Good repair here. I did a similar repair several years ago on my Bosch e bike battery.
@JoelKatz
11 ай бұрын
I have a battery Bosch Powerpack 400 from 2020-03, 17000 km distance. It holds the charge nicely but the motor starts to chop after 10km like it's not getting enough power and then it shuts off. I can start the engine a while later and it works again. The battery has done its job I GUESS? Almost four years with 125km per week...
@modelsfirst
4 ай бұрын
Would be great to see a video with replacement or conversion with LiFePO4 cells. These are hands down the best batteries because although they are slightly less energy dense they will save you a TON of money in the long run with a service life of 8 to 10 years a minimum of 2000 charge & discharge cycles while keeping 80% capacity vs Lithium Ion giving only 300 to 800 cycles meaning expensive replacement every 2 years. Ebike battery sellers don't make many Lifpo4 battery packs because they want you to keep buying batteries over & over every 2yrs instead of every 8 - 10 yrs or even longer if you limit charging to 80%.
@petercousins1645
2 жыл бұрын
How did you overcome 'anti tamper' software fitted in these batteries ?
@fayezmohammad745
2 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for the video very useful. Just wondering what did you fix in this battery! You used new cells and moved things to it. What was the problem and these cells last for very long time. I found most of batteries problems is the bms not cells unless it's water damaged. Thanks
@edisonramos4189
4 ай бұрын
muito obrigado por este video, me ajudou muito, sua ideia da fita de niquel em zig zag foi muito bom.
@abbersj2935
15 күн бұрын
Well done, fantastic job.
@andycapo9you
3 жыл бұрын
I just repaired 2 of these batteries. 1 had the pink samsung cells 2800mah. and the other had chinesse GA´s in it. Both batteries had just 1 group of cells completely dead. That .2mm nickel can be welded nicely with the Malectrics spot welder kit. It can even make a hole thru if you use a diesel car battery....
@jamesbentley1595
3 жыл бұрын
Can you fix mine?
@Valhallaaaa
11 ай бұрын
And did you use higher capacity asi exchange?
@milsiart4976
5 ай бұрын
Barley caps for plus of batteries is must if you don't want fire after vibrations.
@AlexNesssp
Жыл бұрын
You are the doctor, what job 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@briancatt8642
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, many thanks, I have bitten the bullet and bought a new battery pack, as I read that the BMS would lose its program when the voltage drops below a certain value. On opening the battery pack (400 type) I found the cells are not well at all…. I do not use the bike in wet conditions so the bms should be ok 🤞🏻 Your video now gives me hope I can resurrect the old one with new cells. Thanks again
@sooldt6591
2 жыл бұрын
Hey , nice job. Can you disconnect the BMS from the pack ? Will it not get in safety mode when there is no voltage on it ?
@szentmihalyiautodiagnosztika
7 ай бұрын
You may not disconnect the BMS from the pack, I did it once and ruined it
@nadsas1427
3 жыл бұрын
is there no problem to loose the configuration on the BMS if its out of power ? i heard anything about that.
@user-kb4vi7gm6e
11 ай бұрын
Good evening. please tell me, I rode a bike in the rain and ended up getting the battery wet. Now it works with an error: the LED strip is constantly blinking. There are no problems when riding when it is connected to the bike. but when I turn off the bike it turns on by itself. when the battery is not in use, the charge indicator blinks all compartments depending on the charge
@user-kb4vi7gm6e
11 ай бұрын
I tried to reboot the battery and pressed the power button for 10 seconds. Nothing changed
@DIYwithBatteries
3 жыл бұрын
You've got everything you need...! Me: finding for a screwdriver 🧐👌
@ugurh5213
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks from the Netherlands! We have a lot of Bosch powered ebikes here. I started repairing ebike batteries as a hobby. Did not get an hand on a Bosch battery yet. But on the internet I read that these basterds are bricking itself when you cutoff the power. BMS is then unrepairable. What I see here is that you just migrate the bms from one pack to the other without issues.
@johnnymcmanmon7691
3 жыл бұрын
Interested in this too. Also, @batterydoctor - how do you manage to get the cell holder apart? I find the friction of the original cells prevents me pulling them apart....
