Ben: I don't like mathematicians Ben 30 minutes later: This is amazing! I need a mathematician!
@Ruminations09
Жыл бұрын
I love how Alejo was fighting tooth and nail to keep Malakai alive just so that he could choose a better character for them to be mad as.
@SerCapelli
Жыл бұрын
Hey just so you know alejo goes by they/them
@alejoblack368
Жыл бұрын
Ah... if only. I knew Malakai was the Cerenovus because of an unfortunate misunderstanding that Ben wasn't present for, so I really wanted to just let it be :D
@MalakaiSilverWolf
Жыл бұрын
And I would have picked something different that night if I survived, not sure what I had in mind before I received those messages but it was going to be something else X3
@Ruminations09
Жыл бұрын
@@SerCapelli The "he" was referring the Malakai, not Alejo.
@Ruminations09
Жыл бұрын
@@ladygeneveve3805 What exactly is "that" which is incorrect? I've just reread both of my comments in this thread, neither of which appear incorrect to me.
@q-tuber7034
Жыл бұрын
44:53 love the boasting match between Chiz and Aero about who would be better Cannibal food
@allgreatfictions
Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, hearing Aero brag about being covered in chicken salt was brilliant. Chicken salt is wonderful.
@johnlarkin7781
Жыл бұрын
I used to not like the marionette as it isn't as flashy as some of the other minions, but it's definitely growing on me.
@MarkChimes
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's that kind of character that seems weak at first on paper / in isolation if you're thinking mechanically "oh weakest minion. No ability and worse they don't even know their team" but played so different in practice because it's with people. They can read socially good. Plus they get a free bluff, and the Storyteller gets to pick what fake info to feed them. (Not to mention of course the strength of it just being on script so that evils can convince good neighbours they might be evil if they want)
@jean-baptistegrosselin7310
Жыл бұрын
Same for me.
@PROtoss987
24 күн бұрын
Until watching this I never considered that the ST can give them info that will help the evil team, even if it isn't true. I thought I'd need to quickly inform my marionette so that they can get their story in order, but that's not the case at all.
@DestinyShiva
Жыл бұрын
I fully respect Chiz's desire not to know. I read so differently when I know I'm evil to when I know I'm good, I never want to know... It's fun getting surprised at the end!
@yitzchokbraunfeld8333
Жыл бұрын
45:27 "Did I mention that I've been beautifully 'marionetted'?" Did Chiz really say that? Legend.
@moth.03
Жыл бұрын
chiz said "marinaded" as in the cooking technique but it would've been cool if it'd been "marionetted"
@yitzchokbraunfeld8333
Жыл бұрын
@@moth.03 ik what he said and meant. I just found the irony pretty funny. (no spoilers)
@ykl1277
Жыл бұрын
who doesn't want to be in the middle of a noble sandwich?
@vincenturquhart1370
Жыл бұрын
1:50:30 the good team had the solve right in this moment, I don't know if chiz relised they were the marionette and did this intentionally but bringing up malashan as the marionette ended up causing them to gloss over it.
@darbyl3872
Жыл бұрын
The chances were 1/24.44 (or 4.09%) that both of Chiz's Seam picks were in Duke's Noble pings and Chiz was not one of them =(3/11)(2/10)(9/12). If Chiz had been one of them, the chances would have been (2/11)(1/10)(3/12) = 1/220 (or 0.45%). One of these has to be the case, so added together = 1/22 (or 4.55%).
@Yaseenicus
Жыл бұрын
Ben JUST said he doesn't like mathmaticians, get out of here, nerd 😂
@SharienGaming
Жыл бұрын
actually those "chances" cant really be calculated, because alot of the events were not random ben actively chose the noble pings as well as pixies madness target for specific purposes the cerenovous pick could be considered random, because it was based on 0 available information the seamstress pick was likely heavily based on the claims of the day before, so not really random either
@darbyl3872
Жыл бұрын
@@SharienGaming Yeah, it's more of a baseline than a forecast.
