"My hatred is stronger than my love. Weep for me. I said WEEP FOR ME, dammit!"
@melaniewilson1742
2 жыл бұрын
Best comment here honestly
@idktbh.2421
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a line out of a Shakespeare’s play
@the1nf3r10rone
2 жыл бұрын
@@idktbh.2421 lmao fr
@werelemur1138
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to mess it up by being the 667th like so here's a comment instead!
@RexxyRobin
2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyganillla4960 Anybody who wants to change stuff gets called an activist though. You are basically saying that the only way to participate in politics is if you dont oppose patriarchy, the gender binary, imperialism, racial hirarchies, or capitalism. And I know that is precisely how conservatives would like us to act, but the world can and needs to change
@sasukesarutobi3862
2 жыл бұрын
"Only the Tories will support me in discriminating against other members of my community, and I think that says a lot about the other parties!"
@Miles_Phantasmagoria
2 жыл бұрын
"What a world we live in where the most obviously right-winged party is the only one who will support my obvious right-winged beliefs! I cannot believe that my conservative beliefs about gender are most obviously represented by the Conservative party, and that I'm willing to put everyone in a worse situation than show even a smidgen of compassion to another marginalized group!!"
@Lucifersfursona
2 жыл бұрын
@@Miles_Phantasmagoria like I’m one trans person but I wouldn’t trade the violent conditional love of a fragile ruling class over the foundational embrace of the tons of people covered by intersections of humanism that are all working to communicate to a survivable, functional human future, long after I’m dead, but idk bruh that’s just an idea I didn’t need 6 decades to have Lmao that was kinda rude sorry boomer :(
@Miles_Phantasmagoria
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucifersfursona no worries, honey, I got your point
@dicklover4203
2 жыл бұрын
tf are tories
@MasonJumper
2 жыл бұрын
@@dicklover4203 members of the conservative party in the british parliament
@christinabutterfield1801
2 жыл бұрын
And then she voted for someone who thinks it should be illegal for her to have a wife.
@regs3941
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, suggesting that she's in a relationship with a ciswoman, she at least doesn't need to care about her reproductive rights being taken away
@Tayvin4042
2 жыл бұрын
terf logic at its finest XD
@g-l-o-s-s
2 жыл бұрын
XD
@definitelyarealperson248
2 жыл бұрын
We never said it’s illegal for women to marry. We’re not homophobic. We just said that their marriage won’t be recognised. They will be harassed for their relationship. They won’t be given the same legal protections. They’ll be discriminated against. They aren’t allowed to show any affection whatsoever with each other. Etc. (Basically excuses meaning it’s homophobic) It’s like how they say people are just fear mongering by calling the parental rights bill the don’t say gay bill since it doesn’t technically say gay in it. But if refers to sexual orientation and gender identity (excluding straight and cis). Aka the lgbtq community. Like if they want to be homophobic about it. Stop pretending that it’s something else.
@forgenorman3025
2 жыл бұрын
@@definitelyarealperson248 Way to miss the point.
@forgenorman3025
2 жыл бұрын
If she needed a politician to tell her what a woman is she has WAY bigger problems.
@forgenorman3025
2 жыл бұрын
@David Sim Music Gr8 b8 m8
@forgenorman3025
2 жыл бұрын
@David Sim Music Well she isn't here so that's not happening. Feel free to seek her out yourself though, I'm busy.
@neoqwerty
2 жыл бұрын
@David Sim Music I'd guess not, if she's asking everyone to define it. Or she has her own idea already made up and just wants to get into arguments with people who disagree with her and is asking that question in bad faith.
@grell5108
2 жыл бұрын
@David Sim Music go away, troll
@grell5108
2 жыл бұрын
@@neoqwerty your patience is admirable.
@sarahgent2674
2 жыл бұрын
To quote the inimitable Cody Johnston, "The Left got a little too PC so I changed all of my opinions about the economy, social issues, systemic racism, health care, and history." He was making a point about this type of person to be clear, he doesn't actually believe this
@AmazingAutist
2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mean to explain the joke
@sarahgent2674
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmazingAutist As a fellow autistic, I wanted to be super clear as tone, especially sarcasm, is often hard to read in text, and I respect Cody too much to have people think badly of him by mistake.
@adrienstarfaer
2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahgent2674 Thank you for explaining, it was very helpful, I don't think I would've entirely understood if you hadn't! 😊 (/Genuine)
@mockingjay478
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmazingAutist The context matters and it definitely helped me
@kaylaa2204
2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahgent2674 I'm not even autistic, and I think I would've been very confused whether it was sarcastic or genuine, just because of the way the joke is framed. I'm sure it made sense in context of the whole act, but alone, it's hard to tell
@432AlexH
2 жыл бұрын
“I’m ok with damaging my rights, the rights of people in my community and other minorities, if it means trans people will lose theirs.”
@the1nf3r10rone
2 жыл бұрын
perfectly summarized in a nutshell, well done
@margaretgibbs6673
2 жыл бұрын
These people will cut off their noses to spite their face. The same conservatives that loudly spread homophobic rhetoric about lesbians and all gays for that matter (oh and tried to make life harder not just got them but people of color and poor and disabled people but I guess they never mattered much right?) Are now suddenly necessary evil allies because of The Transgenders. I also have less than zero sympathy for people like this woman. I guess as long as some of the right people get hurt along the way it doesn't matter what damage Tories do...?
@dragonshadow4145
2 жыл бұрын
@@alsokaitlin this lady is straight up willing to sacrifice all her beliefs as a “leftie” just because she doesn’t like trans women That’s pretty cringe Like stick to your morals, you know?
