I play RW more than most. Mistake #1 trying to combat U, G, or B decks on the same plane on which they are fighting, namely card draw and ramp. You will not reliably be able to out ramp or card draw those decks. The solution is to fight those decks on your terms. The most efficient way to do this is land destruction, Armageddon, Ravages of War, Cataclysm and Decree of Annilhilation. All you need to do is keep a reasonable threat on the board while they are trying to ramp and draw, blow the lands, and they wont have anything while you do.
@oscarmunoz2315
5 жыл бұрын
jacob blackman True, but if your meta do not involve combat damage the games would probably be lame
@stefanoaserrano
7 жыл бұрын
In your draw step of the podcast you should pick a random card from a presorted list of yours and talk about the importance of that card in EDH
@BringerOfBloood
7 жыл бұрын
Vedalken Orrery every time? ;-)
@TheMaddestHatter234
6 жыл бұрын
like north 100's the best card you aren't playing?
@commandcast
7 жыл бұрын
One awesome combo that we didn't mention on the show is Mistveil Plains (courtesy of Josh Kim). Combined with Sunforger, you can replay a card like Chaos Warp over and over again! Costs a bit of mana, but if that isn't recursion in RW, then I don't know what is ;)
@Sorceress966
7 жыл бұрын
Land Tax, ramp in white ;-)
@vidarthorsby2052
7 жыл бұрын
Sun forger can find tithe that find mistveil plains
@SpartanLord99
7 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing to do in Boros is use Sunforger to get reverberate to copy my green opponent's Boundless realms.
@lostsoul9987
7 жыл бұрын
The Command Zone Do Mono blue Aggro/Control/Ramp/Cantrip Meloku
@Celith2
7 жыл бұрын
You guys should of also talked about Scroll rack with land tax. Both are tutorable in white and probably is one of the best draw card engines you can get in boros.
@fancyramen5868
7 жыл бұрын
The way I've found success with Boros is running value equipment. Infiltration Lens, Mask of Memory, Sword of the Animist, Explorer's Scope, etc. really benefit this deck. Aggro is the name of the Boros game so might as well embrace it
@Isheian
4 жыл бұрын
Explorerers scope I feel doesn’t get enough credit. It’s either a free scry or a free land. And it’s cheap! Throw it on your solemn simulacrum. They block you draw a card. Perfect
@Wargablarg
7 жыл бұрын
48:48 "For Boros, it's more about the piloting than other decks" [slooooow pan over to Depala]
@engiebenjie
7 жыл бұрын
Boros is my favorite color combination! So glad you guys covered this :)
@shogun452
7 жыл бұрын
I ran a very fun and fairly powerful boros enchantment deck with Anax and Cymede that had a good amount of card draw via combos with stuff like Conviction and Kor Spiritdancer. With Sram recently printed, the deck got a bit more consistency, and is a sweet way to be aggressive without worrying about draw.
@brandonr.2807
7 жыл бұрын
So how did you guys cross paths? I am sure it has been mentioned in the past, but it would make for a cool segment in an episode.
@commandcast
7 жыл бұрын
We talk about our history in the city and how we met in depth on our Creative Process episode: kzitem.info/news/bejne/xYhjr4Geql-Xaoo
@nik700
6 жыл бұрын
That episode is so underrated
@TastySnackies
7 жыл бұрын
How to break Boros: Step One- Add blue cards, make it a Jeskai build Step Two- Remove all the red and white cards Step Three- Add some green cards Step Four- Crush hopes and dreams with your broken Boros deck
@joshleekwai8895
7 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute - this is how I build Boros decks too!
@TastySnackies
7 жыл бұрын
Josh Lee Kwai Sounds like we share the same taste in Boros deckbuilding!
@JoeGrzzly
7 жыл бұрын
Why are you running all these Mountains and Plains in your UG Boros deck?
@TastySnackies
7 жыл бұрын
Joe Grzzly It works, trust me.
@kryttercakes
7 жыл бұрын
yknow, I wanna see if b I can make a u/g deck with mountains and plains
@SFTortoise
7 жыл бұрын
cards like rogue's gloves and mask of memory as well as other artifacts substitute for draw and ramp in Boros.
@IQuarent
7 жыл бұрын
Walking Atlas too!
@lukasstone5707
7 жыл бұрын
Guys! Fork effects! You have a ramp spell? I HAVE A RAMP SPELL! You have a counterspell? I HAVE A COUNTER SPELL!
@CommanderReplay
7 жыл бұрын
Your points about being diligent about who you attack early is very spot on. Threat assessment is critical in Boros. Targeting the unfair deck first is key, they are often blue. Also high priority is the player with a ton of removal.
@slowlesaca48
3 жыл бұрын
"graveyard recursion is surprisingly strong in boros" this aged like fine wine. I think wotc watched this video while designing lorehold
@ivepesusic8792
7 жыл бұрын
you dont need to break boros, boros will break you
@lunao17
7 жыл бұрын
R/W also has some great miracle cards. Entreat the Angels and Bonfire of the Damned
@ferdithetank7535
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Terminus and Reforge the Soul as well.