@josephjoestar3631
10 ай бұрын
Well BEN 34:35 no mathematician would ever give you the info you request because you said mathematician is your least favorite character in all of BOTC
@johnloper
Жыл бұрын
SPOILER…. Marionette’s that don’t know are the best
@PROtoss987
24 күн бұрын
I had a game where I was Zombuul and my Marionette was so fast to enter private chats on day 2 so I only got to tell them day 3, which I panicked into after he nominated someone turned evil by bounty hunter. I was surprised when he said I'd told him at the perfect time when I thought I was late. I now understand what he meant.
@DyrianLightbringer
Жыл бұрын
There's a world cup of Clocktower? How did I not know about this?
@q-tuber7034
Жыл бұрын
Publicized and administered mainly on Twitch, I think. There was a little bit of publicity on YT. They didn’t respond to email submissions.
@nathanswanson1955
Жыл бұрын
comments for the algorithim also have not seen the full video yet but alr love the minions
@cheesiestmaster879
Жыл бұрын
Amne: On the First Night, You Learn "You have a setup ability". You have the Snake Charmers Ability. [All minions are Evil Snake Charmers, Most Good Players are Snake Charmers, Evil Non-Demon Players Receive Minion Info, Even if they are Townsfolk]
@karlovisttimes8271
Жыл бұрын
holy smokes what a string of coincidences
@Herrscher-of-Autism
Жыл бұрын
I think if i was a storyteller I'd love the fisherman because it'd sate the burning desire to tell people what to do
@LambertBehnke
Жыл бұрын
The world is moving so fast.
@jaegybomb
Жыл бұрын
I just heard about this game and this is the first one I've watched. Why did the demon kill his minion?
@ronansmith4897
Жыл бұрын
It was basically about selling worlds, I can't say for sure exactly what he was thinking, but it was likely due to fishermen and "seamstress" both asking to be fed to a cannibal. It would be logical for the demon, no matter who the demon was, to try and stop that, and so kill one of them. By killing his minion, it sold the world where Chiz is good, which makes the good team have a harder time finding the correct solve. Note at the end, no one thought Chiz was the marionette, all worlds discussed where Skillz was the demon involved Malashaan as marionette instead, which couldn't match with Savant "once per game" info.
@Hix108
Жыл бұрын
Ultimately, the only thing that matters for the evil team is that the demon survives to the final 2 living players. Chiz didn't have suspicion from the group as being a demon, so it is unlikely Chiz would have been voted out, and the Demon often has to try to engineer a situation where the group picks the wrong demon when it is down to 3 alive. I can only guess, but I think there was so much poisoned misinformation out there, Skilz was not in a particular rush to kill off the townsfolk with seemingly good abilities.
@jaegybomb
Жыл бұрын
@@Hix108 Wouldn't the fact that there were so many poisoned make killing off the few with good info even more valuable?
@Pirotecher7
Жыл бұрын
In a lot of games I've seen. The demon will keep the marionette alive to continue to use them to spread false information or just seem good. So Skillz may have also decided to kill their own minion to try to hide them being the demon. Because later in the game that sort of thinking of "why would my demon kill me as the marionette?" Starts to also play into who you accuse. And with them not knowing they're on the evil team, it helps socially that individual to be trustworthy.
@shauntilton1432
Жыл бұрын
Skillz for the win, Malakai with the timely decisive dead vote!
@MalakaiSilverWolf
Жыл бұрын
when those hands rose up I just had to as well X3
@noonyx33
Жыл бұрын
does anyone know which episode daddy ben is referring to when he talks about Simons amazing damsel play?
@MalakaiSilverWolf
Жыл бұрын
I do not believe it's on the KZitem side, it will be on a VOD with the same stream this game was ran
@noonyx33
Жыл бұрын
@@MalakaiSilverWolf oh thank you so much! Ill have to hurry over before it goes down haha
@amishman
4 ай бұрын
I'm confused why Ben said Aero & Rez were not of the same alignment. Was it due to the marionette or something?