@morningglory.2
2 жыл бұрын
@@alsokaitlin if you don’t think damaging people’s rights, promoting pure individualism, perpetuating hypocrisy and awarding free speech to only white straight people is wrong, sure. Guess nothing’s wrong :/
@Mayeur000Donz
2 жыл бұрын
Fuckin... RIGHT??? Like, what on earth kind of threat does this person think the Trans community poses to her that it would outweigh all her other values??
@jakethepillowsnake5302
2 жыл бұрын
"I voted against my own interests because the minutiae of my bigoted views are more important to me than human rights, mine included."
@RachelDee
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's her point. From her perspective or experience, THATS the choice that's LESS against her own interests than fully supporting the trans movement. I wonder what her exact basis for it was though. It's too simplified to just label it as bigotry.
@chesterdonnelly1212
2 жыл бұрын
@@RachelDee she is a feminist and she won’t support the erasing of women. It’s not hard to understand.
@AudiiN1
Жыл бұрын
perfectly summed
@bluedragonfly8139
Жыл бұрын
@@chesterdonnelly1212 Nah, she's not a feminist if she's voting against women's rights, both her own and transwomen's.
@bluedragonfly8139
Жыл бұрын
This.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
2 жыл бұрын
"If I take away the rights from another group, that magically transfers more rights to me, because that's totally how things work."
@lillian7194
2 жыл бұрын
Jazz Jennings doesn’t have a penis anymore because he wanted to wear a dress when he was 3. That’s why people are leaving.
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, much logic, smort
@perimele6
2 жыл бұрын
Remember this when women tell you TRAs have attacked our rights.
@potat8089
2 жыл бұрын
well that's what transgenderism does
@macairhead5137
2 жыл бұрын
What rights don’t they have? Smashing the Cotton Ceiling?
@Requiem2319
2 жыл бұрын
Does she not remember lesbians being the “lavender menace”? Cause same shit.
@ZoeAlleyne
2 жыл бұрын
Like, I don't ALWAYS agree with everything the more left party in my country states. But I vote for them for harm REDUCTION because even if they aren't perfect I am not a single issue voter. OOP votes purely with their transphobia.
@ZoeAlleyne
2 жыл бұрын
@@definitelyarealperson248 exactly. I assume that parties are going to lie to me, so I try and look at their track record, what they vote for and how it stacks up against my values, even if they aren't lock step with me. I make most of my decisions based on past actions, not future promises. But tbf, in other places it seems like a cluster fuck. Like with Trump you can't check his political history because he had none. Here we have a shadow government and an in power government and the parties elect the leaders of those government, which makes it a lot easier as a voter to check their history.
@nyandoesthings
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think this person was ever a leftie if the definition of a woman is enough to take them over to the other side. I think they thought that being gay and wanting to be allowed to marry made them a radical leftist, and probably spent a lot of time around right-wing views if they did think that made them a leftist
@ZoeAlleyne
2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyganillla4960 that's not a thing bro. Harm to who? I'm a gay jew and the right hates me.
@andreadamon2197
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, imagine being so transphobic that you’re willing to vote for a party that you disagree on everything else with 😂
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
What is transphobic here exactly?
@BambiTrout
2 жыл бұрын
If she's really a leftist then surely voting for class solidarity and a party that DOESN'T pass fascist anti-protest legislation is slightly more important than voting for which party can point more aggressively at a dictionary
@NigarIsHere
2 жыл бұрын
" *...Which party can point more aggressively at a dictionary.* " I- like, just... This might be one of the best sentences formed and it WILL BE ON MY GRAVESTONE!
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Gold
@solsystem1342
2 жыл бұрын
I belive youtube omitted "outdated" before the word dictionary in your comment.
@celestabelleabethabelle7551
2 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart to think there’s so much transphobia within the lgbtq+ community, even more so now that I’m dating a trans girl. She means the world to me…
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
It's sweet that you care about your partner so much.
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Love your pfp hon
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749 Ah, if it isn't my nemesis! (Evil laugh) Come to prevent me from supporting the LGBTQIA+ community, haven't you? Well, you're tooooo late!
@melaniewilson1742
2 жыл бұрын
@@squeaktheswan2007 There’s a story here and I want to hear it
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@melaniewilson1742 Samuel and Werewolf are both transphobes that circulate the channel sometimes. They both hate my ass so whenever they see me just vibin, they reply with "you" and get all huffy. Samuel is literally the second person here to reply to me like they don't know I come here often.
@bbear2695
2 жыл бұрын
if they dont know who the women are, how ever will they know who's reproductive rights need taking away?
@definitelyarealperson248
2 жыл бұрын
😂 Also I’ve seen a weird new side to that debate. Where people want to give potential fathers the right to either force the woman to abort the baby or prevent her from aborting the baby. Because if women have the choice. So should men. I don’t understand how they became like that. Do they think doctors will hold a woman down and forcefully abort the baby because the potential father said no. Like I understand that women have the choice of having an abortion or not. But men either have to be in the child’s life or pay child support. So they don’t exactly have the same choice. But these people just don’t understand the issue.
@asuka_the_void_witch
2 жыл бұрын
boom headshot
@glorydragon2597
2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit
@idktbh.2421
2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS GOLDEN
@definitelyarealperson248
2 жыл бұрын
@semi horny german scientist if the father wants the child and the mother doesn’t. Does the father then pay for all her lost wages during pregnancy and recovery. All her pregnancy related medical bills. All the extra clothes she needs to buy because her body has changed. Possible therapy because giving birth can be extremely stressful and traumatic. Etc. Since the mother just wants an abortion and wouldn’t have to pay for any of those bills if he didn’t want the child. What if people want to be childfree etc, can they get abortions? Or is it just when deemed necessary for health reasons etc.