@andycapo9you
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnymcmanmon7691 tapping on the negative cell side on bot sides, little by little will make it free. Dont forget to remove the screws previously
@magy357
3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering that too.
@jonathanmaus7125
3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Thanks @TheBatteryDoctor for the great content, would be very interesting to know whether you had issue with Bosch's BMS getting bricked
@ewaldwolk2250
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmaus7125 They dont brick. Never heard of it.
@bob-ny6kn
10 ай бұрын
MEK (methylethylketone) will melt the plastic burrs, and a heat gun will make the rough plastic shine. Not too much of each.
@ulukai_555
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't think that the battery would work with shotgun shells. :P
@BH-cy9tb
3 жыл бұрын
Have a question. I have a trek rail 5 that came stock with a bosch powertube 500. The 625 is also supposed to fit my bike. So I guess the batteries are the same size? Does the powertube 500 just have dead space we’re extra cells go or are the cells on the 625 larger capacity? If the 500 has dead space can extra cells be added the make the 500 into a 625. Thanks.
@rhiantaylor3446
Жыл бұрын
Old thread but... If the bike can use 625 then the frame space must be longer and there is a spacer which extends the 500wh pack to fit 625wh length space. 500wh uses 10S4P but 625 is 10S5P so has to be organised differently. Therefore, you cannot simply add cells to a battery organised as 10S4P to get 10S5P.
@mrkarkasian
3 жыл бұрын
So where did you get the cell holders at the end? Thx
@rhiantaylor3446
Жыл бұрын
From a dead pack, as he explained. This involved dremelling off all the nickel that connects to each cell.
@rogers827
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Many thanks for the video. I have a Bosch battery as shown in the video & I am looking for some advice. According to the Bosch Diagnostic Software the Battery is deactivated with one light showing on the display & the Battery refusing to charge. My question is, if I replace the cell pack but use the original BMS, will the BMS still say it is deactivated or will it allow the Battery to work? Thanks in advance
@thediscoman2001
11 ай бұрын
if u replace the cells the batterie should work fine
@LoeKey56.
2 жыл бұрын
I have 5 of these packs and I've replaced the cells and every time the BMS battery indicator does not light up no output voltage? Does the BMS brick Once you remove the old battery
@LoeKey56.
2 жыл бұрын
Also I have no bosch charger only a bench power supply I'm manually charging the pack before installation 42V but I've tried 5 bms but will not turn on
@Batteridoktorn
2 жыл бұрын
You need to connect a bosch charger they are alive again, they are in sleep mode until you do.
@LoeKey56.
2 жыл бұрын
@@Batteridoktorn Thanks That makes sense too some extent. But why do some packs battery indicator work and some do not 🤔 even without a charger present
@louliveeverest
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm looking for the same spacer you used in this video. Do you have an STL file to share or have you bought them? Have a nice day
@nimakhorshidi2808
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks a lot for your informative video. Two of my battery led flash! It’s not getting charge! Do you know what the problem is? What should I do? Thank you
@eastcoastnrgz8484
4 ай бұрын
Hey Doc... What make of Solder do you think is the best? What do you use?
@hullebikerfishing
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always.
@lewiss66
2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Thanks for your video. Do you think this type of battery pack could work in parrallele with the new bosch smart system batteries?
@virkelie2
8 ай бұрын
It's been 2 years - did the repaired battery catch fire yet?
@hh28
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to fix a powerpack 500 that keeps notifying temperature error when trying to charge battery? It also doesn’t give electricity to the bike.
@Strange_Brew
2 жыл бұрын
The way you have the cell strips configured it will not balance well.. you should put two more strips on the cell groups.
@manuelmatos7199
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, i have power pack 400. Can i transform in to 500 ?
@crapper51
3 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to add batters to a Bosch 500 pack,,on to the top ,but so it still fits in the bottom of the case
@mb23061
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I replaced old cells in my powerpack 500 with new Samsung 3500 mAh. The accu is weaker then the 4yr old that I have on 2nd bike. All the cells are fine, voltage is good. Do you know what it can be??
@YPO6
2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 used Bosch Powerpack 400 batteries. Is it possible to find out how many times they have been fully charged?