@BloodontheClocktower
4 ай бұрын
It's been nearly two years since I ran this game, but at a quick glance it looks like you're referring to the Seamstress' ability. However, there is no Seamstress in the game, because that player is the Marionette, which means they have no ability and I can lie to them. - Ben
@Friedensbringer
Жыл бұрын
What would one need to do to play the game with these people?
@Hix108
Жыл бұрын
Still at the beginning of my watch-through, but I think that the poisoned pixie interaction that Ben gives on night one is only if the poison goes away before the madness target dies. If the pixie is not sober and healthy when the target dies, the pixie doesn't have a functioning ability to gain another ability.
@Quandry1
Жыл бұрын
They still technically get the ability. It just doesn't work right just like when the new role was poisoned. Not giving them the ability at all reveals the poison or drunkenness.
@Hix108
Жыл бұрын
@@Quandry1 Well, the ST is always allowed to pretend to give an ability to a poisoned pixie, regardless of who dies, and to give accurate or inaccurate info as deemed appropriate. But I disagree with calling that "getting the ability".
@Hix108
Жыл бұрын
A similar thing happens with the marionette this game. The marionette thinks they have used a once-per-game ability, but Ben clarifies that they don't actually have an ability, therefore it doesn't count towards the number of once-per-game abilities used (a fact that is relevant to some savant info).
@Quandry1
Жыл бұрын
@@Hix108 the marionette is different. It's effectively the evil team drunk thinking they are a good role. So it has no ability. The pixie has an ability. It is just not functioning correctly. This is a subtle but important difference people often miss.
@Hix108
Жыл бұрын
@@Quandry1 The poisoned pixie has its own (malfunctioning) ability, but when the madness target dies while the pixie is poisoned, the pixie _does not_ gain a second ability (not even a malfunctioning one). The ST can choose to simulate a second ability, but it's not actually an ability.
@Ellie-rx3jt
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't a poisoned Pixie *have* to receive an incorrect ability/person? Because it seems like town thought so too, and that moving the token onto the Noble kind of broke the Fisherman advice. Aero would have had the solve on day 2 if not for that change...
@bort9922
Жыл бұрын
The beauty of poisoning is that a poisoned anything doesn’t have to learn or not learn anything. It’s important leeway for an ST to have, as it allows the ST to balance the game. In this case, Malashaan not waking up would have 100% made them consider No Dashii worlds. If Aero did refuse to consider it, then maybe he’s just guilty of trying to meta the storyteller.
@WukongTheMonkeyKing
Жыл бұрын
IIRC, the only time false information is required is for Vortox.
@57thorns
Жыл бұрын
Took me a while to get 14:19 correct, but spoiler The outsider in question is the drunk. And the false clue is that the pixie or the mutant (only madness inducing good characters) is a demon bluff.
@kylelake5848
5 ай бұрын
For Day 1 savant info, I would give "Either there are at least 3 players who cannot currently claim their role accurately without consequence, or it is impossible for a player to be drunk or poisoned" There are 3 players who cannot accurately claim their role, a drunk, a marionette, and a pixie. All 3 roles that can cause drunkenness or poisoning are in play
@bacontheshoe
Ай бұрын
A pixie is completely free to claim their role. Equally, the drunk and marionette *can* claim their roles, just with uncertainty. I think that statement is very ambiguous/incorrect.
@olly5255
Жыл бұрын
Felt there wasn’t enough board integrity there which made it near impossible at various points for the team to figure out the noble issues.
@ass-master-deluxe
Жыл бұрын
what does the different colored borders around the name mean?
@BloodontheClocktower
Жыл бұрын
The borders signify what tier the players has backed the app with on Patreon. They're actually placeholders. We've currently got some cool artwork cosmetics being made for the app. - Ben
@ass-master-deluxe
Жыл бұрын
@@BloodontheClocktower cool man, love watching you play as a player on stream haha
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