there's armageddon chess or something like fast chess Magnus wins but if there's a long game Bobby wins
@iamhuhuhulal9109
Жыл бұрын
Bobby definitely wins And don't forget it's up to both players to stick to theory Meaning the biggest advantage of magnus is gone Bobby destroys
@Lord_Great_Popo
11 ай бұрын
Magnus has peak elo, Magnus was undefeated for 2 whole years in any classical game making the world record for the longest win streak and hardly ever loses in classical, Magnus has been world champion for 5 consecutive times (10 years long), youngest grandmaster, youngest person alive to be world champion, Youngest person alive to be world champion in all three categories simultaneously. Bobby Fischer was world champion one single time before facing anyone strong as Karpov or Kasparov then he left, there is no discussion here unless you learnt chess from shorts. Magnus claps.
@AtsyKlr
11 ай бұрын
bobby had limited resources back then whereas magnus has all with the new technologies
@amitsinghkapapa730
Жыл бұрын
i can give everything to Bobby but endgame is magnus , magnus is endgame
@gigagamer7268
Жыл бұрын
1000 dala
@gigagamer7268
Жыл бұрын
Oops not here
@shaktiprasadkv2807
Жыл бұрын
Still magnus is my favorite
@gregorygranvik1000
Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone was ever able to measure how good Fischer actually was
@ZacharyFranche
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@ChessECO
Жыл бұрын
FISCHER 🐐
@lehmankulli69
Жыл бұрын
@Hello Japan Channel those accuracys make no sense. Even i have a better accuracy bruh
@cenagraal
Жыл бұрын
@@lehmankulli69stop capping
@lehmankulli69
Жыл бұрын
@@cenagraal bruh its easy
@Mr_twister717
11 ай бұрын
Next gen solos.
@honzajansky2938
Жыл бұрын
Robert James Fischer is the G.O.A.T. of chess.
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Because is american paul morphy> paul keres>
@L_Genius
8 ай бұрын
Everyone Magnus Carlsen or Bobby Fischer Me: Mikhail Tal the Magician of the chess
@danielmadden9691
Ай бұрын
Bobby was out the ordinary in terms of chess.
@angminhkhoinguyen6820
11 ай бұрын
Experience? Chess always evolving from past until now,bobby is the king of chess for 3 years,meanwhile magnus play chess from a very young age,he still on top for literally 10 years and more experience when he can learn from the past chess player
@IamVladimirPutin
5 ай бұрын
What a stupid comparison. Bobby ain't even close to Magnus. 😂
@kotytuber3514
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Bobby would have grown with the actual top engines and wouldn't have quit his career too early 💀
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
In modern time bobby probaly top 100 not near top 10
@mickael144
9 ай бұрын
@@starlineyt3359Fischer is the most accurate player of all Time according to modern engine. If modern 2800 elo players like Hikaru Carlsen or giri ranked him as top 3 all Time i d rather listen them
@starlineyt3359
9 ай бұрын
@@mickael144 bro modern is 10 time stronger than old
@Wzmtwin
9 ай бұрын
@@starlineyt3359No, it isn't.
@JoeJoe-uh5rp
4 ай бұрын
@@starlineyt3359no lol fischer back then would be one of the best today and if he was born in this generation he wouod probably be even more dominant than he was in the past since the russians also had an advantage over fischer. If fischer was born today he would be miles ahead of the competition
@siamboiphymes5999
Жыл бұрын
Bobby’s brother Stock Fischer was also a very strong player
@dillonpercy1058
Жыл бұрын
Bobby fischer High-Extreme, he was limited by his eras opponents, there were few with a high enough rating to bring his up after he wins, so in my opinion he would be much better than we think. He dominated his time, and he would dominate ours.
@chessmasteryzone123
9 ай бұрын
Two legends vs each other 😂
@Ibrohimtoshpolatov-gq6io
8 ай бұрын
Bobbie Fishcher's maximal rating was 3080
@whatiswhose7355
Жыл бұрын
Fischer was a chad both in and off the board. He inspired more people into chess than everyone else (Anand great as well under this regard). While I think peak Magnus would beat peak Fischer because of the knowledge, Fischer is my favourite. Real life top g.
