biggest winner of this patch is probably Terry, I think you can move him out of unplayable tier on your old tierlist
@johnnieboy66
10 сағат бұрын
This patch is like Capcom saying, "We really miss the Season 1 top tiers, we apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused." And when we say: "Ok, what about the bottom tiers?" They say: "What do you mean?"
@NebulaOak
7 сағат бұрын
And then when Marisa asked to get the same treatment, Capcom said no.
@EAprima
6 сағат бұрын
Finaly. People are finally seeing what I've been saying for the past year. Personally, i still cannot believe this. Capcom really doesn't care and I hate saying that.
@jettisonantics
3 сағат бұрын
@@EAprimayou are blowing this way out of proportion. "Capcom doesn't care" is just making baseless assumptions. If they didn't care, they wouldn't be doing a mid-season patch at all and would be doing what season 1 was. And none of the buffed characters are as good as they were in season 1 overall, not even close. The only thing with this patch is that it doesn't significantly change the meta like the end-of-season patches do, which was probably their intention.
@loserprance
3 сағат бұрын
Capcom reinstates the Season 1 top tiers but Chun missed the bus
@lainahtan13
2 сағат бұрын
@@NebulaOak Actually they said fuck no
@Oceanatornowk
11 сағат бұрын
No Manon buffs. Can’t have shit in Paris
@SimoneBellomonte
11 сағат бұрын
Did they fix her SA2 yet?
@anormalhumanhopefully8570
10 сағат бұрын
@@SimoneBellomonte they did that a few patches ago iirc
@meatwadisgod
10 сағат бұрын
@@SimoneBellomonteIf you mean people falling out of it randomly, that was basically the only major "buff" she got for like the first 9 months of the game.
@POWPLANET
10 сағат бұрын
@@meatwadisgod well her back HP is +1 since season 2, but I don't think the sa2 is consistent and she's still sewer tier.
@SefoKaya
9 сағат бұрын
Actually you can. Just swim in the Seine :)
@makhina8839
10 сағат бұрын
Honestly this feels like CapCom only listens to the Japanese meta. They’ve been talking up Gief and begging for Luke buffs
@wolverinex8330
7 сағат бұрын
Capcom historically always had, they’re nearing Wargaming levels of favoritism
@user-et3xn2jm1u
7 сағат бұрын
But Ed buffs? Why?
@Crouton-
7 сағат бұрын
@@user-et3xn2jm1uEd's actually pretty popular in Japan
@EAprima
6 сағат бұрын
But thge Japanese are complaining about these changes. They agree or saying the same thing as the majority of the west. These changes and planning are bad.
@makhina8839
6 сағат бұрын
@@EAprima in what corner of the internet have you seen that. Cus Jiyuna and pro players from Japan have been talking about nerfs to Gief for a while. So it’s not the Masters players saying that for sure
@ReedFunk-h6z
10 сағат бұрын
Kimberly will be the captain falcon of this game. Constant buffs that never once address her actual problems.
@remylebeau34
9 сағат бұрын
She still has bad hitboxes on a few moves (sthk, crhp, run Lk) and last season they buffed the hitbox of level 3 but it can still miss after using Qcfhp into qcflp mid screen. Also I swear they keep subtly nerfing her at the same time. I used to be able to drive reversal into spray can, doesn't work at all now. Qcfhp or qcfpp used to setup fjhp crossup Bhk easily now it's way harder to do. There's more but they aren't listed and I can't remember all of them.
@SadiCWIn32exe
8 сағат бұрын
Her actual problem is she existing in the game instead of a Karin, Ibuki, Mika or even Rose/Menat. the character itself 3D model visuals, animations and SFX, are beyond fixing
@ReedFunk-h6z
7 сағат бұрын
@@SadiCWIn32exe god forbid we get a hot black woman in the game
@w.h.8047
7 сағат бұрын
@@SadiCWIn32exeStreet fighter fans when new character
@hsemicolonc413
7 сағат бұрын
@@SadiCWIn32exePLEASE explain this take in a way that doesn't make it into a race thing, I'm dying to hear it.
@Ennbeard
10 сағат бұрын
My best guess is that the "good" characters are in a solid enough place that Capcom feels their ""problems"" can be fixed with smaller changes like this. Stuff like Lily, Manon, Honda, etc all probably require some amount of "back to the drawing board" which might be a bit much of an ask for a smaller patch like this.
