I’m about 90% sure I’m going with Bowtech this year. I am very impressed with the tuning features.
@firstcontactoutdoors1105
7 ай бұрын
MFJJ is 100% right on this bow. I'm 28.5 and i love the draw cycle on this bow. There is a hump at the end when it's on performance but it absolutely rips. I actually shoot my Core SR better than my LIFT. I just chrono'd my SR at 28.5, 72#, 389g TAC arrow and I was getting 315fps.
@jons7e
9 ай бұрын
Bowtech is delivering every feature you can think of
@fredjohnson8203
9 ай бұрын
Ha ha more like they're delivering every feature Mathews can think of 😂😂😂 Btw, this is just a joke. Completely messing with ya lol
@hossfox30
9 ай бұрын
I just picked one of these core sr. Absolutely love it! I'm only 27.5" draw length. I shot both the matthews lift and this side by side, and the choice was obvious for me.
@BlackwaterBound
9 ай бұрын
Love the reviews but your vibration numbers are off. It's peaking on the draw when you hit the back wall.
@nilslandis1603
7 ай бұрын
I saw it on the third shot. The draw was 1123, the shot looked to be 9XX - you are observant, thanks for the heads up!
@michaelrea6764
9 ай бұрын
I just went and traded my Omnia in on the bow yesterday and absolutely love it. For my 28in draw it drew better than the Omnia did for me and I’m getting more speed in my setup than I did with my Omnia. Loved the honest review and I look forward to more from you. Thank you for taking the time in putting out this content.
@firstcontactoutdoors1105
7 ай бұрын
Same here bud. It's a shooter for sure at 28-ish draw!!
@michaelrea6764
7 ай бұрын
@@firstcontactoutdoors1105 Amen Brother.
@douglasscholl4681
9 ай бұрын
Without a doubt I get the most out of your reviews. Keep up the great work.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
9 ай бұрын
I really like that Josh is honest about his reviews. We know you love BowTech man, but appreciate a non-biased spec driven review.
@ArcheryAcolyte
9 ай бұрын
Love the new review format! Great info and review!!! Been a Mathews fan for a long time now, but these Bowtechs are getting my attention. I am doing my own work and they look so tunable!!!
@aaronroberts2705
9 ай бұрын
Actually laughed out loud at work when the bow went off right as you got it back on the vibration test.
@Patriot36
9 ай бұрын
Me too! I'm pretty sure that never hit full draw either. Watching in in slow mo, it look like it was halfway into the hump.
@mikefutrell4224
9 ай бұрын
At work. Slacker’s
@hunthealthy1018
9 ай бұрын
Watching you pull that back was making MY shoulder hurt. 😂 I’m not a speed bow guy, so not my style but I can see the appeal for the guys at 28”-29” draw but want to max their bow performance. Well done sir!
@ericpfeifer9173
9 ай бұрын
love all the reviews. You use real data not just how it feels to you.
@sheyanderson4371
9 ай бұрын
I personally love my SR350, it is a hammer for my setup, and this looks to be a worthy predecessor (except I wished it still had the big ass cams for aesthetics). I don't care for the core/bridgelock system, would've preferred picatinny and Bowtech just distanced themselves even more in terms of tuneability. Their tunability and customer service is why I have stuck with them the last two bows and will likely continue to do so in the future. Best reviews on KZitem, much appreciated and keep it up.
@michaeldankert1962
8 ай бұрын
I went and shot the new Bowtech lineup last week and really liked the SS. I agree that the SR is harsh at 30 inches (I am a 30" draw). Overall I think the 24 line is packed with great bows, even though I still feel the Experience is still one of Bowtech's best bows of all time. Nice honest review, thanks for taking the time to do these reviews.
@dwayneallen3539
9 ай бұрын
MFJJ you are my new bow review guy for new bows.think you cover about all we need to know.
@scottdavis2133
9 ай бұрын
As someone who does their own bow work, I think the SS will be my new bow next spring. Can't beat being able to tune from the cams with an Allen wrench.
@houghtonic1975
9 ай бұрын
I like the tests you have. The specs based score is nice. I like the fact you give some other feedback about the give and take when it comes to the different style of bow...like this "speed refined" bow vs the "super smooth" bow and then the draw length and how that will change the feel of the draw cycle, changing to smooth side, etc. Please keep it up.