@Dark_Side_Productions
2 жыл бұрын
She’s giving up her rights so someone else can’t have theirs. How pathetic 🤢 Edit: I accidentally pressed send while writing this oops
@ThatRandomJaz
2 жыл бұрын
THIS
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Aye
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyganillla4960 How do you figure?
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyganillla4960 I don't follow UK politics much, so I can't speak to that. Explain your "bullied by activists" comment, please.
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyganillla4960 I expect people to treat each other with common decency and understand that complete strangers have no business caring about what's between someone's legs, any more than they have any business telling them who they can love. So yes, I expect understanding and inclusiveness.
@scarlettgrey256
2 жыл бұрын
This is the “the left forced me to be a Nazi by calling me one” meme
@jessegiroux6521
2 жыл бұрын
The left's obsession with Nazis is truly bizarre
@freakishuproar1168
2 жыл бұрын
To think that it's the 21st century, I'm a centre-left straight cis man, and yet I share a planet with a _LESBIAN_ who voted for the conservatives. "What a time to be alive" indeed!
@salmon1290
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr it's like Mexican Americans who voted for trump like.... bruh idk what your though process was
@jessegiroux6521
2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would sexuality and nationality be correlated to who people vote for?
@polariti9503
2 жыл бұрын
@@salmon1290 Depends on the invidual standpoint. If you were a Mexican American whose family lived here for decades, you’ll probably vote for Trump. If you immigrated recently, you’ll vote for Biden most likely. Not everything is based on correlation to a majority.
@polariti9503
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessegiroux6521 Exactly.
@nukiradio
2 жыл бұрын
"I'm so oppressed. I was FORCED to vote for TORIES!!! I'm such a leftisssst" This woman, goodness
@lazyperfectionist3978
2 жыл бұрын
@@lillian7194 - citation needed
@solsystem1342
2 жыл бұрын
@@lillian7194 I presume they're getting a doctor's approval? I don't see why you think your opinion is more important then the doctors?
@nukiradio
2 жыл бұрын
@@lillian7194 would like a source
@jacineyatrakos3149
2 жыл бұрын
@@lillian7194 source?
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@drsamuelhaydensecretgaming6749 Ngl, this reads like borderline conspiracy theorist stuff. Yeah, doctors are people too and can make mistakes, but I'd sooner trust them with their years and years of study and work in their chosen field than Karen on Facebook who spent five minutes on Google.
@RexxyRobin
2 жыл бұрын
This is basically: "I will only vote for people with a simplistic (or maybe exclusionary) worldview. Screw nuance and the fact that philosphers since ancient times weren't actually able to get a clear prescriptive definition of what a man or a woman is." The fact that conservatives can give you a three word definition of what a woman is, is not a good thing! It means they are painfully ignorant.
@joda7697
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the only discipline where answers are not up for debate is math. Acually no that's a lie, still depends on the arbitrary choice of axioms.
@RexxyRobin
2 жыл бұрын
@@joda7697 Imagine thinking that somebody is knowledgable about literature because they can give you a three word summary of all of Shakespeare's works :D
@joda7697
2 жыл бұрын
@semi horny german scientist random bit-flips can occurr not even computers are 100% deterministic
@elizathegamer413
2 жыл бұрын
Also the "3 word definition" does nothing like ok you abstracted it one layer what does adult mean, what does human mean, what does female mean
@alsokaitlin
2 жыл бұрын
God always does everyone hates republicans?
@chelsgo8675
2 жыл бұрын
I now vote for the restriction of gay rights and women's rights. How could trans people do this to me? Like, I'm sorry, if you're willing to throw away everything you believed in and fuck over practically every single marginalized community all because trans people make you uncomfortable it makes me doubt how much you ever actually believed in anything.
@genericname2747
2 жыл бұрын
*votes to remove my rights* why did trans people do this?
@theghostking5008
2 жыл бұрын
Why is it written like a wattpad story 💀
@MovableNu
2 жыл бұрын
Because this person likely doesn't exist. It was very likely written by a transphobe cis-gendered, straight man trying to stir 💩. Happens all the time, alas.
@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I agree
@sleepysmartboy6287
2 жыл бұрын
"I'm willing to sacrifice my rights to oppress there's. Cry for me"
@stacyharrington504
2 жыл бұрын
“Yes, I know that I voted for lower standards of healthcare, lower standards of education, and higher costs of living, but it’s ok because they support discriminating against people I don’t like.”
@tyranno-solei-rex
2 жыл бұрын
….and WHY is it important to her that she’s left handed??
@sarahgent2674
2 жыл бұрын
Left Wing. Although she voted tory so can't actually be that left wing
@glam.deathbat
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny cuz they really think they're saying sum 💀 I feel sorry for these ppl.shout out to all my open minded people who have human decency 👌🏻 it's nice looking over the ppl who are so so very close minded 😂 .. I just feel really sorry for these ppl. Hopefully someday they realize how ignorant they are. Some do, alot don't.
@Anonymous-sq6eo
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it feels like to think so arrogantly of myself.
@andrejnawoj8471
2 жыл бұрын
Not a leftie if trans rights are a political deal breaker
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Not a good person* if trans rights are a political deal breaker
@xotbirdox
2 жыл бұрын
_Maybe,_ just maybe, if you're at the point where you're voting for the Tories when you never thought you would, you should rethink your ideology and consider how it aligns with the right-wingers who have always hated queer people and who literally brought in Section 28.