@MijinLaw
9 сағат бұрын
Dhalsim could be fixed by making his long range pokes safe IMO
@darthvaderreviews6926
8 сағат бұрын
Yeah, people are very quick to argue the game's worst characters must get attention first before touching the better ones, but these changes are easier to design on shorter notice. IMO their main priority with this patch is trying to balance these character's *movesets,* less so their overall strength.I wouldn't be surprised if things like the JP 2HP buff might've been motivated by data telling them that JPs aren't using it much for anti air anymore, for example.
@benross9174
8 сағат бұрын
They need to retire E Honda for the next SF and make his disciple the sumo representative. A character this bad at top level and soo toxic at low and mid level cant be healthy for the game
@MijinLaw
8 сағат бұрын
@@benross9174 I think it was broski that said SF6 shouldn't have had all the world warrior characters; definitely not both blanka and honda, and dhalsim is "in the wrong game" (i.e. badly suited to relentless attacking style of the game).
@harryf9885
6 сағат бұрын
Marisa would have been an easy buff, like just revert the armor change that nerfed her at high level, when she was already bad at high level. Because it’s somewhat of an advanced technique that they nerfed (reacting to DI and other armored moves with a full quarter circle to go into stance, rather than a single Button press) It’s a targeted change too that only buffs her at the level she is weakest (her high health and damage output on big mistakes by your opponent make her decent at mid level and good at low level).
@KieranSteeves
10 сағат бұрын
I guess Capcom just has certain characters they want to be better than others.
@nickkiller-0710
10 сағат бұрын
They always have their darlings, Ken, Chun, Akuma, Bison and now Luke are consistently strong across every game. But in 6 what really stands out to me is that a lot of the newcomers have some stupid gimmick that makes them very hard to balance (Lily with Spire, Manon with Medals, Jamie with Drinks) so they're just scared of doing anything with them.
@Caleb-zl4wk
10 сағат бұрын
This is unsurprising, to me, at least. And they’ve done a mostly beautiful job of it. With the notable exception of a few DLC dudes, of course.
@P0rk_Sinigang
10 сағат бұрын
It is what it is. I main Jamie and Manon. At this point, I know what I signed up for.
@zackswitch9656
9 сағат бұрын
Such as, dlc
@jpVari
8 сағат бұрын
Yes, literally. Considering, the balance is pretty great. There are strong characters of every archetype.
@Jorgec224
10 сағат бұрын
Capcom did this to hurt me personally
@EAprima
6 сағат бұрын
I think they hurted tons of us.
@tangramman
10 сағат бұрын
This comment only affects Dee Jay.
@DeathDasein
4 сағат бұрын
XD
@Karuari_
9 сағат бұрын
To me the Bison scissors change was not intended to make the move more punishable, but to make it so that Bison has a harder time trying to spacing trap you afterwards in ranges where a punish isn't possible, thus the patch note talking about Bison continuing pressure after blocked scissors.
@adamlarusso1204
8 сағат бұрын
This is what I thought as well
@gameologian7365
10 сағат бұрын
The drive reversal change is a big buff for manon cuz she wants HP grab. Now it’ll be consistent instead of maybe
@DeathDasein
4 сағат бұрын
good point, but who drive reversals manon? XD
@user-et3xn2jm1u
2 сағат бұрын
@@DeathDasein Manon does 🥴
@slinnkys5405
8 сағат бұрын
To be honest this update tracks with most balance changes capcom has made in the past 5 years. They have never really cared about weak characters being weak (like SFV Zangief), in smaller balance patches they have always prioritized adjusting characters who have gotten significantly better/worse.
@NebulaOak
6 сағат бұрын
Like Marisa?
@chm2
9 сағат бұрын
This is the "we are filled with regrets" patch
@thelastpolishkid
10 сағат бұрын
All the pros that main Luke just need to drop him every few months so Capcom can just buff him more. Can't have the face of the game not getting picked in the big tourneys
@NatalieExists
4 сағат бұрын
not the luke boycott
@akilcharles3473
3 сағат бұрын
I mean most of the Luke players all went abandon ship to Akuma and some of the characters that gotten buff in the previous patch all went to them. Mena for 1 went to playing Zangief soon after.
@RamonesFan201
32 минут бұрын
@@akilcharles3473 I think that was more a protest over the Blanka nerfs on Mena's part. Could be wrong
@Nathan-tf6dk
10 сағат бұрын
They are most likely testing big Lily and Manon changes. Lily has a very degenerative play style atm. Giving her a small change/buff won’t change that. I think Capcom isn’t sure what to change yet.