@travisalderete5386
9 ай бұрын
Shot this one and the other new releases. Hands down in comfort this pulled better for me at 29.5 across all three platforms. Very smooth and consistent. I shot the ss its cool for a shorter ATA but it pulled the same if not a little worse at my draw length. I wanted to like the carbon but it was just not what I expected not impressed. I will say on performance that SR was rough, but maybe tunable to make it a little less shoulder popping. Comfort was a blast and super easy and consistent draw over and over. Solid reviews as usual can’t wait for what comes next this year!
@douglasbartlett9142
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the info, I am dying to try this and the CORE SS. An easy to tune bow so I can really start to play in my new retirement addiction.
@brianduffy3213
9 ай бұрын
if I had to pick right now between Core SR, SS or Ethos the Ethos wins. waiting to see what Mathews and Hoyt does now.
@chirohunter23
9 ай бұрын
Love the new scoring system. Gives hard numbers to compare!
@HuckFTW
9 ай бұрын
The limb lock should be released before adjusting the limb bolts, right? Maybe it doesn’t matter all that much, but loosening the limb bolts and then letting the limbs “pop” out when the lock is released just doesn’t seem right…
@waynestevenson9613
9 ай бұрын
Love ❤️ this bow!
@markkobza8129
9 ай бұрын
So the sr would be a better choice for a short, 27.5 draw, over the ss. I'm just looking to get the most efficient bow with a short draw. The Kairos is interesting also.
@BowDisciples
9 ай бұрын
She's a heater 🔥
@johnnewcomb5162
9 ай бұрын
Might be a new purchase for me as well, I have 3 SR6 Bow's, I am liking this one though.
@joshuawooledge6945
2 ай бұрын
Forget the curve ball Ricky, give'em the heater.
@davidsummerall6971
9 ай бұрын
I think you spot on with the bow.
@vfonte218
9 ай бұрын
Love the bow reviews!
@darrind8697
9 ай бұрын
Great job . Love your reviews .
@aaronroberts2705
9 ай бұрын
Sounds like someone needs to make a attachment for the sight bar to make it a pic mount. That wouldn't be hard to do.
@traviswohner7356
21 күн бұрын
i been shooting a bowtech fuel since 2012 and it officially on its last season. So i been going back and forth with what to go with another bowtech or a bear. I have been able to the few bear bows. Since i have seen these review on the SS and the SR now i need to go shot these to make up my mind. Now lets see a review on the HONOR Bow.
@SheepdogConservation
9 ай бұрын
I know you said that blackgold is likely to be the only sight with the integrated core mount available.. but are we still able to mount any normal sight to the side of the riser on these bows?
@anthonygraves5173
9 ай бұрын
Do you have a separate video on what the vibration gauge actually does or what the numbers mean?
@Patriot36
9 ай бұрын
Dude, I've never seen you work so hard during the shooting portion of a bow review. I'm only a 28" draw so I'm guessing this would be a slightly different animal. I say slightly because that hump is still going to be there... but will it be 10% better, 15% better, or something else? I might drop by the shop and shoot one today and leave my quick impression from a shorter shooter's perspective.
@Patriot36
9 ай бұрын
Okay, I shot the Core SS today. The big hump at the end of the stroke is definitely significant even at 28" draw. So yes, I would imagine it could be worse at its 30" max adjustment but it's still quite substantial at 28" as well. It's just the nature of the performance module when it's flipped. It did pick up 10fps though, which was surprising, as I thought it would be less. We saw 296fps with 355gr arrow on comfort and 306fps on performance... 28" draw.
@HuckFTW
9 ай бұрын
@@Patriot36what draw weight did you shoot?
@Patriot36
Ай бұрын
@@HuckFTW 70lbs
@marcsimpson3
6 ай бұрын
Grateful for your reviews..I'd like to see you shoot them at distances personally
@Angel.Custodio
9 ай бұрын
I would love to know what you thought about the draw cucler difference between the SR and the new Mathews 33, speeds seem the same.