@alexket8403
2 жыл бұрын
lily alexander's latest video (what are women?) is great to go with this subject. she explains in great detail what women may or may not be described as, why it matters to the transphobes and why it actually doesn't matter. maybe someone will enjoy it :)
@solsystem1342
2 жыл бұрын
@@Seventhhour man/women are not categories that we use to describe most of the animal kingdom. Male and female are categories more commonly used in biology since while not rigidly defined they act as a short hand that covers most species in most cases. For example you might say "a female deer" but, you wouldn't say "a deer women" because "women" is a social category that has to do with a bunch of assumptions we apply to human people who present as women.
@RexxyRobin
2 жыл бұрын
@@Seventhhour Did it occur to you, that the way we refer to animals as female and male are also just simplified shorthands and kind of weird in their implications if apllied to a whole species?
@crazydragy4233
2 жыл бұрын
@@RexxyRobin Anyone who knows shit about animals would realise this is an absolutely idiotic take lol. But the "natural" arguments are never built on knowledge or logic
@perimele6
2 жыл бұрын
You just admitted you don't think the definition of woman matters. This is misogyny and erasure of women.
@RexxyRobin
2 жыл бұрын
@@perimele6 The constitution of the united states, including the amendments, never once mentions the word woman, yet they managed to get women the right to vote, to get divorced, to have abortions.. Not to say that the US beat sexism, it is still sexist as hell, but you don't need the definition to provide protections or achieve equality. Also: the defnition of a Christian is not important and yet Christians are far from erased. THe definition of a Star Wars fan is not important, but they still exist and can participate in society and discourse...
@thetea4093
2 жыл бұрын
As a lesbian, we do not claim her
@elysianfibres1642
2 жыл бұрын
The same party that brought in Section 28. Slow clap
@tourmelion9221
2 жыл бұрын
What's that?
@elysianfibres1642
2 жыл бұрын
@@tourmelion9221 It was a law that forbade the discussion of homosexuality in schools.
@tourmelion9221
2 жыл бұрын
@@elysianfibres1642 that's shit, damn do I hate tories
@polariti9503
2 жыл бұрын
@@elysianfibres1642 That’s a good thing… Sir, ma’am, or any other gender, Are you a groomer?
@sushiroll3795
Жыл бұрын
@@polariti9503 "Groomer" doesn't mean "mentioning the existence of gay people to kids," ya dum dum.
@kazikek2674
2 жыл бұрын
TERF & similar viewpoint : "Woman : Aged body with the right junk. Maybe something about chromosomes. But not too much, because I'm not really familiar with all these abnormalities." Ah, yes. Decades if not centuries of feminism look upon you with pride.
@AmaraFerris
2 жыл бұрын
Woman: adult human female. That’s all there is to it.
@Schnort
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmaraFerris what is a female? XX chromosomes? Nah, intersex people. A vagina and feminine reproductive system? Nah, intersex people. A societal view of people that is affected, but not defined by, physiology? Definitely.
@werelemur1138
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmaraFerris: a shining example of what happens to someone who equates watching Kindergarten Cop with years of studying biology.
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
Terf: Karen with an 11 year itch.
@AmaraFerris
2 жыл бұрын
@@werelemur1138 I’m using the fucking dictionary definition, hahaha. Cute though
@totallyoutofit6989
2 жыл бұрын
LMAO she reminds me of that meme: "spare oppression? spare oppression ma'am?" like she wants to be the victim so bad - like, should have thought about that before being transphobic? 💀
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
How exactly is she transphobic tho
@TheRealG5
2 жыл бұрын
@@notfunny1410 they implied that trans women were’t women.
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealG5 i mean physically they are not so how is that transphobic?
@rainestorm7777
2 жыл бұрын
As a non-binary lesbian, we do not claim this person as part of the lesbian community
@micahroberts8383
2 жыл бұрын
She identifies as a lesbian, though? Distancing yourself from people in your community with whom you disagree is the TERFs' tactics, not ours. Just a thought!
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
Cast the transphobe into the volcano.
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Good, you shouldn't claim this person!
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
So I'm straight now? K
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@notfunny1410 So that's you that Jamie was talking about?
@asuka_the_void_witch
2 жыл бұрын
"leftie"
@LAURA---
2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t get it when marginalised groups shit all over other marginalised groups. You know how it feels so why tf are you contributing to someone else’s suffering?
@genericname2747
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like, why are you trying to oppress someone else instead of working together to both stop being oppressed
@rain_drops2723
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine hating someone so much, you are willing to lose YOUR RIGHTS just so they lose theirs too. Wtf kinda logic is that? People are real stupid.
@Binary-
Жыл бұрын
"I mean, what's the Face Eating Leopard Party going to do if I give them my vote? Eat MY face? Surely not!"
@alexnoctum2951
2 жыл бұрын
That person needs to cope harder. Trans people exist, get over it lol
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Trans people exist, get used to it
@overcookedcooki5285
2 жыл бұрын
What is a woman?
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
@@overcookedcooki5285 you don't know?
@overcookedcooki5285
2 жыл бұрын
@@calypsosnowy Well, I want an answer, not knowledge. A good answer, one that includes a definition.
