........for someone to take the time to perform these tests, then video it, and post it,.....all so others can use the information gathered......respects sir,....much respect......those Mtn boys have good souls.......thanks for taking the time.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
That hit me in the feels, brother. I'll keep it up for ya
@user-ck1qy2cp7y
7 жыл бұрын
привет, подскажи пожалуйста когда лучше всего выкапывать ямадори, нашел два хороших деревца (граб и клен, фото могу кинуть в инстаграм) и не хочется ждать до весны, если сейчас их выкопать у них есть шанс выжить??? Если нет, то буду ждать весны, заранее благодарен)))
@rickl.orchids
7 жыл бұрын
Император Путин translation..........Hi, please tell your when best digging yamadori, found two good trees (oak and maple, the photo can throw in via instagram) and do not want to wait until spring, when they dig up they have a chance to survive? If not, I will wait for spring, in advance)))
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Be patient, & wait until spring. Будьте терпеливы и ждите до весны.
@user-ck1qy2cp7y
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I have calmed down and will wait for spring))))
@frankwilsonii7399
7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I watch several bonsai channels and none of them even did the first test, let alone the freeze/ thaw test. Thanks for the work you put in on this
@VinnyChirayil
7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree ! this is unique and it was an eye opener to SEE akadama's destruction. Part 2 is much better organized and presented than part 1. good improvements. very professional and brief,to the point. 👍
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, Frank! These things have always intrigued me, but it wasn't until I started making videos that I decided to test for myself. Hope the rest continue to help
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Vinny. As I just mentioned, I've always wondered about these things, until it was time to do it myself. Suggestions (like the charts) were great ideas. The next soil test will be drainage and aeration, which might help in your own studies. But, I also don't want to creep too far into what you've got going on, so I'm keeping it strictly to soil. I'll send you a message as I get closer, because I'd like to bounce some ideas around with you.
@matthewyakabuski9620
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to perform this experiment . As a Canadian bonsai enthusiast that is mainly interested in native trees . . I was extremely interested in the outcome . As most of my trees freeze in winter . Thank you i I use a granite absorbent pine mix but may try some coconut fibre in the future
@mrscotchguy
Жыл бұрын
Not sure why I never say the part 2 video! This is super helpful, thank you!
@BonsaiTalk
7 жыл бұрын
Such smart tests! Very good information for us struggling with cold winters and temperate bonsai cultivation.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Johan! It's just as helpful for me. I've been using diatomaceous earth for the last two and a half years, and I can see in the visible health of my trees what's going on underneath. Looks like I'll be adjusting for next year!
@BonsaiTalk
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai Same here, it's a hustle. I think im going to add more perlite.. no 3 is good enough for me Ben!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
I have perlite in a few specimens I purchased last year from Jim Doyle. I think many people use it in their pre-bonsai/collected materials, and I'm debating using it myself. I mean, it's been performing rather well! I'm also kinda liking the performance of the lava. I just need to source a decent (and I also mean cheap-ish) supply of it. My area is not naturally volcanic, so I might have to ship from somewhere like Oregon :/ we'll see.
@mar1video
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai - Midwest Perlite, Appleton WI. Horticulture perlite, as much as you want !
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
I may take you up on it! Lemme do some more research & check you guys out - Thanks @mar1video!
@TheCyberX
7 жыл бұрын
Oh man this was a fantatsic test! It´s a perfect example of what the soils goes trough here i Sweden. This is very usefull! Thank you a lot!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely welcome! I hope the rest will also be up to your liking. I really appreciate the comment!
@joeyhernandez14
7 жыл бұрын
Man this little series has done more for than you know . I can honestly say that I no longer have a wish to find akadama or pumice and the soil that I'm currently using will be fine for my trees. Thank you for your information and keep up the good work
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, @joeyhernandez14! I learned a bunch myself while doing it. Happy to help
@DolbecAqua
6 жыл бұрын
Love the structure of this video. It is very informative and it will help me a lot with my new hobby! Especially since I live and Canada and plan to collect some junipers that will experience freezing cycles.
@jaimethiessen
Жыл бұрын
So, what is your soil of choice now? I am in Canada also.