@stanlong-rangepensionerman3363
9 ай бұрын
Hi I have been waiting for this and the rest of the upcoming reviews next year a new bow or two for me keep up your great work my Bowtech Guardian from 2007 I’d still kicking but But But But I still need that string level we started them time got in the way 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺please
@deanbrantley
9 ай бұрын
For kicks and giggles do the vibration test with a heavy arrow vs light?
@HighRoad317
6 ай бұрын
That’s a finely tuned athletic machine!!!
@sarjeant503
9 ай бұрын
Really excited to put some arrows through this one soon!
@328am
9 ай бұрын
Is there any truth to Bowtech bows being "string eaters?" I'm on the fence about Bowtech, I want the SS34 but I've seen a lot of these string eater comments around...
@matthewvandevalk3008
7 күн бұрын
Ditto
@328am
7 күн бұрын
@@matthewvandevalk3008 Just an update... I did get the ss34 and put new vapor trail strings on it. I have had about 7 months and have sent well over 1000 arrows down range... At this point, there's zero concerns.
@Vaulterboy05
9 ай бұрын
What are the blue stops you have put on to replace the stock black rubber ones? I saw someone at a shoot have those, and they look better than the stock black ones! Love the videos!!
@LANCEBARNES13
9 ай бұрын
Well done review!!!! Thank you!!! 😊
@b_rad556
9 ай бұрын
This bow is sweet I’m really thinking about bow tech for 2024 I’m usually a Mathews guy
@petebeck6696
9 ай бұрын
I was really praying that Mathews had something a bit better than a lightened up phase 4 not much has really changed. If they came out with a 34 or even a 35 lift or a better way to shim the cams. Now you need new fingers for the press and new switch weight mods I may have considered it. But bowtech and all the adjustability it offers. If I'm gonna get a 33 ata I'm going with the core sr. Won't be long before other sights offer the core lock system.
@stick__shooter
9 ай бұрын
No more flip disc? So. Far not seeing enough to give up my SR6. I'd love to see you test a Athens Elevate.
@douglasvaughn9530
9 ай бұрын
Yes, it has flip disc.
@HighRoad317
7 ай бұрын
Great content, that’s a fine Bow
@lillajonte78
9 ай бұрын
On the vibration test you got 9,43 on the first shot. But you got 9,43 when you draw the bow. Time 8:32.
@taylormaseda8451
4 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@huntsimple9527
9 ай бұрын
The draw length stopping at 30 inches on this one is a bummer.
@wingman327
9 ай бұрын
How much does a short reflex compensate for a short brace hight for stability and accuracy?
@JamesBond-oc4gm
9 ай бұрын
A very good question that I would also like to know the answer
@billmcstay194
9 ай бұрын
I said if they put that timelock on the hunting bows... I'm sold.
@EvanRoshad
9 ай бұрын
Is there gonna be a Core 80? 🤔
@lifeoffthefarm791
9 ай бұрын
Looks like a good option for a bow for TAC
@royleerobinson5
9 ай бұрын
I picked up a revolt xl I’m 31&1/2 draw and that bow is amazing I can’t think of anything else I could want except the time lock. With that being said I’m not a fan of proprietary technology’s that corner a consumer into a system of proprietary products for the bow like Mathew’s we are seeing now what they (Mathew’s) is really doing and it’s raising prices and having accessories that are outrageous in price. I hope $2k doesn’t become the new norm because that’s not fun
@Trihope
8 ай бұрын
I keep hearing about the bow giveaways coming soon, did I miss them?
@jgsnipe1
7 ай бұрын
So because they have the ability to go from comfort to performance, will the SS in “performance” match the SR in comfort mode?
@daltonbbf756
9 ай бұрын
The vibration jumped when you hit the back wall not from the bow actually firing. Those numbers are just how hard you hit the back wall. For the first and third shot.
@harrisonharding
9 ай бұрын
An intro so nice you did it twice
@l.i.archer5379
9 ай бұрын
I wonder if those cams would fit on the Solution SS bow.
@ChopperPilot136
9 ай бұрын
You sure vibration measurements aren’t peaking on hitting the back wall?