@penguinmaster16
8 сағат бұрын
that's some major copium
@Crouton-
7 сағат бұрын
@@penguinmaster16one can hope
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
6 сағат бұрын
Game has been out for over a year and they still aren't sure wtf to do with her lol
@akilcharles3473
3 сағат бұрын
@@penguinmaster16 Randuum would say otherwise, he's been killing it on the online circuit with Manon winning tournaments with her.
@Substantial-hf1rm
Сағат бұрын
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil her kit was very poorly thought out to begin with, an unga bunga character centered around just one move with no sauce. I don't know wtf they where expecting tbh.
@gavalos3027
10 сағат бұрын
Many ppl were expecting a balance patch because Capcom said there would be a balance patch
@florianfischer5593
10 сағат бұрын
Someone high at capcom is a ken main and akuma as pocket istg💀
@EAprima
5 сағат бұрын
Broski - Hey bro. More than ever, it's safe say that there are two groups in this game. You have the 13 (now 14 combining Terry) Top Tier Characters that are running around with a swiss army knife, and you have the Low Tier Characters that are running around with a basic knife. It's like two hemispheres fighting against each other with the top hemisphere coasting when fighting the opposing hemisphere and the lower hemisphere needs to work 140-180% harder to get the same results as the top hemisphere. If you remove one of these hemisphere, you'll end up with a pretty balanced game as all those tournaments results from launch date till now reflected. From a marketing point of view, the Deejay, JP and Luke buffs looks like a case of developer favouritism instead of thinking of the market. All three characters don't need the buffs for the stats doesn't support it, and we've seen no marketing execution of late centering around the the 3 characters (especially Deejay) to justify any changes. Thinking of their primary target audience (casuals), the focus should all be on Terry as it has been for Bison and AKuma for Casuals are led by DLC, merch and new content. Buffing the low tier characters is what Capcom supposed to be doing to appeal to their secondary audience (the core SF and Fighting Game fans), the key audience that will keep the game alive for years. So since their revenues are dependant on DLCs, why did Capcom rebuff Deejay, JP and Luke instead of nerfing characters that need to be nerfed (Rashid, Ed, etc), and why don't they buff all the lower tier characters to make them catch up with the Top Tier in effort to make the game more refreshing via balancing? Not taking this expected approach and not fixing the key issues that has been plaguing the game since launch - such as High Mid & Low Hit Definitions, Missing Inputs, etc. - only tells us that Capcom quadrupled down on their Likes & Favourites. Capcom said, "there aren't enough JP players out there so we made some more changes". Ridiculous. If that's so then go buff Ryu & Lily for there aren't enough Ryu & Lily players out there! I don't get it but it is what it is. I fear nothing will change until Season 5 which will be far too late if they wait that long. Excluding the select couple (e.g. Dhalsim) these changes are illogical to me, and considering their history of SF5 I wouldn't be surprised if SF5 PTSD will resurface in the mind of certain people. Capcom do what they like. They don't want to upset certain pro gamers out there, they want to appeal on creating an exciting visual display in the esports scene to help bring butts to seats. All their focused is on where the money is regardless of the game quality and that seems to be their bottom line. Such a shame.
@lt_johnmcclane
10 сағат бұрын
It’s sad. I was looking forward to Mena playing more Gief but now he’s probably just gonna go back to Luke instead
@andersonneil2293
7 сағат бұрын
He said bison on twitter
@akilcharles3473
3 сағат бұрын
Better Luke than going Akuma like usage rate for this character is annoyingly large. And besides he won CPT with this character.
@chasepalumbo2929
2 сағат бұрын
Mena’s gief was so fun to watch
@megapussi
10 сағат бұрын
I feel like the other thing the drive reversal change helps with is it universally gives every character a meterless side switch punish. I've had a lot of times where I cornered my opponent n whenever they tried to get out I just did drive reversal to force them back in, now if you try smth like that u could end up giving up the corner.
@jobertu
10 сағат бұрын
weird patch for sure, hopefully next patch is more substantial/touches on the weaker characters, right now it feels like honda, lily, manon, marisa, jamie are being forgotten about when theres definitely improvements to be made to them, i know people have a lot of varied thoughts on buffing vs. nerfing more but i think the game will be more enjoyable if they work on making the low tiers better before looking at the high tiers
@SkeebleMan-sg9oi
5 сағат бұрын
This has been said every patch for a year and a half now. But people will call me a scrub for saying the game isnt balanced
@kamren3542
4 сағат бұрын
I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THE SAME TJING LMFAO@@SkeebleMan-sg9oi
@Musialproductions
10 сағат бұрын
Got into this game in Season 2 and mained JP. Very excited to actually experience a consistent anti air and hopefully get master rank
@riotstamp
9 сағат бұрын
His cr.hp isn't why you're not in master
@mattoi_
9 сағат бұрын
he didnt say that
@riotstamp
6 сағат бұрын
@@mattoi_ I'm just being mean
@venivediicommented4046
4 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂@@riotstamp
@benross9174
11 сағат бұрын
They nerfed Jamie by a bug fix (ok it was only 75 damage but still)
@zackswitch9656
9 сағат бұрын
I dont like the drive reversal nerf. Seems like a sterilization of the mechanic. Which sf6 doesnt need more of.