@DolbecAqua
Жыл бұрын
@@jaimethiessen I currently only have tropical/indoors bonsais since I moved in an appartment. So haven't had the chance to keep trees outside during the winter.
@jayceegudoy1801
7 жыл бұрын
Although I can not fully relate to the weather/climate/seasons being discussed because I live in a tropical country, I still learned a lot in this video. Thanks for sharing!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I know very little of tropicals, so I rely on information like yours to teach me!
@jayceegudoy1801
7 жыл бұрын
Sure! I'd be glad to make more videos about my tropical bonsai trees here!
@Bullylandmyk
11 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! Very interesting. If you are in an area that has snow there's a lot to consider ☝
@andreis.4584
7 жыл бұрын
The guy who press dislike probably made more important video about bonsai soils. Well done, Ben!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
That's funny! Thank you
@DaOzMan0608
6 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to future soil tests. Thank you for all the knowledge.
@Kamperi2013
3 жыл бұрын
Good job, good research 👍
@pupfriend
7 жыл бұрын
fantastic. thanks for doing this video. my latest soil mix is pine bark mulch, chicken grit, and turface. seems to be working well so far.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
That was my mix for many years, and there was nothing wrong with it. I had decided to start switching it around to see how my trees responded. There have been successes and non-successes (i.e. dead trees). These last two videos have informed me as much as, it seems, it's informed you! I'll be dialing it back a bit next spring repot season.
@bobrogers5522
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. Been using Turface MVP in my cold,wet climate and I have noticed the turface gets totally soaked. Going to try Turkey Granite Grit grandule size 3/8 to see if drainage is better. Thankyou very much for the video. Great job..
@carynludwig4084
3 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful! Thanks so much!👍
@casimirpellegrini7398
7 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome series! Thank you for your dedication and thoughtfulness. Cheers!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, Casimir! These things are interesting to me, and it's exciting to see that they're just as helpful for you
@jamestanch1452
6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am curious about diatomaceous earth, akadama, and pumice because there is so much variability in quality. Maybe if someone were to repeat this, they could try sourcing the materials from popular online retailers so it could be more broadly applicable. Thanks for the very informative video!
@mar1video
7 жыл бұрын
Wow ! This test is great ! Thank you for your time and effort that you put into this presentation !
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely welcome! And thank you again, for the perlite offer
@mar1video
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai - sorry if I misinformed you, but I'm not affiliated with Midwest Perlite. I bought some of their products and it was a very good quality, reasonably priced, horticulture grade perlite.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Aha! still, a great suggestion
@gtorresb1
7 жыл бұрын
Ben, congratulations on this informative and edifying new video. Keep up the good work and looking forwards to your next videos.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gustavo! I couldn't do it without the help and support from people like you!
@taciturnip
6 жыл бұрын
Downright scientific. Thanks.
@YaroslavPronin
7 жыл бұрын
Continue in the same spirit, good luck!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you YP! That means a lot!
@christinadeacon4749
Жыл бұрын
This was a very helpful video. Thank you.
@CakeZRqGoTR
7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more of these.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Another one is in the works, so I'm glad you'll stick around for it!
@CakeZRqGoTR
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai Glad to hear it. The whole of the Bonsai subreddit seemed to appreciate you and your building series, too.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Noice!!
@CakeZRqGoTR
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai Visit, sometime.
@808danimal
7 жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome, I never really thought about how each soil type will react to the elements. Thanks for the informative video(s)
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! I didn't even know until I tested
@ancientoak
Жыл бұрын
Crazy test. Your are a genius!
@sanjaysrivastava6879
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for very good soil test examples.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Sanjay! I hope the next ones are as good or better!
@johncloud8161
7 жыл бұрын
Ben, I've been a subscriber to you channel for some time, and look forward to you new videos. You have a great style of presentation. Thank you for all the time and effort you are putting in to this series of videos on soil. Thank you even more for sharing them with us. I noticed in you first video, and should have pointed it out then, that the pumice you are using in this test is actually KANUMA pumice. When dry it;s a pastel colored yellow/white, but when wet it is a dark yellow/orange. It is very porous, extremely light weight, and absorbs a lot of water. its also fairly acidic, and is used a lot for azaleas. All that being said, I don't think it is the same type of pumice being typically used for substrate mixes, like the most often recommended Akadama/Lava/Pumice mix.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
I did a little research, & I do believe you are correct! My personal soil amendment were limited, so I asked club members to provide a little of what they use. The kanuma pumice came from one of them, and I didn't bother to ask why kind it was. The correction will be made in the description of the published videos, and clarified in future vids. So many thanks, @john_cloud!