@overcookedcooki5285
2 жыл бұрын
@semi horny german scientist How do I know I'm not intersex? Your definition for woman is great (not that I am to judge)
@starlightlion8603
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a lesbian for 62 years and still not knowing what a woman is
@potat8089
2 жыл бұрын
When people ask "What is a woman?" to gender ideologues it's not because they don't know, it's because the OFFICIAL definition is adult human female (which gender identity tries to change). not a single trans activist (myself included) can define woman, therefore it is a valid question to people wishing to be women
@starlightlion8603
2 жыл бұрын
@@potat8089 1) Somebody has demonstrably missed the joke, and it's not me. 2) You've told on yourself; that's not what gender identity is. 3) Pack it up bois, I've found the transphobe.
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@starlightlion8603 you people always call others "transphobes" and fail to even give an explanation Is it Tourette?
@salmon1290
2 жыл бұрын
Her; "what is a woman?" - litterly who u sleep with, do we need to explain what a lesbian is?
@genericname2747
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a lesbian. I only date men, as this is the only gender. What is a woman???????
@Kai_The_Kai
2 жыл бұрын
LGBTQIA+ You can’t just support 1 part
@asuka_the_void_witch
2 жыл бұрын
you can,.....
@Kai_The_Kai
2 жыл бұрын
@@asuka_the_void_witch only if you’re homophobic or transphobic
@definitelyarealperson248
2 жыл бұрын
Well you can. Some gay people are transphobic etc. They shouldn’t. But some people are like that etc. And bi hate is strong with some gay people who think they’re just gay but want a safety net of being straight. Or think bi people are no longer bi if they date someone of the opposite sex
@girlwithtehface5880
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kai_The_Kai Or acephobic or biphobic. Some people think asexuality doesn't exist or is a disorder. Some people think bisexual people are more likely to cheat or "haven't chosen a side." Utter nonsense, of course, but so is all bigotry.
@ThatRandomJaz
2 жыл бұрын
intersex people existing like i’d love to know what your gender rules for them are
@bodyhairpositive9485
2 жыл бұрын
"I'm a cisgender woman lesbian, who wants better rights for cisgender women and lesbians, but I would rather ALL women have FAR less human rights, than for ALL women to have more human rights."
@laienna8759
2 жыл бұрын
@@perimele6 well every woman should accept males
@Unchained_Alice
2 жыл бұрын
It'd be hilarious if their MP ended up being Jamie Wallis.
@Maerahn
2 жыл бұрын
In other words "My right to be an uniformed bigot is *so* important to me, I'd even vote against my own interests and the interests of society at large just to maintain it! Can't wait for Christmas - signed, A Turkey."
@sidneygreenglass106
2 жыл бұрын
I'm an older lefty lesbian and I can't believe it. 😔 People, this stuff is fixing to get hectic!
@Mayeur000Donz
2 жыл бұрын
THAT is the deciding factor for her?? Like, even for transphobes, does all the trans stuff really overshadow every-goddamn-thing else a usual liberal would want to vote the Tories out for?
@Deas-Mhumhna
Жыл бұрын
Um.... she does understand conservative states are voting to take her right to marriage and kids, right? Like, thats happening right now. 😐
@AviyaleTales
Жыл бұрын
Umm no it isnt? Lol
@A_Silly_Fella
Жыл бұрын
@@AviyaleTales umm yes it is? The Republican Party in the us has been passing multiple bills across the county to take away the rights of gay people and also the rights of trans people it really just takes a quick google search of anti gay laws or anti trans laws to see dude
@Deas-Mhumhna
Жыл бұрын
@@AviyaleTales you haven't watched the news, have you? There are states currently that have voted to not let same sex couples raise kids. The Government had to come in with the supreme court and give them a smack on the hand.
@AviyaleTales
Жыл бұрын
@@Deas-Mhumhna um yeah cause if you want to do that cool but you lost the ability to have kids... also its wrong to surround a kid with a single gender all thier life. Your not thinking of the kids you thinking of yourself
@1cattails
2 жыл бұрын
Its sad that a lesbian is transphobic when she probably went through such a similar experience and hate. doesnt she see how its hurting people? Its like how people of color can be homophobic/transphobic and lgbt+ people can be racist. and its super common. Like, wth??
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
It's... terrifyingly common, I hate the world because of hate. Hate is the main reason why we're not already on the moon again
@lillian7194
2 жыл бұрын
When has the trans community ever cared about how women have felt hurt by them?
@crazydragy4233
2 жыл бұрын
tbf... internalised Xphobia is very real and alive in all of us...
@perimele6
2 жыл бұрын
Do you see how it might be hurting women to erase the meaning of the word Woman? Do you see how it might hurt lesbians to erase the meaning of lesbian? Do you see how it might hurt children to tell them they were born in the wrong body, and to stunt their growth?
@1cattails
2 жыл бұрын
@@perimele6 im not telling random children they were born in the wrong body though
@alexreid1173
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine voting against your own beliefs and interests because of a definition
@formlessentity
2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was satire at first
@northfall_6456
Жыл бұрын
Hmm do I want to keep my rights or lose them and make another group lose their rights. Such a tough decision.
@micahroberts8383
2 жыл бұрын
If the ONLY political party aligned with you is one you feel is generally misaligned with your values, then maybe the belief you hold is also misaligned with your values. This at least seems worth a second thought, ya know?
@alsokaitlin
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, political parties aren't perfect. Like I'm very left and right, depending on the topic. I'm right on economics, gun control. But I'm left with more social things like Healthcare (I dont want *free* Healthcare tho,), abortion, LGBTQA+
@draalttom844
2 жыл бұрын
@@alsokaitlin so you just ignore that fact that the system is bad (conservative view point) and act like all those things you care about could change without changing the system. (Not left, stupid)
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
@@alsokaitlin I'm all for guns, but I'm also all for criminal record and background checks, what about you?