@KingJinzo2125
9 сағат бұрын
Same, I’d rather just those specific characters without a 6 frame medium get the throw punish instead of making it universal across the board
@RamonesFan201
26 минут бұрын
play the neutral
@charleskuhns6042
10 сағат бұрын
25% initial scaling for Gief hits hard. Only positive is off of drive rush or punish counter I think you can sweep afterwards for OKI. And his jumping headbutt hitbox got buffed so it hits crouching characters easier and I believe it got expanded slightly forward as well.
@EAprima
6 сағат бұрын
It's bonkers on two fronts - 1. Gief is linear as heck to begin with. 2. Deejay, JP and Luke are top tier characters that doesn't need any buffing at all!
@charleskuhns6042
4 сағат бұрын
@@EAprima deejay got nerfed pretty hard last patch and JP not having a decent anti-air I understand. The Luke buff was 100% unnecessary
@NoirePkmn
10 сағат бұрын
If DR became -4 on block I feel like Dhalsim would find himself in situations where he needed to cr.lp (5 frame) to punish it lmao. His punish game is atrocious at times but it is what it is.
@shadowsansvii8715
8 сағат бұрын
I would like it if all Dee Jay’s attacks did 10,000 damage per hit without scaling. It wouldn’t be enough but it’s a work in progress.
@rafdes
10 сағат бұрын
My boy Gief 😢. It was fun while it lasted. Also I think Capcom wants players to go back to their previous mains since so many went to Akuma and Bison.
@HPLovecraft-lx6yz
10 сағат бұрын
Who ever made up the word "Queue"? Lets just take of the U and E and just call it Que.
@TheTrueForerunner
10 сағат бұрын
Sorry, I don't think I have enough time for 3 letter. Just q please
@TimeEnthusiast
10 сағат бұрын
Que?
@heyitsmort7744
10 сағат бұрын
Let’s just use cue for everything
@justsignmeup911
10 сағат бұрын
In algorithms it's usually called deque (double ended queue)
@HPLovecraft-lx6yz
9 сағат бұрын
@@TimeEnthusiast Si
@TenjinZekken
8 сағат бұрын
There are two different reasons I think the changes are happening the way they are. The first is that the unchanged characters need bigger sweeping changes that aren't going to be doable in small patches like this. IMO the more likely thing is that Gief being strong simply caused more people to do the game than people joining because of it. Gief players likely weren't not playing the game because he was bad. Grappler mains tend to play the grappler regardless of how strong they are. But I can see a world where people were legit leaving the game because of Zangief being frustrating to play against. I think the new DLC characters starting with Akuma have all been very strong, all probably top 5 (including Terry, though obviously we have no data yet) means Capcom is using updates to Increase players. People may not like to hear it but companies pay attention to things like play data, and it plays a real role in game balance. I think it's easy to see why Grappler are bad in like, every game. Bevause of the one thing that ties every fg company, they're businesses above all else. I'm willing to bet in all games, grapplers are simply hated more than they're loved. Slightly tangent, I think Broski's statement about shoto players being disloyal is relevant here. IMO each shoto release so far, (Luke in SF5, Akuma as the first Shoto DLC, and now Terry) are either clearly better, or at least evenly matched for high tier with slight weaknesses or strengths in either direction. Shot players are going to buy that DLC if it has a shoto better than the one they play or at least MIGHT. If any were clearly worse, they'd lose shoto bucks.
@thegrimreaper6980
7 сағат бұрын
Yeah, fair enough. Balancing a fighting game is so darn difficult. :/
@Substantial-hf1rm
Сағат бұрын
I disagree, while casuals make up the majority the Akuma boom was because he's always been an extra popular character. My time with smash has shown me people like the big punching bags like Geif because they can mash more, it's the zoners they can't stand. Ironically Akuma and JP are some of the best at that and they're Capcom favorites. Casuals also don't know shit about frame data and are getting gobbled up by scissor kick, I feel like that's more likely to cause a rage drop than getting grappled.