@johncloud8161
7 жыл бұрын
Kanuma is so soft, you can squeeze it into powder with very little pressure. It is softer than chalk.
@jaspershepherdsmith9047
7 жыл бұрын
You are doing god's work, sir.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
He/she must be exhausted then!! Whew! This one took forever!
@8872217
3 жыл бұрын
Good Job and Thank you Appalachian Bonsai!
@artao5
6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I'm brand new to bonsai, and just learned a bunch I reckon. I live in zone 4b/5a, so it gets pretty darn cold here during the winter. I can only imagine the frustration I'd have felt had I ordered some akadama, only to find it turned to total mush after a winter. NOW I'm thinking of going fully local: Collect some coarse sand from the river, some pine bark from the woods, and some sphagnum mosses from the woods, and use those three together. Perhaps with something even coarser than the sand, like granite. I'm also curious about limestone now, since that is EVERYWHERE around here. Thanks. :)
@AppalachianBonsai
6 жыл бұрын
Grow local. Your trees will thrive and you'll be able to appreciate them more. I'm excited you're up for it! Next spring, try collecting a few natives.
@dabblingwithbonsai
6 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thank you very much. For a starting bonsai-enthusiast living in finland you helped me solving a matter that's been bothering me now the autumn has come. Lucky I found your channel ^^, Cheerio
@maraflute
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jacqeyr6555
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your videos, im a brand new bonsai fan with seedlings on the way. after seeing your videos im doing collected materials to hone my skills... keep it going... a interested fan... ohh and this is my wifes account...just so you know... and bonsai miria fan i want to thank you both ive learned so much
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Very glad to know the videos are helpful! If you're going to collect, wait until the spring season before digging, as you'll have the best success rate. Get to know your tree, and how to care for it. I wish you luck!
@PutuWahyuArimbawa
7 жыл бұрын
Very good information... go to forest again and hunt some trees for Bonsai...can't wait man !!!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Just collect responsibly - good luck!
@PutuWahyuArimbawa
7 жыл бұрын
I mean I can't wait to watch you again back to forest or hills maybe to hunt some trees for Bonsai :D
@Malholde
7 жыл бұрын
Hello! Very informative and entertaining video (like all videos you post). The result with perlite surprised me however. I' ll share my story >:^) I live in Poland where climate is temperate and I made a mix consisting of perlite, peat moss and compost as a test. After I planted saplings into the mix, two episodes of freezing temperatures occured which made perlite cracked or very easy to crack making the whole mixture resembling clay, it was almost drainage-less. So if anyone wants to mix these two - be careful.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Definitely a fair warning!
@PeriodWoodworker
7 жыл бұрын
Good one!!!
@jaimethiessen
Жыл бұрын
I just came across your videos today. I sincerely thank you. Are there more soil test videos coming?
@CurrenCyPhWorld
7 жыл бұрын
so far so good thanks a lot for this ...
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
You bet, DC!
@thomaskrafft9890
7 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate the time and care you take to describe and research soils for bonsai. I very much would like the summary recipe for deciduous and conifers in a temperate climate. (What is your ideal mix?)
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
I'm still working on it, but well-draining is considered a good modern bonsai soil. Still testing the reasons why, but... There are some good guidelines, to be described in organic vs inorganic. And it also depends on how often you wish to water. Well-draining can be every day depending on climate and size of pots. Find whatever ingredients you have in your area, like Turface, or granite chips, or brick chips, or fir bark instead of pine bark, and start to try them. Deciduous: I do somewhere between a 60 : 40 ratio inorganic to organic. Some trees like it more damp than others (azaleas, bald cypress). Some also like it more acidic than others (azaleas). Some like it drier (oak). Conifers: I do 70 : 30 ratio, inorganic to organic, and have gone so far as having a completely inorganic mix. Works well as long as you provide the nutrients and water. Many pines like is dry, though some, like a white pine, can tolerate damper soils. Many like an acidic soil mix, so use pine or peat or fertilize with Miracid.