@alsokaitlin
2 жыл бұрын
@@calypsosnowy duh there should be background checks (there already is) but I don't want it to be almost impossible to get a gun
@Sly-Moose
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even understand what that transphobe was trying to say! XD
@potat8089
2 жыл бұрын
She said that she didn't want to vote Conservative but she found it to be the only option, since no one on the left can define what "woman" means anymore. Hope that clarifies it 👍
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@potat8089 Does it really "need" defining, though?
@Sly-Moose
2 жыл бұрын
@@potat8089 Well that's terfy
@potat8089
2 жыл бұрын
@@asherikamichaela8425 Of course, why would you identify as something if you don't even know what it is? For example; if you are going to identify as a socialist you should know what socialism is
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@potat8089 Hm. I suppose you're right. I'd never really applied that method of thought to something as fundamental as gender. It just... was. More a feeling and a state of being than a cut and dry definition.
@liamthetranskid1263
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jamie I just want to say thank you so much for posting videos you really have inspired me so much and given me the confidence to get my first ftm haircut (im 12)
@TaruOwO
2 жыл бұрын
At first I thought this was a dramatic satire written by a trans woman.
@Kaalokalawaia
2 жыл бұрын
"confused in American" -- Oh!! I get it now.. derp
@Ambipie
Жыл бұрын
when you cut off your nose to spite your face
@notcharli3393
2 жыл бұрын
ngl this sounds like smth you’d write for english in year 7
@Jessie_0844
Жыл бұрын
I'm tired of conflict within the community
@MrMonoposon
Жыл бұрын
I don't think they can consider themselves leftist after this.
@carleigh.charlton
2 жыл бұрын
“only party that can tell me what a woman really is” 1) why does this lesbian woman not know for herself…. and 2) why is the accepted definition “breeding machine”
@got_an_ace_up_my_sleeve
2 жыл бұрын
Day 4 of asking Jamie to do an Asexual Tik Tok review. Jamie if you see this, watching your video helped me learn about being asexual, from there I researched more. Two days ago I told my sister that I think I might be ace, turns out she thinks she might be too. So thank you soo much and please do an Asexual Tik Tok review!
@elizabethking8373
2 жыл бұрын
I hate this mentality. If you only want a cispartner, go for a cis partner. No pity for cis women only lesbian spaces either, all women deserve inclusion. Especially with the rate of violence and murder committed against the community? Have a heart.
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Well said, friend
@perimele6
2 жыл бұрын
You just admitted you want to erase the definition of lesbian, and take away lesbian spaces. This is backwards, not progress.
@elizabethking8373
2 жыл бұрын
@@perimele6 I understand that viewpoint; that's when you create lesbian spaces exclusive to that "definition", if you really feel the need. I see spaces for gay men + (male+female) bisexual + lesbian, bisexual women + lesbian spaces, lesbian spaces only and now I suppose we need a Sapphic space in addition to a TERF lesbian space. Trans women existence doesn't erase anyone else's existence, they need inclusion. Marsha P. Johnson was the trans woman activist to kick off the Stonewall Riots. There's nothing stopping you from creating your exclusive club and having gold star celebrations. Also the concept of cisgender same-sex women relationship being attached to the lesbian label came with the second wave of feminism where there was a socio-political call for exclusion from men; prior to, "lesbian" only referred to women engaging in same sex relationships and activity, they could have husbands - if only to benefit from the man's ability to own property and wealth. Definitions are not static - they change over time through social linguistics.
@ElsebelseElsbeth
Жыл бұрын
I really don't get, why so many of my fellow lesbians/bis/pans feel threatened by trans people... Honestly, what's their problem?
@Ya_boi_khoi
Жыл бұрын
I’m apart of the lgbtq community but I only support some of them It’s like saying you like burgers but only like the burger to come from the same cow 💀
@Euro.Patriot
Жыл бұрын
It's not.
@Ya_boi_khoi
Жыл бұрын
@@Euro.Patriot it is
@o11iepdragoon32
Жыл бұрын
@@Euro.Patriot are you lgbtq
@bath_foam4576
Жыл бұрын
the shock horror she's going to experience when the tories take away her rights too
@thewallthatsuffocatedjoerg6307
2 жыл бұрын
Your opinions about the economy and literally every other social issue plaguing politics doesn’t just change because of how PC one side is. This was clearly written by a 65 year old conservative man, who got kicked out of Hooters for being a problem.
@theduckyninja1086
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I genuinely thought this post was a joke but apparently it's serious?? It has to be by a conservative man
@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun
2 жыл бұрын
😳 damn
@KyleRayner12
2 жыл бұрын
I think you might be underestimating how fast some TERFs are to abandon their ostensible ideals. While "conservative man with the writing style of a Wattpad tween" is certainly an option, I have no trouble believing that this was written by your standard Rowling supporter.
@thewallthatsuffocatedjoerg6307
2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleRayner12 Another reason to hate TERFs? Sure why not?
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
What's the bet that the author of that nonsense is actually a conservative? I mean, they're the ones who tend to need help figuring out what things are and then hating them regardless these days. I dunno, this kinda reads like a post on r/thathappened. 🤔
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds accurate. I often see conservatives trying to act like members of minority groups to be like "I'm not ___ist, you're ___ist because I'm over here" and stuff. They just pick a stock photo off Google and create a story around it. It's hilarious to see the same account go from an atheist African American dude in his 30's to an Asian teen lesbian to an Islam practicing vegan in a matter of weeks and expect people not to notice that the name is the same. There's a dime a dozen claiming false crud to escalate people to their dumbassery. In short, it's a catfish. Just look up r/quityourbullsh*t.