@silverfangmoonhunter
7 жыл бұрын
lunao17 I call my deck, "Counterbalance 2: Sensei's Diving Top Boogaloo"
@christopherstoeffel4811
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sort of catching yourself after name-dropping a card and then going back to explain it a little (happened with Vedalken Orrery and something else a bit later in the episode and with I think Kor Cartographer earlier on). It's really, really helpful!! Sometimes I listen while driving to work and I remember one episode I had no clue what you guys were talking about--I know you were talking about Rishkar and while i totally know the card, his effect was on the tip of my mind the entire episode but I couldn't quite grasp it. It's super helpful when you give a lil description (even like, oh Rishkar is a creature that deals with +1/+1 counters and ramp kinda thing) to jog our memories.
@shadowstalker321
7 жыл бұрын
how to break boros Step 1 - Play Mardu
@erubin100
5 жыл бұрын
Alternate Step 1: Play Jeskai.
@nicholasschonviesner2882
5 жыл бұрын
I agree Mardu does the job.
@mikelong2756
5 жыл бұрын
Yes lmao. I have 2 edh decks. Mardu and Jeskai
@dorianpaquette6338
5 жыл бұрын
I break Boros by playing Sultai
@audreymcgovern1345
4 жыл бұрын
If I could help Boros I would make a 3 of any mana 1 red 1white for a 3/3 haste the effect would be whenever you attack with a creature with 5 power more draw that many cards
@allanmenzies8668
7 жыл бұрын
land destruction is totally fine. blowing up cabal coffers, maze of its, and the green weenie one I can't remember is just good to have, and Armageddon after early aggression is a great and fair win con. everyone has to counter tooth and nail, craterhoof, or cyclonic rift or they lose fair and sqaure. do the same thing with Armageddon and it's bad form.
@allanmenzies8668
7 жыл бұрын
I realize Armageddon is a awful panic button, but it's can be one of the most fun win cons because you need to establish a dominant presence to make it work, tooth and nail on the other hand takes almost no work and wins just as easily.
@warwerewolf777
7 жыл бұрын
Green creature land is called "Gaea's Cradle" fucking $300-700 card lol
@XXXXStormbringerXXXX
7 жыл бұрын
Armageddon destroys your own lands too. A 7 mana Cyclonic rift does not destroy lands but bounces everything else. I can not see how armageddon is worse? Armageddon is a Sorcery but Cyclonic Rift is instant! I do not understand how a card that hurts you as much as anybody else but the possibility to play it just in time can be accepted but Armageddon is not? Sunder is instant too but that also forces you to pick upp yoyr lands! Not just anybody else! Winter Orb affects you as much as anybody else! The same goes for Rising Waters and Dust Drinker. Why are those cards not really accepted? Spot removal for lands in a Commander Deck is tricky. Stripmine and Wasteland (if you can afford it) is cooler to leave out for bounce och strangeling affects if you ask me.
@egyptcraze
7 жыл бұрын
Allan Menzies the issue is armageddon 'just becaise'. if its an actual, literal part of your win-con (ex: narset, kaalia) and you're playing it to ensure that win, then fine. but playing it as a board reset (such as the admittedly cavalier way other wraths are used in this format) then that's whats truly bad form. playing MLD is fine, but then dont take 20 turns to win after it
@silverfangmoonhunter
7 жыл бұрын
Allan Menzies Craterhoof and Tooth and Nail are usually cards that end the game as soon as they're played. Cyclonic Rift if the answer to the problem of everyone else having huge established boards. Taking care of a problem land or too and blowing up all the lands on the table are in no way the same thing. Targeted land destruction is fine and is a good thing to have, playing a mass land destruction spell and dragging the game out for three more hours if you didn't just win that turn is not.
@Jose-wq4zr
5 жыл бұрын
Expectation: boros can be viable Reality: entire video is just explaining why boros isnt viable
@notter636
7 жыл бұрын
about two weeks ago I put up a decklist for depala. the deck is based around hatebears and early aggression, but with mass amounts of recursion. This video really helped me get soms new ideas. Keep on making this great show
@CommanderReplay
7 жыл бұрын
Gift of Estates and Tithe are amazing at finding lands, and of course Land Tax. A lesser known card Ive been experimenting with is Oath of Lieges.
@ninjafished
7 жыл бұрын
oath of lieges = friendliest card in all over multiplayer magic
@CommanderReplay
7 жыл бұрын
Its awesome if you are behind.
@ivepesusic8792
7 жыл бұрын
if you are boros and there is at least 1 green player then oath of lieges would help you...and you can make some firends :)
@emdub9679
7 жыл бұрын
you know what? I'm going to make a boros deck. And it'll be great.
@free-mtg-stuff406
7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Meesh Make boros great again lol
@Lonehawk2k4
7 жыл бұрын
two month player here Ive only used a boros deck and its been a fun experience while i learn cause i can see how everyone plays and goes against each other while i quietly build my board and swing for everything when i can lol
@erubin100
5 жыл бұрын
with black jack...and hookers!