@Simon-cb4bq
Жыл бұрын
Hej! Jag lyckades tappa mitt bosch powerpack 500 batteri i golvet från knähöjd så att batteriporten slog i och yttre plast delen lossnade från batteriporten! Kan man limma fast det igen eller hur ska jag göra ? Batteriet är bara strax över året gammalt
@texfromro
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job man. One question. If in the future new and better cells will become available, do you think the electronics of the battery will let us use the full capacity of the new battery? thx
@wool1701
2 жыл бұрын
I can probably answer that. So long as the voltage of each cell stays the same, higher capacity cell should work with existing BMS. The BMS may not accurately show % level in such a case.
@seitenryu6844
10 ай бұрын
So far it seems that the improvements will be in safer cell chemistry.
@marvinhensbergen1515
3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a speed ebike. I understand Brose motor has a more open way in using batteries than bosch...? I would like to have the option to buy my own LiFiPo-4 packs in the future, but it seems Bosch prevent DIY solutions by communicating with the battery pack. Would it be posible to hack a Bosch battery to create a connection for an external power pack? This way the communication part may still work, but actually using external power. It looks anti consumer to me, those 500W/h powerpacks are way to expensive, and you get allot more charge cycles out a LiFiPo-4 pack.. I know, because I used one for almost 10 years before it was finally done with it's capacity. They really last 3000+ cycles! And are cheaper than the Bosch packs.
@GermainSeguy
3 жыл бұрын
people said when you remove input from battery the bms loose eprom from can and do not work any more is it true
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i heard similar stories about Bosch. However that has NEVER happend to any of the Powerpack batteries we have worked with. I guess the eprom can be programmed different on their other battery lines like screwdriver batteries etc. Of where have you heard that? From what i know its just a rumor.
@justbreakingballs
3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t this way mean all the current has to pass through those single pieces of nickel strip on the series connections. It doesn’t look thick enough to me. The Bosch design will have that central nickel strip as the main conductor with the cells feeding into it and I can see that central run is substantial. Those zig zags look like they need doubling up to me.
@omargdottin
11 ай бұрын
Did you have any experience on BH emotions battery
@AnthonyLee-us3hr
10 ай бұрын
How many watt generator i need to charge a 48v battery and the charger i have says 54.6v ?
@pawelodz8050
3 жыл бұрын
And this is a good video. Thank You
@Simon-cb4bq
3 жыл бұрын
Can't you seal it with silicone when reassembling the battery? Or will that make it too hard to open it again if needed ?
@marthamryglod291
2 жыл бұрын
A trick is to wipe the sealing surfaces with a lubricant to decrease bonding with the silicone. I've done that in the past and it works well. Not for submersion but for rain.
@lovemadeinjapan
2 жыл бұрын
How is it possible that vanmoof cycles achieve 500wh with 30 cells instead of 40? Also one important step is missing: how do you get to 0:11, or how is the case opened?
@nottinghamforest2980
3 жыл бұрын
Best day , can fix ebike bosch classic battery BMS ?
@bpoelen
2 жыл бұрын
Did you already repair a Bosch 0275 007 532
@chiibin1
14 күн бұрын
It's not recommended to do it, battery is a dangerous thing. The repair battery doesn't pass any vibration, waterproof, charge/discharge protection function check. It will cause serious problems once any issue happens.
@wallgreeens420
Жыл бұрын
Would you use fish paper in a scenario like this?
@telefoniaunieurolauria
2 жыл бұрын
nice job man
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
so can you use a normal 36 volt 10 amps bms in these batteries as i dont see why not there is nothing speciaal about thjm, if not have you got a link to where i can buy a replacement
@Batteridoktorn
Жыл бұрын
Lol, bosch has the most advanced paring on the market. No other then Bosch batteries will work and sometimes they wont work either! Bosch=Apple=Opposite of DIY/right to Repair
@kvmods
2 жыл бұрын
what are the brand and type cells you use? i want to refirb it myself :)
@galeriehaldeohro7857
3 жыл бұрын
wo gibt es schaltplan f 0 275 007 514 bosch traveller die unterstuetzung setzt z 4ten Mal ohne ank aus, die ladungsanzeige bleibt, auch das fahrlicht ist weg. im Dunkeln risiko a strassen
@RahulSharma-cm6zc
2 жыл бұрын
How many kilometres running Bosch 500 watt battery after change battery
@TheKratospectre
3 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, les bms sont réparable ?