@Doople
50 минут бұрын
Probably some truth to this. Although if this was the main reasoning then damage nerf for Akuma would make sense and Bison dmg would be gutted. Also Bison scissor kick would have been nerfed too since that is a scrub killer and good at high tier play too.
@duxnihilo
10 сағат бұрын
4:49 😅 Luke is the cover boy.
@tilian6660
9 сағат бұрын
As a Marisa player, I think its time I take a break from SF6 . Held out hope for to long.😭
@AsAboveSoBelow-g7d
8 сағат бұрын
Sub terry, that's my plan as a marisa player.
@Crouton-
7 сағат бұрын
@@AsAboveSoBelow-g7dtarry is pretty fun. Linking with light kick a lot feels nice, but still figuring out what allows shoulder bash to link to jabs and sometimes it doesn't
@janematthews9087
6 сағат бұрын
@@Crouton-spacing dependent. And it's a link instead of a buffer.
@coderkind
9 сағат бұрын
Capcom continuing the Season 2 DLC pay-to-win.
@ultragalacticlightkick862
2 сағат бұрын
You can win with everyone in sf6
@chasepalumbo2929
Сағат бұрын
Literally none of the dlc characters have been pay to win
@peepeeduck
Сағат бұрын
Bro actually saying fighting games are pay-to win...?
@Gleapgoogleplusisgone
10 сағат бұрын
This has got to be one of the crappiest balance patches outside dbfz in years.
@JustinRuta
9 сағат бұрын
The fixed guile, but in exchange they get to insult every other player.
@ginger_ale_man7
39 минут бұрын
WIND! SPINNING MIXER! OOH HAHA! CYCLONE! SPINNING MIXER! OOH HAHA! I SUMMON GREAT DESSERT STORM! OOH HAHA! SPINNING MIXER! OOH HAHA! SUPER RASHID KICK!
@Kasaaz
9 сағат бұрын
JP also doesn't seem to insta-Burnout you like he used to, so that's something. And you get more back for parrying over season 1. Edit: And he still scales WAY MORE on a bunch of stuff in combos. I don't think he's someone to worry about really outside of like the most top tier of JPs, because of the volatility in the playstyle.
@dotmp3883
5 сағат бұрын
I think what they mean by the change to scissor kicks is that bison could often get away with immediately doing a second scissor kicks after his first one is blocked and be somewhat safe but now hes too close to be safe doing 2 back to back
@SPZ-gv2on
8 сағат бұрын
I no longer lose my portal oki every time ken presses up forward ty capcom!
@bclk36
10 сағат бұрын
i also read it wrong and thought ed’s super meter gain was reduced by 80%. was mad at work all day for no reason 😂
@kevingriffith6011
9 сағат бұрын
I will say for the drive reversal changes, even if you've got a high damage punish for drive reversal like Akuma, it might be more worthwhile to go for the throw anyway just for the full 1 bar of drive gauge damage it does. It does at least equalize the equation somewhat, as I can see *any* character going for throw punish, even if they can get better damage elsewhere.
@azuresl5990
2 сағат бұрын
It depends on the situation, see if you want higher damage or drive gauge damage. But that still doesn't change the problem of the drive reversal design, the "privileged" characters have option to go for much higher damage punish combo
@user-et3xn2jm1u
2 сағат бұрын
It's also a buff to grapplers, who already had a great damaging -6 punish, now they'll be more confident using the H version every time instead of sometimes hedging with the L one.
@Ronin8300
10 сағат бұрын
JP gets back that war crime of a crouch fierce. Seriously, Capcom...
@dragonic22
9 сағат бұрын
Man, have you even tested it?
@Ronin8300
9 сағат бұрын
@@dragonic22 Have you read the patch notes? Invincibility to aerial normals from frame 2. In case that hasn't clicked for you. That means a year and a day to react and cleanly beat any jump attempt.
@dragonic22
9 сағат бұрын
@@Ronin8300 First off, its only on the arm. And It says 2nd ACTIVE frame, not second frame. It's not the frame 2 full body aerial normal invincible anti air you think it is
@Ronin8300
8 сағат бұрын
@dragonic22 Look, I'm not explaining this with the intention of arguing with you. Test it yourself. With those properties JP has virtually perfect antiair. And that is completely obnoxious for a character with his capacity to zone and damage output. In my estimation a poor decision for character balance. But have fun JP players....
@bbyjohn11
8 сағат бұрын
It’s crazy how jp players act like the zoner that fights full screen is entitled a one button dp to keep you from closing the gap.