@FeedbackSolos
Жыл бұрын
If Bobby learned chess from computer he could have had a chance
@scherdiemann
Жыл бұрын
But he is one of the best player in the world with no computer.
@caxacar8901
Жыл бұрын
The computer learned from Bobby
@ChessECO
Жыл бұрын
@@caxacar8901 agreed
@anonymoushere7786
Жыл бұрын
@@caxacar8901exactly 🗿
@HanadShikhmous
Жыл бұрын
if he learned form computer and was serieus about chess than he mid-high diff magnus
@wennew0
10 ай бұрын
Bobby is 6'2 and Magnus only 5'9 Only a joke
@RahulSharma-kz8pc
9 ай бұрын
Ya need to fix ur humour
@Jimmy_Gustafsson
Жыл бұрын
Magnus might be better than Bobby was but if you consider things like the time Bobby lived in and that he was way ahead of his opponents it’s very possible that Bobby would be better than Magnus if he lived today (or if Magnus lived when Bobby did).
@KeanNoel-cs6ix
Жыл бұрын
Bobby Fischer: hey I am the best Magnes Carlsen: NO I am the best Garry Kasparov: step aside
@MelloNahar
Жыл бұрын
Fisher and carlsen never didnt lose the title but kasparov did :/
@anonymoushere7786
Жыл бұрын
@@MelloNaharworld champion title?
@MelloNahar
Жыл бұрын
@@anonymoushere7786 he did not relinquish the title because he was defeated. He quit because he didn't want to play and Carlsen did same thing. So I mean hese players did not lose the title by losing a match
@herohunter5961
9 ай бұрын
@@MelloNaharKasparov was champion for 19 years lol, Fischer and Carlsen together didn't come close to that reign
@NazifeCeka
7 ай бұрын
Stockfish and Torch: ?
@bornfaya3030
11 ай бұрын
Realest edit ever❤ 🔥
@IntoBloom-wz3nl
11 ай бұрын
People keep talking about modern computers and whatnot but they don’t understand that this exact fact makes Magnus untouchable. Chess has never been bigger nor as close to being figured out. Magnus is a freak anomaly to be this ahead of his peers given the circumstances. In the old days, you could be good as hell but have advantages other people didn’t. Today? Every kid in the world with a working computer can access engines. Magnus isn’t working with some hidden tech, he is competing and dominating the field in which everyone has the same tools he does. What Fischer and Kasparov did is impressive, but Magnus is clearly far above.
@JoeJoe-uh5rp
4 ай бұрын
that’s not really true, that only applies to dominance not how good the player actually was, and it is clear that fischer was far more dominant than magnus ever was. Another thing is that your argument about the top player having an advantage over others actually favours Fischer more than Magnus, because Magnus does have the same technology as everyone else but Fischer actually had less technology than his opponents. The soviets had way more technology than the Americans, they had much more books, chess education, coaches and many other things, while Fischer had none of that. He had a disadvantage against his opponents and was still much more dominant than Magnus, so your argument actually favours Fischer
@kacperj6167
Жыл бұрын
Fisher the GOAT
@edwincastillo9607
Жыл бұрын
Fischer*
@johnportable9738
6 ай бұрын
Old Bob Fischer managed to discover what chess was all about, he studied every single chess position and what to do in each one
@rajbalayadav4371
Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain me why bobby fischer is renounced as one of the greatest even though he was champion for just 1 or 2 years
@WhatdoInamemyselfaaa
Жыл бұрын
at the time, Fischer's highest elo rating was 2895 while the second highest rated player was about *less than* 2700 so Fischer had a higher rating by *200 points* . Magnus may beat Fischer solely because of modern chess tactics that Fischer has no knowledge about + Fischer's "non-meta" tactics, but the point is no one has ever dominated chess as much as Fischer did in his time (If I recall correctly, the elo difference between Magnus and the current #2 highest rated player in chess is about 30 while the difference Between Fischer and the #2 highest rated player at his time was over 200, it was basically god amongst men)
@WhatdoInamemyselfaaa
Жыл бұрын
I suggest watching a youtube video covering Bobby Fischer
@rajbalayadav4371
Жыл бұрын
@@WhatdoInamemyselfaaa oh Thanks for this explanation.