@kriscroft8788
4 жыл бұрын
Ooooooooooooooooooo
@14Blackspirit
3 жыл бұрын
and ... did you? How is it going? XD
@sirknightdude2587
7 жыл бұрын
Why is there no section on white recursion? Sun Titan, Reveillark, Karmic Guide? And why would you mention Pyroblast when there's Reverberate, Wild Ricochet, Reiterate, and Fork? Not only can these copy counter spells and counter them, they can copy anything, even ramp! Ramp is still never as big of a problem as card draw is. You're going to have to rely heavily on red for those wheels, and don't forget Chandra, Flamecaller, the wheel and +1 extra card just for me.
@IQuarent
7 жыл бұрын
I run and keep reverberate in opening hand all the time, for exactly this reason; I copy Demonic Tutors and Cultivates regularly with this method. Copy spells, I feel, are highly underrated. Copy Banefire(or any game ending X spell, because yours resolves first and once they die the spell is exiled), copy Boundless Realms, copy Living Death, Rise of the Dark Realms, Debt to the Deathless, Insurrection, Praetors Council, Diabolic Revelation for x=5, Cryptic Command... The possibilities go on.
@xmulligans1426
7 жыл бұрын
I actually use a Boros Deck for EDH using DePala/Vehicles and it has been quite successful
@slymaster9
7 жыл бұрын
Dang right Depala is great! Am so happy with her myself. Finally Dwarves in MTG. Dwarven Recruiter, Dwarven Bloodboiler, Scroll Rack to synergize with Depala herself. And the new Gideon, Marial Paragon's first ability is hilarious in this deck.
@Ravarshi
7 жыл бұрын
the deck gideon too, crew your vehicles, Gideon +1 untap your board and give them +!/+!
@slymaster9
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's quite funny when you pull it off. And if you'd ever get to the ult, it could be a finisher (if you don't just prefer the +2)
@PaulGaither
7 жыл бұрын
I am working on Depala now as well. I love the flavor.
@mr_godofredo2298
7 жыл бұрын
i normally don't play commander, but this not only help commander players but casual player to get better in deck building. thank you guys keep the great work.
@jellysandjamz250
2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see this series redone now that it’s been a few years
@GuardianAngelEatos
7 жыл бұрын
Yes! I had a feeling when you said that it was kind of outside the world of Magic that it might have been MTG Puzzle Quest! Dudes It's awesome that you started to play MTG Puzzle Quest! I love Puzzle Quest! That is one of the two games that i have on my phone. I always get excited whenever I see or hear MTG Puzzle Quest come up!
@ehallam08
7 жыл бұрын
I have a Depala paper deck I sometimes play with. It started off as a dwarf/vehicle deck then through playing and tuning towards my meta, it quickly became a r/w vehicle deck with value creatures for crewing. I did keep a few dwarves in, won't go through them all but Depala is an extremely important part getting this deck rolling. The advantages that she brings to the color combination is great! My friends ended up naming it aptly: r/w junkyard Also, throne of the god pharaoh, does WORK in this deck.
@ssjAnnaPaquin
7 жыл бұрын
I feel like land destruction is really underrated as one of Boros strengths. Boros running out of cards when other decks get up to speed isn't an issue if other decks never get up to speed.
@nathanmarcano3171
7 жыл бұрын
I'm running a Tajic, Blade of the Legion Voltron deck that is all about killing lands. I only bring it out when the "I'm going to win, because I spent X dollar amount on the deck."shows up.
@jacobyspurnger8488
7 жыл бұрын
dinosaurzez ajani goldmaine. that is all.
@bytorgaming3796
7 жыл бұрын
My first commander deck was Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas and I found that one of the best ways to play is to use evasive techniques. I enjoyed beating a mono-blue deck with a buffed Jareth, Leonine Titan with protection from Blue, or Unquestioned Authority (Which also offers card draw :D) My Kalemne deck has since evolved to an Aurelia build, but I still maintain a high level of evasive techniques to over come my opponents. Love the show guys. Thanks for the insight into Boros!
@Lonehawk2k4
7 жыл бұрын
Hey i started with kalemne two months ago high five!
@CommanderReplay
7 жыл бұрын
Mask of Memory is an absolute workhorse in my Aurelia deck. Tutor for it early, and keep your hand full. Also its not as threating as the swords, so its not usually going to eat single target removal like the swords.
@0xGRIDRUNR
7 жыл бұрын
this actually gave me some really cool ideas about boros edh (which i never really liked) and how to play it to a more fun extent that isnt just turning cards sideways!
@krisdaschwab912
7 жыл бұрын
I love my Depala EDH deck. It builds itself, the card advantage is insane, and since it's a dwarven and vehichle tribal I can just camp on what I have until more comes along.
@tokertalk9648
7 жыл бұрын
the mana rocks that all got banned in 1v1 are super cheap right now on mtgo and will be legal again in like 7 weeks for multiplayer edh. Its a good time to pick em up dirt cheap. mana crypt is like 75 cents mana vault is like 30 cents and top is 13 cents.
@bryanbonar
7 жыл бұрын
Someone has probably already mentioned this to you guys but Josh, on your comment about the quality of your Siracha sleeves - they also use the Eclipse material! That would explain their durability.