@Kasaaz
8 сағат бұрын
The game still seems centralized around either really degenerate damage or having a really degenerate level 2.
@aledantih6524
10 сағат бұрын
JP got nerfed way too hard in S2, I think without his old combo routes and old amnesia the anti air buff is fine, he's still not as consistent of a zoner as Guile
@vitorferreira3553
4 сағат бұрын
Keep the old fart in the ground his place is in the trash
@vasilykiselev6285
6 сағат бұрын
Gief cannot break 6k barrier now without pc jump and ca, thats some great balancing
@charleskuhns6042
4 сағат бұрын
@@vasilykiselev6285 I think he still can with the obnoxiously timed juggle combo from sa2… ya know, the one that takes you manually timing each drive rush perfectly? Yeah that one he can still break 6k… I think lol they broke his fucking legs man feels bad
@TimeEnthusiast
10 сағат бұрын
It’s the Ken and Cammy’s era.
@slaw1990
7 сағат бұрын
I love that I read the notes was like hmm, saw Manon highlighted and then saw it was just a modern combo change. I wasn’t expecting anything but that was a bit rough. And the. Seeing some of the worst MUs get a buff it was weird. Capcom and JP seem to hate grapplers so much, why are they in the game at this point
@axeoseilez3207
10 сағат бұрын
All these changes and they choose to bully Gief and leave Rashid alone. There is no justice
@Crouton-
7 сағат бұрын
Tbf that zangief stuff was kinda obnoxious lol
@cosmic5665
6 сағат бұрын
@@Crouton-Oh yeah but the instant win tornado wasn't?
@theturtleking2454
5 сағат бұрын
The bison change was for clarity probably so that players are no longer “not grasping the situation”
@buddhakai1458
3 сағат бұрын
Capcom really wants Marisa players to never turn the game on again 💀💀
@Cassapphic
4 сағат бұрын
I think another notable aspect of the bison "nerf" is it's a bit harder for him to spacing trap, if you cant punish scissor kick you can go for a further reaching move that will check him reliably, not great but it's... something.
@user-et3xn2jm1u
7 сағат бұрын
Honestly wish they would have done less buffs this patch, mainly to Ed. And idk how I feel about the Drive Reversal change, I liked the variety before, but throw is a pretty weak punish so alright. Btw DRev needs to be at least -5 on block so you don't lose your turn if you're in burnout. I'm not expecting major until the 6mo patch, anyway. So I'm not bothered by lack of buffs to the low tiers. This was more of a S2 patch revision than a standalone patch by itself.
@Guitar-Dog
11 сағат бұрын
This game is amazing, so happy I jumped ship from Tekken (8 isn’t as fun to play) 😂
@SimoneBellomonte
10 сағат бұрын
Ikr, Street Fighter has the most genius design with the Drive System, it gives every1 equal options, Tekken only rewards aggressives. 💀
@Guitar-Dog
10 сағат бұрын
@@SimoneBellomonte the drive system and punish counter affecting the frames of each move the same helps so much, allows you to build your own offense.. I was a Tekken nerd in 7 hate the “aggressive” style, would be fine if movement was strong. Everyone is plus all the time unlike SF6 where you need to DR to get plus frames usually Edit: got to platinum with Akuma and just bought a hitbox love SF6
@Aguibeee
10 сағат бұрын
@@Guitar-Dogkeep going bro you’ll be Master Rank in no time!
@Guitar-Dog
10 сағат бұрын
@@Aguibeee that’s the goal, struggling to pick a character that isn’t Akuma. Waiting for Oro to get announced 😂 Bought SF5 just to play Oro
@filiprafaelcichonski2948
9 сағат бұрын
Same here. Tekken 8 basically turns into Strive when heat is activated. But I'm positive the game will get better with time just like 7
@bloodmoon920
8 сағат бұрын
This almost seems like the buffs and nerfs was specifically region influenced and not the whole community in its entirety.
@ManbhaTejsingh
20 минут бұрын
Thanks Broski!! Appreciate the breakdown.
@DumaTheSilent
4 сағат бұрын
Appreciate the breakdown. Thanks broski!
@sc065
10 сағат бұрын
I'm loving this patch, it's revealing that a majority of players (if they even play the game?) have terrible takes around balancing.
@pocketvices
10 сағат бұрын
This is true in every game's community
@Boyzby
7 сағат бұрын
But you have good takes just because you love it? Even Broski in this video talked about how weird a lot of, if not most, the changes are.