@gamespremier7179
Жыл бұрын
It was cause he was way ahead of his time the elo rating of him and the 2nd best guy was a difference of over 200 elo while today the difference in elo is only like 30 ish fischer dominated chess during his era
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Because is american
@AJEditZ24
Жыл бұрын
Mikhail Tal Laughing in corner Even Engine Cnt Predict his moves i checked Every of his sacrifice was brillant Even pawn Legend Tal
@Tylerdurdenfrr
Ай бұрын
Doesn't mean he is the best
@feli____
2 ай бұрын
Hace poco vi una partida entre stopfish y alfazero. Stopfish procesaba muchisimas mas partidas que alfazero, y aun asi perdio. Esto quiere decir que el conocimiento no es el factor que define la voctoria, sino la inteligencia
@irlinka
Жыл бұрын
They are both gorgeous, i guess there is no aim to compare them , bc Bobby and Magnus are in the different period of chess, they are both Genius players. IMHO
@bolsosdemodacolombia5549
7 ай бұрын
Magnus IS 10 times better Fischer was a blink of an eye
@secondtononemadman7260
Жыл бұрын
Fischer wins easily, if you disagree with me then 1v1 me in chess.
@luccuong2463
3 ай бұрын
Finally, a ytb short doesn't underestimate Bobby Fischer when matching Magnus Carlsen
@mission2176
Жыл бұрын
Pov the guy making reels is a 600
@BasicallyVader
Жыл бұрын
This is an extremely controversial opinion, but I think Magnus would crush Fischer quite easily. I also think the current top 5 GM’s beat Fischer.
@fuchan707
11 ай бұрын
Present day Magnus low diffs 1972 Bobby But if Bobby were to be born to compete in Magnus' era, then it's unclear; if Bobby has that same drive and obsession then he'd probably only be outdone by prime Garry or Magnus if at all.
@WISZ__OFFICIAL
Жыл бұрын
Great edit!
@michaelm3753
11 ай бұрын
The men who beat Fischer lost to magnus… when he was like 9
@sticky0159
Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the matches I would've loved to see is Magnus against Fischer. Even if Magnus studied all of Fischers matches and a lot of other famous games, I still think Fischer would have some creative ideas on how to beat top tier players.
@B682
Жыл бұрын
Well if we put it in a fair place if Bobby Fischer has the technology we have to say he will win and Bobby Fischer win but it's quite hard even with no new technology
@abrarfaiaz1898
Жыл бұрын
Magnus is a lethal combination of Fisher and Karpov said by his coach Garry Kasparov. Fisher always uses all the Resources with dynamic playing style. Karpov uses minimum resources with maximum Outcome. This makes the magnus so lethal.
@GooRockGooRise
11 ай бұрын
Magnus had more "experience" he also had more access the old games, had AI to prepared with. Imo Magnus is the greatest chess player to walk on earth.
@RobertzX
Жыл бұрын
Experience actually goes to Magnus as he played more years bu Fischer retired at 29
@MattsGamingTV
Жыл бұрын
bobby fischer is the champion for a reason💯
@Varaize
Жыл бұрын
Magnus Carlsen >>>>>>>
@wintertruncheon7876
Жыл бұрын
Even Caruana, Alireza, Nepo, and Nakamura can crush Fischer. Remember that in Fischer's peak, his strongest opponent is Borris Spassky who is just 2690.