@thomaskrafft9890
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai Thank you so much!!! You are thoughtful, thorough, and concise--not qualities often found together. Your videos are strangely addictive....
@marcelosilva3581
7 жыл бұрын
ótimo video parabéns meu amigo um grande abrações aki do brasil
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado a você! Abraços
@MrTributes
7 жыл бұрын
gotta love those cicadas
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
They're in full force!
@charlesschrader2988
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@EzraJWong
5 жыл бұрын
Soo.. when is the next bonsai soil test again??? This is very informative and would really like to see what is next!! Great vids with good content!!!
@AppalachianBonsai
5 жыл бұрын
I have at least two tests in my head, I just haven't had the time to conduct them... but they're coming someday!
@GOzHARd901
7 жыл бұрын
Great videos, I knew there was another soil geek out there! Have you ever tried a product labeled as Michigan peat, which was sold (about 30 years ago) in uncompressed bags? It was chopped instead of milled,, and after sitting yielded about 50 large, 1/8 - 1/4 th inch particles?
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
I have a club member that just purchased some. I will be adding that to the next compilation of soil component tests!
@simonburdick3000
7 жыл бұрын
This series is so nice work, because its so fundamental in bonsai. and you just bring it to the point... (of several minutes) how much time did it take you for this ? ;) big thanks and greetings from germany
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! The tests took 2.5 days. The edit took two weeks. Whew!
@taciturnip
6 жыл бұрын
Good work.
@davidduvall9739
7 жыл бұрын
found your site and I think your closest bonsai site creator to me. I would like to get involved in bonsai again. I am in south eastern WV. and don't want to drive to Morgantown for events and group meetings. I know your in Appalachia in the Virginia area. I am on the border. Your videos have educated me on past collection mistakes and now feel confident enough to try again. Thanks very much for all the education. Think I left out I am on the VA. WV. boarder near Princeton WV. Also can you do a video on grafting local species? root and branch grafting? especially trident maple?
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it! I'm only 2 hours or so away. If I'm every cruising close, I should let you know. Clubs are definitely a great resource, and if there was one near you, I'd encourage it. It seems the closest one to Princeton would be the one in Roanoke, which I go to (it's still an hour drive for me to get there). They're extremely helpful, but not necessary. You may even be able to find bonsai people in your area that are also searching. I've had several commenst from people in WV. You never know until you ask around. I haven't done much grafting, but have plans to. I have done some layering on tridents, but that's for another video! Once I have enough footage to make worthwhile, I'll send it up.
@davidduvall9739
7 жыл бұрын
Think I will need to go to Roanoke soon, but cant wait to get trees again. Now I have none. Just cleaning my old tools and replacing the broken ones that I will need to start up again. I own my house now and wont ever move anymore so that's not going to be a problem anymore. The wife is from NC so will try to visit her family and make it to the Arboretum as well.
@nachoupe
7 жыл бұрын
thank you, thank you, thank you !!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, my friend! Thank you
@hamzaokutan7434
6 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video of The Best bonsai soil from your results of these videos
@AppalachianBonsai
6 жыл бұрын
I still have more testing to do, but I'll definitely give my recommendations after they're all done
@LessTalkMoreDelicious
4 жыл бұрын
Great tests! I will now always keep my eye open for Coir whenever shopping for organic bagged mixes ;) But, I question the pumice your using... it looks very soft and brown, looks exactly like Hyuga (Japanese pumice). US (west coast) pumice is much whiter, harder, sharper, I would bet made at higher temps, more visibly porous - US white pumice is almost kinda like black-lava-rock/scoria, but much lighter weight obviously, and maybe a little softer/milder. Mine hasn't broken down at all and is very hard/tough/sharp. EDIT: Ah, just read your Description.. so it's Kanuma. :)
@AppalachianBonsai
4 жыл бұрын
Good eye!
@susanta-swain
5 жыл бұрын
Well explained..
@ForgottenStreams
4 жыл бұрын
Great series! Will you continue it with a video on drainage? :)
@AppalachianBonsai
4 жыл бұрын
I still need to. Maybe this summer?