@raymondjohnson6496
24 күн бұрын
Have you seen the bowTech honor bow yet is it better than the Matthews are Hoyt
@setharter
9 ай бұрын
Whoops, that release is getting hot 😅
@davidboyes5548
9 ай бұрын
I was really wanting a Revolt X with all the new features. something with a brace longer than 6”. Should I just get an SS34 and live without Timelock and Griplock. Don’t really care about the centershot feature
@josephr1198
9 ай бұрын
Do you think the brace height will make it less accurate for a moderate shooter? Vs the shorter Core bow?
@neverpastnever
9 ай бұрын
Awesome videos. Has it been verified that vibration meter isn't getting false readings from the back wall? It looks like it hit as high as 900 on the back wall. Could be wrong just wondering if starting the meter after back wall would yield different results. Either way the new testing format is awesome, especially the 3 different arrow speeds. 🔥 🤟
@Patriot36
9 ай бұрын
I'm guessing it ignores any vibrations that aren't of a certain amplitude our outside of an actual shot event and/or it's only measuring the peak vibration event within a very brief window. That's how those things typically work. I've played with them before but not the same brand.
@neverpastnever
9 ай бұрын
@@Patriot36 Gotcha, makes sense...it's gotta be the peak until he stops it but there is a significant vibration to the meter when hitting the back wall. It would be nice to eliminate that by starting it after full draw, or at least test if there is a difference.
@chadcharbonneau2154
9 ай бұрын
Gonna count the one that bumped off before full draw? Lol
@seniorvendetta96
9 ай бұрын
Can you revisit (re-review) bowtech solution please, it was a very fast bow when it launched
@rickhood2580
9 ай бұрын
I would love it if you go back to at least testing the feel of the bowtechs in both comfort and speed. Most people are going to leave it in comfort such as myself.
@Kmarkt1989
9 ай бұрын
Are you going to review the Commander?
@sinepari9160
2 ай бұрын
Even the master can get hot on the trigger, I see. it's not easy to shoot a compound at those weights that much.
@JS-ji5bl
9 ай бұрын
Great review bro...
@koltenhermansen-di3jb
9 ай бұрын
When are you going to review a PSE Shootdown pro?
@sticks7971
8 ай бұрын
did i miss riser length
@parkerlipetzky
9 ай бұрын
I like a hard cam like that.
@kwhite19
9 ай бұрын
whats the let off on them
@dans6443
9 ай бұрын
Your vibration meter method is clearly not working correctly. Both the 9.43 and 11.23 numbers were hit while you drew the bow. You need to have someone reset it after you've drawn the bow, especially with these bows that have a big hump to get over. Otherwise thanks for your great reviews!
@tonyviers-de9qi
9 ай бұрын
Ss34 versus core sr( comfort )????
@davidwickersham135
9 ай бұрын
Does the new bowtech still have the comfort and performance settings on the cam
@drewolm
9 ай бұрын
After listening to him I was wondering the same thing.
@crankbaitmaster9000
9 ай бұрын
It does
@anthonyharryman6218
9 ай бұрын
That cycle looks rough
@brucehumphries6889
9 ай бұрын
The deep breaths and big sighs tell me all I need to know about this bow…
@joshdennis8841
6 күн бұрын
Did you listen to what he said about the draw length being maxed out though???? I shot this bow with a 26 inch draw length at a shop and was so confused as to how and why it was as fast as it was. The draw didn’t feel rough at all
@ryansmith9030
9 ай бұрын
I always wonder how my bowtech prodigy stacks up against these new bows
@prestondotson7804
5 ай бұрын
Release failure?
@Mountainmanmark
9 ай бұрын
Very low reflex relative to the brace height. Most "speed" bows have 2" or more reflex. That should have very good forgiveness relative to the speed.
@davefabian2942
9 ай бұрын
Is the mod set on performance on the SR ?
@douglasvaughn9530
9 ай бұрын
Yes
@gratefuldude82
9 ай бұрын
Bowtech is the only one offering a military discount
@bradmoulton138
6 ай бұрын
Obsession.....???
@bossman9891
8 ай бұрын
Someone else commented already but your vibration numbers are way off! Your going off of the draw stop vibration.