@pogster4272
Жыл бұрын
Magnus wins, but if Magnus was born at the same time as fischer, then fischer would win
@sweet_stranger114
10 ай бұрын
Actually i am a physics student and i know a lot more physics than Newton. That doesn’t mean I'm better than Newton. Lol. I am nowhere near to Newton. If you talk about Fide rating, Fischer's rating was 2900+ according to modern rating system
@Tylerdurdenfrr
Ай бұрын
Nearly 3000
@berny9681
Жыл бұрын
If both would play in their prime it would be a easy clap for bobby , magnus doesnt stand a chanche against his brilliancy
@therandom3523
10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Fisher was so good at imagining games that it drove him into schizophrenia. He was so good that his mind couldn't handle it
@Daddyugh10
6 ай бұрын
magnus fights chess players who's like bobby ficher
@adrapolska671
Жыл бұрын
Great Edit because SOMEONE FOR ONCE actually said how this would essentially be Neck and Neck instead of Giving Magnus 11-1 points💀 Fisher Da GOAT 🐐
@clarkjosephkent2876
Жыл бұрын
Fischer is not the goat of chess. He only earned that title because his an American the most influential country in the world. To me kasparov is the goat
@anonymoushere7786
Жыл бұрын
@@clarkjosephkent2876I will watch Kasparov's games now ... For me Fischer's games are really great
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Overkill magnus take all points
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
@@clarkjosephkent2876bro i respect you There many champion capable to defeat this overated guy
@AtyulitRout-wg5ps
8 ай бұрын
The fact that Magnus competes in the toughest generation where there are so many 2800 level players and still destroys all of them just shows how great Magnus is. Well yeah bobby could have done lot better in today's era but that's only an hypothesis. If you stand all top greatest players of all time in their prime, Magnus would destory 99 percent of them with booze. So ye that settles it.
@lixiblixirixi5707
10 ай бұрын
Sprry Magnus Bobby is the Goat❤❤❤❤❤
@songoku-jx3cb
11 ай бұрын
I think fischer wins because he was the most dominant player of his era and was 120 ratings above the second best also bobby at his peak was 2800 and if we adjust the rating inflation which has happened since fischer would be above magnus If he has that extraordinary without the theory and engines what could he acieve with them is beyond understanding and magnus is no.1 but he doesn’t has same level of dominance he gets beaten by a lot players
@next_leveledits
Жыл бұрын
Magnus will win against him because he has studied all his Games. Also he knows all the modern Tricks whereas robby read those books which were very old . Magnus has this advantage But robby also have chances to win against magnus Cuz he was that player who used to play with himself and get better His grasping power is so strong that he can figure out magnus's Strategies after few Games or even in between the game He is good in adaptability He studied complex chess combinations when he was young So it's hard to figure out who wins Pov - Bullet - Magnus Blitz magnus Rapid - Magnus After some games - Maybe robby could win My inspiration in James but l agree that magnus defeats him
@ВасифШиринов-э6и
10 ай бұрын
The people who think that Fischer is better than Magnus know nothing about chess. Magnus would win and it is not even close
@Secimatar
8 ай бұрын
I would say Magnus wins cuz of modern day chess
@CraziChris
Жыл бұрын
Bro learned chest history from Burger King
@tsu1wen
9 ай бұрын
debut for Fischer, bro, Magnus knows everything that Fischer knows and much more since he lives in modern times Random GM>Fisher in chess theory and debut
@namansaini1912
Жыл бұрын
No offense but he wasn't even 2800 (please don't get offended but magnus is better in every possible way)
@Josuke8Man
10 ай бұрын
Future better than Past Time
@sherzodabdullajonov2331
9 ай бұрын
Bobby Fisher famous because he is only champion from America 😅
@AdityaRayal-l2p
Жыл бұрын
Bro experience goes to magnus not only he had played with better player but also he was able to equal at some point with the stockfish
@Bully_V_007
Жыл бұрын
Valid
@stephenwu1524
Жыл бұрын
I agree that experience goes to Magnus but he was literally never in his life anywhere close to stockfish lol what r u talking about
@Orph1c_soul
11 ай бұрын
Magnus Carlsen for me
@fatmaesen958
3 ай бұрын
İf bobby was living in todays world he would have been the best because he would be able to learn more with new tech
@aliani9048
Жыл бұрын
You should compared them with their challengers in their own era. Fischer has such an absolute dominance on his rivals. Specially you see his peak on 1971 fide candidates tournament when he gained many tremendous victories against Taimanov(6_0),Larsen(6_0)and Petrosian(6.5_2.5). These results were really terrifying and any past world chess champion didn't have such a great advantage on his opponents . But Magnus was and still the best for over 10 years and you can't see any regress in him. In conclusion I think with influencing time factor you can call Magnus Greatest of all time.