@michaelortiz393
7 жыл бұрын
glad you guys are on topic with guilds, I would really like if you talked about other combinations like azourius and simic. keep it up guys
@justsomeguy66
7 жыл бұрын
I made this boros deck a while back, it's kinda based of modern rw prison and its pretty darn good: //Commander 1 Basandra, Battle Seraph //Lands 1 Abandoned Outpost 1 Arid Mesa 1 Boros Garrison 1 Clifftop Retreat 1 Command Tower 1 Homeward Path 1 Kor Haven 1 Maze of Ith 1 Mistveil Plains 4 Mountain 1 Needle Spires 15 Plains 1 Plateau 1 Rugged Prairie 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Slayers' Stronghold 1 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion 1 Temple of Triumph 1 Thawing Glaciers 1 Wasteland //Spells 1 Ajani Steadfast 1 Aurification 1 Austere Command 1 Blasphemous Act 1 Blood Moon 1 Boros Cluestone 1 Boros Signet 1 Cast Out 1 Chandra, Flamecaller 1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance 1 Chaos Warp 1 Crawlspace 1 Day of Judgment 1 Duelist's Heritage 1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion 1 Enlightened Tutor 1 Farsight Mask 1 Ghostly Prison 1 Gideon Jura 1 Gilded Lotus 1 Greater Auramancy 1 Idyllic Tutor 1 Karmic Justice 1 Land Tax 1 Master Warcraft 1 Nahiri, the Harbinger 1 Norn's Annex 1 Oblivion Ring 1 Open the Vaults 1 Powerstone Minefield 1 Protection of the Hekma 1 Pursuit of Knowledge 1 Quarantine Field 1 Reverence 1 Righteous Cause 1 Sol Ring 1 Sphere of Safety 1 Story Circle 1 Swiftfoot Boots 1 Thunderstaff 1 Vedalken Orrery 1 War's Toll 1 Wrath of God //Creatures 1 Academy Rector 1 Archangel of Tithes 1 Archon of Justice 1 Blazing Archon 1 Boros Guildmage 1 Bruna, the Fading Light 1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight 1 Gisela, the Broken Blade 1 Goblin Diplomats 1 Guardian Seraph 1 Hedron-Field Purists 1 Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence 1 Lost Auramancers 1 Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker 1 Mother of Runes 1 Resolute Archangel 1 Sunblast Angel 1 Windborn Muse
@ninjafished
7 жыл бұрын
wow that IS a very different take on Boros. Well done!
@aktonkulous821
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice!
@DonovanPresents
7 жыл бұрын
justsomeguy66 I've thought of a similar deck. I remember playing against a player who played with Boros Control. I want to play with Basandra control EDH deck as well
@sethpeters7362
7 жыл бұрын
justsomeguy66 Good stuff, thank you for mentioning Basandra. I was disappointed they didn't include her. Have you thought about Goblin Spymaster and/or Assault Suit?
@sebastianahrens2385
7 жыл бұрын
Basandra's artwork is so damn cool.
@Unforgiven11
7 жыл бұрын
in my play group land destruction is frowned upon if it's on a wide scale. Blowing up a special land like a Maze of Ith, or if someone is just dominating the board blowing up one of their bounce lands or duel lands to take out a color they need is acceptable to but I would never take out more than one land in a game
@Miztickow
7 жыл бұрын
I don't have a Boros deck, but I have a Mono-White Rune-Tail life gain deck and a Mono-Red Grenzo menace deck. My white deck uses Emeria Shepherd and Druidic Satchel for draw and ramp and a few other more obvious things. My red deck uses Rapacious One, Sword of the Animist, and Sword of Feast and Famine for ramp. The draw is already built into Grenzo.
@braddtheodd3390
7 жыл бұрын
I get what you guys mean. But my Kalemne deck most of the time beats the crap out of everyone I play with. It's really fast, I use a lot of artifact for draw/ramp, and of course, it's combat focused, but since it can be faster and harder to block than most decks, it gets the other players where they're not expecting. I love that you made this video, because it basically says all I've learned with all my years of Commander since one of my first decks was Brion Stoutarm. AND I use almost all of the things you guys said. And it works.
@tristanshutter7560
7 жыл бұрын
I built a Gisela edh to be a basic "double damage, kill you quickly" deck, but it soon evolved into more hate bear, with mana barbs, zozu, tectonic instability, and I found a sick combo against token strategies with Blasphemous act(or similar mass creature damage) and repercussions
@ilfurlano1228
5 жыл бұрын
Feather, we welcome you!
@Scopesightzx
7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite decks is Anax and Cymede. It's a unique take on voltron, as I have focused on the heroic mechanic. In my search for this deck, I really took to heart the fact that instants and sorceries provide the highest boost in power in relation to mana cost (things like brute strength are very critical), and that heroic is basicaly a proto-prowess. Since the deck doesn't need to attach most things during the main phase, the deck can be more political, bluffing when I have a lot of mana open to make deals, and it can quickly close out games with double strike and one shot damage doublers
@admanios
7 жыл бұрын
I have a Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas deck, and I've built it to be fairly versatile. It straddles a few strategies: there's enough equipment in the deck to assemble a voltron, and enough creatures that boost Kalemne's experience AND impact the board, e.g. Godo, Bandit Warlord, Angel of Serenity, etc., but I'm not completely reliant on either strategy. It's not my most powerful deck, but it's still fun to play, and wins often enough that I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.