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
whats is the diffrance between to 500 and the 400 battery are they both the same size
@edewar6004
10 ай бұрын
Individual cell capacity of 400 is 2900mah, 500 is 3500mah per cell. Same number of cells in both batteries.
@LetsSmile4Ever
Жыл бұрын
The affiliate link is not working? :-)
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
how do you discharge the battery
@bennyhill4228
Жыл бұрын
I have a question, ...I own a Samebike Lo26 M nine that has only done 125 miles, but the battery will only charge to 74% what could be the problem ?
@TheBatteryDoctor
Жыл бұрын
90% chance unbalanced cells, 10% chance its a fauly chager.
@bennyhill4228
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor Thanks for the reply.
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
did u make the 3d printed part
@Schiefinger
11 ай бұрын
Welche Batterien sind das Type
@josteinopstad2691
3 жыл бұрын
I tried to find BMS and new case ,but cant find it anywhere
@4822-t5w
3 жыл бұрын
I used the old bosch nickel strips for repair. what size of nickel did you use? 0.15 or 2.0 mm or higher with zickzacking?
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
0,1mm*2
@Valhallaaaa
11 ай бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctorPlease powerpack 400 Can i use higher capacity batteries as powerpack 500 use? Samsung INR18650-35E 3400mAh - 8A
@mustafasuzgun8213
3 жыл бұрын
How can i do check every one cell whit metre i want to check every battery which one not working can show me pls
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
IS THE BOSCH 400 BMS SAME AS THE 500 ONE
@Batteridoktorn
Жыл бұрын
YES, same BMS, only different cell, same BMS om both carrier and frame battery.
@negaopiroca2766
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks. How did you source those plastic cell holders? Is it possible to buy those BMS'es from Bosh?
@DerekKerton
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video, where he mentioned 3D printing them twice?
@Valhallaaaa
11 ай бұрын
@@DerekKertonHe is asking about BMS board... Not battery holder that is printed...
@DerekKerton
11 ай бұрын
@@Valhallaaaa He also wrote "How did you source those plastic cell holders?"
@Valhallaaaa
11 ай бұрын
@@DerekKerton Oh yes... Anyway i dont understand why he 3D printed it. Yesterday i disassemble my battery and i will use original cell holder...
@Valhallaaaa
11 ай бұрын
@@DerekKerton Also nickel Strip he is making zigzag shape is already available as product. Its called W type/shape
@ouaffe
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have a Powerpack 500 with a faulty BMS (apparently as the LED stopped lighting). A friend can give me a 400Wh Powerpack to get the BMS. Is the 400Wh BMS compatible with the 500Wh one?
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there might be different version but they should all work the same, except the old ones with from the classic series with a different connector. They are different.
@ouaffe
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor Wahou! Thanks for the quick answer! Otherwise, where to find those damned Bosch BMSes? Any store selling some? Even used...
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
@@ouaffe www.liofit.com/produkt/bosch-bms/
@makeful1
3 жыл бұрын
Hello. So if the bms is in working condition it can be unplugged and put to new battery just like that? I allways tought that the bms should not be powered off that youll need a powersupply inbetween the switch from old battery to new. But seem like thats not the case? Only thing is that if i put new cells to a bosch powerpack i cannot increase the capacity becouse of the bms limits the capacity?
@JulioMigSantos
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor Can a 300Wh powerpack be upgraded? Can the cells be replaced to reach 500Wh?
@Schooges
3 жыл бұрын
Hey ar you able to build me a battery whit 21700 Zell for Bosch ebike whit about 20ah at 36v about 700-800wh or more
@borismatijevic8422
3 жыл бұрын
Hi there ,can you recommend or repair Bosch battery 500 pack ?
@borismatijevic8422
3 жыл бұрын
My one stop working for some reason
@siriosstar4789
5 ай бұрын
This was not a repair but a total rebuild . do you have a warranty for your work that equals bosch and how easy or difficult would it be to make a warranty claim if need be . also how much does this cost . When it comes to Lion batteries i will stick with the bosch and their warranty and their vast service network . just buy a new battery ,geesh
@kvmods
2 жыл бұрын
good job, you make it seem so easy. i can solder and spotweld. maybe i could revise my battery to when she is done. also a bosch 500 where did you get the cellholders? did you 3d printed that?