@sc065
7 сағат бұрын
@@Boyzby Didn't say that. BTW a tip on media literacy: influencers will use vague terms like "weird" when popular opinion is "bad", even though the influencer knows something isn't actually "bad," so they don't alienate an immediate trend to profit from. They are not actually agreeing with you and will likely have a "you know this thing is actually pretty good!" bit of content a week later when the mob has put down their silly pitchforks.
@Crouton-
7 сағат бұрын
Honestly kinda agree. I feel like these 3 characters kinda fell off of ranked for personally, and being able to fend off gief a bit more is nice.
@Substantial-hf1rm
Сағат бұрын
Broski gave pretty good explanations for his dislike towards the patch while you're just vaguely posting. What are the terrible takes you're complaining about exactly? I don't need your take to be agreeable but at least stand on business.
@Kasaaz
8 сағат бұрын
The Fix for AKI is still a problem for Lily, there are plenty of situations where having Wind Stock or using OD makes you do less damage. I thought they had fixed it for Season 2, but it seems like not.
@user-et3xn2jm1u
2 сағат бұрын
Lily's kit is full of so many holes. She's not even a bad character, but so many things that feel like they should work, don't.
@Calhasnopals
9 сағат бұрын
This patch doesn’t feel like it’s own update to me, so much as it feels like a follow up to the Season 2 patch. It is a bizarre way to tackle the games balance considering that, whilst more characters are closer in strength than ever, the gap between those characters and those outside is still massive
@arsonne
6 сағат бұрын
God awful patch overall. Buffing JP and Luke who were and have always been in the upper half of the cast is just a gigantic slap in the face.
@akilcharles3473
3 сағат бұрын
I will on the statement Broski said that the characters like some characters are now normal & balance that didn't need any buffs. Can't say the same for some other characters that do needed some nerfs as well like Ken, Akuma, Cammy & AKI(sorry Broski but as cool as AKI is she's kinda a bitch to deal with).
@jettisonantics
3 сағат бұрын
The nirvana punch buff also gives him a new safe-jump! 👍
@ShinOwen2
8 сағат бұрын
Picture this: Dalsim makes you lose all your meter (which he can do kind of easy) and your low on health. Yeah he’s going to chip the crap out of you and maybe get the kill.
@BryanCanonigo
6 сағат бұрын
shhhhhh 🤫
@KrAceZ-z9r
5 сағат бұрын
Another day of basking in the benefits of maining Capcom's favorite Akuma didn't sneak by the without nerfs, he was holding Capcom's hand while they slapped Gief with them
@MrThaes
3 сағат бұрын
Strangely, this update gives me a sliver of hope. If Capcom is willing to buff Dhalsim, the least used character in the game, then perhaps Marisa will also get a little love somewhere down the line.
@remylebeau34
9 сағат бұрын
It's hilarious how when people complain about broken stuff like rashid and jp level 2 or Blanka setups etc a bunch of people say "git gud". You're abusing something cheap to win, they should patch it out and if you can't win without your cheap strats, maybe you should "git gud"
@DaddysFlipside
9 сағат бұрын
lol git gud
@isaachudson9108
2 сағат бұрын
Oh boy. If I hadn't already stopped playing due to injury, this would be the patch that made me do it.
@lukey9102
10 сағат бұрын
I think you should go back to JPeak
@zigisamblak
9 сағат бұрын
The gief changes seem sensible, outside of that, who is selling crack at capcom? They buffed Luke, JP and Deejay? No changes to the actual bottom tier chars?
@ryanwallace4204
6 сағат бұрын
I just started playing and really loved Luke before the nerfs. So I'm glad he's better
@nugzmedallion8929
2 сағат бұрын
Other than the fact that I'm really enjoying using Terry, As a JP main, THIS PATCH IS LIT 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Doople
56 минут бұрын
Wonder if they did these buffs first because its easier to predict what theyll do. They have all the data for things like giving JP antiair again. While something like letting Jamie drink more vs buffing his normals would require more testing. Tbh personally i just want some dmg nerfs on Bison and Akuma asap.
@brucelb
10 сағат бұрын
You say deejay didnt need buffs but literally no one is playing him. Even Xian and Zhen got tired of losing and moved on.
@ThePoodle
10 сағат бұрын
Yeah cause he isn't the uncontested rush down king of the game anymore.