@jackthemayor2518
7 жыл бұрын
Red has Mana Flare which is a pretty powerful ramp enchantment. Whenever a player taps a land for mana that land produces another mana of the same type. Red also has "fork effects" which let you copy spells on the stack, and choose new targets.
@0kapi
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy and Josh, I play a Boros EDH deck with Brion Stoutarm leading the charge. Instead of being a straight aggro deck I tend to play it more conservative and don't try to put a target on myself swinging around a lot. I prefer to hold back and set-up combo turns where I kill multiple players at once. For example: Serra Avatar + Brion + Flameshadow Conjouring + Magewrithe's Stone/Thousand-Year Elixir. Play Avatar, Make a Copy, Swing and kill one player, throw token at another player with Brion, untap Brion with stone/elixir and throw the last avatar at another player. I'm not going to claim this happens a lot or consistently, but it's super fun to pull off.
@zackpumpkinhead8882
4 жыл бұрын
25:01 If you have the extra colorless mana, you can stack the Knight triggers so they happen additional times, but don't resolve so you still have less lands than an opponent before all your triggers resolve. You could, quite possibly, churn out all your lands this way.
@isaiahwelch8066
5 жыл бұрын
Last comment: For your average Boros deck, two things (they build off of each other): 1) Run both Sword of Feast and Famine + Sword of the Animist. The synergy here is stupid obvious. 2) One of the most underrated tactics is to actually bypass the first main phase. Why? Because Boros wants combat. Cards like Reconnaissance are particularly good at playing both offense and defense, maybe even giving you the blue trick of untapping a value creature. Going through combat first also means that tricks used to deal with damage from creatures (such as Evacuation or Cyclonic Rift) may be forced out earlier than expected, which means you get the first chance to rebuild. Honorable mention for Boros tactics/abilities: 1) Copying spells and abilities -- Reverbrate and Zada, Hedron Grinder. Value Town. 2) Extra combat steps. Quite literally, I saw a Commander Replay episode where Feather took down Bolas, the Ravager, from 71 life to 0, through 8 or 10 extra combat steps (using Aggravated Assault and Neheb Who Generates Mana). Never underestimate what dealing double or triple combat damage can do when your opponents don't block or can't block (Iroas is good for menace).
@dragonballtalk8527
4 жыл бұрын
Red does direct damage and white gains life so u can't lose
@S1l3nT8081
7 жыл бұрын
When you were talking about mana base I couldn't help but think about putting in Sunglasses of Urza to help you get out your Red spells should you be short mountains and not have land tax in play. When you were talking about colour hate I was thinking cards like Boil, Boiling Seas, Scald
@itsamem4rio
7 жыл бұрын
You know what would be fun to watch? A "mean deck" episode of Game Knights!
@thof4971
7 жыл бұрын
Although it's mostly me-search my Jor Kadeen list has some really good results. Ive found that artifacts give the color combo the most potential. I use equipment based combos like Nim deathmantle+ashnods altar+Angel of Invention or Beetleback Chief and sword of feast+famine with aggravated assault etc. as both colors fetch/recur them naturally.
@NSeaBear
3 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for help on your ramp/mana is the diamond artifacts (fire diamond/marble diamond)
@user-tl4ze2vq9i
7 жыл бұрын
maybe a bit late on this, but i play an archangel avacyn deck which is really value based, one card i think should be mentioned and i can't recall you guys doing it is mind's eye, totally slow and mana intensive but it's a very good way to keep up the pace with other decks. Also while i think that covering the color weaknesses is important, it's even more important to play to your strength, Boros can be really really fast without sacrificing card advantage with cards like stoneforge mystic, puresteel paladin, knight of the white orchid, bygone bishop and keeping a generally low curve, then rebuilding with reveillark, sun titan, karmic guide or just second sunrise /boros charm when they boarwipe, That's why i like Avacyn so much, she can keep your board intact, easily puts pressure on control player with the combination of flash and indestructible (especially if u can blink it with our favorite eldrazi) and while 3 dmgs are not much when she flips, she does take out all the utility creatures that infest the edh meta (at least mine), especially out of green decks (mulldaya, bloom tender anyone). Yosei is a good wincon if you run a sac and blink theme. Also the new teferi's protection , trove of temptation, and disrupt decorum are exceptional in the deck. Combat never happens in edh? you might as well make it happen and make it bad for your opps. oh and sunforger can even tutor for teferi's protection, that card is just bonker in every deck.