@simonaudet1107
9 ай бұрын
Too bad you have to put these bow in performance to have same speeds as competitors do. I have a Carbon One and in comfort mode it’s the same speed as my V3x 33 at 65 pounds… in performance it matches speed of my Mathews at 70#, but with a very worse draw cycle 🤷🏻♂️
@Johnbobon
9 ай бұрын
Unless Bowtech already has other sight manufacturers onboard with their special rail design, it's a really stupid decision to incorporate.
@thomasstanworth
9 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell MFJJ that 1/4” of DL is not 3-4 fps, just as 1/2” isn’t 8 fps. He’s miles off!
@toddlymburner5783
9 ай бұрын
Umm no! I’m a 26 inch draw and Bowtechs in performance still gave that hump at the back of the draw cycle. Let’s be honest here!!
@johnsmith1812
9 ай бұрын
Fire your editor 😂😂
@huntsimple9527
9 ай бұрын
Super sad picatinny is not going to become the standard sight system. Bowtech will lose a lot of sales to guys who already have a $500 Spot Hogg or HHA setup that is picatinny.
@davemartin660
9 ай бұрын
They won't lose much. Just like with Matthews co.panies start make adapters for the sights so I don't see it big a big deal.
@huntsimple9527
9 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see how much the other sight manufacturers chase Bowtech. It makes sense they all chased Mathews bridgelock, as Mathew outsells Bowtech exponentially. Not sure if Spot Hogg, HHA, Axcel, etc will rush to make this fit. @@davemartin660
@markkobza8129
9 ай бұрын
Not saying anything against how you test things but why is it that there is such a difference between what the company puts on for its speed to what you get in a real world situation with the same weight arrow and the same draw length and same poundage why is that such a hard thing to do what are they doing differently that gives them such a high number that they publish That's just the most confusing thing to me ever whereas it doesn't really matter because nobody's going to be really shooting at that speed but I know it's like a selling point help me to understand
@joshflanery1352
9 ай бұрын
Standards they have and deviations with equipment they can push and be in standard as well as things on strings, like peep, d loop, dampeners are all removed. As well as speed nocks and even some use less string count for testing because they are allowed to per spec. A lot that goes into it but most manufacturers are over rated for their ibo speed
@cjr4497
9 ай бұрын
The companies are giving IBO Max speeds with nothing on the string. It irritates the heck out of my that MJFF keeps saying IBO and doesn't explain anything. IBO speed is 80# +/- 2# draw weight, 5 grains per pound arrow weight, and no max draw length! Using IBO a company cant test a the speed of a bow with an 82# draw, 33" draw length, and 400 grain arrow then market that speed. ATA arrow speed is what MFJJ is doing with his 350 grain arrow speed test. ATA is 30"+1/4" draw, 70# +/- 0.2#, 5 gr/# arrow. This is why there is a speed discrepancy. If all the bow companies were required to us ATA then this confusion wouldn't exist.
@petebeck6696
9 ай бұрын
It's why they claim speeds up too. When they post Ibo. Ata is more common folk numbers. But I was praying for a 34 ata with all the extras. But got slapped with another 33. The ss34 was a big hit last year. And they could have done a Mathews thing. Rebranded the bow with a different name and added the extra tech onto it.
@mikealtman2838
9 ай бұрын
A 344 bow that draws like that?! 🤣🤣🔥🗑️
@DBlakeney29
9 ай бұрын
I smell patent infringements…
@suzgabverdugo933
9 ай бұрын
😂funny guy, I shoot five different bows throughout the year and now that it bow drop season it’s going to probably be 6-7 different bows 😂😂😂
@cjr4497
9 ай бұрын
Stop calling ATA speed IBO, and I will be happy. You are testing the ATA speed of these bows by backing them down to shoot a 350 grain arrow. Your audience deserves to know that. ATA Speed is 30" +1/4"draw, 70# +/- 0.2 , and 5 gr/# arrow. IBO is quite different hence the speed disparity we normally see. IBO speed is 80# +/- 2# draw weight, 5 grains per pound arrow weight, and no max draw length!
@connor_bohnts
9 ай бұрын
chill bro you know what he means when he says IBO. it’s not that deep dawg
@JamesBond-oc4gm
9 ай бұрын
80 or 70, it will shoot the same speed with the proper weight arrow. So why does it matter?
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