@amrutswain5385
Жыл бұрын
I have been playing chess and watching chess stream and fide matches from a long time. I didn't expect a power scaling channel to make a video with a chess reference. Thanks y'all. Chess is alive for y'all guys who watch chess videos in KZitem, play chess frequently and sometimes think and discuss about it.🗿👍
@Bully_V_007
Жыл бұрын
Well... I'm sure my edit is not the only chess edit, there're more, but yea chess is new for debates like these, chess has always been my favourite game, ever since childhood, so I was more than happy to make this edit. 🗿
@amrutswain5385
Жыл бұрын
@@Bully_V_007 I know that you're not the only one to make these types of videos but you are one of the rarest that makes these videos.
@weignerleigner3037
Жыл бұрын
I think if you removed all their knowledge of theory and just had two blank slates that could only play off their natural talent and inclination I would say Bobby would be better.
@PantherMaster
Жыл бұрын
Books vs chess engines, basically here bobby has a big disadvantage because of that but his ability to figure out everything by himself makes him the greatest of all time, imagine if a similar person were born today, with acces to books and engines, in conclusion, 2 different eras, the comparasion is hard, so bc of bobby's disadvantage, it's obvious he wins here
@uriuuishida
Жыл бұрын
"Imagine if a similar person were born today, with access to books and engines" Magnus Carlsen enters the chat...
@PantherMaster
Жыл бұрын
@@uriuuishida xd ik i redacted that badly
@sebsabsolutelystupidchanne4168
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who made Fischer win, if he just had a little more sanity he could most likely decimate magnus even without any help from engines
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
Engines > natural chess
@haha-sd2cp
Жыл бұрын
kasparov said magnus was like a combination of fischer and karpov
@haha-sd2cp
Жыл бұрын
magnus easily wins
@starlineyt3359
Жыл бұрын
@@haha-sd2cp carlsen know combination of all champion so fischer is one of the stronger there many chessplayer stronger than fischer
@АндрейМорозов-р2ш
11 ай бұрын
y'all overrating bobby af cuz he has like zero technology
@nerdyboi1729
Жыл бұрын
Bobby would have hit 2900 if he had today's facilities. Or just a week of preparation, and Magnus got some tough competition.
@Tylerdurdenfrr
Ай бұрын
Magnus peak elo: 2882 Bobby fischer peak elo: 2895 Also, elo has inflated in recent years, so Bobby Fischer would've been around 3000-3100 in our era. Bobby fischer trained chess 12 hours a day, he breathed chess
@feli____
2 ай бұрын
Este edit salio antes de que magnus fuera derrotado por un niño de 10 años. Magnus es increible pero no creo que fischer se dejara esas cosas. Era demasiado inteligente.
@rossmathias5675
Жыл бұрын
Magnus now 2013-2023..😊
@applepie6513
Жыл бұрын
breh u make chess edits? kool op
@NorthumbrianNationalist
3 ай бұрын
Carlsen got 2882 in 2014 Fischer got 2785 in 1972 If they played eachother Carlsen wins In actual skill fischer wins
@nikhildawani2913
2 күн бұрын
Magnus is more skillful than fischer lmao😂
@schephren201
Жыл бұрын
Bro's traumatized by chess
@Haze_d
8 ай бұрын
first is wrong fischer was 180 magnus is 190
@cedhabs20
11 ай бұрын
In fact, Fischer would be better because he learn without solver to dominate
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