@ryandowns6233
7 жыл бұрын
I've been theorycrafting an Akiri light-stax deck. Since a lot of stax cards are artifacts, and boros requires a lot of artifacts for cards/ramp, Akiri synergizes really well. Some of the stuff I've been considering to help alleviate Boros' shortcomings: Seer's Sundial - lets you draw for a decent price Tamiyo's Journal - clues are great with Akiri, and this works even better if you're getting clues from other cards (like Bygone Bishop) Serum Tank - again, great with clues and the general theme of using artifacts and recurring them Reverberate & Reiterate & Dualcaster Mage - if an opponent casts a tutor/ramp/card draw spell, so can you! Key to the City - since Akiri is a voltron strategy, evasion is awesome and the potential card draw is pretty nice as well Magnifying Glass - it's inefficient ramp, but it does let you create clues to help with flooding Mana Web - forces your opponents into deciding whether they want to do stuff on their turn or hold up their mana for counterspells. Gives you valuable info since you can't counter their counters. Eerie Interlude - I put this in almost every white deck; it acts like a white Turn Aside, lets you dodge opponent's board wipes, and if you have the mana you can cast it in response to your own Wrath effect to be the only person left with a board. Ignorant Bliss - more cute than effective, but it's hilarious with Wheel effects Chandra's Ignition - once you get Akiri pumped high enough, youc an use this to potentially finish the game Lastly, I try to run one infinite combo just in case a game gets into a stalemate. Sword of Feast and Famine plus Aggravated Assault are great for an Akiri deck, since both can be tutored in Boros colors. I'm also considering Isochron scepter as re-casting the same spell over and over is a good way to net card advantage. Especially if it's a Pyretic Ritual or Reverberate. Tapped out Link: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/boros-staples/
@SnowHermit89
7 жыл бұрын
I've been piloting a Munda EDH deck where I abuse ETB on Allies. I could have used General Tazri, but I wanted the challenge of straight Boros. Works pretty well with Warstorm Surge, Flameshadow Conjuring. Conjurer's Closet, Mimic Vat, and etc.
@andrewturner7297
7 жыл бұрын
I have a munda boros deck and it is not one of my best but winning with it is amazing. It is combat focus and usually the best way i win is exploding all at once. The hardest part is picking the best time to go all in. but i will say i have been leaning toward the "all things become indestructible" in my decks. I may go back and add some to the allies deck.
@gond9166
6 жыл бұрын
I also use all the Reflect damage spells. Such as Deflecting Palm, Comepuence , Boros Fury Shield, Reflect Damage, Stuffy Doll, Repercussion etc. Making the deck reactive and very dangerous.
@derekwismer7602
7 жыл бұрын
Adrianna humans has won me several games and i even went infinite once without knowing it was in the deck, love the videos guys
@jasonb6860
7 жыл бұрын
Study on Impulse Red Enchantment Whenever an opponent casts a spell, exile the top card of your library unless that player pays [1].. Until your next end step, you may play cards exiled this way. do it WotC
@DarkRulerHaDes666
7 жыл бұрын
IMO, the best way to play Boros is with a solid artifact equipment sub-theme. Interestingly, running both Boros partners as the commanders would aid this strategy.
@matthewholst2376
5 жыл бұрын
So there is 1 red mana dork that I know of, but it might help. It’s called sisters of the flame. It’s a 3 mana 2/2 tap for red mana
@SamusX10
7 жыл бұрын
A bit surprised that Radiance didn't come up during the colour-hate portion of the conversation - Bathe in Light and Brightflame can be huge surprises :)
@RookedWithElodin
7 жыл бұрын
I have an Aurelia deck and it is very different from my other edh decks. I was actually inspired by Game Knights! Basically all my other edh decks can get a little masturbatory and I wanted to make a deck that was more interactive than just keeping my opponents from doing things. It is definitely beat down style with a fair number of cheaper creatures with the goal of just killing one person after another and it has probably ended up as my 'best' deck. I totally hadn't thought about some of the cards you'd mentioned like Avacyn or selfless spirit and I even have a sunforger in my Ruhan deck that I totally hadn't thought about putting in Aurelia. Great episode guys!
@austinhatzenbeler8491
5 жыл бұрын
Listening to this in preparation for building Feather! Oops all spells in Boros seems fun!
@khalidmubarak3879
7 жыл бұрын
I have 2 boros decks one lead by adriana, its an aggro tokens deck with a metalcraft sub theme that has a plan on going big. I also have a Gisela angel tribal deck with a double damage effects also being a main theme of the deck to end the game faster because angel are expensive even with the ramp or cheat into play the deck has there is just so many creatures the deck can play a turn. the double damage effects really help the angels out in the deck with first strike, double strike or gisela helping the angels stay alive
@tvttv111
7 жыл бұрын
Hey there Command Zone. A little late seeing this episode but I wondered if you guys have ever played with "Braid of Fire" from the Coldsnap set? I just think this card is awesome for Red and a form of mana ramp that is weird but useful.
@snakeman830
7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Giaphur Orrery, since it helps Boros decks both draw cards and ramp. It does require being more aggressive to get full use out of it, though.
@markgriffiths2659
7 жыл бұрын
I have an Anax & Cynamede deck for Boros that tries as much as possible to stick to what the colour pair wants to do. I haven't really counted it out, but it's probably 40% creatures, 40% land, and 20% pump spells. I use Battalion and Heroic to make things even bigger, and just go at it. I think a lot of its success comes from the fact that there is just so much redundancy in the deck - it doesn't actually matter what creatures I draw, the deck will still work, so I never need to go looking for specific stuff, and boardwipes almost don't matter. However, I think a large portion of this is down to the meta, which is true of all decks of course, but thought I'd mention it all the same!