@Dayto_G
3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find good 18650 batteries in bulk?
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
We are actually testing some aliexpress sellers cells during the summer and will have some good ones soon at our affiliate page: thebatterydoctor.eu/affiliate-links/
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
so if you have a faulty bms for this battery where do you get it repaired or where do you get a replacement or can you chnage it for a 36volt 10 amp regular bms
@TheBatteryDoctor
Жыл бұрын
You need original Bosch BMS, a few companies in germany sells them used. We have about 30 BMS but no good way of testing them.
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor IV just rebuilt a secondhand battery i bough of ebay the batteries ar buggered but im not sure about the bms i dont know how to check it, iv designed a new battery holder iv made for printing thats fits fine in the 400 and 500 case now
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor so where do i get my hands on a replacement bms, iv now finished the 3d printed replacement cage for the batteries and it fits perfect in the case with no issues
@edoardok
Жыл бұрын
@@thediscoman2001 Are you willing to share the 3d print?
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
@@edoardok yes i can do that if u give us ur mail
@sysnapsemalaysia-pcrepairp4111
3 жыл бұрын
can i send my powerpack 500 to you for replace the cells ?
@borismatijevic8422
3 жыл бұрын
Can you repair my bosch 500 pack battery
@pleasehelphaitinow
2 жыл бұрын
How many cells are inside the 500?
@Thomas-tf4cm
2 жыл бұрын
40
@rasimbot
2 жыл бұрын
Can't find what max output power is
@rhiantaylor3446
Жыл бұрын
Bosch say max load on 500wh pack is 20 amps so a fully charged pack at 42v can deliver 840watts for a short while without damage or a depleted pack at 35v only 700watts.
@magy357
3 жыл бұрын
I got plenty these battery packs with faulty bms boards. And then, repair is impossible if bms is faulty. No replacement bms board available to purchase, I'm afraid.
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, same hear. Dont know if they can be reset but we plan to clean with ultrasonic cleaner and maby some will work again. Hopefully. Older bosch have been cracked in both china and germany and there is also an activator for gen 2 bosch batteries but for whole BMS we will have to wait i guess.
@lambrettabarnes7799
2 жыл бұрын
Hi bud ... I have 2 x 400 w bich battery s that need repairing and not sure in capable myself ... Are you in UK or do you know anyone in UK that can help pls .... I'm in Bradford, west Yorkshire
@TheBatteryDoctor
2 жыл бұрын
you can find local help here: thebatterydoctor.eu/battery-repair-services-in-europe/
@lambrettabarnes7799
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor thanks bud
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3 ай бұрын
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@Sonybravo666
2 жыл бұрын
👌👍
@crapper51
3 жыл бұрын
So it would make a 500 wh. In to a 625 wh for more range
@Jacksteelmachines
10 ай бұрын
shouldnt you just use silicone to seal it back up instead of the electrical tape dude? : d
@thomasmitchell9729
Жыл бұрын
The 500W in my 1 year old avanti bike is very dissapointing Bosch have oversold the range.
@r380
3 жыл бұрын
There's any place to get that battery holder?
@TheBatteryDoctor
3 жыл бұрын
We will design our own and also make case extensions for 5P and 6P making 720Wh batteries possible =) But that will take a while.
@r380
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor wonderful
@petrpilcik6755
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBatteryDoctor when you put 5p and 6p batteries you leave the same BMS? can I change the battery from 400Wh to 500Wh?
@skullteria
Жыл бұрын
a "supercomputer" :'D
@ACAGT
3 жыл бұрын
⚡⚡⚡
@yonathanluckychristian6160
2 жыл бұрын
Iam from jakarta, indonesia. Very difficult to find bosch dealer in here. I want buy additional battery powerpack 500. anyone in here can help me please? Thank you
@galeriehaldeohro7857
3 жыл бұрын
nicht das Teil v traveller look for traveller akku nicht das Teil v traveller look for traveller akku
@thediscoman2001
Жыл бұрын
I dont know how you mamange to damage the case iv donbe dozens of them and never damaged the cases, what a butcher
@Batteridoktorn
Жыл бұрын
Its almost impossible not to, can you please show a video on how you open the bosch cases?
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