@TokinWhiteKid
7 жыл бұрын
I can't understand why someone in a part of North America that goes through freezes, would ever want Akadama in any of their Bonsai. It's expensive, hard to find, breaks down during freeze cycles, and turns to mush eventually. I don't mean any disrespect to people who use Akadama but it seems to me more like a popular fad than a sensible option.
@TokinWhiteKid
7 жыл бұрын
great video though! I'm learning so much from your channel.
@VinnyChirayil
7 жыл бұрын
After SEEING the akadama destruction, I now understand why Walter Pall was openly critical of it for European weather.
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
I'd always been curious about it, read lots of info, and found it WAY too expensive. That's when I started using diatomaceous earth as a kitty-dama alternative. Turns out it breaks down, too! It probably explains why my trees absolutely loved it their first year, but not so much the second (almost third). I think people's love for it stems from it's Japanese origins and history with bonsai. I get it, but we need to stop thinking that way and focus on what's best for our own individual climates & regions. Glad it's helping, Geoff!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
@Vinny Walter Pall was the first person I knew that ripped akadama to pieces. He can't stand it. I've ready from him and others that it broke down, but I never understood until I did this video. I wasn't using it anyway because it's hard to find and expensive, but even the alternative I used (diatomaceous earth) broke down after a few cycles. This is informing me just as much as it's informing others. It's awesome!
@etienneedward4449
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing information oh and tell your wife thanks for her great help from me as well
@prana2000
7 жыл бұрын
Ben, something's wrong with the instagram and facebook page links in the description section above. The Instagram link goes to a guy named /appalachian. The facebook link is goes to /appalachianb and is a dead link. And thank you for yet another wonderful video! Can't wait for video #3!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Fixed! @prana2000, you've saved my ass again!
@prana2000
7 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome! Also, the dry ice 78C? Do you mean -78C?
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Now you're just being nit-picky ;) fixed.
@welingtona.5466
7 жыл бұрын
New yamadori video! please!
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Don't worry. The next video will be a pine collection, hopefully by first week of August. It'll be a nice break between Soil Part 2 & Soil Part 3. Glad to know you're looking forward to it!
@shirlenehigbie5677
6 жыл бұрын
So okay.... I am totally confessed ..... What is -- Turface -- ? as you commented that it should be used with Pine Bark and Granted Chips -- in your first Soil Test video comments..... I did not see it listed here .... did I miss something ...... Also are the bags of Bonsai mix a good product to use ? .... Just getting started here ... Can you tell ..... ? .....HeeHee ... Thanks ... Shirlene
@alquilala5392
5 жыл бұрын
Sir I'm AL from the philippines, for u sir what kind of soil mixed is the best for any kind of bonsai plants? Thanks in advance for your honest answers. Godbless 😊!
@AppalachianBonsai
5 жыл бұрын
Check the video descriptions of specific trees I have. It's basically the same, and it works well for me in my region. Play around with the mixture until you find what works well for you. Cheers!
@user-ck1qy2cp7y
7 жыл бұрын
привет, подскажи пожалуйста когда лучше всего выкапывать ямадори, нашел два хороших деревца (граб и клен, фото могу кинуть в инстаграм) и не хочется ждать до весны, если сейчас их выкопать у них есть шанс выжить??? Если нет, то буду ждать весны, заранее благодарен)))
@AppalachianBonsai
7 жыл бұрын
Я определенно не буду сейчас, потому что это время самое высокое для смерти. Весна будет вашим лучшим выстрелом. Я знаю, что это отстой, ожидая, но это того стоит. Мне сложно ответить по-русски на Instagram, но я бы хотел посмотреть, что у вас есть. Это может быть проще поставить в сообщении Facebook.
@user-ck1qy2cp7y
7 жыл бұрын
Appalachian Bonsai спасибо большое 😉
@j.r.bertholet3644
3 жыл бұрын
¿Que mezcla usa usted?
@mycool8980
5 жыл бұрын
Where the PH testing?
@AppalachianBonsai
5 жыл бұрын
I had started to, then realized I compromised my tests. I'll be doing a video on this later on, but don't have the time just yet
@mariaeydmans6360
7 жыл бұрын
You keep calling it a bonZai ;)
@AppalachianBonsai
6 жыл бұрын
I have a hard enough time with English, let alone perfect Japanese pronunciations. ;)
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