@calebhurst2529
7 жыл бұрын
I literally just built a Gisela angel tribal deck, and it's been working pretty well so far. (But you do need hecka manna rocks!) If I wasn't such a cheapskate, I'd work Keranos in there too. Boros is my favorite, even if it's not the best. Staff of Nin (or similar) is a must too.
@snowcoveredplainswalker442
7 жыл бұрын
My fiance actually runs a tuned Depala deck, it's actually capable of keeping up with 75% of the other decks in the meta, easily the best Boros general in my opinion.
@fbolton4622
7 жыл бұрын
when jimmy went "not for meeee" at the start I died with laughter!!!
@deskgo
7 жыл бұрын
I play the two boros partner commanders and basically play a ton of ramp and hate artifacts. I run Armageddon, ravages of war, winter orb, Mana web and blood moon. The deck does really well. I don't play it very often, but if you want to win in boros this is the way to do it. Eventually you just slam both commanders give the x/3 haste and double strike and one shot someone.
@oliverhenneberger6054
7 жыл бұрын
My favorite red ramp is the enchantment "Frenzied Fugue". Steal the same land now and every of your upkeeps. Sharing is caring. xD On top off that you have a lot of utility for other situations too. ^^
@joshleekwai8895
7 жыл бұрын
Oh - this is a good one. I like it!
@seanmachlan3282
7 жыл бұрын
Cool episode. Please do Rakdos next. I've wanted to build a Rakdos deck for a long time, but I can't wrap my head around it.
@docterfantazmo
7 жыл бұрын
I'm making a Kalemne Tron deck with colourless ramp/big beasties, add in some combat tricks and BAM! Getting the giant boot in could be fun.
@williamprudhomme91
7 жыл бұрын
Closest Boros got to a decent commander for a non-aggro strategy is Depala with utility cards (Cultivators' Caravan, Duergar Edgemage, Dwarven recruitors, smoggler copters), if I had to I'd play a staxy artifact-control deck with bunch of mana rocks, luminarch ascencion and LD or perhaps a bomberman combo but we'd miss a bunch of key pieces.
@Zenondikar
7 жыл бұрын
I think a great aspect of red that's a little underused outside of mizzix decks is actually copy spells! Someone tapping out for a stroke of genius? Fork it! If the green players want to spend their first few turns with rampant growths/cultivate/kodama's reach then copy it and get your game going quick too. Opponents trying to kill your commander with single target removal? Wild ricochet and throw it over their way! Spending 2-5 mana for copy/redirect effects are a great way to make boros "play" like the other colours, literally, and I think they're actually very viable and diverse... in most edh games people cast big instant/sorceries for card draw and ramp. Great episode as always guys
@anarchond
6 жыл бұрын
You guys should go back and re do this subject again now that its been a few blocks. Im trying to build a boros edh deck with the new ravnica release either aurelia or tajic
@MetalSnakeBoogy
7 жыл бұрын
i would believe you would need more board wipe and single targeting cards. gain some control and then voltron swing with boros as your commander. adding disks would help too or even a cataclysm if you are holding back.
@ty_sylicus
7 жыл бұрын
Aurelia was my first Commander deck and I still pilot it, to some infamy among friends, til this day.
@shayliakara
6 жыл бұрын
Red and White are my favorite colors. I love Chandra and Elspeth as my favorite Planeswalkers, and I love angles and humans. I feel like red and white is the best way to have that.
@joshpetit44
7 жыл бұрын
How to win in Boris: play Gisela blade of goldnight as your commander. Put in heartless hidetsugu. Done.
@joshpetit44
7 жыл бұрын
Boros*
@CommanderReplay
5 жыл бұрын
@@joshpetit44 Also works well with Aurelia, albeit with more damage to yourself. But hey everyone is at about 10, so they should be easy pickings.
@EvanMMoon
7 жыл бұрын
In my fun days of EDH, Brion was my Boros-colored Commander. Search for Sunforger, search for creature theft. Play your General, throw your opponents' creatures back at them. The deck ran around 18% ramp, and it still just SUUUUCKEDD. Red and White need some control over what other players do. Silence and Orim's Chant helped, but now we have the flail, which is searchable in White. The play style works better together with Blue counter spells or Black hand diggers (you choose or random due to your card draw options replenishing hands). Still very voltrony, despises mass Artifact removal, relies on playing scrappy. Naya is basically a 5-color Green deck minus Blue and Black. My bias is that 2-color play leads to a disadvantage in full on pod styled Commander. 3 & 4 color is must stronger... 5 is too splotchy. Oros, the Avenger is currently my strongest Commander.
@CragroAgg
7 жыл бұрын
Something I like to do with my Boros deck is pull out my legendary creatures and assign each of them a number, then roll a dice to see which will be the commander for that game. Since the deck runs about the same no matter who the commander is, it's an easy way to change up the games. It's also a good way to cut cards from the 99 that initially seemed like they would do well, but fall short when the commander isn't there to prop them up.