@asherikamichaela8425
2 жыл бұрын
@@squeaktheswan2007 Good point lol
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@asherikamichaela8425 Thanks.
@SideSun
Жыл бұрын
"Heh heh heh. No." I loved that deadpan no.
@GayToBeHere
Жыл бұрын
I'm a leftist and I always vote for left-leaning parties, even when I don't fully agree with them. You don't deserve to call yourself a left-wing if you value your pwecious feewings over basic human rights.
@ellensilvers7317
Жыл бұрын
She does realise that the Tories are most likely to take away her rights away too? Right? Ma'am you are just digging your own grave 😭
@larafields3106
Жыл бұрын
She's just outing her own privilege .
@AviyaleTales
Жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Joes8186
2 жыл бұрын
Here I was thinking a regular terf was narrow minded
@FairyPhantasia
2 жыл бұрын
Using the word AGAINST sounds like she didn't vote for them. Or this a possible difference in word usage?
@neoqwerty
2 жыл бұрын
"I leaned against the wall." doesn't mean I leaned anywhere BUT on the wall. Shitty use of a word that usually happens when someone has a poor grasp of the english language and wants to sound educated. Source: English second language who learned how NOT to end up like that while trying to sound like ye olde theatrical and drama-festooned wreck, alas and woe be mine heart.
@Arosukir6
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's a UK-English thing. Sounds super weird to folks who learned American English, like how the UK uses "first floor" to mean "first floor *above* the ground," which folks in the US call the second floor. English in general is so damn confusing. Like, you can lean against (touching/connected to) a wall, but you fight against (in opposition to) bad ideas. Plus you can do battle against (both touching *and* in opposition to) an army. They're all subtly different. It's like the poem "The Chaos." A brain-melting read you can find online.
@jamieo2147
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't a Tory MP just come out as trans? I was hoping they could do some good but then they got arrested for not stopping at an accident so they will probably have lost any stay they may have had.
@coralovesnature
2 жыл бұрын
Just because someone is trans doesn’t mean they care about the trans community’s rights. See for example: Caitlyn Jenner, Blair White
@jamieo2147
2 жыл бұрын
@@coralovesnature True
@janrebie
2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like it was ripped from wattpad
@Hereticalchristian
2 жыл бұрын
I’m no expert but I think the transphobe is lying
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
As if that's not common, haha
@squeaktheswan2007
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sounds legit.
@potat8089
2 жыл бұрын
every comment here is saying she's transphobic, but I really can't see anything transphobic in what she wrote. If saying that the leftists (like me btw) can't define "woman" is transphobic, maybe that should clue people in.
@d_camara
2 жыл бұрын
Subtext. It's not transphobic to say that in a vacuum, but she said that meaning it's a bad thing and we all know conservatives, and mostly transphobes, think it's a bad thing and repeat the same words because they are transphobic, she also voted right because she wants trans rights to be taken away, she voted the party that almost made children in the US obligated to be "examinated" in school by any staff member who wishes to "certify" their gender or else not be able to attend to PE, and the party pushing for trans people being denied public health care, not even trans health care, any, if you break an arm and are trans you don't get it, it's already partially in law
@jacineyatrakos3149
2 жыл бұрын
Lol cry troll
@macairhead5137
2 жыл бұрын
@@d_camara what rights don’t they have? Why would ONE special group be entitled to free healthcare? The invention of the ‘Cotton Ceiling’ is partly to blame for this viewpoint.
@d_camara
2 жыл бұрын
@@macairhead5137 everyone has free healthcare except this group, there's no problem there?
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacineyatrakos3149 I don't think you know what a troll is...
@cole.slays.
2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday a man said from behind me your lace is untied son. Son ee a tingle ran down my spine when he said son
@calypsosnowy
2 жыл бұрын
Aye!!
@grell5108
2 жыл бұрын
I know!!! A while back an old man asked me to get a jar down from a shelf in the supermarket since I'm a "tall, young man" and I still get tingles!!! Probably thought I was 14 (way my language works he said child) but it WAS the right gender, so yeah.
@the_roach_king.
2 жыл бұрын
I’m just imagining this in real life- *Crying* “What’s wrong sir? Why are you crying?” “Because the lesbians can only tell me what a women is…” “I-“ *Bawling*
@insertcheesypunhere
Жыл бұрын
i dont mean to be one of those "no true scotsman" folks...but i thought the whole point of leftist thought was uniting together with people to fight for a better world. to join together, in spite of your individual differences, to fight your shared enemy. to participate in any form of bigotry is such a violation of that.
@SoraQuill
Жыл бұрын
This comment section is amazing. I love you all (Disclaimer, i scrolled down like eight comments and they were all pro-trans and making fun of the lady. I didn’t look at replies and I didn’t see any of the bad comments if there are any)
@wacawaka1802
Жыл бұрын
Hi again homophobe? Still bashing gays online for not agreeing with you?
@v1ncefan828
Жыл бұрын
“We are the most loving people on earth”
@WackaWackaMonkeyV2
Жыл бұрын
W profile
@Unknown_Entity_666
Жыл бұрын
As a lesbian, we don't accept that girl. She can says she's a lesbian all she wants, but wlw/nmlnm association will ensure she's stuck falling I love w/ straight girls.