@Aeby2886
7 минут бұрын
When SF6 came out, from pre-release I'd decided to go in on Lily and hope for the best, I had pretty mixed results and eventually kinda branched out before settling on Chun Li because I liked her combos But I did have like one night where I learned JP, mostly to learn how to deal with him and he felt so nuts I seriously considered abandoning everything I'd worked on up to that point to swap to him cause of how just weird and powerful he felt, after the S2 patch I always felt a little disappointed I hadn't done it cause he seems like just an absolutely weird experience you can't get anywhere else In S2 I swapped back to Lily cause I'd taken a break for many months and kinda forgot the Chun combo routes and really didn't like the walkspeed change, but with the JP buffs I don't think I'm gonna make the same mistake again now that he's back lol
@radfield6089
3 сағат бұрын
another day another patch where jamie receives no meaningful buffs while luke gets the goods.
@bigde8538
11 сағат бұрын
Spread the gospel, broseph.🙏🙏🙏
@actuallynotsteve
3 сағат бұрын
Juri players once again see no changes at all and quietly nod in approval. We out here shucking and weaving balance patches and I'm here for it.
@RetrOrigin
8 сағат бұрын
I wonder if Capcom will ever realize no one in their right mind likes Luke and the only reason he's somewhat "popular" is because he's been busted since SFV (and now just normalized)
@Tahldon-kun
7 сағат бұрын
Hmph. Why does Capcom hate Gief so much, I wonder.
@rubberonasphalt
3 сағат бұрын
Is it too much to ask to make as many characters as possible, to be viable? Like nerfing characters that are already bottom tier, and buffing characters that are top of the top tiers just doesn't make much sense. Character variety in tournaments would be hype, but nah, lets see the same few characters win every tournament
@remylebeau34
9 сағат бұрын
I think Dhalsim level 1 got buffed on block because it was minus 15 before
@HellecticMojo
6 сағат бұрын
I wonder if this patch should've just not been implemented. I can see why they did it, as it's mostly minor standardization bug fixes, but it has really bad optics.
@JP_LDN582
Сағат бұрын
nerf all top tiers- release akuma- collect money-buff them all back... good job👍
@fatalradius
4 сағат бұрын
Let's leave Cammy alone. That spin knuckle nerf was enough :)
@joellera
8 сағат бұрын
JP was just on vacation
@eduardobarboza9499
7 сағат бұрын
I think you are downplaying how bad JP's cr hp was before they reverted the nerf...getting trades in more than half your anti air attempts is not a small deal.
@josephcarswell24
4 сағат бұрын
Maybe capcom wants lily mains to switch to Jp. Thats what im gonna do.
@cutefenns
6 сағат бұрын
This change only effects Dee Jay.
@yerubeltresantana2781
8 сағат бұрын
Shhhh, Luke needs those buffs! Where my Luke mains at!
@gkgeze
8 сағат бұрын
Terry’s got sauce
@ΚρανίΩ
2 сағат бұрын
dee jay level 1 still doesn't juggle after his heavy machinegun upper even thought it clearly should. idk what capcom is doing please just let me doe back hk heavy machinegun level 1 for like 4.5k damage
@mysteriousideals
6 сағат бұрын
what ?! hellstab into lvl 2 is the hardest input in the game hence why you don't even see it a lot even from the most popular Gief's out there not reliable and easy to drop
@cauadsouza
7 сағат бұрын
they made Luke the poster boy and then realized that he needs to be among the strongest characters to be relevant since almost no one actually likes him
@actuallynotsteve
3 сағат бұрын
To be fair, somebody has to be the...sole bad guy...of the SF 6 meta. I'll be here all week.
@drawhou9356
7 сағат бұрын
I don't really get why Cammy of all character needs nerfs?, I haven't seen one person complain about her, now if we were talking about the DLC misters then yeah, only Akuma and Bison feel like they need to be brought down a notch
@Crouton-
7 сағат бұрын
I think he's just exaggerating. It's personally one of he's worst match ups
@Gilbot9000
3 сағат бұрын
Guile and Zangief nerfs seem so unnecessary.
@Kasaaz
8 сағат бұрын
Is Bison's throw box still closer to you after Scissors?
@BigProtein2
8 сағат бұрын
I picked up gief yesterday and he got nerfed immediately. Sorry guys
@AIgeneratedhumanspider
7 сағат бұрын
I wish drive reversal was better :( AND THEY NERFED IT. I hate invincible wakeup so much like everytime i have to guess if akuma or any other characters that have it are going to use it or not while i can just go super aggressive vs those that dont have it. I play AKI in master and often use drive reversal to get out of corner or pressure but i feel like its such a worst version of invincible wakeup. Its my first street fighter game so idk if my request is bad or not but i just feel like its unfair that some have it and some are left to be pressured extremely hard while downed with the option to use drive reversal which is mediocre IN MY OPINION 😔😔
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