@Kaiserland111
4 жыл бұрын
What about a low mana cost, 3/3 Boros-colored Angel/Knight/Soldier with flying that allows you to pay X colorless and draw X cards, where X is less than or equal to the number of opponents you dealt combat damage to this turn. This would be a cheap (3 mana, any combo of Red/White) creature with evasion (flying) in one of the most popular Boros tribes that allows card draw based off of combat damage, incentivising Boros to do their thing. I know it's still an aggro commander, but it helps with card draw at an early stage in the game. It also encourages the philosophy which many commanders espouse, which is to hit all players throughout the game so it isn't just ganging up on one player. Lastly, the multiple card draw per turn for a pretty low mana cost (and flying) can help the aggro Boros commander get an early boost, even if he levels off later on.
@gond9166
6 жыл бұрын
I made a successful Boros-Burning Bridge deck with Gisela as the commander. I use board wipes and cards that take control of all creatures to keep people at bay. Then set up enchantments to stop combo players. Proceeding to use artifacts and enchantments to fuel my mana and then deal insane amount of damage to the entire board and all players at the same time. Example: Gisela in play, caged Sun or any other big mana producing permanent like Manaflare, Extraplanar Lens. Then Something like Rolling earthquake x20 dealing 40 to all creatures and players (exept you cuz Gisela)
@tzarl
7 жыл бұрын
Sun titan is a pretty popular value engine card in monowhite that works pretty well in boros too.
@faerie7dragon
5 жыл бұрын
A good way to skip the downsides on Final Fortune or Glorious End is to use "Can't Lose" effects like Platinum Angel or Gideon of the Trials Emblem.
@dragonballtalk8527
4 жыл бұрын
Red does direct damage and white gains life so u can't lose
@prost29javadoff66
6 жыл бұрын
I think that Iroas is a fair commander where it prevents all damage dealt to ur attacking creatures and gives ur creatures menace, so its super fun and reliable.
@Starfury117
7 жыл бұрын
I think with the amount of mana rocks that has been introduced, even Boros is able to get 10 ramp which definitely helps them catch up to the other colours An obscure red ramp is Sisters of the Flame though most people will probably just run the myrs since they are 2 mana ramp. Boros, I believe gets card draw from cards like Skull clamp Mentor of the Meek Infiltration Lens Basically find cards that rewards you for going wide or attacking. My boros deck is Jor Kadeen. Basically I go wide with tokens and artifact ramp, then on turn 4, I play my commander and swing with +3/0 boost for all my guys. Since the damage output is so high, many times, people will block my 8/4 first striking commander so infiltration lens draws me 2 cards. Mentor is really good because since Im prioritizing tokens, most tokens are 1/1 and trigger mentor (before my commander buff comes in). Skull clamp is just good. I am always looking for more card draw though. If anyone has any idea for Boros, please let me know ! Lastly, I definitely like running 1 red elemental blast if not both pyro as well. I always want to have a card that no one expects Red - Fire elemental blast White - Lapse of Certainty Black - Imp's Mischief Colourless - Warping Wail Green - Constant Mists Blue - Commandeer Great list, hopefully Boros will become stronger because it is really fun to play Boros, going wide then dealing massive damage.
@jeanmarais337
7 жыл бұрын
Glorious End...are there cards that make you skip your turn or your next end step?
@Distractioninja
7 жыл бұрын
Hey! I got an episode idea for y'all: Hidden generals. After seeing Josh play his Nekusar deck, I was wondering if there was any specific way he went about creating the decklist and choosing a general for that.
@mikelong2756
5 жыл бұрын
Ravnica allegiance is here. I'm actually from the future. Smothering Tithe, Divine Visitation. There's some pretty new stuff since this aired
@rosavanopheusden5211
7 жыл бұрын
So awesome to see Jimmy in The Circle :-) Love you guys!
@commandcast
7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget! We're giving away a free rare card if you download Magic Puzzle Quest here: m.onelink.me/5318602 SO GET TO IT! ;D
@karfsma778
7 жыл бұрын
Sundial DOES work with the You lose at the beginning of your next end step cards. Use the 'Dial in response to the game loss trigger going on the stack.
@nomatyx5789
7 жыл бұрын
uhhh... Ramp: Braid of Fire, seething song, and then artifact ramp like thran dynamo. Card draw: Fateful showdown, Desperate ravings, Cathartic reunion, etc. There's a lot of good cards, and then you could always run Gisela, blade of goldnight and do burn spells and stuff! Plus, to slow down your opponent, you could Ajani Vengeant, ajani steadfast, and other boros planceswalkers. I don't know; it sounds good in theory. Boros also gets sphere of safety and ghostly prison.
@lourilin
7 жыл бұрын
Braid of fire only good for things you can cast in your upkeep (only instant speed) right? Mana empties at end of every step now?
@TnumsProd
3 жыл бұрын
Toggo and Ardenn. My new favorite deck, boros equipment.
@HamsterSt4r
7 жыл бұрын
Really hyped now for building my Boros Legendary Legion deck
@jeanmarais337
7 жыл бұрын
The temple of the false god topic is such. If you need mana accelleration after your 4th land drop, then play it.
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