@LesbeansAndRice
2 жыл бұрын
I literally didn’t understand what the post was trying to say until he said it was transphobia lol
@aliceslab
Жыл бұрын
the idea that youd just abandon your political convictions just to have hate for people is whats crazy. this wasnt even meant to be a political talking point, its a medical process, it has nothing to do with her.
@birdsbirdsandmorebirds6251
2 жыл бұрын
I love how passive aggressive you are
@laiclaro9100
2 жыл бұрын
For a progressive person to become a conservative one, they only need to stop updating their ideas
@littleblueclovers
2 жыл бұрын
I had to rewatch because I didn’t understand what her initial problem was. Some people really go through such mental gymnastics and act like the victim
@tobybartels8426
2 жыл бұрын
I shed a tear as this 62-year-old former leftie, like many 62-year-old former lefties before her, becomes a conservative. She should admit it.
@cncinc100
2 жыл бұрын
The one issue voter at work.
@paulwilliammonks1
2 жыл бұрын
I just dont understand why these people cant understand when we try to explain why the word Woman can be used in more one definition What makes it even more frustrating js how they use stories of stright cis men wearing a wig to supposedly enter every single womens changing room that exists. Even though stopping trans women from using said spaces will do nothing to stop straight cis men trying to enter them. Not to mention them forgetting that also means that trans men like Jamie would have to use womens spaces, if these laws went ahead.
@perimele6
2 жыл бұрын
Why can't you understand the word Woman is already taken, it already has a meaning, and males can't have it. When did the "left" stop caring about appropriation, just because they decided they wanted to do it to women.
@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSun
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@paulwilliammonks1
2 жыл бұрын
@@perimele6 erm, "males" dont want it. I think you've misunderstood the issue.
@GayLPer
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny because if you include the dictionary definition of "trans woman", then "woman" meaning "adult human female" includes trans women. Because trans women are also adult human females.
@angelaburrow8114
2 жыл бұрын
So she's voted Tory. In 2018 the UN Special Rapporteur on extreme poverty & human rights said that British Tory Government policies & cuts to social support "are entrenching high levels of poverty & inflicting unnecessary misery", "driven by a political desire to undertake social re-engineering rather than economic necessity". According to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation's UK Poverty Report 2022 states that more than 1 in 5 of the UK population (22%) are in poverty. That's 14.5 million people. Of these, 8.1 million are working-age adults, 4.3 million are children & 2.1 million are pensioners. That's 31% of British children living in poverty. Since 2017 there has been a 52% increase in the number of children destitute, & 52% of adults. 1 in 7 people in work are destitute. There's something completely screwed up if working people experience such extreme poverty. But she's voted Tory because of transphobia. That's the most important thing to her. What an idiot! I hope she remembers that decision when she has to switch off her heating even though she's freezing, or she needs a doctor but can't afford to see 1 & the NHS has been sold off. Or she or her loved ones lose their job because the company they work for has gone bust due to Brexit. At least she'll be kept happy by the thought that she let transpeople know she didn't support them. If not for transpeople, the Stonewall riots wouldn't have happened & the situation for LGBTQ+ people would be worse than it is. I cannot understand anyone condemning the country to more misery simply because of an irrational fear or hatred of a group of people whose only crime is they want to live their true life.
@andreadamon2197
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like people don’t understand that language evolves and words change over time. We wouldn’t have English at all if the evolution of language wasn’t a thing. Every word and definition had to be made up by someone at some point in time. If you would’ve looked at a dictionary 150 years ago (or even 50 years ago), it would’ve been significantly more racist than it is today. And I think nowadays we’re going to see another evolution of dictionaries to accommodate the existence and validity of trans people and to recognize that gender isn’t as simple or ordained as people broadly once thought. We’ve already had cisgender in the Oxford dictionary for 7 years now
@narwhals4550
2 жыл бұрын
Jamie, your videos always help me through my day. Thank you for making this world a little bit better.
@TheBusyJane
2 жыл бұрын
I hope to one day understand how people who adopt progressive views in their youth fail to recognize they became more conservative with age. But also, I hope I don't.
@perimele6
2 жыл бұрын
When I was young, progress meant enshrining women and girls' right to sport in law. Progress meant doing away with medical abuse. Now, "progress" is forcing us to accept males in our sports. It is pretending puberty blockers are "safe and reversible", and a great thing to do to children. True feminist values haven't changed. We've just witnessed institutional capture.
@CYTM
2 жыл бұрын
That's kind of the natural progression of things. Your views gradually get more rigid when you're around 40, but the political spectrum keeps moving. So it's natural for someone to end up siding with a different side when they get older, depending on which direction the whole political spectrum is moving towards.
@notfunny1410
2 жыл бұрын
Because it's becoming too pc and pretty ridiculous at this point
@nicholashoward971
Жыл бұрын
She is just as a Leftie just as much I am a rightie zero.
@flyingpotatoe1299
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even realise they were transphobic. When it said ”what a woman is” I just thought ”good we need more allies”💀
@1svenfan966
2 жыл бұрын
B- b- b- but how can i know the gentiles of the people around me🥺🥺- this girl propably
@amandasunshine2
2 жыл бұрын
Why do you care so much about what's in someone else's pants unless you, yourself, are insecure about what's in your own pants
@supper-girl7405
Жыл бұрын
I was like 99% sure that post was a joke but if it’s not it’s really pathetic
@leuchtkaferchen1639
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a native speaker so please bare with me. Didn't she wrote she voted "against" the conservatives? In the second half of the comment it sounded like she vote FOR them. I'm confused.
@theduckyninja1086
2 жыл бұрын
Against was a poor choice in this case but in this context it means 'next to', like "the shelf is against the wall"
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